Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18

2012-09-23 Thread Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez
Hi, everybody. Like Daniel, I'm from Uruguay and I feel identified with the Walter message. I'm fourteen years old, and I started using sugar when I was ten, when I receive my XO was the first time that I used linux and it liked me a lot. About the young programmers: I was a student of Flavio

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18

2012-09-23 Thread S. Daniel Francis
2012/9/23 Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez a...@sugarlabs.org: Hi, everybody. Like Daniel, I'm from Uruguay and I feel identified with the Walter message. Hi Agustin! I'm fourteen years old, and I started using sugar when I was ten, when I receive my XO was the first time that I used linux and it

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18

2012-09-23 Thread Chris Leonard
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 3:53 PM, S. Daniel Francis fran...@sugarlabs.org wrote: 2012/9/23 Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez a...@sugarlabs.org: About the young programmers: I was a student of Flavio Danesse, and he taught me a lot but for obvious reasons I had to appeal the internet to found more

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18

2012-09-23 Thread S. Daniel Francis
2012/9/23 Chris Leonard cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com: I would love to see more of the Spanish-only activities present in ASLO take this step to i18n so that they can be used by other XO kids around the world in their mother tongues. A good way would be if the ASLO editors request the authors to

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18

2012-09-23 Thread Kevin Mark
Hello Agustin from the US :) --- On Sun, 9/23/12, Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez a...@sugarlabs.org wrote: From: Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez a...@sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18 To: Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org Cc: James Simmons nices...@gmail.com, iaep

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18

2012-09-23 Thread Kevin Mark
--- On Sun, 9/23/12, S. Daniel Francis fran...@sugarlabs.org wrote: From: S. Daniel Francis fran...@sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18 To: Agustin Zubiaga Sanchez a...@sugarlabs.org Cc: iaep i...@lists.sugarlabs.org, Sugar-dev Devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18

2012-09-23 Thread S. Daniel Francis
but where I worked, it was like this: #!/usr/bin/python # questo è il modo in cui il punteggio di corrispondenza viene calcolato partida = calcio101+calcio02 Ciao Mondo! :) # Just regarding the Sugar Paint activity mixes English and Portuguese of its original maintainers. Now # with all the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18

2012-09-23 Thread S. Daniel Francis
2012/9/23 James Cameron qu...@laptop.org: On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 09:14:41PM -0300, S. Daniel Francis wrote: 2012/9/23 James Cameron qu...@laptop.org: It is irritating that we still store source code in linear text files without built-in internationalisation. As you change these names,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18

2012-09-23 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Now I know, I should stop reading this thread :) Gonzalo On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 8:40 PM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 07:53:35PM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Paint activity was developed by a Brazilian team and a lot of variables had Portuguese names.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18

2012-09-23 Thread Kevin Mark
--- On Sun, 9/23/12, S. Daniel Francis fran...@sugarlabs.org wrote: From: S. Daniel Francis fran...@sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18 To: James Cameron qu...@laptop.org Cc: sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Date: Sunday, September 23, 2012, 9:24 PM

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18

2012-09-23 Thread Flavio Danesse
El tema del idioma, tiene muchas aristas, (desde mi punto de vista), pero en lo que refiere específicamente a enseñar a programar a los niños y adolescentes, la cuestión está en que aprender un lenguaje de programación es en si, aprender otro idioma, lo cual ya de por si es difícil para

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18

2012-09-23 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Flavio, Estoy de acuerdo que para enseñar programación, agregar la problemática de comprender otro idioma a la de comprender el lenguaje de programación en si, no tiene demasiado sentido. Lo que si creo que tiene sentido, y esto tu y yo lo hemos hablado varias veces, pero como has dado tu punto de

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18

2012-09-23 Thread Kevin Mark
Hola Flavio, I think you gave many excellent  reasons for using Spanish, which is what i was saying. So I agree. I was recalling something about the OLPC project in Haiti.  They have 2 'officlal' languages: Kreyol and French. 99% of the country learns Kreyol but the upper class/government know

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18

2012-09-23 Thread Kevin Mark
--- On Mon, 9/24/12, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: From: Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18 To: Flavio Danesse fdane...@gmail.com Cc: Kevin Mark kevin.m...@verizon.net, sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org, James Cameron

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18

2012-09-23 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 02:08:03AM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: I agree with you when you say, to teach programming, add the need to learn a foreign language to the fact of learning the programming language, does not have too much sense. I couldn't read what Flavio said, but I agree that

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18

2012-09-23 Thread Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 15:40:13 +1000 From: qu...@laptop.org To: sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2012-09-18 On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 02:08:03AM -0300, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: I agree with you when you say, to teach programming, add the need to