Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2008-12-15

2008-12-15 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: === Sugar Digest === 6. GNOME: I will be representing Sugar on the GNOME foundation board of advisers. If you have any Sugar-related concerns you would like voiced, please let me know. An issue to consider is the

Re: [Sugar-devel] activities.s.o update

2008-12-17 Thread David Farning
Tomeu, Can we just check out your tree and have things work? Or should I modify the a.s.o instruction page to reflect how to pull from git.sl.org. Also, please feel free to kill the activities.sugarlabs.org/mainline. I did a git svn from the mozilla repoitory and git push to push the tree into

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity packaging problems

2008-12-20 Thread David Farning
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 06:40:42PM +0100, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 6:17 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: Please consider republishing latest

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Architecture Documentation

2008-12-22 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 3:10 AM, tbad...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi David, As I am in between jobs, I do some volunteer work with the local OLPC office, helping them in technical and regulatory matters. However, my primary interest is software and have also been working with Walter on a proposal

[Sugar-devel] Sugar Labs web services conventions

2008-12-27 Thread David Farning
Over the last couple of weeks Sugar Labs has brought several web services online. What would be a good naming convention for the git repositories for these services? I have been using SERVICENAME.sugarlabs.org. Now, I think that sl.o-SERVICENAME makes more sense. It is easier to search for web

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Fwd: [Systems] git.sugarlabs.org down?]

2008-12-28 Thread David Farning
Looks like osl is(was) unreachable from some locations. The problem seems to be with Level three. See http://www.internetpulse.net/ for more info. Ping times are starting to drop from some previously unreachable locations. david On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Bernie Innocenti

[Sugar-devel] Flash at Sugar Labs

2009-01-04 Thread David Farning
Bryan Berry started a great thread about activity development a few days ago. In the initial post he proposed using flash as means of developing content. Before taking the thread any farther I though we should stop and look at what flash actually is. The term flash is often interchangeably used

[Sugar-devel] sugar-jhbuild II

2009-01-15 Thread David Farning
As part of our push to become closer to our upstream, I have been rewriting sugar-jhbuild. The project started as an effort to make our buildbot cooler. During the process, it became apparent that several of the Sugar specif patches could be pushed upstream. It is ready for alpha testing.

Re: [Sugar-devel] wiki bugs

2009-01-16 Thread David Farning
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Join might prove to be a good example:) david On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 12 Jan 2009, at 18:34, Gary C Martin wrote: On 12 Jan 2009, at 17:47, Wade Brainerd wrote:

Re: [Sugar-devel] feature freeze issue #3: resume by default

2009-01-20 Thread David Farning
Sascha, The best person for this type of information would be alsroot (Alesksey Lim). He has been doing a lot of good work porting Sugar to different distributions. His jhconvert work also seems interesting:) david On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Sascha Silbe

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: sugar-jhbuild

2009-01-20 Thread David Farning
Tony, As far as running Jhbuild, I would look at http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/Jhbuild It is quite a bit more up to date then the resources you are looking at. Have you seen the work that the Sugar on a Stick people are doing at http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick ? It is

Re: [Sugar-devel] Extensive jhbuild refactoring landed

2009-01-21 Thread David Farning
Thanks, It is working well now. david On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 17:03, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 02:03, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 21.01.2009, at 02:31, Marco

Re: [Sugar-devel] jhbuild obsoleted itself:)

2009-01-24 Thread David Farning
Michael, Could you wrap the chroot procees into a script? It looks pretty useful, especially for testing! david On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Michael Stone michael.r.st...@gmail.com wrote: Mikus, An idea that I've been working on for the last few days (which is certainly compatible

[Sugar-devel] squeak in debian

2009-01-26 Thread David Farning
Is it squeak and etoys that we are missing from debian? They now seem to be available in lenny. http://packages.debian.org/lenny/etoys http://packages.debian.org/lenny/squeak-vm david ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] squeak in debian

2009-01-27 Thread David Farning
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 02:48:20AM +1800, David Farning wrote: Is it squeak and etoys that we are missing from debian? They now seem to be available in lenny. http

Re: [Sugar-devel] Soas name

2009-01-28 Thread David Farning
So is cotton candy:) On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Mitch Bradley w...@firmworks.com wrote: Rock candy is sugar on a string. Lollipops are sugar on a stick. Clearly you guys didn't spend enough of your youth trying to rot your teeth away. ___

Re: [Sugar-devel] addons.mozilla.org - what needs to be done?

2009-01-29 Thread David Farning
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Mel Chua m...@melchua.com wrote: Ok, I think Tomeu and I caught up tonight and I'm ready to keep pushing this forward, so... *tinkers with http://sugarlabs.org/go/ActivityTeam/Remora_port* Time for the questions. 1. There are a few instances of remora

[Sugar-devel] Migrating the HIG

2009-02-04 Thread David Farning
Just a quick heads up that I will be migrating the HIG from laptop.org to sugarlabs.org. The steps will be 1. pull DesignTeam/Hig/Sugar/* from sl.o 2. delete DesignTeam/Hig/Sugar/* from sl.o 3. pull OLPC Human Interface Guidelines from lt.org 4. merge deltas between the sugarlabs and laptop

Re: [Sugar-devel] Migrating the HIG

2009-02-04 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: can you pull the Sugar Almanac too? I will start migrating the almanac in the morning. -walter On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 12:24 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Just a quick heads up that I

Re: [Sugar-devel] Migrating the HIG

2009-02-05 Thread David Farning
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Morgan Collett morgan.coll...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 05:54, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: can you pull the Sugar Almanac too? I will start migrating

Re: [Sugar-devel] Cannot sugar-jhbuild update

2009-02-08 Thread David Farning
Thanks for finding this. Indeed, Gnome must have recently moved the location of jhbuild in their git repo. A couple of weeks ago there was a poll at Gnome about changing their VCS to git. The changes to the gnome git infrastructure have been fast and furious since then. david On Mon, Feb 9,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] gst-plugins-espeak

2009-02-08 Thread David Farning
You rock! david On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Hi all, http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/gst-plugins-espeak http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/gst-plugins-espeak Guess it could be useful for activities that use speech synthesizer. It is very

Re: [Sugar-devel] Cannot sugar-jhbuild update

2009-02-09 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti marc...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 1:47 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Thanks for finding this. Indeed, Gnome must have recently moved the location of jhbuild in their git repo. A couple of weeks ago

Re: [Sugar-devel] Cannot sugar-jhbuild update

2009-02-09 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:48 AM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti marc...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 1:47 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Thanks for finding this. Indeed, Gnome must have

[Sugar-devel] Almanac Migrated

2009-02-09 Thread David Farning
The Sugar Almanac migration is complete! It is now at http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/Almanac A issue to mark the pages as migrated is at dev.lt.org#9241 Would someone please make a link and description from somewhere in the existing DevelopmentTeam wiki to the almanac?

Re: [Sugar-devel] Almanac Migrated

2009-02-10 Thread David Farning
Thanks Gary, I just want to thank you publicly for all the work you have been doing to make the wiki usable:) david On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 8:06 AM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 10 Feb 2009, at 09:36, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 02:15, David Farning dfarn

[Sugar-devel] buildbot traffic

2009-02-11 Thread David Farning
Luke, Can you make sure that traffic from the buildbot is making it through list moderation? thanks david ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fedora 10 machine to build soas-1 images

2009-02-11 Thread David Farning
I would like to get a better handle on our build farm situation. Currently, buildbots ar running on the following machines. | buildslave1.sl.o | boar.prgmr.com | Fedora10 | | buildslave2.sl.o | boar.prgmr.com | FedoraRH | | buildslave3.sl.o | hydra.prgmr.com | | buildslave4.sl.o | pgrm??

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Static services for Local Labs

2009-02-11 Thread David Farning
I tend to think that a cms is a bit of overkill for a young organization. One of my personal long term goal is to determine how we can clone SL in Local SLs by reproducing the best practices of SL on a more local scale. Developer side: 1. The key component is the release cycle, ever thing else

Re: [Sugar-devel] csound or olpcsound (was Re: hello and how can IJoin?)

2009-02-11 Thread David Farning
Very cool - Anything you can push upstream is a win for everyone:) david On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 9:51 AM, victor victor.lazzar...@nuim.ie wrote: Yes, originally this was an XO-fedora only thing. However the olpcsound 'lightweight' option is actually in the upstream sources (as a build

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Static services for Local Labs

2009-02-11 Thread David Farning
deployment (but we will likelly have some more connectivity in Bolivia). Looking forward to share more as things develop, looking for feedback / synergy. Sebastian 2009/2/11 David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org I tend to think that a cms is a bit of overkill for a young organization. One

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Static services for Local Labs

2009-02-11 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 18:29, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Maybe the issue here is that local labs have a much broader scope than

Re: [Sugar-devel] Build intrastructure

2009-02-11 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: [cc += sugar-de...@] Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: As Peter suggested, I should look at getting nightly builds set up soon. Would you like to share infrastructure so that the build run spits out SoaS images at the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities migration status

2009-02-11 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Is there no way to move/create an activity so that the same code push will update both sl's gitorious and olpc's git? Until there is a policy of sorts in place, and better yet an endowment supporting long-term maintenance

Re: [Sugar-devel] buildbot failure in Sugar Labs Buildbot on log-activity-Fedora10

2009-02-13 Thread David Farning
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote: build...@sugarlabs.org wrote: The Buildbot has detected a failed build of log-activity-Fedora10 on Sugar Labs Buildbot. Full details are available at:

[Sugar-devel] sugar-jhbuild for Ubuntu 9.04

2009-02-14 Thread David Farning
I have set up a depcheck file for Ubuntu 9.04. It builds but does not run:-/ enjoy david ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] buildbot failure in Sugar Labs Buildbot on log-activity-Fedora10

2009-02-15 Thread David Farning
#ssh sunjammer.sugarlabs.org #sudo su - buildmaster #cd sugar-jhbuild #cat twisted.pid #kill ??? #./sugar-jhbuild bot --start-server --daemon david On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 4:37 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 21:02, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote

Re: [Sugar-devel] buildbot failure in Sugar Labs Buildbot on log-activity-Fedora10

2009-02-15 Thread David Farning
:) david On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Ok. Breakers and fixers of sugar-jhbuild: please ping me whenever you need buildbot restarted. Thanks, Tomeu On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 15:14, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: #ssh sunjammer.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] Had a chance to try SoaS in anger...

2009-02-18 Thread David Farning
Gary, Didn't you know everything done in anger works out better then expected:) david On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: ... and it worked :-) Just back from a 3hr+ meeting with a potential school deployment, they'd contacted me a few weeks back

Re: [Sugar-devel] Displaying flash activities automatically in Browse

2009-02-18 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:06 AM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: Well my gf says I am incredibly insecure so maybe I can attempt to hack sugar :) I will try hacking on the the stylesheet Or you could: 1. Have kids. 2. Spend eight years raising crazy hacker kids. 3 Ask kids to hack Sugar.

[Sugar-devel] update production aslo

2009-02-18 Thread David Farning
: David Farning dfarn...@gmail.com Date: Tue Feb 17 08:51:24 2009 -0600 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

[Sugar-devel] What should we call it? Addons of Activities

2009-02-18 Thread David Farning
There has been some talk of what the final name for aslo should be. addons.sugarlabs.org or activities.sugarlabs.org Which do you prefer? I like activities.sl.o better but it means more work for me to change it. So, for me, it is a wash. david (Contributors with marketing or brand development

Re: [Sugar-devel] addons.sugarlabs.org is starting to work

2009-02-18 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 3:44 PM, victor victor.lazzar...@nuim.ie wrote: I can't get it to work. When I try to upload a file (from 'developer tools'), there is an error What is the error? Tomeu is good, but not that good. david - Original Message - From: Simon Schampijer

Re: [Sugar-devel] addons.sugarlabs.org is starting to work

2009-02-18 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 3:53 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 3:44 PM, victor victor.lazzar...@nuim.ie wrote: I can't get it to work. When I try to upload a file (from 'developer tools'), there is an error What is the error? Tomeu is good

Re: [Sugar-devel] What should we call it? Addons of Activities

2009-02-19 Thread David Farning
Ok, Then activities it shall be. Due to the complexity of the code, it uses mod_extensively, The move is going to have to be cold turkey. Steps. 1 . Bernie point activities.sugarlab.org, activities-testing.sugarlabs.org, and activities-devel.sugarlabs.org at sunjammer. 2. I will create the

Re: [Sugar-devel] What should we call it? Addons of Activities

2009-02-19 Thread David Farning
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 07:21:23AM +1800, David Farning wrote: Ok, Then activities it shall be. Due to the complexity of the code, it uses mod_extensively, The move is going

[Sugar-devel] production aslo update

2009-02-19 Thread David Farning
No new commits for the production instance of aslo. We will be running some clean.sh and build.sh scripts to update the .mo (translation) files. Yep, that is right, Sayamindu Dasgupta should be able to hook aslo to pootle and make them sing. How cool is that? david

Re: [Sugar-devel] production aslo update

2009-02-19 Thread David Farning
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 15:59, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: No new commits for the production instance of aslo. We will be running some clean.sh and build.sh scripts to update the .mo (translation) files

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] addons.sugarlabs.org is starting to work

2009-02-19 Thread David Farning
. But, to be honest, we are probably 3-6 months away from making those decisions. It is going to take a healthy dose of feedback from the distributions about best practices. david On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:41 AM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Carol Farlow

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] design team meeting (And finding a new regular time)

2009-02-19 Thread David Farning
I talked to a designer named josh who is doing interesting stuff. see http://sugarlabs.org/go/AddonsPortal/Design Sorry, but I don't remember his email. Goes by y0shu on irc. Another design related would be to standardizing the look and feel of the various Sugar Labs web sites. david On Fri,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Moon-9, almost (Re: addons.sugarlabs.org is starting to work)

2009-02-20 Thread David Farning
As part of /bin/build.py there is a .js add .css minimizer. It must be screw up. I think that we need to replace the minimzed .js and .css with upstream's and turn off the minimizer. david 2009/2/21 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 08:49, Wade Brainerd

[Sugar-devel] aslo production update

2009-02-21 Thread David Farning
We just made another set of updates to aslo production. These are mostly string fixes. Keep the bug reports coming. We also started testing some maintenance scripts: Every morning (unless I forget) we will run: calculate total download calculate weekly download create review statistics create

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Moon-9, almost (Re: addons.sugarlabs.org is starting to work)

2009-02-21 Thread David Farning
. Special thanks to Wade for the steady stream of bug reports. david On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 21 Feb 2009, at 02:40, Gary C Martin wrote: On 20 Feb 2009, at 17:02, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 17:51, David Farning dfarn

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] design team meeting (And finding a new regular time)

2009-02-21 Thread David Farning
Christian, Will you post the new meeting information on http://sugarlabs.org/go/DesignTeam/Meetings ? On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 9:29 AM, Christian Marc Schmidt christianm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there Why don't we start by getting a day on the calendar for a regular design meeting. How is

[Sugar-devel] development team meeting

2009-02-21 Thread David Farning
Greg and other developers, Could you post your scheduled meeting information at http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/Meetings? thanks david ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] development team meeting

2009-02-21 Thread David Farning
? Loan it to a needy developer! [[ http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_Exchange_Registry ]] On Sun, 22 Feb 2009, David Farning wrote: Greg and other developers, Could you post your scheduled meeting information at http://sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/Meetings? thanks david

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar now has smoke test procedures.

2009-02-22 Thread David Farning
Very Nice, We were contacted Friday by a company that sells a rebranded Intel Classmate. They asked if Sugar would run on their product. It will be very helpful to have something like Smoke_test! david On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Mel Chua m...@melchua.com wrote: Because of the impending

Re: [Sugar-devel] User Interface Anoyances and Bugs in the latest Sugar On A Stick build dated 23 of February, 2009

2009-02-23 Thread David Farning
This is not noise at all! The day Sugar Labs starts to consider feedback and bug reports from users as _noise_ is the day we close up emacs and start pushing XP:( david On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Eduardo H. Silva hoboprim...@gmail.com wrote: Tomeu assured me that I wouldn-t be creating

[Sugar-devel] addons.sl.org sandbox

2009-02-24 Thread David Farning
Hey all, It looks like we are having trouble with some of addons.sl.o workflow. When a developer first uploads a activity it is put in a sandbox. The instructions state that other 'logged in' users will be able to see the activity and review it. That does not currently seem to be the case:)

Re: [Sugar-devel] future of the grab key?

2009-02-24 Thread David Farning
Paul, You are not probably not going to get much feedback from core developers on grab right now. That has nothing to do with the validity of the design or the quality of the implementation. It is entirely to do with where Sugar is in the release cycle. Testing and debugging. When the merge

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Design for a.sl.o and sugarlabs branding/theme unity

2009-02-27 Thread David Farning
and the light background was what you would 'want' from computers. david Christian From: Sean DALY [mailto:sdaly...@gmail.com] To: ,Josh williams [mailto:joshcwilli...@gmail.com] Cc: David Farning [mailto:dfarn...@sugarlabs.org], i...@lists.sugarlabs.org, sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] wiki_laptop_org/go/Specifications

2009-03-01 Thread David Farning
feel? Yeah, feel similarly. Wonder if someone could share their opinions about how projects like fedora and ubuntu manage the feature proposals for every release? Thanks, Tomeu - Eben On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 3:28 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: A couple of weeks ago

Re: [Sugar-devel] easier installation of soas

2009-03-01 Thread David Farning
This become an issue of cost effectiveness. I understand Branded USBs are on the order of $8 a stick. The Fedora Ambassadors tried giving away USB keys. Thye found that they were not cost effective. The high cost per unit combined with the low 'stick rate' made them unfeasible. I understand

Re: [Sugar-devel] move Low-level_Activity_API to the SLs wiki

2009-03-01 Thread David Farning
On my TODO list for later this week. david 2009/3/1 Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de: On 01.03.2009, at 13:16, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Hi David, Bert and Wade, should we move http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Low-level_Activity_API to the SLs wiki? Yes. - Bert -

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Moon-9, almost (Re: addons.sugarlabs.org is starting to work)

2009-03-01 Thread David Farning
://shell.sugarlabs.org/~bjordan/aslo2.png Brian On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 5:00 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 03:40, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 20 Feb 2009, at 17:02, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 17:51, David Farning dfarn

Re: [Sugar-devel] easier installation of soas

2009-03-01 Thread David Farning
2009/3/1 Eben Eliason e...@laptop.org: On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Carol Farlow Lerche c...@msbit.com wrote: Make the LiveCD have a usb maker on the desktop when launched. That's a really good idea, actually. On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:41 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote

Re: [Sugar-devel] LiveCD with image writing activity (was Re: easier installation of soas)

2009-03-02 Thread David Farning
When we first made the first sugar on USB keys, Brian Jordan was in contact with the Ubuntu LiveCD/USB guru. May he can restart those conversations:) david On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 2:51 PM, p...@laptop.org wrote: tomeu wrote:   On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 21:47, Carol Farlow Lerche c...@msbit.com

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bugs] #471 UNSP: Adopt activities.sugarlabs.org

2009-03-03 Thread David Farning
activities-devel.sl.o is now live. I intend that it will activities-testing will go live tomorrow and activities with go live the following day. I tried pointing activities at addons and mod-rewrite cause some weird errors. On 3/3/09, SugarLabs Bugs bugtracker-nore...@sugarlabs.org wrote:

[Sugar-devel] aslo caching

2009-03-04 Thread David Farning
Are there any php experts around? I changed some .po files in activites.sl.o and then rebuilt the .mo files. After flushing memcache the changes were visible. Now for some reason, the changes seem to have reverted. Is it possible that the old information is being cached somehow? david

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] Buildslaves cleanup

2009-03-07 Thread David Farning
Nice, Are they running on a new machine at PGRMR? david On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 12:42 AM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: I ran a yum upgrade on the following machines:  buildslave1.sugarlabs.org   (F10)  buildslave2.sugarlabs.org   (F11 rawhide) I also cleaned up a few orphaned

Re: [Sugar-devel] RAM DoS

2009-03-09 Thread David Farning
On 3/10/09, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 09, 2009 at 06:35:59PM -0400, Luke Faraone wrote: That's the problem: Rainbow is not currently compatible with GNOME, Please explain your claim in more detail. as in there are no bindings for launching a rainbow'd application

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2009-03-10

2009-03-10 Thread David Farning
Walter, Very nice tone. As we near the release window, it opens up the conversation from the immediately actionable to the possible. Now that the culture and rhythm 'getting things done' is pretty well established, I hope we can start encouraging those academic papers and interesting new

[Sugar-devel] also stats are not updating correctly.

2009-03-10 Thread David Farning
Something is currently wrong with the aslo log parser. The download, review, and rating stats are going to be a few day behind. david ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity Versioning (Was Re: [RELEASE] Terminal v24)

2009-03-13 Thread David Farning
One project to look for on how to handle activity versions is eclipse. The notion of the eclipse plug-in ecosystem is virtually the same as it is in Sugar Labs. Eclipse has a few years of struggling with this issue under their belt.

Re: [Sugar-devel] announce: alternate power management

2009-03-13 Thread David Farning
Very cool! How well will this integrate with the power management systems other distros are using? Can it become a 'Value Added' for other netbook manufacturers? david On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 4:33 PM, p...@laptop.org wrote: hi -- i had an itch that needed scratching, and the result is a

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Priorities and Ideas (for GSoC)

2009-03-13 Thread David Farning
Hey Jameson, Mel Thanks for _proving_ me wrong. I had originally thought that Sugar Labs would only have the resources to handle two mentors/students this summers with out getting bogged down. It now looks like you have got a great handle on the project. david On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 4:49 PM,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] InfoSlicer-4

2009-03-15 Thread David Farning
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote: Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org writes: And the project page on the git repo could mention the add-on and the wiki page of the activity. in my mind, aslo page is more like a user-land page it just points to

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] DC Photo Jam 2 - New batch of photos of SoaS running on netbooks

2009-03-15 Thread David Farning
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: Mike, these are breathtaking! Walter, David - as they are CC, and already on Flickr, and the permissions posted by Mike are very clear, I do think we could go with these... what do you think? Yes, we can use these images.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [ANNOUNCE] SugarPlatform-0.84.0 o n Caixa Mágica the Magellan project

2009-03-17 Thread David Farning
Great job Aleksey, Let's bring Sean Daly, our marketing guy, into the conversation so he can work on a marketing plan going forward. Sean, For a very brief backstory. Magellan is a Portuguese firm with a contract to deploy on the order of 1 million locally made classmate based netbooks to

Re: [Sugar-devel] What should be included into SugarPlatform-0.84

2009-03-17 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: Hi all, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/DevelopmentTeam/SugarPlatform/0.84 The Sugar Platform is a set of versioned components on which activity authors can rely when targeting their activities to run on a particular

Re: [Sugar-devel] Changing the mail header for activities.sugarlabs.org

2009-03-20 Thread David Farning
Kushal, Could you send more of the email context? I am having trouble tracking this down:( thanks david On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Kushal Das kushal...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. The mails from activities.s.o which had information about my activity nomination shows subject line as :

Re: [Sugar-devel] Changing the mail header for activities.sugarlabs.org

2009-03-20 Thread David Farning
Thanks Ivan I am fixing it now. Should push to production tomorrow morning. david On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Ivan Krstić krs...@solarsail.hcs.harvard.edu wrote: On Mar 20, 2009, at 4:15 PM, David Farning wrote: Could you send more of the email context?  I am having trouble tracking

Re: [Sugar-devel] SWF Sugar

2009-03-22 Thread David Farning
009/3/21 Felipe López Toledo zer.subz...@gmail.com: Hi. I have been reading your wiki, first of all, I have to say you: great work!, keep doing it!. I want to help. My name is Felipe López Toledo, I'm a flash developer for last 6 years and I'm interested in participating in gsoc 2009 with

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC proposal

2009-03-22 Thread David Farning
2009/3/21 Ishara Gunathilake jaimgunathil...@gmail.com: hi I'm a applicant for GSoC. Here I attached my proposal for a sugar project idea. Please be kind enough to consider those documents and reply. Ishara, Your proposal looks interesting? It immediatly made me think of the work Resara

Re: [Sugar-devel] How is SoaS built?

2009-03-24 Thread David Farning
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, are there any pointers to how the SoaS build works? Is it using the Fedora livecd tools? Something else? more details below on what I am aiming for... Hey Martin, Good luck with Server on a

Re: [Sugar-devel] IMPORTANT: sugar-jhbuild: security update of xulrunner

2009-03-24 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 6:52 AM, Morgan Collett morgan.coll...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/24 Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org: Hello! Short summary: If you're using sugar-jhbuild on Debian, please run cd sugar-jhbuild rm -rf source/mozilla source/hulahop install ./sugar-jhbuild

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on various distros (was: Re: IMPORTANT: sugar-jhbuild: security update of xulrunner)

2009-03-24 Thread David Farning
Thanks for the update! david 2009/3/24 Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org: On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 01:35:23PM -0500, David Farning wrote: I have been trying to dog food Sugar on Jaunty. At least sugar-jhbuild is currently broken on a standard Jaunty install due to a major bug

[Sugar-devel] aslo

2009-03-24 Thread David Farning
activities-testing has been rebased from the upstream svn. The security on activities.sl.o has also been tightened. Please ping me if anything broke. david ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2009-03-24

2009-03-24 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: ===Sugar Digest === I have been buried in meetings over the past few days, so I am a bit late in giving an update to the Sugar community. First, I want to wish Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero (dirakx) a rapid

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Announce] Sugar Labs wiki team 2009 launch meeting 30 March 2009 17:00 UTC (13:00 EDT, 10:00 PDT)

2009-03-25 Thread David Farning
The biggest gap in our wiki is scheduling and providing feedback on meetings and events. It must be: 1a. Easy for a team coordinator to scheudal a meeting. 1b. Easy for a participant to add items to the agenda. 2. Easy for a new participant to discover when meetings are held. 3.Easy to find and

Re: [Sugar-devel] ideal flash activity to be remade as karma activity

2009-03-26 Thread David Farning
Yes, Wade's assessment is correct. As the number of moving pieces increases linearly, the complexity and overhead increases geometrically. Google wants to keep things as simple as possible to increase the chances success. So, what is success? Success is not necessarily a chuck of perfect

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] ars technica

2009-03-26 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/03/sugar-labs-announces-new-version-of-sugar-learning-platform.ars Nice to see a positive article from Ars (if it is straight from the press release), since they panned just about

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Digg SugarLabs .84 (+distroWatch)

2009-03-26 Thread David Farning
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Josh Williams j...@tucson-labs.com wrote: Hello everyone, Following up on the Ars thread, just thought of some other ways we can get some good publicity. I put a link up at http://digg.com/linux_unix/Sugar_version_0_84_released If we all digg this story, it

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [Marketing] Do not open a new window for menu link on sugarlabs.org

2009-03-26 Thread David Farning
Carol, Would you mind working with Fred on the wiki? You have made a lot of good suggestions. The tension I am seeing is that Sugar Labs Veterans, who feel comfortable editing the wiki, are immune to the mess. People coming to the wiki for the first time say 'what a mess', but don't feel

[Sugar-devel] something funky at git.sl.o?

2009-03-31 Thread David Farning
Is something funky going on at git.sl.o? dfarn...@sunjammer:~/aslo$ git pull ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly I can no longer pull from slo-activites - started have problems yesterday morning? I the past, I have fix the

Re: [Sugar-devel] I hear you

2009-03-31 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: On 03/29/09 23:42, qu...@laptop.org wrote: I've tested twinkle and it worked quite well for point to point calls. Both it and ihu could probably be modified to accept appropriate parameters to operate within the Sugar

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bugs] #645 UNSP: make sugarlabs.org the default page

2009-03-31 Thread David Farning
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 31 Mar 2009, at 22:40, Gary C Martin wrote: On 30 Mar 2009, at 14:59, Sean DALY wrote: I really like this idea, baseline so first-time visitors won't get lost between site sections Christian, would it be possible

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] Gadget on XS

2009-04-01 Thread David Farning
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 03:22:12PM +0100, Guillaume Desmottes wrote: Le mercredi 01 avril 2009 à 14:14 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard a écrit : On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 11:50:52AM

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Proposal: Multimedia Broadcasting

2009-04-03 Thread David Farning
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 8:22 AM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 3:10 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Then don't be!  OLPC has spent years arguing about how various solution will _not_ work.  How about giving the students a chance to test

Re: [Sugar-devel] File transfer in Gabble!

2009-04-03 Thread David Farning
go Guillaume go! you rock On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Guillaume Desmottes guillaume.desmot...@collabora.co.uk wrote: Hey guys, I know that lot of you were waiting this feature since a long time; file transfer in Gabble is there! Thanks for your patience. I did some (very simple)

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