Re: [sumo-user] Improve SUMO-GUI performance

[Jakob Erdmann]

My guess would be that the games you ran use DirectX whereas SUMO-GUI uses
OpenGL and Microsoft has a history of neglecting OpenGL support in favour
of its proprietary API.

2017-01-08 22:07 GMT+01:00 Green Mind :

> Hi,
>
> I ended up installing sumo natively on OSX (took me a while after heaving
> many compilation errors..), and the results are indeed much much better.
>
> I wonder what is causing the horrible GUI performance with Windows 10
> running under Paralells - anyone has an idea? I can easily run any other
> software, including some AAA games under Windows 10 virtual machine without
> any issues. Only sumo-gui is performing sluggishly.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 6:26 PM, sumo.mahei 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > did you try using macports?
> >
> > http://www.sumo.dlr.de/userdoc/Installing/MacOS_Build.html
> >
> > Best Marek Heinrich
> > simoserv GmbH
> >
> >
> > Am 21.12.2016 um 18:07 schrieb Jakob Erdmann:
> >
> >> 2016-12-21 13:06 GMT+01:00 Green Mind :
> >>
> >> - What version of SUMO are you using? (I recommend trying the latest
> >>> release 0.28.0),
> >>>
> >>> I'm using the latest version 0.28.0
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> - What operating system are you using?
> >>>
> >>> Windows 10 running in a virtual machine (Parallels) under OSX 10.11.6
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> - GUI problems like the one you describe have been reportedly solved by
> >>> updating graphics drivers. Please try
> >>>
> >>> Since it's a virtual machine then the graphic drivers are all virtual.
> >>> Could this be related? Are there known issues with the GUI under VM?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> - Slow GUI can be caused by edges with highly detailed geometry (i.e. 1
> >>> geometry point per centimeter). This should not happen with a plain OSM
> >>> import though.
> >>>
> >>> It is a plain OSM import (with some filtering). Is there a simple way
> for
> >>> me to check this? How can I tell how many geometry point per cm?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Jakob Erdmann <
> >>> namdre.s...@googlemail.com
> >>>
>  wrote:
>  - What version of SUMO are you using? (I recommend trying the latest
>  release 0.28.0),
>  - What operating system are you using?
>  - GUI problems like the one you describe have been reportedly solved
> by
>  updating graphics drivers. Please try
>  - Slow GUI can be caused by edges with highly detailed geometry (i.e.
> 1
>  geometry point per centimeter). This should not happen with a plain
> OSM
>  import though.
> 
> 
> 
>  2016-12-20 14:29 GMT+01:00 Green Mind :
> 
>  Hi Jakob,
> >
> > I've tried a smaller map with only ~3500 edges, and it is still
> almost
> > unusable when zooming out to see the whole network. When I open the
> > map I
> > don't see anything - just blank screen. Only after I zoom in a
> certain
> > amount, I start seeing roads.
> >
> > The slow GUI seems to also affect the speed of the simulation itself
> -
> > i.e., each simulation step seems to take longer time.
> >
> > Any idea what might cause this?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Jakob Erdmann <
> > namdre.s...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > How many edges are in your network and what percentage of the network
> >> are you looking at when the gui starts to feel slow?
> >> Is it only slow during simulation or also when you are opening the
> >> network without any vehicles?
> >>
> >> As a reference: When looking at the network of Berlin with ~200k
> edges
> >> it is still usable and there is hardly any delay when zooming to
> show
> >> about
> >> a quarter of the network.
> >>
> >> regards,
> >> Jakob
> >>
> >>
> >> 2016-11-29 20:34 GMT+01:00 Michael Behrisch <
> >> behri...@users.sourceforge.net>:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Are there any suggestions to improve the GUI performance when
>  looking at a whole city?
> 
> >>> you could try to limit the visualization by avoiding to draw
> junction
> >>> shapes (it is in the junction tab of the visualization settings)
> but
> >>> I
> >>> doubt that it helps much. You could also uncheck all boxes in the
> >>> street
> >>> visualization settings but when looking at the whole city there are
> >>> no
> >>> details drawn anyway. SUMO GUI i still missing a proper detail
> >>> reduction
> >>> scheme here, I think this ticket
> >>> http://sumo.dlr.de/trac.wsgi/ticket/2137 is also a result of this.
> >>>
> >>> In addition - when I zoom out the vehicles are too small to observe
>  at all. Is there a way to make them larger and observable even
> when
>  zoomed out?
> 
> >>> You can check the box Draw with constant size when zoomed out in
> the
> >>> vehicle visualization 

Re: [sumo-user] Improve SUMO-GUI performance

[Green Mind]

Hi,

I ended up installing sumo natively on OSX (took me a while after heaving
many compilation errors..), and the results are indeed much much better.

I wonder what is causing the horrible GUI performance with Windows 10
running under Paralells - anyone has an idea? I can easily run any other
software, including some AAA games under Windows 10 virtual machine without
any issues. Only sumo-gui is performing sluggishly.

Thanks.

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 6:26 PM, sumo.mahei 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> did you try using macports?
>
> http://www.sumo.dlr.de/userdoc/Installing/MacOS_Build.html
>
> Best Marek Heinrich
> simoserv GmbH
>
>
> Am 21.12.2016 um 18:07 schrieb Jakob Erdmann:
>
>> 2016-12-21 13:06 GMT+01:00 Green Mind :
>>
>> - What version of SUMO are you using? (I recommend trying the latest
>>> release 0.28.0),
>>>
>>> I'm using the latest version 0.28.0
>>>
>>>
>>> - What operating system are you using?
>>>
>>> Windows 10 running in a virtual machine (Parallels) under OSX 10.11.6
>>>
>>>
>>> - GUI problems like the one you describe have been reportedly solved by
>>> updating graphics drivers. Please try
>>>
>>> Since it's a virtual machine then the graphic drivers are all virtual.
>>> Could this be related? Are there known issues with the GUI under VM?
>>>
>>>
>>> - Slow GUI can be caused by edges with highly detailed geometry (i.e. 1
>>> geometry point per centimeter). This should not happen with a plain OSM
>>> import though.
>>>
>>> It is a plain OSM import (with some filtering). Is there a simple way for
>>> me to check this? How can I tell how many geometry point per cm?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Jakob Erdmann <
>>> namdre.s...@googlemail.com
>>>
 wrote:
 - What version of SUMO are you using? (I recommend trying the latest
 release 0.28.0),
 - What operating system are you using?
 - GUI problems like the one you describe have been reportedly solved by
 updating graphics drivers. Please try
 - Slow GUI can be caused by edges with highly detailed geometry (i.e. 1
 geometry point per centimeter). This should not happen with a plain OSM
 import though.



 2016-12-20 14:29 GMT+01:00 Green Mind :

 Hi Jakob,
>
> I've tried a smaller map with only ~3500 edges, and it is still almost
> unusable when zooming out to see the whole network. When I open the
> map I
> don't see anything - just blank screen. Only after I zoom in a certain
> amount, I start seeing roads.
>
> The slow GUI seems to also affect the speed of the simulation itself -
> i.e., each simulation step seems to take longer time.
>
> Any idea what might cause this?
>
> Thanks
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Jakob Erdmann <
> namdre.s...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> How many edges are in your network and what percentage of the network
>> are you looking at when the gui starts to feel slow?
>> Is it only slow during simulation or also when you are opening the
>> network without any vehicles?
>>
>> As a reference: When looking at the network of Berlin with ~200k edges
>> it is still usable and there is hardly any delay when zooming to show
>> about
>> a quarter of the network.
>>
>> regards,
>> Jakob
>>
>>
>> 2016-11-29 20:34 GMT+01:00 Michael Behrisch <
>> behri...@users.sourceforge.net>:
>>
>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Are there any suggestions to improve the GUI performance when
 looking at a whole city?

>>> you could try to limit the visualization by avoiding to draw junction
>>> shapes (it is in the junction tab of the visualization settings) but
>>> I
>>> doubt that it helps much. You could also uncheck all boxes in the
>>> street
>>> visualization settings but when looking at the whole city there are
>>> no
>>> details drawn anyway. SUMO GUI i still missing a proper detail
>>> reduction
>>> scheme here, I think this ticket
>>> http://sumo.dlr.de/trac.wsgi/ticket/2137 is also a result of this.
>>>
>>> In addition - when I zoom out the vehicles are too small to observe
 at all. Is there a way to make them larger and observable even when
 zoomed out?

>>> You can check the box Draw with constant size when zoomed out in the
>>> vehicle visualization settings.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> 
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Re: [sumo-user] Improve SUMO-GUI performance

[Jakob Erdmann]

2016-12-21 13:06 GMT+01:00 Green Mind :

> - What version of SUMO are you using? (I recommend trying the latest
> release 0.28.0),
>
> I'm using the latest version 0.28.0
>
>
> - What operating system are you using?
>
> Windows 10 running in a virtual machine (Parallels) under OSX 10.11.6
>
>
> - GUI problems like the one you describe have been reportedly solved by
> updating graphics drivers. Please try
>
> Since it's a virtual machine then the graphic drivers are all virtual.
> Could this be related? Are there known issues with the GUI under VM?
>
>
> - Slow GUI can be caused by edges with highly detailed geometry (i.e. 1
> geometry point per centimeter). This should not happen with a plain OSM
> import though.
>
> It is a plain OSM import (with some filtering). Is there a simple way for
> me to check this? How can I tell how many geometry point per cm?
>
>

>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Jakob Erdmann  > wrote:
>
>> - What version of SUMO are you using? (I recommend trying the latest
>> release 0.28.0),
>> - What operating system are you using?
>> - GUI problems like the one you describe have been reportedly solved by
>> updating graphics drivers. Please try
>> - Slow GUI can be caused by edges with highly detailed geometry (i.e. 1
>> geometry point per centimeter). This should not happen with a plain OSM
>> import though.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2016-12-20 14:29 GMT+01:00 Green Mind :
>>
>>> Hi Jakob,
>>>
>>> I've tried a smaller map with only ~3500 edges, and it is still almost
>>> unusable when zooming out to see the whole network. When I open the map I
>>> don't see anything - just blank screen. Only after I zoom in a certain
>>> amount, I start seeing roads.
>>>
>>> The slow GUI seems to also affect the speed of the simulation itself -
>>> i.e., each simulation step seems to take longer time.
>>>
>>> Any idea what might cause this?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Jakob Erdmann <
>>> namdre.s...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
 How many edges are in your network and what percentage of the network
 are you looking at when the gui starts to feel slow?
 Is it only slow during simulation or also when you are opening the
 network without any vehicles?

 As a reference: When looking at the network of Berlin with ~200k edges
 it is still usable and there is hardly any delay when zooming to show about
 a quarter of the network.

 regards,
 Jakob


 2016-11-29 20:34 GMT+01:00 Michael Behrisch <
 behri...@users.sourceforge.net>:

> Hi,
>
> > Are there any suggestions to improve the GUI performance when
> > looking at a whole city?
>
> you could try to limit the visualization by avoiding to draw junction
> shapes (it is in the junction tab of the visualization settings) but I
> doubt that it helps much. You could also uncheck all boxes in the
> street
> visualization settings but when looking at the whole city there are no
> details drawn anyway. SUMO GUI i still missing a proper detail
> reduction
> scheme here, I think this ticket
> http://sumo.dlr.de/trac.wsgi/ticket/2137 is also a result of this.
>
> > In addition - when I zoom out the vehicles are too small to observe
> > at all. Is there a way to make them larger and observable even when
> > zoomed out?
>
> You can check the box Draw with constant size when zoomed out in the
> vehicle visualization settings.
>
> Best regards,
> Michael
>
> 
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Re: [sumo-user] Improve SUMO-GUI performance

[Green Mind]

- What version of SUMO are you using? (I recommend trying the latest
release 0.28.0),

I'm using the latest version 0.28.0


- What operating system are you using?

Windows 10 running in a virtual machine (Parallels) under OSX 10.11.6


- GUI problems like the one you describe have been reportedly solved by
updating graphics drivers. Please try

Since it's a virtual machine then the graphic drivers are all virtual.
Could this be related? Are there known issues with the GUI under VM?


- Slow GUI can be caused by edges with highly detailed geometry (i.e. 1
geometry point per centimeter). This should not happen with a plain OSM
import though.

It is a plain OSM import (with some filtering). Is there a simple way for
me to check this? How can I tell how many geometry point per cm?


On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Jakob Erdmann 
wrote:

> - What version of SUMO are you using? (I recommend trying the latest
> release 0.28.0),
> - What operating system are you using?
> - GUI problems like the one you describe have been reportedly solved by
> updating graphics drivers. Please try
> - Slow GUI can be caused by edges with highly detailed geometry (i.e. 1
> geometry point per centimeter). This should not happen with a plain OSM
> import though.
>
>
>
> 2016-12-20 14:29 GMT+01:00 Green Mind :
>
>> Hi Jakob,
>>
>> I've tried a smaller map with only ~3500 edges, and it is still almost
>> unusable when zooming out to see the whole network. When I open the map I
>> don't see anything - just blank screen. Only after I zoom in a certain
>> amount, I start seeing roads.
>>
>> The slow GUI seems to also affect the speed of the simulation itself -
>> i.e., each simulation step seems to take longer time.
>>
>> Any idea what might cause this?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Jakob Erdmann > > wrote:
>>
>>> How many edges are in your network and what percentage of the network
>>> are you looking at when the gui starts to feel slow?
>>> Is it only slow during simulation or also when you are opening the
>>> network without any vehicles?
>>>
>>> As a reference: When looking at the network of Berlin with ~200k edges
>>> it is still usable and there is hardly any delay when zooming to show about
>>> a quarter of the network.
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Jakob
>>>
>>>
>>> 2016-11-29 20:34 GMT+01:00 Michael Behrisch <
>>> behri...@users.sourceforge.net>:
>>>
 Hi,

 > Are there any suggestions to improve the GUI performance when
 > looking at a whole city?

 you could try to limit the visualization by avoiding to draw junction
 shapes (it is in the junction tab of the visualization settings) but I
 doubt that it helps much. You could also uncheck all boxes in the street
 visualization settings but when looking at the whole city there are no
 details drawn anyway. SUMO GUI i still missing a proper detail reduction
 scheme here, I think this ticket
 http://sumo.dlr.de/trac.wsgi/ticket/2137 is also a result of this.

 > In addition - when I zoom out the vehicles are too small to observe
 > at all. Is there a way to make them larger and observable even when
 > zoomed out?

 You can check the box Draw with constant size when zoomed out in the
 vehicle visualization settings.

 Best regards,
 Michael

 
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>>>
>>
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Re: [sumo-user] Improve SUMO-GUI performance

[Jakob Erdmann]

- What version of SUMO are you using? (I recommend trying the latest
release 0.28.0),
- What operating system are you using?
- GUI problems like the one you describe have been reportedly solved by
updating graphics drivers. Please try
- Slow GUI can be caused by edges with highly detailed geometry (i.e. 1
geometry point per centimeter). This should not happen with a plain OSM
import though.



2016-12-20 14:29 GMT+01:00 Green Mind :

> Hi Jakob,
>
> I've tried a smaller map with only ~3500 edges, and it is still almost
> unusable when zooming out to see the whole network. When I open the map I
> don't see anything - just blank screen. Only after I zoom in a certain
> amount, I start seeing roads.
>
> The slow GUI seems to also affect the speed of the simulation itself -
> i.e., each simulation step seems to take longer time.
>
> Any idea what might cause this?
>
> Thanks
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Jakob Erdmann 
> wrote:
>
>> How many edges are in your network and what percentage of the network are
>> you looking at when the gui starts to feel slow?
>> Is it only slow during simulation or also when you are opening the
>> network without any vehicles?
>>
>> As a reference: When looking at the network of Berlin with ~200k edges it
>> is still usable and there is hardly any delay when zooming to show about a
>> quarter of the network.
>>
>> regards,
>> Jakob
>>
>>
>> 2016-11-29 20:34 GMT+01:00 Michael Behrisch <
>> behri...@users.sourceforge.net>:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> > Are there any suggestions to improve the GUI performance when
>>> > looking at a whole city?
>>>
>>> you could try to limit the visualization by avoiding to draw junction
>>> shapes (it is in the junction tab of the visualization settings) but I
>>> doubt that it helps much. You could also uncheck all boxes in the street
>>> visualization settings but when looking at the whole city there are no
>>> details drawn anyway. SUMO GUI i still missing a proper detail reduction
>>> scheme here, I think this ticket
>>> http://sumo.dlr.de/trac.wsgi/ticket/2137 is also a result of this.
>>>
>>> > In addition - when I zoom out the vehicles are too small to observe
>>> > at all. Is there a way to make them larger and observable even when
>>> > zoomed out?
>>>
>>> You can check the box Draw with constant size when zoomed out in the
>>> vehicle visualization settings.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> 
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>>
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Re: [sumo-user] Improve SUMO-GUI performance

[Green Mind]

Hi Jakob,

I've tried a smaller map with only ~3500 edges, and it is still almost
unusable when zooming out to see the whole network. When I open the map I
don't see anything - just blank screen. Only after I zoom in a certain
amount, I start seeing roads.

The slow GUI seems to also affect the speed of the simulation itself -
i.e., each simulation step seems to take longer time.

Any idea what might cause this?

Thanks

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Jakob Erdmann 
wrote:

> How many edges are in your network and what percentage of the network are
> you looking at when the gui starts to feel slow?
> Is it only slow during simulation or also when you are opening the network
> without any vehicles?
>
> As a reference: When looking at the network of Berlin with ~200k edges it
> is still usable and there is hardly any delay when zooming to show about a
> quarter of the network.
>
> regards,
> Jakob
>
>
> 2016-11-29 20:34 GMT+01:00 Michael Behrisch  net>:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> > Are there any suggestions to improve the GUI performance when
>> > looking at a whole city?
>>
>> you could try to limit the visualization by avoiding to draw junction
>> shapes (it is in the junction tab of the visualization settings) but I
>> doubt that it helps much. You could also uncheck all boxes in the street
>> visualization settings but when looking at the whole city there are no
>> details drawn anyway. SUMO GUI i still missing a proper detail reduction
>> scheme here, I think this ticket
>> http://sumo.dlr.de/trac.wsgi/ticket/2137 is also a result of this.
>>
>> > In addition - when I zoom out the vehicles are too small to observe
>> > at all. Is there a way to make them larger and observable even when
>> > zoomed out?
>>
>> You can check the box Draw with constant size when zoomed out in the
>> vehicle visualization settings.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Michael
>>
>> 
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