Re: [Sugar-devel] Collaboration using qemu emulation

Or run the school server on a spare machine or virtual machine. It has an ejabberd server as part of its yummy goodness. Btw without offering offense to Qemu, vmware server is free as in beer on Windows, and its networking is very easy to configure On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 3:16 AM, Bert Freudenber

Re: [Sugar-devel] Collaboration using qemu emulation

Speaking of vmware, here is a source for various interesting vmware servers "in a box". Perhaps they could be convinced to package ejabberd. They have a moodle package already. http://www.rpath.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarl

Re: [Sugar-devel] SoaS at FOSDEM

Removing printing support doesn't sound like a good idea for something that is going to be used in US schools and homes. 2009/1/31 Sebastian Dziallas > Sebastian Dziallas wrote: > > Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: > >> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Caroline Meeks < > solutiongr...@gmail.com> wrot

Re: [Sugar-devel] Email client

Works for me on Linux. On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Grant Bowman wrote: > I tried gears with gmail on my home Windows XP machine but it just > freezes firefox so I have to force quit. > > -- > -- Grant Bowman > > > On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 5:10 AM, Tomeu Viz

Re: [Sugar-devel] Is it possible to disable "sharing" for an Activity?

I'm guessing someone has already suggested this on some list or other, but in my experience kids like to watch over each other's shoulder, and a default collaboration of "everyone watches, one person types" vnc would in my opinion be the 80 of a collaboration 80-20 rule. I think this ought to be i

Re: [Sugar-devel] Is it possible to disable "sharing" for an Activity?

PM, Wade Brainerd wrote: > I think some simplistic automatic collaboration being built into Sugar, has > been discussed, possibly even prototyped. > Just a matter of engineering motivation/time perhaps. > -Wade > > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche wro

Re: [Sugar-devel] Is it possible to disable "sharing" for an Activity?

Gary, I've used it for many years on machines much less powerful than the XO, often for an sshable net meeting with multiple participants, and I think you might need to do a few simple things to speed it up for yourself. (Remove fancy graphic backdrop, try for a smaller palette). These things are

Re: [Sugar-devel] Auto-authentication for Browse -

http://boblord.livejournal.com/18402.html On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Simon Schampijer > wrote: > >> Thoughts? Opinions? Code? > >> > >> cheers, > > > > I wonder if it would not be best to generate a cert per user when we > > authent

Re: [Sugar-devel] Auto-authentication for Browse -

11 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche wrote: > http://boblord.livejournal.com/18402.html > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Martin Langhoff < > martin.langh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Simon Schampijer >> wrote: >> >> Thoughts? Opin

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

Frustration -- yup. However, let's try to come up with a way forward that solves the problem in the sort-of near term, and the frustration in the very near term. I too have been trying to run sugar on ubuntu and having frustration. So, what I think would minimize the frustration is a known place

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] activites known not to either work at all or not on certin platforms

Caroline, I really don't think the problem is lack of testing in the case of Ubuntu. It is that so little works that activity testing is basically a smoke test (turn it on and see if it even comes up). And because the only status report is a bunch of individual bug reports, there is a high barrie

Re: [Sugar-devel] [PATCH] webactivity: seed the XS cookie at startup

Martin, I want to understand what https traffic you are concerned will affect performance and caching. As far as I understand the need for https, it would only be used infrequently, when reauthenticating to the server. I.e..: 1. XO connects to Moodle without valid cookie and is redirected to http

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] What's going on with Text To Speech on the XO?

Samuel -- I'd like to call your attention again to SynPhony. We are close to a base release (probably this week) of a 44,000 word English word database that has a very rich array of information helpful to the teaching of English, especially reading. A 10,000

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] addons.sugarlabs.org is starting to work

Why not provide a dependency declaration in the activity file which can be checked when the activity is installed? It could inform the user that a particular package or library was needed. I understand that different distros may package the dependencies differently, but it wouldn't be so bad if t

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] addons.sugarlabs.org is starting to work

How does the Mozilla add-on functionality decide if there is a version or platform conflict for browser add-ons? it must be a piece of the browser that does this via some interaction with data on the server. Shouldn't there be a similar process here? It is frustrating to download something (whic

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] addons.sugarlabs.org is starting to work

? On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:41 AM, David Farning wrote: > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Carol Farlow Lerche > wrote: > > How does the Mozilla add-on functionality decide if there is a version or > > platform conflict for browser add-ons? it must be a piece of the browser

Re: [Sugar-devel] Full Licence field

This brings up an issue I have been thinking about, since the SynPhony database comprises several "with attribution" components. Would it make sense to have a common design element that was "about " or "credits" that would allow contributions to be acknowledged? Leaving aside whether it is a lice

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Activity startup idea

The pulsing doesn't prevent random clicking. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Gary C Martin wrote: > On 23 Feb 2009, at 20:46, Wade Brainerd wrote: > > > Opening up a conversation with Eben about the activity startup > > animation. The pulsing, scaling icon appears to slow down activity > > sta

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Activity startup idea

Spend a few hours in a kindergarten classroom. It doesn't work to prevent repeated launching of activities and ultimately a need to reboot. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Luke Faraone wrote: > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche > wrote: > > The pulsin

Re: [Sugar-devel] Future of Rainbow + Sugar?

Michael, I think your work on Rainbow is very important, but I think it is a bit opaque. Perhaps you could improve your documentation and as well write a tutorial about it that would make it more apparent how much is actually implemented and what an activity can do with it. So here's an example.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Future of Rainbow + Sugar?

Bert, Are you satisfied with the number of activity developers? Are you satisfied with the number of developers within the deployments? Have you noticed the periodic questions on the developer-oriented lists about Rainbow security and whether it is causing mysterious symptoms? I'm not, and I ha

Re: [Sugar-devel] Future of Rainbow + Sugar?

Michael, I'm happy to continue this discussion off-list if you or others feel it is inappropriate to carry it on here. However, to respond to your mail: > Thanks you for this detailed critique of my documentation efforts to date. > One > thing that I've (obviously) struggled with is understandi

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Design for a.sl.o and sugarlabs

I think a simple design such as Josh's is ideal to use for all kid facing pages. The school server could benefit from a similar theme. Personally, while I think someone talented (as Josh obviously is) could make a related theme for adults and kids, it is much more important to have a less text-in

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Design for a.sl.o and sugarlabs branding/theme unity

Slight grammatical problem with one panel on http://www.christianmarcschmidt.com/projects/sugarlabs/betasite/index.php?template=page&page=learners "Kamala reads a webpage about sharks and LEARN that shark populations are declining." -- should be LEARNS. On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 6:54 AM, David Fa

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] New Sugar on a Stick image available

Is there a place/page to watch to discover what is blocking SOAS from working as an SD/USB boot on the XO hardware? I believe someone posted recently that there were a few blockers that were being worked on. Is this correct? On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Simon Schampijer wrote: > Weeeh! > >

Re: [Sugar-devel] Full Licence field

ing.) On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 7:14 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > I suggest a palette attached to a button in the toolbar to show this > info, or a modal alert similar to the object chooser. > > Regards, > > Tomeu > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 19:52, Carol Farlow Lerche wrote: &g

Re: [Sugar-devel] easier installation of soas

Make the LiveCD have a usb maker on the desktop when launched. On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:41 PM, David Farning wrote: > This become an issue of cost effectiveness. I understand Branded USBs > are on the order of $8 a stick. > > The Fedora Ambassadors tried giving away USB keys. Thye found that >

Re: [Sugar-devel] Full Licence field

As long as it can be overridden (and I presume it could be.) I have a problem in SynPhony of having many contributers to the database content that are stored along with license details in a table within the database. Static info in the software packaging is insufficient. 2009/2/28 Bernie Innocent

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

Print queue management and quotas are key to this feature being usable in a classroom/school environment. Consumables are very expensive and kids love to hit print, often without thinking. So providing a way to place print jobs in a "hold for review" status is very important, IMHO, as well as pro

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

A problem with the desktop-oriented printer support in Unix and in Windows is that it has the underlying assumption that the person at the desktop should be in unfettered control of the ability to print (with lip service paid to an overall page quota). Where this breaks down for children is that

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

That is exactly what my "turn it in" queue is, but I'm sure there may be other ways to implement it ... email to the teacher with an attachment, etc, etc. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Wade Brainerd wrote: > 2009/3/19 Carol Farlow Lerche : > > A problem with the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support proposal (need input) Beta

I disagree that print-to-pdf should be omitted. I think print to pdf is important for submitting work in a portable, "frozen in amber" way. The printer interface may be on a platform that does not have support for all the file formats of the native XO activities. Someone may want to print an ar

Re: [Sugar-devel] I made a bootable stick unbootable. What happened?

Unless there is a way to make SOAS2 reliable in the face of hasty insertion and deletion, I don't think it will work very well in a classroom setting. It shouldn't be the case that the stick becomes unbootable. Can a root partition on the stick be made read only? 2009/3/23 Caroline Meeks > Here

Re: [Sugar-devel] Still experience issues with SoaS on XO

Check track bug 643. 2009/3/26 Dave Bauer > I checked two different sticks, both FAT16. > > (soas on the same stick works on my laptop) > > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Sean DALY wrote: > >> Dave - are you trying SoaS-1-0323 or SoaS-2-0325 ? >> >> I have succeeded in booting both as follo

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] Do not open a new window for menu link on sugarlabs.org

Sean, Wouldn't it be ok to merge "Bugs / Git / API / Buildbot" into "Develop", and expand them when you get to the Develop page? Also, the language on the wiki home page makes it sound like communication is done via the wiki. "The Sugar Labs wiki is where the community comes together to develop a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] Do not open a new window for menu link on sugarlabs.org

ng to > the wiki for the first time say 'what a mess', but don't feel > comfortable changing things. > > thanks > david > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche > wrote: > > Sean, Wouldn't it be ok to merge "Bugs / Git / API / Build

Re: [Sugar-devel] Google summer of Code proposal: Speech Synthesis

This feature doesn't seem solely intended solely as an assistive technology. But having a "buttonless" mode is a good idea. On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Aleksey Lim wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:41:35AM +0530, chirag jain wrote: > > Hi!! > > > > I have created a rough proposal of spee

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bugs] #645 UNSP: make sugarlabs.org the default page

Check these out :-) http://www.google-logos.com/ On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 7:45 PM, David Farning wrote: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Gary C Martin > wrote: > > On 31 Mar 2009, at 22:40, Gary C Martin wrote: > > > >> On 30 Mar 2009, at 14:59, Sean DALY wrote: > >> > >>> I really like this i

[Sugar-devel] XO function on various downloads

[Sent to devel.l.o ... posting here for reflections from the SugarLabs knowledge base] I have made an outline for a google spreadsheet that tries to provide a checklist of information about XO compatibility for various possible distributions that an XO owner could choose to put on their hardware.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Call for Testers (New Snapshot!)

One choice -- Newberry medal winning children's books by women authors: http://digital.library.upenn.edu/women/_collections/newbery/newbery.html I have converted these to epub format including the illustrations found at the website, very compact and accessible via fbreader. How should they be pa

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC proposal: Speech Synthesis

I like the idea. I would suggest that for (2), when the word is pronounced it should be sounded out first using the grapheme-phoneme correspondences for the language. Preferably highlight the graphemes as they are spoken. Thus "bb ah ll - ball", in turn highlighting b, a, ll. This helps the chil

Re: [Sugar-devel] Unified bundles

It appears that Sayamindu's fbreader activity isn't in ASLO. Since it supports many additional formats (including epub, which I just uploaded a bundle full of), is there any plan to make this activity work on the SOAS releases? On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 2:52 PM, James Simmons wrote: > Wade, > > One

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Proposal: Multimedia Broadcasting

It seems like this conversation is somewhat at cross-purposes. Martin discusses the general case of multicast from an arbitrary client through an access point serving many clients with a mixture of multicast and unicast traffic. Well known performance problems result. However, Geza proposes a sp

Re: [Sugar-devel] Feedback on SoaS

Booted in VMWare 1.08 "create new VM", pointing at the just-announced .iso. I am running VMWare in Ubuntu Intrepid. Sugar comes up, and I can use the built in activities that don't require networking or sound. However, the virtual ethernet connection is not properly configured. The dmesg says th

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Feedback on SoaS

Regarding content, the advantage of the local "homepage" in the XO-1 browser as shipped from OLPC is that content is there in an understandable way even if the network doesn't work/isn't available. As compared with finding content in the journal, it is easier to tell what and why the content might

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support (journal vs activity)

It's entirely unclear what this project has morphed to. Tomeu, what use is uploading arbitrary journal entries to Moodle? I thought creating pdf output in sugar and enabling uploading of the pdf to Moodle was the point of this project. That is useful in two ways. First, it is a path to assignme

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Resuming Snapshot Creation

In general, as root use: # find / -type f -exec grep -nH 'SUGAR_SCALING' {} \; Supplant SUGAR_SCALING with any string you want to look for. One doesn't need the single quotes in this case, but if the string had shell sensitive characters it would alleviate the need to escape them. Also, instead

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Ubuntu 9.04 will not start

Since the problem of running Sugar native in Jaunty is xephyr dbus policy and hulahop inevitable out-of synchness with xpcom (as far as I can see from the reporting) is it possible for the Ubuntu packaging gurus to provide a ppa that can be added temporarily to the repository list and have fixed pa

Re: [Sugar-devel] dumping datastore to another filesystem

Martin, the last disk we bought, a few days ago, was $100 and half a terabyte. I understand that you are trying to fit the XS into the preexisting XO hardware, but realistically it is unlikely to be a configuration a real school could use by itself. The deployments we know about so far have large

Re: [Sugar-devel] dumping datastore to another filesystem

2:14 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche > wrote: > > Martin, the last disk we bought, a few days ago, was $100 and half a > > terabyte. I understand that you are trying to fit the XS into the > > preexisting XO hardware, but realistically it is unlikely to be a > > configuratio

Re: [Sugar-devel] dumping datastore to another filesystem

a) storage for months of programmer time are misguided. 2009/5/15 Sameer Verma > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 5:14 AM, Carol Farlow Lerche > wrote: > > Martin, the last disk we bought, a few days ago, was $100 and half a > > terabyte. I understand that you are trying to fit the XS

Re: [Sugar-devel] possible foundation for an email activity

Albert -- The page you mention (http://www.jwz.org/doc/threading.html) says "I'm told this algorithm is also used in the Evolutionand Balsa mail readers. " ___ Sugar-devel mailing

Re: [Sugar-devel] I'm looking for a tree...

hash chaining only approaches order n if the table is very full (because of collisions). On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Benjamin M. Schwartz < bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu> wrote: > Lucian Branescu wrote: > > This http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0372/ might be interesting. > > Perhaps it could ge

Re: [Sugar-devel] [GSoC] SSB creator

Also something new and related in Mozilla land: https://jetpack.mozillalabs.com/ On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Gary C Martin wrote: > On 7 Jun 2009, at 18:18, Lucian Branescu wrote: > > > 1. I don't really want to zip it if I can avoid it. If I do zip it and > > get an .xo, how can I add it

Re: [Sugar-devel] [GSoC] SSB creator

act very similar to > Chrome's extension API. > > 2009/6/7 Carol Farlow Lerche : > > Also something new and related in Mozilla land: > > > > https://jetpack.mozillalabs.com/ > > > > On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Gary C Martin > wrote: > &