RE: sundial Digest, Vol 94, Issue 18

2013-10-20 Thread Art Krenzel
Helmut,
 
Valentin has created another variation of the cylindrical sundial.  He 
converted the cylinder to a flat wall with morning hours on one side and 
afternoon hours on the other side.  It looks like a giant capital I with a 
flat web top and bottom.  The hour lines are etched on the vertical member.  
The top flat web creates a shadow along the full length of the vertical web.  
The sundial is adjusted to be perpendicular to the sun at the time of 
reading.   You locate the time at the intersection of the shadow on the proper 
vertical date line.
 
Valentin is such a pleasure to work with.  For instance, he added variations of 
font size to the program so I could laser various sizes of the sundial and 
maintain aspect ratio.  This variation of the vertical cylinder to a flat wall 
seems perfectly made for a laser application.  I love it.

Art Krenzel
 
 

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 Dear Frans,
 here a photo of such a Filterhut dial with vertical slits around the 
 edge. This sundial was found some years ago by Manuel Pizarro Gavilan 
 on a column in the couvent of La Baumette near Angers (France). Time is 
 read where the shadow of such a single stick is shortest i.e. vertically 
 down.
 
 On Valentin Hristov's website you find constructions where this edge 
 outside the cylinder is turned inside (with concetric hole in the circle 
 plane on the top of the cylinder): 
 http://www.mysundial.ca/tsp/deltacad_sundial_macros_vh_cylinder2.html. 
 And in these versions finally one can get  Willy Lender's beautiful sundial.
 
 Best wishes
 Helmut
 
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Re: a unique sundial on a cylindrical column of opal glass

2013-10-20 Thread Roger Bailey
The article Un cadran solaire insolite sur colonne dans l'ancien couvent de 
la Baumette by Manuel Pizarro Gavilán was published in Le Gnomoniste in Dec 
2010 and is available here: 
http://cadrans-solaires.scg.ulaval.ca/v08-08-04/quidnovi/XVII-4-p12-20.pdf


This excellent article was also published in the SAF 'Cadrans Info in 
October 2010. Dials like these are often called top hat or filter sundials 
in English and filterhut in Austrian.


Regards, Roger Bailey

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Dear Frans,
here a photo of such a Filterhut dial with vertical slits around the
edge. This sundial was found some years ago by Manuel Pizarro Gavilan
on a column in the couvent of La Baumette near Angers (France). Time is
read where the shadow of such a single stick is shortest i.e. vertically
down.

On Valentin Hristov's website you find constructions where this edge
outside the cylinder is turned inside (with concetric hole in the circle
plane on the top of the cylinder):
http://www.mysundial.ca/tsp/deltacad_sundial_macros_vh_cylinder2.html.
And in these versions finally one can get  Willy Lender's beautiful 
sundial.


Best wishes
Helmut

Am 16.10.2013 21:09, schrieb Frans W. Maes:

Dear Helmut  all,

You are right, Willy Sullivan's sundial is not a shepherd dial. It is
very similar to a so-called Filterhut dial; I am sure you know the
type. For those who don't: that's understandable, as only a handful of
examples exist. Attached is a picture of a specimen at the abbey of
St. Martin-de-Boscherville (near Rouen in northern France). The time
is read at the highest point of the ring's shadow edge.

According to René Rohr, this type was described already by Athanasius
Kircher in the 17th century. The accuracy is sometines increased by
vertical slits around the edge, which makes it easier to find the
sun's azimuth. Rohr continues to tell that the Arab scientist Abul
Hassan al Marrakushi described already in 1272 a version in which only
a small radial strip of the ring was present. Which exactly matches
Sullivan's dial!

Best regards,
Frans Maes









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