[Sugar-devel] ideal flash activity to be remade as karma activity

2009-03-26 Thread Lucian Branescu
Hello, I have this proposal http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Webified_Toolkit I've had a chat with mchua and homunq on #sugar, and here's an interesting idea homunq: if you'd need some limited common foundation, but most of your work would then be separate and compatible, you could both schedule the

Re: [Sugar-devel] ideal flash activity to be remade as karma activity

2009-03-26 Thread Lucian Branescu
Hello, I have this proposal http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Webified_Toolkit I've had a chat with mchua and homunq on #sugar, and here's an interesting idea homunq: if you'd need some limited common foundation, but most of your work would then be separate and compatible, you could both schedule the

Re: [Sugar-devel] ideal flash activity to be remade as karma activity

2009-03-26 Thread Lucian Branescu
, then we are good. Best, Wade On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I have this proposal http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Webified_Toolkit I've had a chat with mchua and homunq on #sugar, and here's an interesting idea homunq: if you'd need some

Re: [Sugar-devel] ideal flash activity to be remade as karma activity

2009-03-28 Thread Lucian Branescu
I've been doing some benchmarks between firefox and safari nightlies on OS X Leopard x86. Firefox had Tracemonkey and Safari had SquirrelFish Extreme. Every test was run three times and the best time was recorded. Memory usage is Real Size as reported by the OS X (Activity Monitor and top). I

Re: [Sugar-devel] ideal flash activity to be remade as karma activity

2009-03-28 Thread Lucian Branescu
I'm such an idiot, I forgot to link the results. Here http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/317039/webkit%20vs%20gecko.txt 2009/3/28 Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com: I've been doing some benchmarks between firefox and safari nightlies on OS X Leopard x86. Firefox had Tracemonkey and Safari had

Re: [Sugar-devel] ideal flash activity to be remade as karma activity

2009-03-28 Thread Lucian Branescu
They seem to be consistent with my results on OS X. Also, it occured to me that making a pywebkitgtk backend for hulahop would be easier than I had thought. 2009/3/28 Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com: I'm such an idiot, I forgot to link the results. Here http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/317039

Re: [Sugar-devel] help

2009-03-28 Thread Lucian Branescu
Don't bother with the i18n, just change the python source. 2009/3/28 asran zara asranz...@gmail.com: hi guys I (finally) have my sugar devel environment under ubuntu, could anyone say me how to modify the labels in the menu-item (shut down, restart,etc)? I changed some fields of the

Re: [Sugar-devel] [math4] FourthGradeMath Digest, Vol 2, Issue 37

2009-03-29 Thread Lucian Branescu
The latest Jython is 2.5 RC2 I think. The problem is that Jython can't really use CPython (regular python) extensions and Sugar depends on many things, most importantly GTK. 2009/3/29 Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc: Brian Long wrote: Is there any means of running sugar or python via a JVM?

Re: [Sugar-devel] [math4] FourthGradeMath Digest, Vol 2, Issue 37

2009-03-29 Thread Lucian Branescu
on the FourthGradeMath mailing list about the best way that teacher's involved in our projects could be exposed to Sugar. SoaS is probably the best option for people who only have access to a PC as well. Thanks, Brian On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Sugar-devel] ideal flash activity to be remade as karma activity

2009-03-29 Thread Lucian Branescu
There has been some talk about the interaction between my project and Felipe's. I've had an interesting chat with Bryan and Ben on #sugar. Here's the whole chat http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/317039/bryan%26bemasc%20chat.txt Here's the lastest idea: I would be focusing on building something akin to

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Bugs] #645 UNSP: make sugarlabs.org the default page

2009-03-31 Thread Lucian Branescu
Perhaps google would be interested in hosting a homepage like they do for firefox? It would at least be faster to load. 2009/4/1 Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de: Gary C Martin wrote: On 31 Mar 2009, at 22:40, Gary C Martin wrote: On 30 Mar 2009, at 14:59, Sean DALY wrote: I really like

Re: [Sugar-devel] webified and google gears

2009-04-14 Thread Lucian Branescu
2009/4/14 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 20:19, Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: Gears is just a XUL extension, packaging shouldn't be a problem. You mean you are volunteering to package it? ;) David Van Assche already worked on it and got

Re: [Sugar-devel] webified and google gears

2009-04-14 Thread Lucian Branescu
:42, David Van Assche dvanass...@gmail.com wrote: I can send over what I have... I had the rpm source file somewhere... I can look for it if there is interest... Yes please, the .spec file will be a good step forward. Thanks, Tomeu David On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Lucian Branescu

Re: [Sugar-devel] discussion of which javascript framework to use for Karma

2009-04-21 Thread Lucian Branescu
jQuery makes the DOM suck less, that's it's main plus. I think the jQuery UI is complete enough for most tasks and doesn't have architectural constraints that keep it from getting better. It's also quite small. However, I don't think it should matter too much which framework is blessed. Web devs

Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Print Support (journal vs activity)

2009-04-22 Thread Lucian Branescu
I vote for the second option. Having Read do this makes sense to me: if you want to read (including preview) something you either read it off the screen or print it and read it off a paper. 2009/4/22 Vamsi Krishna Davuluri vamsi.davul...@gmail.com: Yep, agreed, though for some reason if the

Re: [Sugar-devel] processing.js - tool to replace flash in websites [KARMA]

2009-04-27 Thread Lucian Branescu
attribution! It's hard to keep these frameworks apart these days. I've also seen YUI attributing Resig amongst others in some ajax code, Resig reacting on a Mootools mailing-list post. Aren't they supposed to compete with each-other? Damn hippies. /Ties On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 12:41 +0100, Lucian

Re: [Sugar-devel] [KARMA] don't need an ide for js

2009-05-04 Thread Lucian Branescu
I've used the Webkit inspector thing, it rivals firebug. Less features, though. I've always just used a text editor for JS work. I don't like IDEs in general. 2009/5/4 Felipe López Toledo zer.subz...@gmail.com: Hi Bryan i don't see myself using aptana or another special ide. firebug + emacs

Re: [Sugar-devel] Browse.xo performance resolution - Hulahop 200dpi vs Browse 134dpi

2009-05-15 Thread Lucian Branescu
This is very interesting, similar to the problem Qt used to have on Maemo. I was always surprised by report of canvas being slow on the XO, it's probably the fastest and the lowest overhead drawing technology available to JavaScript. 2009/5/15 Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com: On Fri,

Re: [Sugar-devel] possible foundation for an email activity

2009-05-22 Thread Lucian Branescu
It looks lovely, even has conversations (the one absolutely necessary feature of GMail). The GUI is also very simple, most of it is the WebView. 2009/5/22 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: Hi, Anjal uses Webkit and the evolution backend and has a cool UI, may be interesting to see how to use

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar with Metacity (again)

2009-05-23 Thread Lucian Branescu
Perhaps Maximus from Ubuntu netbook remix may help with emulating matchbox behaviour? https://launchpad.net/maximus I don't really have a say in this, but I'd go for EWMH compliance. Even Compiz could be used in XO 1.5, since it has some 3D support. 2009/5/23 Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] soas live cd on MacBook? How?

2009-05-24 Thread Lucian Branescu
blessing would be useful for enabling 'boot from USB'. 'boot from CD' or 'boot from USB with helper CD' don't need it. 2009/5/24 Andrea Mangiatordi andrea.mangiato...@gmail.com: Jonas Smedegaard wrote: You cannot run the currently released SoaS on a PowerPC Macintosh. That's why I wrote so I

Re: [Sugar-devel] Physics activity development

2009-05-27 Thread Lucian Branescu
I'm in the same situation (well, I will be when I get my macbook back). I do see a lot of talk towards making Sugar and activities behave more like standard applications. Perhaps Sugar will work on OS X natively some day. 2009/5/27 Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com: Hi Asaf, On 27 May 2009,

[Sugar-devel] Gears in Browse

2009-05-27 Thread Lucian Branescu
For both Webified and Karma, Gears support in Browse is necessary (or at least preferred), but AFAIK there is currently no strategy to get it running. Since Browse uses xulrunner, it should be possible to use the Firefox version of Gears, with possible modifications. However, I could not find any

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gears in Browse

2009-05-27 Thread Lucian Branescu
running in Browse being much more important. 2009/5/28 Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu: Lucian Branescu wrote: The work is not complete, as the extension tries to write in places owned by root, instead of the local user profile. So then it is not usable on any Linux system

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gears in Browse

2009-05-28 Thread Lucian Branescu
2009/5/28 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: 2009/5/28 Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com: For both Webified and Karma, Gears support in Browse is necessary (or at least preferred), but AFAIK there is currently no strategy to get it running. I have managed to get it running in Browse

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gears in Browse

2009-05-28 Thread Lucian Branescu
: 2009/5/28 Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com: For both Webified and Karma, Gears support in Browse is necessary (or at least preferred), but AFAIK there is currently no strategy to get it running. If I understand correctly, the 'HTML5' extensions push means that the core gecko gets

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gears in Browse

2009-05-28 Thread Lucian Branescu
AFAIK it's not in the spec (yet), but there was some talk about it. In any case, it's certainly not in browsers. 2009/5/28 Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com: 2009/5/28 Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com: Not really. HTML 5 only brings an SQLite database accessible from JavaScript

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gears in Browse

2009-05-28 Thread Lucian Branescu
. 2009/5/28 Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com: 2009/5/28 Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com: 2009/5/28 Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com: Not really. HTML 5 only brings an SQLite database accessible from JavaScript. Gears has other features that aren't present in Gecko

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gears in Browse

2009-05-28 Thread Lucian Branescu
Slightly off-topic, a new Gears has been released http://gearsblog.blogspot.com/2009/05/gears-05210-released.html The Blob builder API is very interesting, as it possibly allows altering arbitrary files from JavaScript. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gears in Browse

2009-05-29 Thread Lucian Branescu
been superseded by the new stuff in mozilla? Regards, Tomeu 2009/5/28 Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com Heh, I didn't know LocalStorage had been in Firefox for so long. I was under the impression it was at the same stage as Webkit. Thanks for the link. Again, this should

Re: [Sugar-devel] Progress with SoaS boot-helper

2009-05-29 Thread Lucian Branescu
Last time I tried, GRUB on EFI could not initialise hardware accelerated video drivers (my nvidia driver). GRUB on emulated BIOS worked, though. I just got my laptop back, I should be able to test this as well. 2009/5/29 Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com: On a related subject, I am also actively

[Sugar-devel] [GSoC] progress report

2009-06-03 Thread Lucian Branescu
Since I missed the meeting, here goes. I've had a really hectic past few days, with 2 exams, just getting my laptop back and constantly fighting my Uni network restrictions. But it's better now, finished with exams and I figured out how to trick the proxies. I played around with a template Site

Re: [Sugar-devel] cool animation w/ all-javascript space invaders

2009-06-04 Thread Lucian Branescu
2009/6/3 Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com Very interesting, especially because of its browser support. 2009/6/3 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org: http://static.boundvariable.com/space-invaders/ does most of the animation that we need using raphaeljs, which uses svg

Re: [Sugar-devel] [GSoC] progress report

2009-06-04 Thread Lucian Branescu
. 2009/6/4 Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com: 2009/6/4 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 22:00, Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: Since I missed the meeting, here goes. I've had a really hectic past few days, with 2 exams, just getting my laptop back

Re: [Sugar-devel] [GSoC] progress report

2009-06-05 Thread Lucian Branescu
2009/6/5 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 22:42, Lucian Branesculucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/6/4 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 22:00, Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: Since I missed the meeting, here goes. I've

[Sugar-devel] [GSoC] SSB creator

2009-06-06 Thread Lucian Branescu
For my project, I will extend Browse with the ability to create SSBs. Read more here http://honeyweb.wordpress.com/2009/06/06/the-user-experience/ I have made a small script that is triggered by a button in the Browse toolbar. It also works from Terminal. Later on this script will do more

Re: [Sugar-devel] I'm looking for a tree...

2009-06-07 Thread Lucian Branescu
This http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0372/ might be interesting. Perhaps it could get backported to 2.5. But it still has O(n) deletion. 2009/6/7 Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu: James Zaki wrote: Taking a guess with the information you've given perhaps a hash

Re: [Sugar-devel] I'm looking for a tree...

2009-06-07 Thread Lucian Branescu
Would an ordered dictionary otherwise be all right, or am I misunderstanding your requirements? There are other implementations, like http://www.xs4all.nl/~anthon/Python/ordereddict/ 2009/6/7 Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu: Lucian Branescu wrote: This http://www.python.org/dev

Re: [Sugar-devel] [GSoC] SSB creator

2009-06-07 Thread Lucian Branescu
1. I don't really want to zip it if I can avoid it. If I do zip it and get an .xo, how can I add it to the Journal programatically? 2. I've changed that. All SSBs are subdomains to org.sugarlabs.ssb (like org.sugarlabs.ssb.GMailActivity) 2009/6/7 Bobby Powers bobbypow...@gmail.com: On Sat, Jun

Re: [Sugar-devel] [GSoC] SSB creator

2009-06-07 Thread Lucian Branescu
: On 7 Jun 2009, at 18:18, Lucian Branescu wrote: 1. I don't really want to zip it if I can avoid it. If I do zip it and get an .xo, how can I add it to the Journal programatically? 2. I've changed that. All SSBs are subdomains to org.sugarlabs.ssb (like org.sugarlabs.ssb.GMailActivity

Re: [Sugar-devel] [GSoC] SSB creator

2009-06-07 Thread Lucian Branescu
Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com: On 7 Jun 2009, at 18:18, Lucian Branescu wrote: 1. I don't really want to zip it if I can avoid it. If I do zip it and get an .xo, how can I add it to the Journal programatically? 2. I've changed that. All SSBs are subdomains to org.sugarlabs.ssb (like

Re: [Sugar-devel] Please help us choose a Sugar on a Stick boot animation sequence by tomorrow

2009-06-09 Thread Lucian Branescu
+1 for the ring 2009/6/9 Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com: We are on a tight schedule for the SoaS LinuxTag release and following the mega-thread on the subject we have narrowed the choice down to two variants: Progress Bar

Re: [Sugar-devel] webkit, hulahop; developing apps using browser engine DOM for widgets

2009-06-10 Thread Lucian Branescu
Before GSoC started, I did my own tests of webkit vs gecko. Firefox lost everywhere and lost especially bad on memory usage. http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/317039/webkit%20vs%20gecko%20osx.txt http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/317039/webkit%20vs%20gecko%20soas.txt

Re: [Sugar-devel] webkit, hulahop; developing apps using browser engine DOM for widgets

2009-06-10 Thread Lucian Branescu
it that deeply, really). On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 03:22:37PM +0100, Lucian Branescu wrote: Before GSoC started, I did my own tests of webkit vs gecko. Firefox lost everywhere and lost especially bad on memory usage. http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/317039/webkit%20vs%20gecko%20osx.txt http

Re: [Sugar-devel] webkit, hulahop; developing apps using browser engine DOM for widgets

2009-06-10 Thread Lucian Branescu
Not now, I have my own work to do for GSoC. I have talked to tomeu about what it would take to give Browse the ability to switch between engines. The general conclusion was that another layer of indirection would be needed, on top of hulahop/pywebkitgtk that Browse would use. Hand tuning or not,

Re: [Sugar-devel] webkit, hulahop; developing apps using browser engine DOM for widgets

2009-06-10 Thread Lucian Branescu
Apparently someone did that for me http://www.j5live.com/2007/08/02/webkit-and-xulrunner-mozilla-side-by-side-on-the-xo/ 2009/6/10 Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com: On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Lucian Branesculucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think I have the results

Re: [Sugar-devel] webkit, hulahop; developing apps using browser engine DOM for widgets

2009-06-10 Thread Lucian Branescu
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 09:33:22PM +0100, Lucian Branescu wrote: Apparently someone did that for me http://www.j5live.com/2007/08/02/webkit-and-xulrunner-mozilla-side-by-side-on-the-xo/ That one I believe is known to old-timers of this list.  It is 2 years old, before the major Mozilla

Re: [Sugar-devel] [GSoC] SSB creator

2009-06-10 Thread Lucian Branescu
Update http://honeyweb.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/ssb-creator/ 2009/6/7 Bobby Powers bobbypow...@gmail.com: On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Lucian Branesculucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: For my project, I will extend Browse with the ability to create SSBs. Read more here

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugarizing of Web apps --- Thursday 18.06.09 - 14.00 (UTC) --- #sugar-meeting

2009-06-15 Thread Lucian Branescu
You can also have a look at my blog for more info: http://honeyweb.wordpress.com 2009/6/15 Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de: Hey, at this weeks sugar developer meeting we will welcome: *Lucian Branescu Mihaila* He is working on this years GSoC project to Sugarize Web applications

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-15 Thread Lucian Branescu
My major concern against porting to Android is that Java is a horrible language, even with the nice Android libs. Google have said that they will add more languages, though. A more long term solution would be using PyPy, since it has significantly lower memory usage and better optimisation

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-15 Thread Lucian Branescu
2009/6/15 NoiseEHC noise...@freemail.hu: My major concern against porting to Android is that Java is a horrible language, even with the nice Android libs. Google have said that they will add more languages, though. Yes, java sucks. IMHO it does not matter though since mostly activities

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Digest 2009-06-15

2009-06-15 Thread Lucian Branescu
2009/6/15 NoiseEHC noise...@freemail.hu: There is a project doing a bit of that, http://code.google.com/p/jythonroid/ Jython just got a new compiler though, it should be possible to retarget it. Google seems to love Python, maybe they will help? Perhaps OLPC could get them to at least say

Re: [Sugar-devel] testing composition for speeding up graphics performance

2009-06-16 Thread Lucian Branescu
I've just tried xcompmgr on my XO with 0.82 (f9). I also see significant perceived performance improvements when sliding the frame and especially when switching windows. I have however noticed some artefacts on the top of the frame and the edges of Terminal (the activity where I started

Re: [Sugar-devel] testing composition for speeding up graphics performance

2009-06-16 Thread Lucian Branescu
I've just tried xcompmgr on my XO with 0.82 (f9). I also see significant perceived performance improvements when sliding the frame and especially when switching windows. I have however noticed some artefacts on the top of the frame and the edges of Terminal (the activity where I started

Re: [Sugar-devel] testing composition for speeding up graphics performance

2009-06-16 Thread Lucian Branescu
I've put xcompmgr -a in my .xsession file and everything works great. I haven't seen any artefacts anywhere in fact. 2009/6/16 Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com: On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 09:54:32PM +0100, Lucian Branescu wrote: I've just tried xcompmgr on my XO with 0.82 (f9). [...] I

Re: [Sugar-devel] testing composition for speeding up graphics performance

2009-06-17 Thread Lucian Branescu
I've finally found an artefact, but I'm not sure what caused it. There is now a tall grey-ish bar on the left of the frame. It moves with the frame. 2009/6/17 Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com: On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:39:30PM +0100, Lucian Branescu wrote: I've put xcompmgr -a in my

Re: [Sugar-devel] [GSoC] SSB creator

2009-06-18 Thread Lucian Branescu
Latest version at http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/webified 2009/6/11 Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com: Update http://honeyweb.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/ssb-creator/ 2009/6/7 Bobby Powers bobbypow...@gmail.com: On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Lucian Branesculucian.brane...@gmail.com

Re: [Sugar-devel] Design review plea.. OLPC desktop switcher

2009-06-19 Thread Lucian Branescu
This looks great! What I don't like though, is the 'switch to sugar' functionality being available as a button. Wouldn't it be better to keep it as a GDM session option? 2009/6/19 Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org: Hi Eben/other interested victims, I've designed (it's usually bad news when I've

Re: [Sugar-devel] testing out browser speed issues

2009-06-22 Thread Lucian Branescu
Opera is not WebKit-based. It has its own engine, I believe called Presto. 2009/6/22 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org: subzero, it just occurred to me that the easiest webkit-based browser to run on the XO is probably Opera. Afaik, it doesn't have a ton of QT dependencies like Konqueror and u

Re: [Sugar-devel] testing out browser speed issues

2009-06-22 Thread Lucian Branescu
own 3D implementation (using Open-GL?) surf is an option (thanks lucian), in order to compile it it needs make, gcc, g++, webkit...or at least, that is what I'm doing :S 2009/6/22 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org On Mon, 2009-06-22 at 11:38 +0100, Lucian Branescu wrote: Opera

[Sugar-devel] [GSoC] I need help for Webified - SSB activity favicons

2009-06-24 Thread Lucian Branescu
In case you don't know what Webified is http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Webified http://honeyweb.wordpress.com In short, I have added to Browse the ability to create SSB (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Site-specific_browser) activities. Since I'm generating activities, they need to have icons. After

Re: [Sugar-devel] [GSoC] I need help for Webified - SSB activity favicons

2009-06-24 Thread Lucian Branescu
and .ico is an annoying format. I would also not account for any meta tags that may define icons. I was also hoping of using xulrunner's image handling and get the base64 image from it instead of processing an image file. 2009/6/25 Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com: In case you don't know

Re: [Sugar-devel] Strawberry VDI, please

2009-06-25 Thread Lucian Branescu
Are you sure sound is enabled in the VirtualBox VM setting? It's disabled by default. 2009/6/25 Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 25 Jun 2009, at 21:00, Dave Bauer wrote: It was creatd witth Virtualbox 2.2.4. I

[Sugar-devel] [API proposal] toolbox.get_toolbars()

2009-06-29 Thread Lucian Branescu
While adding the bookmarklet functionality to Browse, I realised that the toolbox API is hard to work with if your toolbars change. For example, set_current_toolbar() takes the index of the toolbar as a parameter, something which you can't really know if your toolbars move around. Tomeu suggested

Re: [Sugar-devel] [API proposal] toolbox.get_toolbars()

2009-06-29 Thread Lucian Branescu
yet. 2009/6/30 Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu: Lucian Branescu wrote: I have attached a patch to toolbox.py, in the sugar.graphics package. What is your plan for backwards compatibility?  Do you intend for your SSB-enabled Browse to run on 0.84 or 0.82? --Ben

Re: [Sugar-devel] [API proposal] toolbox.get_toolbars()

2009-06-29 Thread Lucian Branescu
yet. 2009/6/30 Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu: Lucian Branescu wrote: I have attached a patch to toolbox.py, in the sugar.graphics package. What is your plan for backwards compatibility? Do you intend for your SSB-enabled Browse to run on 0.84 or 0.82? --Ben

Re: [Sugar-devel] [GSoC] I need help for Webified - SSB activity favicons

2009-07-01 Thread Lucian Branescu
I've put that on hold for now. It's rather low-impact high-effort when compared to userstyles and userscripts. I'll try downloading the favicon with stuff in nsChannel, but I'm not sure I can embed that in an SVG (especially since gtk's SVG support is very bad). 2009/7/1 Tomeu Vizoso

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gecko for Win32, pyjamas-desktop, python-hulahop

2009-07-03 Thread Lucian Branescu
2) That was my backup proposal in fact, and I ended up getting accepted with this one http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Webified I'd still like to make browse Browse able to use webkit (and preferably to be able to switch between webkit and gecko), but that's for after GSoC. I'll probably love that

Re: [Sugar-devel] Gecko for Win32, pyjamas-desktop, python-hulahop

2009-07-03 Thread Lucian Branescu
. 2009/7/3 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton l...@lkcl.net: On 7/3/09, Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: 2) That was my backup proposal in fact, and I ended up getting  accepted with this one http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Webified  ooo.  ah.  take a look at pygtkweb (in pyjamas

Re: [Sugar-devel] [API proposal] toolbox.get_toolbars()

2009-07-04 Thread Lucian Branescu
I recently looked over sugar-port source, and I found this http://people.sugarlabs.org/~alsroot/sugar-port/ It's equivalent to my patch, but is slightly less readable. 2009/7/1 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 15:18, Lucian Branesculucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [API proposal] toolbox.get_toolbars()

2009-07-04 Thread Lucian Branescu
I didn't realise the docs didn't use a get url. Look for ActivityToolbox.get_bars in the activity module. 2009/7/4 Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com: I recently looked over sugar-port source, and I found this http://people.sugarlabs.org/~alsroot/sugar-port/ It's equivalent to my patch

Re: [Sugar-devel] Good filesystem for USB flash with compression?

2009-07-06 Thread Lucian Branescu
USB flash drives have controllers that do wear-leveling. They try really hard to make them look like hard drives. JFFS2 works on raw flash, so it's not useful. Basically any FS that works on all the OSes you need. ext2 is a good option. NTFS might be, but it's fiddly. I've tried to get a UDF

Re: [Sugar-devel] Good filesystem for USB flash with compression?

2009-07-07 Thread Lucian Branescu
Sorry, I should've read the question more carefully. Perhaps JFFS2 works on USB flash after all? Besides btrfs which is very primitive ATM, I don't know other compressed FSs. 2009/7/7 Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc: On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 21:00, Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Sugar-devel] css selector

2009-07-09 Thread Lucian Branescu
jQuery uses Sizzle, which uses native selectors whenever it can. You can see in that graph the green bar (jQuery 1.2.7 experimental) is only a sliver slower than native selectors, when available. Even without native selectors, Sizzle is very fast and I doubt it'll be a bottleneck for you. If I

Re: [Sugar-devel] Initial implementation of toolbars design

2009-07-11 Thread Lucian Branescu
b) About the API, I would like to stress the need for ways to (more) easily remove and add toolbars/toolbar items at runtime. 2009/7/11 Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de: On 07/11/2009 03:44 AM, Gary C Martin wrote: Hi Aleksey, On 10 Jul 2009, at 16:19, Aleksey Lim wrote: Hi all,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Initial implementation of toolbars design

2009-07-12 Thread Lucian Branescu
: On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 10:49:21AM +0100, Lucian Branescu wrote: b) About the API, I would like to stress the need for ways to (more) easily remove and add toolbars/toolbar items at runtime. Usage of new sugar.graphics.Toolbar is clean in that case, there are just another tool button

Re: [Sugar-devel] reading and writing translatable strings

2009-07-12 Thread Lucian Branescu
Searching strings inside all HTML elements could be very slow. I suggest if you search inside html elements, stick to a predefined list of them (like a translate class). 2009/7/12 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org: Subzero, I have figured out how to read the strings from an html file, at least

[Sugar-devel] [API proposal] Source editor and widget

2009-07-13 Thread Lucian Branescu
I'm proposing the addition of sugar.graphics.sourceedit.SourceView. It would be similar to what can be found in jarabe.view.viewsource. Exact names of classes and/or module are up for debate. I'm also thinking of adding a FileView class in there, but I'm not sure about it. I've already seen

Re: [Sugar-devel] [API proposal] Source editor and widget

2009-07-13 Thread Lucian Branescu
I've attached a file with a SourceView class. I'll try to write up a FilesView class as well, since 3 of the 4 aforementioned use cases do something like this. 2009/7/13 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 18:09, Lucian Branesculucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: I'm

Re: [Sugar-devel] Request to add webkitgtk as a external dependency

2009-07-15 Thread Lucian Branescu
Many people report WebKit to be faster and my own benchmarks seem to confirm that. I think it would be great if there were some browser API for activities that could use both hulahop and pywebkitgtk. This way, the best overall engine at the time can be used. 2009/7/15 Bryan Berry

Re: [Sugar-devel] [API proposal] Source editor and widget

2009-07-15 Thread Lucian Branescu
' view. 2009/7/15 Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de: On 07/13/2009 06:09 PM, Lucian Branescu wrote: I'm proposing the addition of sugar.graphics.sourceedit.SourceView. It would be similar to what can be found in jarabe.view.viewsource. Exact names of classes and/or module are up for debate

Re: [Sugar-devel] [API proposal] Source editor and widget

2009-07-15 Thread Lucian Branescu
Alright then. I'm unfamiliar with policies about code duplication in sugar and activity code. If duplication is ok, then my proposal is moot :) Ignore and move along. 2009/7/15 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 19:09, Lucian Branesculucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [API proposal] Source editor and widget

2009-07-15 Thread Lucian Branescu
Sure, I'll put it on the wiki, then. About editing userscripts, I'll resort to overriding the default View Source, at least for now. 2009/7/15 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 17:09, Lucian Branesculucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: Alright then. I'm unfamiliar with

Re: [Sugar-devel] [API proposal] Source editor and widget

2009-07-15 Thread Lucian Branescu
Here it is http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Almanac#How_do_I_create_a_text_box_for_code_editing.3F 2009/7/15 Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com: Sure, I'll put it on the wiki, then. About editing userscripts, I'll resort to overriding the default View Source, at least

Re: [Sugar-devel] best way to localize audio and image files?

2009-07-16 Thread Lucian Branescu
I'd go for option 1) until Pootle sound is done, it makes sense to me. Translate the english filename (sound.ogg) to the french filename (sound-fr.ogg) 2009/7/16 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org: done! http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Sound#Crowdsourcing_Audio_and_Image_Localization

Re: [Sugar-devel] [API proposal] Source editor and widget

2009-07-17 Thread Lucian Branescu
...@schampijer.de wrote: On 07/16/2009 12:06 AM, Gary C Martin wrote: On 15 Jul 2009, at 17:07, Lucian Branescu wrote: Here it is http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Almanac#How_do_I_create_a_text_box_for_code_editing.3F Thanks Lucian, I've been watching this thread from

Re: [Sugar-devel] menustage becomes karmaplatz.html

2009-07-21 Thread Lucian Branescu
I'd still go for karmaindex.html :) 2009/7/21 Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org: unless u have any strong objections, let's rename it to karmaplatz.html platz means plaza in  German. karmaplatz sounds so odd that it is both memorable while at the same time easy to spell. -- Bryan W. Berry

Re: [Sugar-devel] question about: Main Karma Package

2009-07-22 Thread Lucian Branescu
Now that I'm actually looking at the layout, I realise that you MUST rename chakra.html/karmaplatz.html to index.html. If you host the karma bundle somewhere on a web server, when you go to the bundle ROOT path the server will try to serve index.html, because that's the default. Since it's not

Re: [Sugar-devel] Karma: geometry functions

2009-07-22 Thread Lucian Branescu
Could this help? http://sylvester.jcoglan.com/ 2009/7/22 Felipe López Toledo zer.subz...@gmail.com: Hi guys. I've been working on re-making some OLE Nepal lessons using javaScript, each time I found new things to do, most of them related to geometry. I think it's necessary to write some

Re: [Sugar-devel] status of adding up to 10?

2009-07-23 Thread Lucian Branescu
Crockford doesn't like it because if you forget to put new for a class declaration that otherwise needs it, all the attributes in the class are set on the global namespace. Hence, dangerous to forget. He suggests using factory functions, that create and return objects instead. Either way is

Re: [Sugar-devel] status of adding up to 10?

2009-07-24 Thread Lucian Branescu
http://www.jslint.com/, made by Crockford himself. There are others as well. 2009/7/24 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 14:20, Lucian Branesculucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: Crockford doesn't like it because if you forget to put new for a class declaration that

Re: [Sugar-devel] anybody working on qt integration in Sugar?

2009-07-24 Thread Lucian Branescu
I've only went as far as trying a PyQt4 hello world. With qgtkstyle, it picks up the Sugar style and works nicely. 2009/7/24 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: If so, please share the state of things because I'm going to dedicate a day to it during this weekend. Thanks, Tomeu

Re: [Sugar-devel] python hulahop article

2009-07-27 Thread Lucian Branescu
I've even heard that the mozilla folks want to deprecate XPCOM, in favour of more JavaScript usage in Firefox et all. 2009/7/26 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton l...@lkcl.net: what would be _especially_ good would be for xpcom to be broken out of xulrunner both in peoples' minds and also in actual

[Sugar-devel] Downloading data: URIs

2009-07-28 Thread Lucian Branescu
There's a bug in Browse preventing it to save data: URIs. http://trac.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1029 I've implemented a workaround. You can either get that patch or my Browse branch http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/browse/repos/webified to try it out. With data: URIs, web apps can create files and

Re: [Sugar-devel] logo for hulahop? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507499

2009-07-31 Thread Lucian Branescu
This is the browser's (called Browse actually) icon. http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/browse/repos/mainline/blobs/master/activity/activity-web.svg 2009/7/31 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton l...@lkcl.net: On 7/31/09, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 13:01, Luke

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Karma] Resolution considerations

2009-08-03 Thread Lucian Branescu
Those are in the right ballpark, but you should try to make the layout fluid if possible :) 2009/8/3 Christoph Derndorfer christoph.derndor...@gmail.com: Hi, after looking around a bit I think it makes sense to design Karma's Chakra and lesson menu around a baseline resolution of 1024*600 or

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] A security vs. functionality question

2009-08-06 Thread Lucian Branescu
Could you let the invited user in a chroot by default and only allow full access if the inviting user explicitly allows it? 2009/8/6 Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu: Gary C Martin wrote: How are two (or more!) remote individuals expected to co-operate and share the same command

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] A security vs. functionality question

2009-08-06 Thread Lucian Branescu
, though. I had assumed everyone has root access, it is such a basic need for a machine you own. 2009/8/7 Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu: Lucian Branescu wrote: Could you let the invited user in a chroot by default and only allow full access if the inviting user explicitly allows

[Sugar-devel] Design help needed for web applications within Sugar

2009-08-10 Thread Lucian Branescu
This a bit long-winded, but please bear with me. If you know my project, skip to the end. I've been working on Browse in the context of GSoC. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Webified Here's my blog http://honeyweb.wordpress.com and you can get the code from here

Re: [Sugar-devel] Design help needed for web applications within Sugar

2009-08-10 Thread Lucian Branescu
) is an even better screenshot. 2009/8/10 Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu: Lucian Branescu wrote: How should these features be presented to the user? The screenshots on my blog show the current situation. They do? I don't see anything there that shows the current SSB creation or site

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