Re: [ale] systemd talk from July has slide deck online now

2015-09-13 Thread Guillermo
2015-09-09 2:04 GMT-03:00 Steve Litt: > > If I want to use s6 as my init, what do I do, just put into my Grub > kernel line init=/usr/bin/s6 or whatever the s6 executable is? If you want to use the s6-linux-init package and minimum customization, in addition to s6 and s6-linux-init, you'll need

Re: [ale] systemd talk from July has slide deck online now

2015-09-13 Thread Colin Booth
On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Guillermo wrote: > > If you don't look too closely, you could also say nosh without the > userspace terminal and login services stuff more or less covers the > same ground as s6, s6-rc and a small subset of execline. > I mean't more in

Re: [ale] systemd talk from July has slide deck online now

2015-09-09 Thread Colin Booth
On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > Is s6-rc something you add to s6, or is it a totally different thing? > One more bit about this. s6-rc sits on top of s6 and emits s6-svc and s6-sudo commands as necessary. For example, a dry run taking down sshd on

RE: [ale] systemd talk from July has slide deck online now

2015-09-09 Thread James Powell
e.org> Cc: supervision@list.skarnet.org<mailto:supervision@list.skarnet.org> Subject: Re: [ale] systemd talk from July has slide deck online now On 09/08/2015 11:44 PM, James Powell wrote: > I have wondered if OpenRC could have scripts that hook into s6 to start > services via s6 and

Re: [ale] systemd talk from July has slide deck online now

2015-09-09 Thread Laurent Bercot
I am unfamiliar with those. Do they all start Linux? My goal was more to show what systemd does different from prior Linux startups for the major distros. I was just made aware of that article: http://blog.darknedgy.net/technology/2015/09/05/0/ It's a pretty comprehensive list of the init

Re: [ale] systemd talk from July has slide deck online now

2015-09-09 Thread Avery Payne
On 9/9/2015 9:57 AM, Laurent Bercot wrote: Quoting the document: "This article is not meant to impart any technical judgments, but to simply document what has been done". I don't think the author of the document is condoning XML configuration any more than you and I are. (Context: VR is also

Re: [ale] systemd talk from July has slide deck online now

2015-09-09 Thread Laurent Bercot
On 09/09/2015 18:45, Steve Litt wrote: Several of those inits required services to be configured in XML. Tell me one more time just so I understand: Why would *anybody* configure their services with XML, thereby requiring the init system to have a built in XML parser? XML parser in PID1, what

Re: [ale] systemd talk from July has slide deck online now

2015-09-09 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 18:03:52 +0200 Laurent Bercot wrote: > >> I am unfamiliar with those. Do they all start Linux? > >> My goal was more to show what systemd does different from prior > >> Linux startups for the major distros. > > I was just made aware of that

Re: [ale] systemd talk from July has slide deck online now

2015-09-08 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 7 Sep 2015 14:59:08 -0400 Jim Kinney wrote: > On Sep 7, 2015 1:43 PM, "Steve Litt" > wrote: > > > On Mon, 07 Sep 2015 11:21:24 -0400 > > Jim Kinney wrote: > > > > > http://ale.org/?p=632 > > > > > > The slides are

RE: [ale] systemd talk from July has slide deck online now

2015-09-08 Thread James Powell
.skarnet.org<mailto:supervision@list.skarnet.org> Subject: Re: [ale] systemd talk from July has slide deck online now > Hi Jim, > > Here are some of the many good inits: > > * runit: Serves as both PID1 and typical daemontools-style service > manager. > Runit is a pid1 init, whi

Re: [ale] systemd talk from July has slide deck online now

2015-09-08 Thread post-sysv
On 09/08/2015 11:44 PM, James Powell wrote: I have wondered if OpenRC could have scripts that hook into s6 to start services via s6 and run in supervision mode while having OpenRC manage order of process startup and sysvinit handles the remainder of init functionality. In a way you combine

Re: [ale] systemd talk from July has slide deck online now

2015-09-08 Thread Colin Booth
On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > Thanks Colin, > > I used Suckless-Init as PID1 and had Suckless-Init pass the baton to > s6, using LittKit to enable service startup ordering in s6 and > intermixing oneshots and longruns in s6. > > If I want to use