Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] Hidden SSID and Proxy settings

2011-03-07 Thread Sascha Silbe
Excerpts from Jerry Vonau's message of Mon Mar 07 09:51:30 +0100 2011:

 Yes, think that would be a good idea, with this method connections.cfg
 can be empty. Perhaps network.py can just use/create the needed file
 for /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ or make that an option
 available in control panel.

Using system instead of user settings in Sugar has been planned for some
time now [1], but I didn't get around to working on it.

The first beta of NetworkManager 0.9 has been released [2] a few days
ago. As of that version, the distinction between system and user
settings is gone for good [3], so it makes more sense to migrate [4] to
0.9 right away instead of moving to system settings first.

As part of the 0.9 migration I'd like us to show configured connections
in addition to the currently visible access points. This should help
users working in less-than-perfect environments (disabled beacons, VPNs,
access points on different sites that need different credentials but
have the same SSID, etc.).

We should also try to move our Ad Hoc auto-connect logic into
NetworkManager. Not only would it make our code simpler and easier to
debug, but non-Sugar users would benefit from the automatic under the
tree networking as well. Even Mac OS X seems to have something similar
to automatic Ad Hoc networking + link-local collaboration now (called
AirDrop [5]).

Sascha

[1] https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1884
[2] http://mail.gnome.org/archives/networkmanager-list/2011-March/msg00020.html
[3] http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManager/ApiSimplify
[4] http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/developers/migrating-to-09/
[5] http://www.apple.com/macosx/lion/
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] Hidden SSID and Proxy settings

2011-03-07 Thread David Farning
 -Original Message-
 From: sugar-devel-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org [mailto:sugar-devel-
 boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org] On Behalf Of Sascha Silbe
 Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 4:49 AM
 To: Jerry Vonau
 Cc: Ardito; sugar-devel; dr.ger...@xo15-sascha.sascha.silbe.org; James
 Cameron; OLPC Devel
 Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [Server-devel] Hidden SSID and Proxy settings
 
 Excerpts from Jerry Vonau's message of Mon Mar 07 09:51:30 +0100 2011:
 
  Yes, think that would be a good idea, with this method connections.cfg
  can be empty. Perhaps network.py can just use/create the needed file
  for /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ or make that an option
  available in control panel.
 
 Using system instead of user settings in Sugar has been planned for some time
 now [1], but I didn't get around to working on it.
 
 The first beta of NetworkManager 0.9 has been released [2] a few days ago. As
 of that version, the distinction between system and user settings is gone for
 good [3], so it makes more sense to migrate [4] to
 0.9 right away instead of moving to system settings first.
 
 As part of the 0.9 migration I'd like us to show configured connections in
 addition to the currently visible access points. This should help users 
 working in
 less-than-perfect environments (disabled beacons, VPNs, access points on
 different sites that need different credentials but have the same SSID, etc.).
 
 We should also try to move our Ad Hoc auto-connect logic into
 NetworkManager. Not only would it make our code simpler and easier to debug,
 but non-Sugar users would benefit from the automatic under the tree
 networking as well. Even Mac OS X seems to have something similar to
 automatic Ad Hoc networking + link-local collaboration now (called AirDrop 
 [5]).

Have you thought about the resources you need to complete this and when it 
might land?

This is a critical task which is asked for by every deployment.

david
 
 Sascha
 
 [1] https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/1884
 [2] http://mail.gnome.org/archives/networkmanager-list/2011-
 March/msg00020.html
 [3] http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManager/ApiSimplify
 [4] http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/developers/migrating-to-09/
 [5] http://www.apple.com/macosx/lion/
 --
 http://sascha.silbe.org/
 http://www.infra-silbe.de/

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