Re: Could s6-svscan ignore non-servicedir folders?

2015-01-21 Thread Laurent Bercot
On 21/01/2015 18:24, Olivier Brunel wrote: I'll have to setup some scripts for different init stages, using s6-svscan as stage 2, as you've described elsewhere. But I also want to have a system to start (and stop) services in order. I see this whole idea of order/dependency is something that is

Re: Could s6-scscan ignore non-servicedir folders?

2015-01-21 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 18:24:58 +0100 Olivier Brunel j...@jjacky.com wrote: Hi Laurent, So you mentioned breaking compatibility recently, and I figure that might be a good time for me to mention something. I'd like to set up my system around s6, and have been working on this lately. I'll

Re: Could s6-scscan ignore non-servicedir folders?

2015-01-21 Thread Olivier Brunel
On 01/21/15 19:03, Steve Litt wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2015 18:24:58 +0100 Olivier Brunel j...@jjacky.com wrote: Hi Laurent, So you mentioned breaking compatibility recently, and I figure that might be a good time for me to mention something. I'd like to set up my system around s6, and have

Re: [PATCH 0/4] Add info on why process is down to statusfile

2015-01-21 Thread Olivier Brunel
On 01/21/15 00:27, Laurent Bercot wrote: On 21/01/2015 00:20, Olivier Brunel wrote: Cool; I see you've also added a tainstamp into the ready file, that's good but you forgot to update the doc of s6-notifywhenup as well, which still talks of empty file. Fixed in current git. So in the doc

Re: Could s6-svscan ignore non-servicedir folders?

2015-01-21 Thread Laurent Bercot
On 21/01/2015 21:47, Olivier Brunel wrote: The thing is, that you've referred to services oneshots, whereas I would refer to longrun services oneshot services resp., i.e. I see those as two types of services. They are both services from a system management, higher-level, point of view. From

Re: Could s6-scscan ignore non-servicedir folders?

2015-01-21 Thread Avery Payne
On 1/21/2015 7:19 PM, post-sysv wrote: I'm not sure what effective and worthwhile ways there are to express service *relationships*, however, or what that would exactly entail. I think service conflicts and service bindings might be flimsy to express without a formal system, though I don't

Re: Could s6-scscan ignore non-servicedir folders?

2015-01-21 Thread post-sysv
On 01/21/2015 06:09 PM, Wayne Marshall wrote: 4) in general, folks here are letting their panties get far too twisted with the dependency problem. Actual material dependencies are relatively few and can be easily (and best) accomodated directly in the runscript of the dependent service. See