Re: [Sugar-devel] New year, new testing image
Sorry for the long delay, I started a draft response on a tablet that I didn't pick up for some time. On 01/05/2014 08:33 PM, Matthew Ciao wrote: Hi Bernie, how are you going there? Lng time no see, hope you're doing well mate! :) So I'm still here in Cambridge MA, enjoying the freezing weather of New England. And you're enjoying the nice, mild weather of Sydney, I suppose? Can I ask to what degree you're planning to use AU images? Would it be for testing only (yourself?) or actual major deployments? I've installed the oz images on all my XOs. I've setup a mini-museum of OLPC at Google's Cambridge office. People passing by sometimes stop and play with the laptops, so I want them to see the best version of Sugar available. Sorry I couldn't find the time to test properly and file bugs. Very briefly, the AU software now includes a statistics-collection software that sends data to our servers matching the serial number of the XO against our local serial-numbers database. This means that if you're going to deploy the image on, say 100 laptops, those will then sync data to our db which results in serial numbers not matching. I am worried about the scale of this issue, which might fill our db with incoherent data so perhaps (Martin, Gonzalo?) we should think about a way to prevent any confusion in case the AU image is used somewhere else around the world. Have you thought of asking for permission to send statistics as part of first-time setup? Then I'd just answer no and be done. Moreover, it's standard industry practice to obtain explicit user consent for data collection, and if you don't do that soon or later someone might get upset. -- _ // Bernie Innocenti \X/ http://codewiz.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] New year, new testing image
Hi Mattew, Here we have two alternatives: * Filter our data with a database of serial numbers. * Provide two different images, one for testing, one for the AU deployment. If you ask me, I prefer (obviously) not need to do 2 different images, but is not too difficult (just change one rpm), but time consuming. Gonzalo On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 10:33 PM, Matthew Ciao matt...@laptop.org.au wrote: On 6 January 2014 11:48, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: Hi Bernie, Could you please release images built for all XO models? It's ok if you can't offer to support them. Hi Bernie, how are you going there? Lng time no see, hope you're doing well mate! :) Can I ask to what degree you're planning to use AU images? Would it be for testing only (yourself?) or actual major deployments? Very briefly, the AU software now includes a statistics-collection software that sends data to our servers matching the serial number of the XO against our local serial-numbers database. This means that if you're going to deploy the image on, say 100 laptops, those will then sync data to our db which results in serial numbers not matching. I am worried about the scale of this issue, which might fill our db with incoherent data so perhaps (Martin, Gonzalo?) we should think about a way to prevent any confusion in case the AU image is used somewhere else around the world. Cheers Bernie! Matthew I have tried [1] but in some way my build system was broken and I get errors when try to create images for the other models. I will try again and report about the errors, maybe someone knows how to solve it. Also, would you mind creating a wiki page with release notes, bug report contacts, etc? That is the page we have. [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.100/Testing#Testing_images Gonzalo -- _ // Bernie Innocenti \X/ http://codewiz.org To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to xo+unsubscr...@laptop.org.au. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] New year, new testing image
On 01/01/2014 03:28 PM, Gonzalo Odiard wrote: Happy new year! I have prepared a new testing image with the usual bug fixes, and features needed by the AU deployment, for xo-4. You can download from: http://dev.laptop.org/~gonzalo/AU1B/33026xx4.zd md5file: http://dev.laptop.org/~gonzalo/AU1B/33026xx4.zd.md5 A new feature included is the integration of the Help activity and the help shortcut. Based on the work of Kalpa Welivitigoda [1], now you can press Ctrl+Shift+H, and get a help related with the place where you are. NOTE: By a known bug, you need use the help activity at least one time before using the shortcut, to see the images. Testing is welcomed! Could you please release images built for all XO models? It's ok if you can't offer to support them. Also, would you mind creating a wiki page with release notes, bug report contacts, etc? -- _ // Bernie Innocenti \X/ http://codewiz.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] New year, new testing image
Hi Bernie, Could you please release images built for all XO models? It's ok if you can't offer to support them. I have tried [1] but in some way my build system was broken and I get errors when try to create images for the other models. I will try again and report about the errors, maybe someone knows how to solve it. Also, would you mind creating a wiki page with release notes, bug report contacts, etc? That is the page we have. [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.100/Testing#Testing_images Gonzalo -- _ // Bernie Innocenti \X/ http://codewiz.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] New year, new testing image
This is our statistics service http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Harvest, but I have broken the configuration... Thanks! Gonzalo On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 4:19 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: Installed fine, tested fine. One of my border routers detected a new behaviour; a failed DNS lookup for the names harvest.one and harvest.one.localdomain. Both queries were failed by the server with NXDomain. Is the harvest_hostname correctly configured in this build? How does the learner opt out of the feature? It isn't clear from the control panel extension how to do this. In recent times there is a greater risk from software that phones home [1]. 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoning_home -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] New year, new testing image
A fixed rpm is on the repository. Should be updated automatically (the updater try once in the day) and after a reboot, configuration would be fixed. If impatient, you can run dextrose-updater in the terminal, and reboot. Gonzalo On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: This is our statistics service http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Harvest, but I have broken the configuration... Thanks! Gonzalo On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 4:19 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: Installed fine, tested fine. One of my border routers detected a new behaviour; a failed DNS lookup for the names harvest.one and harvest.one.localdomain. Both queries were failed by the server with NXDomain. Is the harvest_hostname correctly configured in this build? How does the learner opt out of the feature? It isn't clear from the control panel extension how to do this. In recent times there is a greater risk from software that phones home [1]. 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoning_home -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] New year, new testing image
Installed fine, tested fine. One of my border routers detected a new behaviour; a failed DNS lookup for the names harvest.one and harvest.one.localdomain. Both queries were failed by the server with NXDomain. Is the harvest_hostname correctly configured in this build? How does the learner opt out of the feature? It isn't clear from the control panel extension how to do this. In recent times there is a greater risk from software that phones home [1]. 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoning_home -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
