Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-23 Thread rodwall1...@gmail.com
In trig terms, X = a (Cos Lat) squared. Publication as an article? Not if it takes 30 x 1000 words! Regards, Roger Bailey Walking Shadow Designs From: rodwall1...@gmail.com Sent: July 21, 2018 1:59 PM To: Michael Ossipoff; Roger Cc: sundial list Subject: Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

RE: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-22 Thread Roger
= a (Cos Lat) squared. Publication as an article? Not if it takes 30 x 1000 words! Regards, Roger Bailey Walking Shadow Designs From: rodwall1...@gmail.com Sent: July 21, 2018 1:59 PM To: Michael Ossipoff; Roger Cc: sundial list Subject: Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not? Hi Rodger

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-21 Thread rodwall1...@gmail.com
n extracurricular activity. Perhaps that is the value of a > analemmatic sundial installation at a school would be to stimulate interest. > > > > Regards, Roger Bailey > > Walking Shadow Designs > > > > *From: *Jack Aubert > *Sent: *July 17, 2018 6:27 AM >

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-21 Thread Ian Maddocks
docks Chester, UK 53°11'50"N 2°52'41"W From: Roger Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 7:32 PM To: Jack Aubert ; 'Michael Ossipoff' ; 'sundial list' Subject: RE: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not? Hi Jack and Michael, I don’t agree. The concept is very simple. Per

RE: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-19 Thread Jack Aubert
-koeln.de Cc: Jack Aubert Subject: Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not? This reminds of an interview I read somewhere, with a former RAF instructor who taught survival navigation techniques for downed fighter pilots - no GPS or compass, just sun and stars. He said that one

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-19 Thread Steve Lelievre
This reminds of an interview I read somewhere, with a former RAF instructor who taught survival navigation techniques for downed fighter pilots - no GPS or compass, just sun and stars. He said that one of frustrating parts of his job was that with every new class he had to un-teach the idea

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-18 Thread Michael Ossipoff
s are interested in > such an extracurricular activity. Perhaps that is the value of a > analemmatic sundial installation at a school would be to stimulate interest. > > > > Regards, Roger Bailey > > Walking Shadow Designs > > > > *From: *Jack Aubert > *Sent: *J

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-18 Thread rodwall1...@gmail.com
Hi Roger and Mitchael, I'm sure others have thought of and have used these concepts before us. Sundials have been around for a long time. What these concepts achieves are: That all clocks have a energy source to make them work. For sundials it is the rotation of Earth. And that planet Earth

RE: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-18 Thread Jack Aubert
. Jack From: Roger Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 7:32 PM To: Jack Aubert ; 'Michael Ossipoff' ; 'sundial list' Subject: RE: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not? Hi Jack and Michael, I don’t agree. The concept is very simple. Perhaps you have had

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-18 Thread Michael Ossipoff
When I mentioned (at least hypothetically) a mechanical method and an empirical method for constructing a Reclining-Declining Dial, they were intended as ways to assure someone that s/he knows of a way that such a dial can be constructed. (I feel that it's unsatisfying to own, use, or visit a

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-18 Thread Michael Ossipoff
Yes, the central-gnomon Equatorial dials, with their gnomon parallel to the Earth's axis, and their circular measuring-scale parallel to plane of the equator is educational, because its measurement of Solar Time is completely direct. And yes, you're quite right: The construction of the Horizontal

RE: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-17 Thread Roger
Bailey Walking Shadow Designs From: rodwall1...@gmail.com Sent: July 17, 2018 4:14 PM To: Michael Ossipoff; Steve Lelievre Cc: sundial list Subject: Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not? Hi all, The following is what I think is the best way to describe how sundials work to kids or anyone

RE: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-17 Thread Roger
that is the value of a analemmatic sundial installation at a school would be to stimulate interest. Regards, Roger Bailey Walking Shadow Designs From: Jack Aubert Sent: July 17, 2018 6:27 AM To: 'Michael Ossipoff'; 'sundial list' Subject: RE: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not? I very much agree

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-17 Thread rodwall1...@gmail.com
Hi all, The following is what I think is the best way to describe how sundials work to kids or anyone. 1st start with the largest sundial in the world. Planet Earth the Master sundial clock. Stick a vertical stick into the ground at the South pole or North pole. And describe how the shadow

RE: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-17 Thread Astrovisuals
so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of sundial digest..." Today's Topics: 1. RE: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not? (Jack Aubert) 2. Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not? (Michae

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-17 Thread Steve Lelievre
Sure, any type of dial is fine if it works for the situation. And apologies to all for the typos in my last message. I think my PC had auto-obfuscate turned on. Steve On 2018-07-17 11:07 AM, Michael Ossipoff wrote: Insisting on limiting it to central-gnomon Equatorials sounds unfair to

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-17 Thread Michael Ossipoff
st all adults. >> >> >> >> Jack >> >> >> >> *From:* sundial *On Behalf Of *Michael >> Ossipoff >> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 17, 2018 12:29 AM >> *To:* sundial list >> *Subject:* Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not? >

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-17 Thread Michael Ossipoff
Steve-- Alright, acknowledged. But, even so, why not instead have a class design and build a dial whose construction-derivation would be of interest to them. ...or even build, or have it built, for them. ...such as any central-gnomon Equatorial, or any Flat Dial that's Horizontal, Vertical or

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-17 Thread Steve Lelievre
An analemmatic dial is more considered more interesting than other kinds because it is somewhat interactive, but I agree that it is a little harder to understand. To me though, installing a sundial at a school isn't just about, or even primarily about, the teaching of the mechanics of how it

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-17 Thread Michael Ossipoff
Sent:* Tuesday, July 17, 2018 12:29 AM > *To:* sundial list > *Subject:* Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not? > > > > > > To continue something that I started before: > > > > The derivation of the construction of the Analemmatic could be explaine

RE: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-17 Thread Jack Aubert
Of Michael Ossipoff Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 12:29 AM To: sundial list Subject: Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not? To continue something that I started before: The derivation of the construction of the Analemmatic could be explained to anyone, with 3 lesson-sessions, over 3 days

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-16 Thread Michael Ossipoff
To continue something that I started before: The derivation of the construction of the Analemmatic could be explained to anyone, with 3 lesson-sessions, over 3 days. Yes, an Analemmatic Dial could be educational, when it gives people incentive to study, read about or listen to the dial's

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-12 Thread Michael Ossipoff
If I may correct a small error in something that I said: I said: > That's easily remedied by having additional apertures at the 6 am & pm > positions, with a few separate special hour-lines for use with those > aperatures. I'd make those 6-o'clock apertures double, to make them >

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-12 Thread Michael Ossipoff
I've just realized that I mis-spelled "aperture". I don' t know why I added the extra "a". Michael Ossipoff On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 12:26 PM, Michael Ossipoff wrote: > > As Hunt pointed out, there might be many locations where an Anelematic is > the only dial that won't be stolen or

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-12 Thread Michael Ossipoff
As Hunt pointed out, there might be many locations where an Anelematic is the only dial that won't be stolen or vandalized. And I like it. But I'd consider it a last-resort, to be used only when a previous dial has been stolen or vandalized. That's because I prefer sundials whose

RE: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-11 Thread William Irvine
Thanks to the people who responded, either direct to this Mailing List - or had E-mailed to me privately, with their own comments. Based on those replies, I contacted "Sunclocks" to ask why their price was so low (compared with the people acting as Distributors for them) - as well as why they

RE: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-09 Thread fritzstumpges
Bill, In general, there are some people who are able to make a little money making sundials but most would not claim to make a 'living' or anything like that. Have you checked out Helios Sonnenuhren by Carlo Heller? (German) This is his U.S. rep and it is in English so you don't have to

Re: Is this sundial business 'genuine', or not?

2018-07-09 Thread Frank King
Dear Bill, Sunclocks are genuine. Some people are very enthusiastic about them, others are not. You have almost certainly seen a Sunclocks dial without realising it. They have an interesting business model... If you want a sundial you are given several options: 1. Buy a full set of