Managing difficult log files

2019-05-16 Thread Dewayne Geraghty
I would appreciate advise as to whether these are acceptable questions for this list? I would like to use the s6-log features for applications that have difficult log management. In this instance, apache. From procstat –f `pgrep httpd` we're advised that each http has write-append to the ErrorLog

Re: interesting claims

2019-05-16 Thread Dewayne Geraghty
Thanks Laurent, the additional insight is appreciated (you should have a skarnet.org/software/ page for "Insights and Philosophy" ;) ) A few years ago I managed a small outsource, the systems were rebooted when UPS batteries were replaced or a disk mirror problem arose. Because we used FreeBSD's j

Re: emergency IPC with SysV message queues

2019-05-16 Thread Oliver Schad
Sorry for my side note: but I have to say, that these discussions are really great! I thought it would be just boring as it started. But from my side I can tell you, that I learn a lot because you talk about reasons to do something or to let something. It's far better than "I believe" and "I like

Re: emergency IPC with SysV message queues

2019-05-16 Thread Laurent Bercot
Please stop breaking threads. This makes conversations needlessly difficult to follow, and clutters up mailboxes. i do that intentionally since i find the opposite easier to follow. that leads often to complaints on other lists aswell. Oh? And the other complaints haven't given you a clue? We

Re: interesting claims

2019-05-16 Thread Jeff
16.05.2019, 10:31, "Laurent Bercot" : >> The Question: As a newbie outsider I wonder, after following the >> discussion of supervision and tasks on stages (1,2,3), that there is a >> restrictive linear progression that prevents reversal. In terms of pid1 >> that I may not totally understand, is the

Re: correct init

2019-05-16 Thread Jeff
> process #1 should not rely on conditions that it has not previously > ascertained to be true (eg by setting something up by itself, so it > exists and is safe to use/rely on it). > sounds self-evident ? sadly many inits do not comply with that > postulation, a well known example that comes immed

correct init

2019-05-16 Thread Jeff
new postulation: process #1 should not rely on conditions that it has not previously ascertained to be true (eg by setting something up by itself, so it exists and is safe to use/rely on it). sounds self-evident ? sadly many inits do not comply with that postulation, a well known example that com

Re: emergency IPC with SysV message queues

2019-05-16 Thread Jeff
11.05.2019, 15:33, "Laurent Bercot" : > Please stop breaking threads. This makes conversations needlessly > difficult to follow, and clutters up mailboxes. i do that intentionally since i find the opposite easier to follow. that leads often to complaints on other lists aswell. > That is obviously

Re: interesting claims

2019-05-16 Thread Laurent Bercot
The Question: As a newbie outsider I wonder, after following the discussion of supervision and tasks on stages (1,2,3), that there is a restrictive linear progression that prevents reversal. In terms of pid1 that I may not totally understand, is there a way that an admin can reduce the system ba