Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Framework for full HTML5 activity - subject proposal for GSoC
It looks pretty good to me. I have a start of the UI stuff here https://github.com/ayopa/xi-artwork https://github.com/ayopa/xi-graphics Not much to see yet, but you can write a very basic toolbar with it and display xo colored icons. https://github.com/ayopa/omega-examples/tree/master/toolbar https://github.com/ayopa/omega-examples/tree/master/icons Using volojs for the initial template and to pull in libraries is working out pretty well I think. Nice job. It could be a good start for the lookfeel item. Lionel. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Framework for full HTML5 activity - subject proposal for GSoC
Very interesting. I had this very same conversation with Seth Woodworth in Cambridge a few weeks ago. We also talked about the possibility of some of the apps from the FirefoxOS world finding their way into re-wrapped Sugar activities. Thanks all for comments. I've wrote a first draft of the proposal here [1], the feature list is inspired by comments from Scott [2] on my original work. Do not hesitate to update/comment it. Lionel. [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2013#Sugar_Framework_for_writing _activity_in_full_HTML5 [2] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2013-January/041616.html ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Framework for full HTML5 activity - subject proposal for GSoC
On 23 March 2013 08:25, lio...@olpc-france.org wrote: Thanks all for comments. I've wrote a first draft of the proposal here [1], the feature list is inspired by comments from Scott [2] on my original work. Do not hesitate to update/comment it. Lionel. [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2013#Sugar_Framework_for_writing _activity_in_full_HTML5 [2] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2013-January/041616.html It looks pretty good to me. I have a start of the UI stuff here https://github.com/ayopa/xi-artwork https://github.com/ayopa/xi-graphics Not much to see yet, but you can write a very basic toolbar with it and display xo colored icons. https://github.com/ayopa/omega-examples/tree/master/toolbar https://github.com/ayopa/omega-examples/tree/master/icons Using volojs for the initial template and to pull in libraries is working out pretty well I think. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Framework for full HTML5 activity - subject proposal for GSoC
+1 On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 9:16 AM, lio...@olpc-france.org wrote: Hi all, I’m thinking to do a proposal for GSoC around “Sugar Framework for writing activity in full HTML5/JavaScript”. My idea is to package and enhance the work I’ve done on [1], specifically to fully avoid the need to write any Python code. I’ve got experience of student mentoring but never on GSoC mentoring. Plus I’m not fully aware of Sugar internal and about the capacity to build something like a new sort of activity packaging. So, if you think that it could be a good GSoC subject for Sugar and if someone is okay to co-mentoring with me, I could do a proposal. Tell me. Best regards from France. Lionel. [1] http://booki.flossmanuals.net/make-your-own-sugar-activities/_draft/_v/1.0/developing-sugar-activities-using-html5/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Framework for full HTML5 activity - subject proposal for GSoC
Lionel, I think this is definitely a great idea for GSoC. I like the work you've done in this area, but there was a fair amount of discussion on this list recently about different ways you could go about making an HTML 5 Activity and maybe this task could involve looking at several of these options. I definitely like the idea of having a sort of Phone Gap for Sugar where you could package up HTML 5 as an Activity without writing Python code. James Simmons On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM, lio...@olpc-france.org wrote: Hi all, ** ** I’m thinking to do a proposal for GSoC around “Sugar Framework for writing activity in full HTML5/JavaScript”. My idea is to package and enhance the work I’ve done on [1], specifically to fully avoid the need to write any Python code. I’ve got experience of student mentoring but never on GSoC mentoring. Plus I’m not fully aware of Sugar internal and about the capacity to build something like a new sort of activity packaging. So, if you think that it could be a good GSoC subject for Sugar and if someone is okay to co-mentoring with me, I could do a proposal. ** ** Tell me. ** ** Best regards from France. ** ** Lionel. ** ** ** ** [1] http://booki.flossmanuals.net/make-your-own-sugar-activities/_draft/_v/1.0/developing-sugar-activities-using-html5/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Framework for full HTML5 activity - subject proposal for GSoC
May be you can coordinate with Daniel Narvaez? He was working on web activities too. Gonzalo On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:16 AM, lio...@olpc-france.org wrote: Hi all, ** ** I’m thinking to do a proposal for GSoC around “Sugar Framework for writing activity in full HTML5/JavaScript”. My idea is to package and enhance the work I’ve done on [1], specifically to fully avoid the need to write any Python code. I’ve got experience of student mentoring but never on GSoC mentoring. Plus I’m not fully aware of Sugar internal and about the capacity to build something like a new sort of activity packaging. So, if you think that it could be a good GSoC subject for Sugar and if someone is okay to co-mentoring with me, I could do a proposal. ** ** Tell me. ** ** Best regards from France. ** ** Lionel. ** ** ** ** [1] http://booki.flossmanuals.net/make-your-own-sugar-activities/_draft/_v/1.0/developing-sugar-activities-using-html5/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Framework for full HTML5 activity - subject proposal for GSoC
On Fri, March 22, 2013 10:29 am, James Simmons wrote: Lionel, I think this is definitely a great idea for GSoC. I like the work you've done in this area, but there was a fair amount of discussion on this list recently about different ways you could go about making an HTML 5 Activity and maybe this task could involve looking at several of these options. I definitely like the idea of having a sort of Phone Gap for Sugar where you could package up HTML 5 as an Activity without writing Python code. Would there be a way to integrate HTML 5 with existing Sugar activities? This would help greatly in our Replacing Textbooks program, so that we could integrate Sugar into a curriculum and all of its learning materials. James Simmons On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM, lio...@olpc-france.org wrote: Hi all, ** ** I’m thinking to do a proposal for GSoC around “Sugar Framework for writing activity in full HTML5/JavaScript”. My idea is to package and enhance the work I’ve done on [1], specifically to fully avoid the need to write any Python code. I’ve got experience of student mentoring but never on GSoC mentoring. Plus I’m not fully aware of Sugar internal and about the capacity to build something like a new sort of activity packaging. So, if you think that it could be a good GSoC subject for Sugar and if someone is okay to co-mentoring with me, I could do a proposal. ** ** Tell me. ** ** Best regards from France. ** ** Lionel. -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/निशब्दगर्ज/نشبدگرج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Framework for full HTML5 activity - subject proposal for GSoC
I feel like there is a bit of confusion about both html activities and
sugar on android which, in my mind, are pretty interconnected. I'm happy to
write up a proposal if that helps moving towards a consensus and some kind
of plan. It would probably take me a few days though.
On Friday, 22 March 2013, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
May be you can coordinate with Daniel Narvaez?
He was working on web activities too.
Gonzalo
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Hi all,
** **
I’m thinking to do a proposal for GSoC around “Sugar Framework for
writing activity in full HTML5/JavaScript”.
My idea is to package and enhance the work I’ve done on [1], specifically
to fully avoid the need to write any Python code.
I’ve got experience of student mentoring but never on GSoC mentoring.
Plus I’m not fully aware of Sugar internal and about the capacity to
build something like a new sort of activity packaging.
So, if you think that it could be a good GSoC subject for Sugar and if
someone is okay to co-mentoring with me, I could do a proposal.
** **
Tell me.
** **
Best regards from France.
** **
Lionel.
** **
** **
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Framework for full HTML5 activity - subject proposal for GSoC
Edward, Since the Read Activity uses WebKit for reading EPUBs it seems likely that you could make an EPUB with JavaScript in it and make a sort of electronic pop-up book out of it. It might not be a strictly kosher EPUB, but Read probably wouldn't care. Maybe this could be something else to look at. You could make a packaging utility that takes an HTML file and any subdirectories beneath it and packages it as either a Sugar Activity or an EPUB. The utility could be written in Python and PyGTK so you could run it on any OS, and maybe it could run as a Sugar Activity as well. James Simmons On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Edward Mokurai Cherlin moku...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Fri, March 22, 2013 10:29 am, James Simmons wrote: Lionel, I think this is definitely a great idea for GSoC. I like the work you've done in this area, but there was a fair amount of discussion on this list recently about different ways you could go about making an HTML 5 Activity and maybe this task could involve looking at several of these options. I definitely like the idea of having a sort of Phone Gap for Sugar where you could package up HTML 5 as an Activity without writing Python code. Would there be a way to integrate HTML 5 with existing Sugar activities? This would help greatly in our Replacing Textbooks program, so that we could integrate Sugar into a curriculum and all of its learning materials. James Simmons On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM, lio...@olpc-france.org wrote: Hi all, ** ** I’m thinking to do a proposal for GSoC around “Sugar Framework for writing activity in full HTML5/JavaScript”. My idea is to package and enhance the work I’ve done on [1], specifically to fully avoid the need to write any Python code. I’ve got experience of student mentoring but never on GSoC mentoring. Plus I’m not fully aware of Sugar internal and about the capacity to build something like a new sort of activity packaging. So, if you think that it could be a good GSoC subject for Sugar and if someone is okay to co-mentoring with me, I could do a proposal. ** ** Tell me. ** ** Best regards from France. ** ** Lionel. -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/निशब्दगर्ज/نشبدگرج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Replacing_Textbooks ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Framework for full HTML5 activity - subject proposal for GSoC
I feel like there is a bit of confusion about both html activities and sugar on android which, in my mind, are pretty interconnected. I'm happy to write up a proposal if that helps moving towards a consensus and some kind of plan. It would probably take me a few days though. HTML activities on Sugar could be a first step to Android porting but IMO, the two projects are not necessarily interconnected. I do like the James idea of a PhoneGap framework for Sugar. This is the way I think this GSoC proposal. At the end of the GSoC we can hope to have a binding of the framework for Sugar on Fedora, then in few months a binding of the framework for Sugar on Android. So, the framework will be a way to ensure a portability between Sugar/Fedora and Sugar/Android. Im going to write a first draft of the proposal. We could update it collectively. Lionel. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Framework for full HTML5 activity - subject proposal for GSoC
On Friday, 22 March 2013, wrote: HTML activities on Sugar could be a first step to Android porting but IMO, the two projects are not necessarily interconnected. I do like the James idea of a “PhoneGap” framework for Sugar. This is the way I think this GSoC proposal. At the end of the GSoC we can hope to have a binding of the framework for Sugar on Fedora, then in few months a binding of the framework for Sugar on Android. So, the framework will be a way to ensure a portability between Sugar/Fedora and Sugar/Android. I think we basically agree here. I see them interconnected in the sense that the framework is designed to allow bindings on multiple platforms. But of course the GSoC project should focus on only one of them. I’m going to write a first draft of the proposal. We could update it collectively. Cool. I will read it and comment. -- Daniel Narvaez ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Framework for full HTML5 activity - subject proposal for GSoC
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 7:29 AM, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: Lionel, I think this is definitely a great idea for GSoC. I like the work you've done in this area, but there was a fair amount of discussion on this list recently about different ways you could go about making an HTML 5 Activity and maybe this task could involve looking at several of these options. I definitely like the idea of having a sort of Phone Gap for Sugar where you could package up HTML 5 as an Activity without writing Python code. Very interesting. I had this very same conversation with Seth Woodworth in Cambridge a few weeks ago. We also talked about the possibility of some of the apps from the FirefoxOS world finding their way into re-wrapped Sugar activities. I've cc'd Seth on this. cheers, Sameer James Simmons On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 8:16 AM, lio...@olpc-france.org wrote: Hi all, I’m thinking to do a proposal for GSoC around “Sugar Framework for writing activity in full HTML5/JavaScript”. My idea is to package and enhance the work I’ve done on [1], specifically to fully avoid the need to write any Python code. I’ve got experience of student mentoring but never on GSoC mentoring. Plus I’m not fully aware of Sugar internal and about the capacity to build something like a new sort of activity packaging. So, if you think that it could be a good GSoC subject for Sugar and if someone is okay to co-mentoring with me, I could do a proposal. Tell me. Best regards from France. Lionel. [1] http://booki.flossmanuals.net/make-your-own-sugar-activities/_draft/_v/1.0/developing-sugar-activities-using-html5/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
