Re: interesting claims

2019-05-19 Thread Guillermo
El dom., 19 may. 2019 a las 8:24, fungal-net escribió: > > [...] > This is Adélie adelielinux.org > installation on HD. Although it is confusing to me how they set this up > still, after months of following its development (beta3), there is > sysvinit on the first steps of booting then OpenRC

Re: interesting claims

2019-05-19 Thread fungal-net
Guillermo: >> But although I got curious what "kill -9 -1" would do to different >> systems I don't see the usefulness of this. > > Since you actually went ahead and did it, and reported the results, > for me it was interesting to see if they matched what theory says that > would happen. They did

Re: interesting claims

2019-05-18 Thread fungal-net
The tests I did were on live images run as vm-s Jeff: > 18.05.2019, 00:58, "Guillermo" : >>>  OpenRC: Nice, >>>    init >>> |_ zsh >>>    when I exited the shell there was nothing but a dead cursor on my screen > > in this case the shell is not signaled since "-1" does not signal the sending

Re: interesting claims

2019-05-17 Thread Jeff
18.05.2019, 00:58, "Guillermo" : >>  OpenRC: Nice, >>    init >> |_ zsh >>    when I exited the shell there was nothing but a dead cursor on my screen in this case the shell is not signaled since "-1" does not signal the sending process. > May I ask what was this setup like? You made a

Re: interesting claims

2019-05-17 Thread Guillermo
Hi, El vie., 17 may. 2019 a las 8:22, fungal-net escribió: > > OpenRC: Nice, > init >|_ zsh > when I exited the shell there was nothing but a dead cursor on my screen May I ask what was this setup like? You made a different entry for sysvinit, presumably with the customary getty

Re: interesting claims

2019-05-15 Thread Oliver Schad
On Wed, 15 May 2019 13:22:48 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > The preceding's true for you, but not for everyone. Some > people, like myself, are perfectly happy with a 95% reliable system. I > reboot once every 2 to 4 weeks to get rid of accumulated state, or as > a troubleshooting diagnostic test. I

Re: interesting claims

2019-05-15 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 01 May 2019 18:13:53 + "Laurent Bercot" wrote: > >So Laurent's words from http://skarnet.org/software/s6/ were just > >part of a very minor family quarrel, not a big deal, and nothing to > >get worked up over. > > This very minor family quarrel is the whole difference between >

Re: interesting claims

2019-05-01 Thread Laurent Bercot
So Laurent's words from http://skarnet.org/software/s6/ were just part of a very minor family quarrel, not a big deal, and nothing to get worked up over. This very minor family quarrel is the whole difference between having and not having a 100% reliable system, which is the whole point of

Re: interesting claims

2019-04-30 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Jeff: where can i learn how a "correct" init has to operate ? See https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/197472/5132 for starters.

Re: interesting claims

2019-04-30 Thread Laurent Bercot
"suckless init is incorrect, because it has no supervision capabilities, and thus, killing all processes but init can brick the machine." a rather bold claim IMO ! where was the "correct" init behaviour specified ? where can i learn how a "correct" init has to operate ? For instance:

Re: interesting claims

2019-04-29 Thread Guillermo
El lun., 29 abr. 2019 a las 16:46, Jeff escribió: > > "suckless init is incorrect, because it has no supervision capabilities, > and thus, killing all processes but init can brick the machine." > > a rather bold claim IMO ! > where was the "correct" init behaviour specified ? > where can i learn

interesting claims

2019-04-29 Thread Jeff
i came across some interesting claims recently. on http://skarnet.org/software/s6/ it reads "suckless init is incorrect, because it has no supervision capabilities, and thus, killing all processes but init can brick the machine." a rather bold claim IMO ! where was the "correct&