Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar in Fedora 14
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 9:27 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: Since I struggled quite a bit I thought I'd report for others. Fresh F14 install, almost completely updated (it cannot find the newest kernel rpm in any repository for some reason, although it updated hundreds others). Hi burt, first of all sorry that i don't say godbay to you in saturday in edujam. I go back to my house and install a fresh Fedora 14 (on a 64 Bits machine) and I can install sugar with no problem. but i do thi yum install sugar-* to instal etoys i use the software manager and install the two packages: etoys and etoys-sugar but apears the errror that you comment. Another problem that i found it's that put the password every time its a little bit complicated for the childrens here is some images https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/dzmsBFGapg13zLg1zYopRA?feat=directlink https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/5CMvB-obQ1hT_8e3UXyQog?feat=directlink https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/lKXkLPEbtrAc-sw8Jipd4Q?feat=directlink ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar in Fedora 14
Hi Bert,
Does it run OK if you run it as native on Fedora 14? You should be
able to select it from the GDM login prompt (once you click on a
user).
Peter
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 1:27 AM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote:
Since I struggled quite a bit I thought I'd report for others.
Fresh F14 install, almost completely updated (it cannot find the newest
kernel rpm in any repository for some reason, although it updated hundreds
others).
Installing Sugar using the Add/Remove Software panel leaves out activities
and the emulator. You need to install on the command line with
yum groupinstall sugar-desktop
After installing, sugar-emulator fails with this error message:
Xephyr: ../../../include/privates.h:122: dixGetPrivateAddr: Assertion
`key-initialized' failed.
Googling reveals a workaround, adding -nodri to the Xephyr command line.
So I added that to /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/jarabe/util/emulator.py:
def _run_xephyr(display, dpi, dimensions, fullscreen):
cmd = ['Xephyr']
cmd.append(':%d' % display)
cmd.append('-ac')
cmd.append('-nodri') # WORKAROUND FOR CRASH IN F14
...
With this, Sugar starts from the Applications - Education menu.
It then asks for a keyring password. You need to enter your password,
otherwise the network neighborhood view will be empty. If you wait too long,
it quits again.
There are no activities in the ring initially. You need to switch to list
mode and star them.
Running Etoys fails because sugar-presence-service crashes with
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/bin/sugar-presence-service, line 24, in module
main.main()
File /usr/share/sugar-presence-service/main.py, line 64, in main
presenceservice.main(test_num, randomize)
File /usr/share/sugar-presence-service/presenceservice.py, line 894, in
main
ps = PresenceService()
File /usr/share/sugar-presence-service/presenceservice.py, line 88, in
__init__
self._owner = self._create_owner()
File /usr/share/sugar-presence-service/presenceservice.py, line 57, in
_create_owner
return ShellOwner(self, self._session_bus)
File /usr/share/sugar-presence-service/buddy.py, line 866, in __init__
f = open(icon_file, r)
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
'/home/bert/.sugar/default/buddy-icon.jpg
You can work around that in Etoys by making /usr/share/etoys/etoys.* writable
temporarily, running Etoys again, dismissing the error notifier, loading
updates, saving the image, and make the files write-only again. This avoids
using presence-service at startup. Sharing will still not work with the
borked PS of course.
My own XO icon went missing from the neighborhood view, see screenshot below.
The error in shell.log might be related:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/jarabe/desktop/meshbox.py, line 460,
in do_size_allocate
self._layout.move(self._owner_icon, x, y)
File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/jarabe/desktop/spreadlayout.py, line
53, in move
self._grid.move(child, x / _CELL_SIZE, y / _CELL_SIZE, locked=True)
File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/jarabe/desktop/grid.py, line 88, in
move
self.remove_weight(self._child_rects[child])
KeyError: BuddyIcon object at 0xa4ba0a4 (CanvasIcon at 0xa59ba70)
Or this one:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/connection.py, line 589, in
msg_reply_handler
*message.get_args_list()))
File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py, line
212, in __error_handler_cb
error))
RuntimeError: Error when calling BuddyInfo.GetProperties:
org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Error.NetworkError: Failed to query the PEP node:
the addressed JID or item requested cannot be found
I don't know if any of these problems have been solved in the mean time, at
least no update was available that looked like a fix. I have a system for
developing now, so I'm not really complaining. Just wanted to point out some
obstacles, because someone (can't remember who) said F14 was the best to get
a working Sugar for developing.
- Bert -
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar in Fedora 14
Running as a session it does not ask for a keyring password. Good. But there
are no peers in the neighborhood view either. There are no network logfiles
created in .sugar/default/logs, though according to ps, telepathy is running.
Presence-service fails with the same error.
- Bert -
On 14.05.2011, at 12:29, Peter Robinson wrote:
Hi Bert,
Does it run OK if you run it as native on Fedora 14? You should be
able to select it from the GDM login prompt (once you click on a
user).
Peter
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 1:27 AM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de
wrote:
Since I struggled quite a bit I thought I'd report for others.
Fresh F14 install, almost completely updated (it cannot find the newest
kernel rpm in any repository for some reason, although it updated hundreds
others).
Installing Sugar using the Add/Remove Software panel leaves out activities
and the emulator. You need to install on the command line with
yum groupinstall sugar-desktop
After installing, sugar-emulator fails with this error message:
Xephyr: ../../../include/privates.h:122: dixGetPrivateAddr:
Assertion `key-initialized' failed.
Googling reveals a workaround, adding -nodri to the Xephyr command line.
So I added that to /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/jarabe/util/emulator.py:
def _run_xephyr(display, dpi, dimensions, fullscreen):
cmd = ['Xephyr']
cmd.append(':%d' % display)
cmd.append('-ac')
cmd.append('-nodri')# WORKAROUND FOR CRASH IN F14
...
With this, Sugar starts from the Applications - Education menu.
It then asks for a keyring password. You need to enter your password,
otherwise the network neighborhood view will be empty. If you wait too long,
it quits again.
There are no activities in the ring initially. You need to switch to list
mode and star them.
Running Etoys fails because sugar-presence-service crashes with
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/bin/sugar-presence-service, line 24, in module
main.main()
File /usr/share/sugar-presence-service/main.py, line 64, in main
presenceservice.main(test_num, randomize)
File /usr/share/sugar-presence-service/presenceservice.py, line 894, in
main
ps = PresenceService()
File /usr/share/sugar-presence-service/presenceservice.py, line 88, in
__init__
self._owner = self._create_owner()
File /usr/share/sugar-presence-service/presenceservice.py, line 57, in
_create_owner
return ShellOwner(self, self._session_bus)
File /usr/share/sugar-presence-service/buddy.py, line 866, in __init__
f = open(icon_file, r)
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
'/home/bert/.sugar/default/buddy-icon.jpg
You can work around that in Etoys by making /usr/share/etoys/etoys.*
writable temporarily, running Etoys again, dismissing the error notifier,
loading updates, saving the image, and make the files write-only again. This
avoids using presence-service at startup. Sharing will still not work with
the borked PS of course.
My own XO icon went missing from the neighborhood view, see screenshot
below. The error in shell.log might be related:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/jarabe/desktop/meshbox.py, line
460, in do_size_allocate
self._layout.move(self._owner_icon, x, y)
File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/jarabe/desktop/spreadlayout.py,
line 53, in move
self._grid.move(child, x / _CELL_SIZE, y / _CELL_SIZE, locked=True)
File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/jarabe/desktop/grid.py, line 88, in
move
self.remove_weight(self._child_rects[child])
KeyError: BuddyIcon object at 0xa4ba0a4 (CanvasIcon at 0xa59ba70)
Or this one:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/dbus/connection.py, line 589, in
msg_reply_handler
*message.get_args_list()))
File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/jarabe/model/neighborhood.py, line
212, in __error_handler_cb
error))
RuntimeError: Error when calling BuddyInfo.GetProperties:
org.freedesktop.Telepathy.Error.NetworkError: Failed to query the PEP node:
the addressed JID or item requested cannot be found
I don't know if any of these problems have been solved in the mean time, at
least no update was available that looked like a fix. I have a system for
developing now, so I'm not really complaining. Just wanted to point out some
obstacles, because someone (can't remember who) said F14 was the best to get
a working Sugar for developing.
- Bert -
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar in Fedora 14
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: Running as a session it does not ask for a keyring password. Good. But there are no peers in the neighborhood view either. There are no network logfiles created in .sugar/default/logs, though according to ps, telepathy is running. Presence-service fails with the same error. Network logs are in the main shell.log last time I looked. presence-service is obsolete, but etoys still uses it and nothing else. No idea why it no longer runs. I wish etoys would hurry up and fix their issues so I can kill it properly. Peter ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar in Fedora 14
On 14.05.2011, at 23:06, Peter Robinson wrote: On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: Running as a session it does not ask for a keyring password. Good. But there are no peers in the neighborhood view either. There are no network logfiles created in .sugar/default/logs, though according to ps, telepathy is running. Presence-service fails with the same error. Network logs are in the main shell.log last time I looked. There is nothing network-related in shell.log. presence-service is obsolete, but etoys still uses it and nothing else. No idea why it no longer runs. Because PS does not find the buddy icon file. If I do touch ~/.sugar/default/buddy-icon.jpg then Etoys starts fine. - Bert - ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar in Fedora 14
That's because sugar-presence-service-0.90.2-1.fc14 {which fixes this} needs
to be approved to move from testing to stable. If you install it from
updates-testing it should work correctly without the file.
In general there are a few things one needs to do to get Sugar working
beyond single-user-mode or with Jabber in Fedora. If you are using Salut,
you will have to make sure that avahi-daemon is enabled with mDNS allowed
through Fedora's default firewall (along with possibly some other ports;
this is currently being debated in Redhat BZ #699432).
There are also a number of collaboration bugs from Sugar 0.90 which Sugar
0.92 is only starting to fix.
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.dewrote:
On 14.05.2011, at 23:06, Peter Robinson wrote:
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de
wrote:
Running as a session it does not ask for a keyring password. Good. But
there are no peers in the neighborhood view either. There are no network
logfiles created in .sugar/default/logs, though according to ps, telepathy
is running. Presence-service fails with the same error.
Network logs are in the main shell.log last time I looked.
There is nothing network-related in shell.log.
presence-service is obsolete, but etoys still uses it and nothing
else. No idea why it no longer runs.
Because PS does not find the buddy icon file. If I do
touch ~/.sugar/default/buddy-icon.jpg
then Etoys starts fine.
- Bert -
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar in Fedora 14
On Sat, May 14, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Samuel Greenfeld greenf...@laptop.org wrote:
That's because sugar-presence-service-0.90.2-1.fc14 {which fixes this} needs
to be approved to move from testing to stable. If you install it from
updates-testing it should work correctly without the file.
I make the changes and the etoys works welll
In general there are a few things one needs to do to get Sugar working
beyond single-user-mode or with Jabber in Fedora. If you are using Salut,
you will have to make sure that avahi-daemon is enabled with mDNS allowed
through Fedora's default firewall (along with possibly some other ports;
this is currently being debated in Redhat BZ #699432).
this i wiil do it tomorrow
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