[Sugar-devel] [Karma] updating jsdoc for Karma

2009-10-14 Thread Bryan Berry
I changed some of the basic stuff in jsdocs but I still need Felipe's help when he gets a chance. http://karma.sugarlabs.org/docs/ I got rid of the confusing Jquery-Anonymous- prefix that was in front of a lot of classes. I will take a look again at it tomorrow. Felipe, you used the @memberOf_

Re: [Sugar-devel] Assorted Debian+Sugar bugs

2009-10-14 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi again, On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 07:37:07PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 07:52:11PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: Jonas co: I just wanted to report a couple of regressions that I found today while trying out sugar-0.84 on Sid. In no particular order: Thanks for

[Sugar-devel] incremental activity update

2009-10-14 Thread Daniel Drake
Hi, At OLE Nepal we have difficulties with updating activities because our main educational activity is so huge. Aayush Poudel implemented an incremental activity update which I have now merged with the standard software updater. When updating activities and content, the updater now only

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 03:40, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Mon, 12-10-2009 a las 22:36 -0400, Bernie Innocenti escribió: Hello, Michael just passed by the Acetarium and, since the dinner was late, we found the time to test and review his latest prototype^W patch. I'm

Re: [Sugar-devel] incremental activity update

2009-10-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:43, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: Hi, At OLE Nepal we have difficulties with updating activities because our main educational activity is so huge. Aayush Poudel implemented an incremental activity update which I have now merged with the standard software

Re: [Sugar-devel] incremental activity update

2009-10-14 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/10/14 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: Wonder how we could make it easier for other deployments to benefit from these changes. Do you have plans to push the changes to the sugar-update-control repo and spin new F9 rpms? No - my time is too tight and at least for Paraguay and Nepal it's

[Sugar-devel] Sugarizing an application

2009-10-14 Thread Daniel Castelo
Hi. When I execute an application written in C and gtk with a normal user (not the root user) it looks fine, I mean sugarized (for example with rounded entry text). But if i execute it with the root user it looks without the sugar theme. On what it depends? Thanks Daniel

Re: [Sugar-devel] MANIFEST experiments

2009-10-14 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 14.10.2009, at 13:44, Daniel Drake wrote: Today I ran a quick experiment on OLPC OS v8.2.1, based on the question: what are the activity MANIFEST files used for? I see sugar frequently complaining about MANIFEST inconsistencies in the logs, but I don't recall seeing it act on these

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugarizing an application

2009-10-14 Thread Daniel Castelo
I am testing the client gnome-ppp to connect the Xo with a modem 3G. When I execute the client using consolehelper and pam (or the root user) the application looks without the sugar theme. When I execute the binary file of the client (/usr/sbin/gnome-ppp) it looks fine. Thanks On Wed, Oct 14,

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Turtle Art-74

2009-10-14 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4027 Sugar Platform: from 0.82 to 0.86 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/version/29278 Release notes: * auto-load start block for new projects * fixed bug with reloading descriptions from Journal * added hover help

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-14 Thread Michael Stone
A word of initial warning: please turn on your sense of the absurd before reading. This response is written with a deep sense of amusement, rather than angst. Tomeu wrote: I'm more concerned about developers proposing big user experience changes because they feel it's better. Yay, more

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-14 Thread Simon Schampijer
On 10/13/2009 04:36 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: Hello, Michael just passed by the Acetarium and, since the dinner was late, we found the time to test and review his latest prototype^W patch. I'm loving how the menus suddenly are now snappy and responsive. Please, test it yourself and report

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-14 Thread Caroline Meeks
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 7:14 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 03:40, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Mon, 12-10-2009 a las 22:36 -0400, Bernie Innocenti escribió: Hello, Michael just passed by the Acetarium and, since the dinner was late,

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-14 Thread Sean DALY
In marketing parlance, these would be called focus groups and are a very effective and quick way to get feedback. The group I did at my kids' school last June (http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/marketing/2009-June/001625.html) immediately showed for example the problems kids had with quitting

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-14 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: On 10/13/2009 04:36 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: Hello, Michael just passed by the Acetarium and, since the dinner was late, we found the time to test and review his latest prototype^W patch. I'm loving how the

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 16:57, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote: A word of initial warning: please turn on your sense of the absurd before reading. This response is written with a deep sense of amusement, rather than angst. Tomeu wrote: I'm more concerned about developers proposing

[Sugar-devel] New SoaS v2 Snapshot Ready

2009-10-14 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Hi everybody, there is a new, true SoaS snapshot ready for you, awaiting testing. You can grab it here: http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/2/ Note that the XO images have apparently an issue (my fault!), which prevents them from booting, but will be addressed in the next build.

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-14 Thread Edward Cherlin
I'm extracting some of the for [[The Undiscoverable]]. On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Eben Eliason e...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: On 10/13/2009 04:36 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: Hello, Michael just passed by the

[Sugar-devel] Mesh

2009-10-14 Thread Cecilia Abalde
Hi, I have read a lots of documents which explains what kind of packages the mesh has got, for example, beacon, probe response, probe request, the ones for discovery the path. But i can't join all this information and understand how one XO can see another XO in its neighbourhood. I hope you can

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-14 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 14-10-2009 a las 12:15 -0400, Caroline Meeks escribió: People could take both versions to a group of kids and video how it goes. When are you going to be at the GPA? Next time I could come along, apply the patch before the kids start using the machines, and then we could interview

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] sunjammer: upgrade to Jaunty, Sat Oct 10th @ 20:00-24:00EST

2009-10-14 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 14-10-2009 a las 22:08 +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta escribió: It looks like this broke the Pootle and translate toolkit packages (the stock Ubuntu/Debian provided versions are used instead of the ones from your PPA). I tried to rebuild for Jaunty (with some new patches), but some files

Re: [Sugar-devel] Mesh

2009-10-14 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Cecilia Abalde wrote: Hi, I have read a lots of documents which explains what kind of packages the mesh has got, for example, beacon, probe response, probe request, the ones for discovery the path. But i can't join all this information and understand how one XO can see another XO in its

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-14 Thread Caroline Meeks
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.orgwrote: El Wed, 14-10-2009 a las 12:15 -0400, Caroline Meeks escribió: People could take both versions to a group of kids and video how it goes. When are you going to be at the GPA? Next time I could come along, apply the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] New SoaS v2 Snapshot Ready

2009-10-14 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
Douglas McClendon fixed selinux problems and bugs in zyx-liveinstaller: v0.1.12 is in soas02.iso. If you want to test immediately with soas02.iso, start terminal, become root, and type rpm -e zyx-liveinstaller rpm -Uvh \

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-14 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: I'm extracting some of the for [[The Undiscoverable]]. On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Eben Eliason e...@laptop.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: On 10/13/2009

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-14 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Michael Stone wrote: In the circle view, I'd like to see the layout algorithm expanded to lay out arcs of smaller option icons each with the same prelighting and saturation behavior as partial halos around the exterior perimeter of the activity icons. It took me a while to get this, but now

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] sunjammer: upgrade to Jaunty, Sat Oct 10th @ 20:00-24:00EST

2009-10-14 Thread Bernie Innocenti
El Wed, 14-10-2009 a las 23:30 +0530, Sayamindu Dasgupta escribió: I managed to figure out the issue in building the packages - https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-February/027439.html I'm going to do a build in a up to date jaunty VM and install the built packages in the

[Sugar-devel] Status report on Bookreading

2009-10-14 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Hello, I've posted a short status report on the state of Book Reading in OLPC/Sugar. You can read it here: http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings/2009/10/14/books-sugar-and-olpc/ There's also a video-cast of a modified Get Internet Archive Books activity, retrieving books from Feedbooks.com (it

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bookreader] Status report on Bookreading

2009-10-14 Thread Samuel Klein
Ditto :) I will be showing off Sayamindu's new work at the Making Books Apparent event in San Francisco next Monday night. If any of you are in the area, let me know and I'll make sure you get an invitation. Now we need to encourage more people to organize OPDS servers of children's works, and

Re: [Sugar-devel] incremental activity update

2009-10-14 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Wonder how we could make it easier for other deployments to benefit from these changes. For the F9 series (8.2.1) my current plan is to work to polish the imagecreator scripts so that it is easier for deployents to -

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Conozco Uruguay-7

2009-10-14 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 03:07:59PM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote: I just got a 404 error when I tried to download this onto a Sugar VM from a.sl.o On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Sugar Labs Activities activit...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Activity Homepage:

[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Conozco Uruguay-7

2009-10-14 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4199 Sugar Platform: from 0.82 to 0.86 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/version/29277 Release notes: Reviewer comments: This request has been approved. Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org

[Sugar-devel] Fwd: Mentor request for PyDebug Activity

2009-10-14 Thread Luke Faraone
-- Forwarded message -- From: George Hunt georgejh...@gmail.com Date: Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 17:56 Subject: [support-gang] Mentor request for PyDebug Activity To: Developers List de...@lists.laptop.org, Support Gangsters support-g...@laptop.org I am excited about developing a tool

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-14 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:14:57PM +0100, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 03:40, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Mon, 12-10-2009 a las 22:36 -0400, Bernie Innocenti escribió: Hello, Michael just passed by the Acetarium and, since the dinner was late, we found

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Karma] updating jsdoc for Karma

2009-10-14 Thread Felipe López Toledo
Hi guys I realize that, unfortunately, JsDoc did not show all classes and methods documentation. Example: JsDoc produced documentation for KSound (constructor) but no its methods (play, pause, etc..) atm, If you want to read the full documentation you will need to read it from the code (js file)

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-14 Thread Michael Stone
Simon wrote: On 10/13/2009 04:36 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote: I'm loving how the menus suddenly are now snappy and responsive. From: Michael Stone ... Subject: Make various palette animations happen more quickly. ... Can you describe what the patch will change from the user point of

Re: [Sugar-devel] MANIFEST experiments

2009-10-14 Thread James Cameron
Confirmed. On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 05:29:09PM +0545, Daniel Drake wrote: So, I reflashed 2 XOs, booted for the first time, entered a name. On one, I modified sugar.bundle.ActivityBundle.read_manifest() to be a no-op, then turned it off. On the other, I just turned it off. I reproduced this

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-14 Thread Sameer Verma
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote: Simon wrote: On 10/13/2009 04:36 AM, Bernie Innocenti wrote:  I'm loving how the menus suddenly are now snappy and responsive.  From: Michael Stone ...  Subject: Make various palette animations happen more quickly.  

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Mentor request for PyDebug Activity

2009-10-14 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
From: George Hunt georgejh...@gmail.com I'm very excited to hear about this project, and I hope you'll keep us updated with your progress. Anything that makes Sugar a better self-hosting development environment is tremendously valuable for us. At this point I'm debating whether to substitute

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-14 Thread Michael Stone
Tomeu wrote: On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 16:57, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote: Tomeu wrote: I'm more concerned about developers proposing big user experience changes because they feel it's better. Yay, more roadblocks and stereotyping! :) You shouldn't take this personal, most of

Re: [Sugar-devel] incremental activity update

2009-10-14 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/10/15 Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com: For the F9 series (8.2.1) my current plan is to work to polish the imagecreator scripts so that it is easier for deployents to  - prepare a custom image (mostly covered)  - base on an existing image (in place, even if the tar isn't

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-14 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/10/13 Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org: Hello, Michael just passed by the Acetarium and, since the dinner was late, we found the time to test and review his latest prototype^W patch. I'm loving how the menus suddenly are now snappy and responsive. I haven't tried it, and your mail

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-14 Thread Michael Stone
Daniel wrote: 2009/10/13 Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org: Hello, Michael just passed by the Acetarium and, since the dinner was late, we found the time to test and review his latest prototype^W patch. I'm loving how the menus suddenly are now snappy and responsive. I haven't

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-14 Thread Daniel Drake
2009/10/15 Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org: the menus also *disappear* quickly when the cursor leaves their boundary. In the field I actually have considered on various occasions doing the opposite. I've seen many children struggle to keep the mouse inside the menu while navigating to the item

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-14 Thread Eben Eliason
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote: Eben, First, thanks for the interesting and detailed history of your vision. I very much appreciate your ability to generate thought experiments describing other ways that the world could be. Next... Eben wrote:

Re: [Sugar-devel] RFC: Kill the delayed menus for good

2009-10-14 Thread Michael Stone
Eben wrote: We should definitely get feedback. I wouldn't be entirely opposed to a change, but I do want to make sure that we make such a change for the right reasons, and that it's actually the right change to make. So try it, and encourage your friends to do the same! :) I don't feel