Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support (journal vs activity)

2009-04-21 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vamsi Krishna Davuluri wrote: [quoting tomeu] I would like to know how we can expect that Sugar will be deployed with all the filters that the user will need as she installs more activities. Also would like to know if it has been considered to use

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support (journal vs activity)

2009-04-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 15:28, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Vamsi Krishna Davuluri wrote: [quoting tomeu] I would like to know how we can expect that Sugar will be deployed with all the filters that the user will need as

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support (journal vs activity)

2009-04-21 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tomeu Vizoso wrote: - (py)gtk activities use gtkprint. This means that they have an abstraction for printing to cups, lpr and to a file (ps or pdf). ... - implement a moodle module where users can upload whatever file they have in the journal.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support (journal vs activity)

2009-04-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 18:17, Benjamin M. Schwartz bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tomeu Vizoso wrote: - (py)gtk activities use gtkprint. This means that they have an abstraction for printing to cups, lpr and to a file (ps or pdf). ... -

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support (journal vs activity)

2009-04-21 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Printing is not limited to uploading files to moodle, we provide both local and server printing and users will use whatever works in their environment. I think this is too much for one Summer of Code project. That's why I have

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support (journal vs activity)

2009-04-21 Thread Walter Bender
It seems we can attack this in simple steps (sorry for the rehash of what has already be said): (1) a mechanism for printing Journal objects (anything of mime-type .pdf, txt, jpg, png, etc.) (2) an example of optional mechanisms for activities to drop additional printable objects into the Journal

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support (journal vs activity)

2009-04-21 Thread Carol Farlow Lerche
It's entirely unclear what this project has morphed to. Tomeu, what use is uploading arbitrary journal entries to Moodle? I thought creating pdf output in sugar and enabling uploading of the pdf to Moodle was the point of this project. That is useful in two ways. First, it is a path to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support (journal vs activity)

2009-04-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 19:02, Carol Farlow Lerche c...@msbit.com wrote: It's entirely unclear what this project has morphed to.  Tomeu, what use is uploading arbitrary journal entries to Moodle? Because the chances that the needed filter to convert that file to a printable format is in the

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support (journal vs activity)

2009-04-21 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 05:56:59PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: I think we should solve our printing problem by extending this list to a few more common formats.  Add in python source and the Open Document Format, and we're pretty much done.  There are very few Activities that generate

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support (journal vs activity)

2009-04-21 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 19:20, Sascha Silbe sascha-ml-ui-sugar-de...@silbe.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 05:56:59PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: I think we should solve our printing problem by extending this list to a few more common formats.  Add in python source and the Open Document

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support (journal vs activity)

2009-04-21 Thread Jameson Quinn
OK, we just had an animated conversation on IRC in which almost nothing was generally agreed-on. Here's my refined proposal based on that conversation. Print preview option in journal Uses cups filters to convert to PDF Set of cups filters available is distribution dependent. An officially print

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support (journal vs activity)

2009-04-21 Thread Jameson Quinn
Ooops, I forgot. In my proposal, local printing would be done by a separate activity which handled only PDFs. Many deployments would never install this separate activity. On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Jameson Quinn jameson.qu...@gmail.comwrote: OK, we just had an animated conversation on

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support (journal vs activity)

2009-04-21 Thread Jameson Quinn
Vamsi, for your reference, here is the discussion on IRC in which nobody agreed on anything, but we all wanted to take over design of your project. We're just being enthusiastic, and there's some significant degree of bike-shedding http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_Law_of_Trivialityhere.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Print Support (journal vs activity)

2009-04-21 Thread Andrés Ambrois
On Tuesday 21 April 2009 14:16:36 Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 19:02, Carol Farlow Lerche c...@msbit.com wrote: It's entirely unclear what this project has morphed to. Tomeu, what use is uploading arbitrary journal entries to Moodle? Because the chances that the needed