Re: Gnomon Gap Puzzle

2019-01-03 Thread rodwall1234
correctly. It was close to being a square image. Would a pdf version be better. Thanks, Roderick Wall.  Original message From: Frank King Date: 3/1/19 11:48 pm (GMT+10:00) To: Sundial List Subject: Re: Gnomon Gap Puzzle Dear All, I have a simple rule with my puzzles: wait

Re: Gnomon Gap Puzzle

2019-01-03 Thread Frank King
Dear John, Many thanks for your seal of approval... > Bravo - two quarters of a double horizontal dial! A fair summary, but note that it doesn't suffer from the knife-edge gnomon bug that most double horizontal dials suffer from. Fancy going wrong at noon of all times of day. Grrr! The

Re: Gnomon Gap Puzzle - wonderful

2019-01-03 Thread Frank King
Dear Alastair, Many thanks for your kind words... > Your design is wonderful... I hope you enjoy the book. You ask... > ... have you come across the term 'azimuth > circles', how would you define this term? I have heard this term in several contexts. In an astronomical context, any great

Re: Gnomon Gap Puzzle

2019-01-03 Thread Frank King
Dear All, I have a simple rule with my puzzles: wait for a reply from Geoff Thurston and then reveal all. The time has come! In the recent spate of messages, both Bill Gottesman and Steve Lelievre were very close. Bill is the only person to suggest an azimuthal dial with vertical styles

Re: Gnomon Gap Puzzle

2019-01-03 Thread Geoff Thurston
Happy New Year, Frank, How about a T-shaped dial consisting of a vertical east dial backed by a vertical west dial and sharing a solid sloping roof whose edges act as the gnomons. The hour lines close to noon could be marked as a horizontal dial on the "floor" of the dial. I think that this

Re: Gnomon Gap Puzzle

2019-01-02 Thread Steve Lelievre
Frank, May I have a second try at answering your quiz? I'm still not doing it for a nickel, though. My new suggestion would be much the same set-up as for my first suggestion, but this time I feel sure the dial face can be entirely within the noon gap area (that is, assuming the noon gap is

RE: Gnomon Gap Puzzle

2019-01-02 Thread Schechner, Sara
: Gnomon Gap Puzzle Dear Maciej and Sara, Gosh. Those are really incredible dials. The Nested L-shapes of the chapter rings on the Jacques Le Marie dial are very cleverly set out. I wonder how big a market there was for this kind of dial! Maciej's description of a Nuremberg Diptych - The shadow

Re: Gnomon Gap Puzzle

2019-01-02 Thread Bill Gottesman
Hello Frank, Could the space be a north-south alley, street, or park between two buildings? The vertical sides of the buildings adjoining the space can be seen as two vertical gnomons for an azimuthal dial. You would lay out the morning hours to the west of the eastern building, and the

Re: Gnomon Gap Puzzle

2019-01-02 Thread Frank King
Dear Maciej and Sara, Gosh. Those are really incredible dials. The Nested L-shapes of the chapter rings on the Jacques Le Marie dial are very cleverly set out. I wonder how big a market there was for this kind of dial! Maciej's description of a Nuremberg Diptych - The shadow was cast by the

Re: Gnomon Gap Puzzle

2019-01-01 Thread mlose
@gmail.com; Wysłane: 16:41 Wtorek 2019-01-01 Temat: Re: Gnomon Gap Puzzle > Dear Maciej, John and Steve > > Congratulations on coming up with several > ideas. I should have asked your advice > several months ago! > > Although your ideas seem wildly different, > they all s

RE: Gnomon Gap Puzzle

2019-01-01 Thread Schechner, Sara
Subject: Re: Gnomon Gap Puzzle Dear Maciej, John and Steve Congratulations on coming up with several ideas. I should have asked your advice several months ago! Although your ideas seem wildly different, they all share elements of the actual design which I shall reveal in due course. Maciej

Re: Gnomon Gap Puzzle

2019-01-01 Thread mlose
. I browsed my archives, unfortunately I was unable to find the image. It was a truly ingenous design ! Regards, Maciej Lose Od: "Frank King" Do: ml...@interia.pl; john.f...@keme.co.uk; steve.lelievre.can...@gmail.com; Wysłane: 16:41 Wtorek 2019-01-01 Temat: Re: Gnomon Gap Puzz

Re: Gnomon Gap Puzzle

2019-01-01 Thread Steve Lelievre
Hello again, Frank, A quick postscript to my first answer ... I can also get my 4 sub-dials by using parallelograms arranged in NS planes at the sides of the dial face, and sitting on the horizontal dial surface. The skew of the parallelograms would be such that they provide polar styles, so

Re: Gnomon Gap Puzzle

2019-01-01 Thread Frank King
Dear Maciej, John and Steve Congratulations on coming up with several ideas. I should have asked your advice several months ago! Although your ideas seem wildly different, they all share elements of the actual design which I shall reveal in due course. Maciej: I am most grateful to you for

Re: Gnomon Gap Puzzle

2019-01-01 Thread Steve Lelievre
For Q1, my solution would be a bit like the set up already suggested by Maciej Lose from Hans Troschel. Instead of having two wires in a diptych, I would use a rectangular sheet of material. It would be set up with one pair of opposite edges on an East-West line, and the other pair parallel

Re: Gnomon Gap Puzzle

2019-01-01 Thread John Foad
Dear Frank, For your question 3: Could you be designing a vertical dial for an interior south facing wall with a 'Velux' type window (or any rectangular glassed-in section) in the sloping ceiling above? I would have thought it would work and could be as attractive as you cared to make it!

Re: Gnomon Gap Puzzle

2019-01-01 Thread mlose
Dear Frank, I'm not sure if this follows Your idea, but I think the the answer, by Hans Troschel, is in the collection of History of Science Museum in Oxford. Unfortunately no direct link is possible, so one has to use database search to find it: https://www.hsm.ox.ac.uk/database Diptych