RE: Nought at noon

2000-07-19 Thread Andrew James
Steve, Bob, and everyone, I do not think I have ever seen 0 on a sundial, nor on a clock. I seem to remember a sundial which had an Arabic 12 with all other numerals Roman - or was it vice versa? - but cannot think where. I would say that in England the simple cross + or cross pattee (more

RE: Nought at noon

2000-07-19 Thread T. M. Taudin-Chabot
I do not think I have ever seen 0 on a sundial, nor on a clock. I seem to remember a sundial which had an Arabic 12 with all other numerals Roman - or was it vice versa? - but cannot think where. a 0 together with roman numerals doesn't sound logic: the romans did not know the number 0 !

RE: Nought at noon

2000-07-19 Thread Roger Bailey
At 10:40 AM 7/19/00 +0100, Andrew James wrote: Steve, Bob, and everyone, I do not think I have ever seen 0 on a sundial, nor on a clock. The dial on my deck rail has a nought for noon. It is a standard garden shop horizontal dial, a cheap imported brass casting given to me years ago

Nought at noon

2000-07-18 Thread Steve Lelievre
I have recently seen a couple of dials which use a nought (a digit zero) in place of XII, whereas the rest of the hour labels are in their usual roman numeral forms. In other words, they run VI, VII...XI, 0, I, II...VI. One dial is from the 1950s and the other from the 1960s. They are both

Re: Nought at noon

2000-07-18 Thread Robert Terwilliger
Hi All, Steve Lelievre wrote: I have recently seen a couple of dials which use a nought (a digit zero) in place of XII,... I've never seen this done on a clock,... I am a clockmaker. I have repaired a lot of clocks and I have never seen it on a clock either. I suggest that the proximity

Re: Nought at noon

2000-07-18 Thread John Davis
--- Dr J R Davis Flowton, UK 52.08N, 1.043E email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Steve Lelievre [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Sundial mailing list sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de Sent: 18 July 2000 15:29 Subject: Nought at noon I have recently seen a couple of dials which use a nought

Re: Nought at noon

2000-07-18 Thread Wm. S. Maddux
Bob, Steve, et. al., I have no knowledge of the origin of the practice of using zero to mark noon, but there is as much logic as for twelve, since it is the beginning, or zero, for P. M. hours, and so can be expected to precede hours 1, 2, etc.. by an hour, especially with the sun's