Re: 3-D gnomon for Polar Dial

2002-12-23 Thread Frans W. Maes
Hi Mac and all, I am afraid I don't quite understand the question. John would not like analemma shaped hour lines, you wrote. How might figure-8 shaped hour lines be used here?? One can simply incorporate the EoT into the hour lines of a common polar dial as a function of date, running from

Re: 3-D gnomon for Polar Dial

2002-12-23 Thread Mac Oglesby
Hello Frans, and sundial list members -- Thanks for your interest. I apologize for any confusion caused by my use of the phrase for use with straight hour lines. The words were mine, not John Close's, and I guess I was trying to reinforce his desire to have a polar dial which didn't use

Re: 3-D gnomon for Polar Dial

2002-12-23 Thread Dave Bell
P.S. Bill Gottesman has sketched a possible solution and has given permission to share. Contact me OFF LIST if you want a copy of his drawing (16K gif). I would like to see that drawing, Mac! I can imagine how such a gnomon would work and might look, but believe it would need to be split

Re: 3-D gnomon for Polar Dial

2002-12-23 Thread john . davis
Hi Folks, I feel that I should comment on this as it was me that initially told John Close that he couldn't achieve what he wanted in any simple way, when he came for a day's tutorial (he's a relative novice at dialling). The problem is that a polar dial is not equiangular or have equally

Re: 3-D gnomon for Polar Dial

2002-12-23 Thread Mac Oglesby
Hello Friends, With respect, I have to disagree with John Davis. If you rotate a polar dial around its polar axis (or any axis parallel to the Earth's--an edge of the dial plate, for instance) by 15°, each hour line will be one hour off--ahead or behind depending upon which way you turned

Re: 3-D gnomon for Polar Dial

2002-12-23 Thread Dave Bell
On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, Mac Oglesby wrote: With respect, I have to disagree with John Davis. If you rotate a polar dial around its polar axis (or any axis parallel to the Earth's--an edge of the dial plate, for instance) (Which of course, IS rotation about the gnomon axis, PLUS translation in