Re: where is the right place to run s6-rc from ?

2019-05-19 Thread Laurent Bercot
but when using such a catch-all logger to log s6-svscan's own output there is no need for the "rc" service to have its own logger since everything it outputs goes into this catch-all logger. That's the end goal. That's what s6-linux-init-1.0.0.0 does. What you call the "rc" service is named "run

Re: killall test run

2019-05-19 Thread Laurent Bercot
That seems to be the route that Adélie has taken. With an execline script, /lib/s6/s6-svscanboot, configured in an /etc/inittab 'respawn' entry. This results in a supervised s6-svscan (by sysvinit), and a supervised catch-all logger. Yes. I am also currently working on integrating s6-linux-init

where is the right place to run s6-rc from ?

2019-05-19 Thread Jeff
i wonder whether s6-rc (or any other service manager or startup script) should be started from within the supervision tree directly as service (dir) in the scandir ? let us assume we created a service dir "rc" or so in the otherwise unpopulated scandir (except required loggers). it starts s6-rc

Re: killall test run

2019-05-19 Thread Guillermo
El dom., 19 may. 2019 a las 9:57, Jeff escribió: > > OpenRC is known to work with s6-svscan (this is done via the > /libexec/rc/sh/s6.sh shell script). That is part of OpenRC's s6 integration feature, and, although on the surface it looks like a nice thing to have, the implementation of it launche

Re: interesting claims

2019-05-19 Thread Guillermo
El dom., 19 may. 2019 a las 8:24, fungal-net escribió: > > [...] > This is Adélie adelielinux.org > installation on HD. Although it is confusing to me how they set this up > still, after months of following its development (beta3), there is > sysvinit on the first steps of booting then OpenRC take

Re: emergency IPC with SysV message queues

2019-05-19 Thread Jeff
> What details need to be conveyed other than "stand up", "sit down", > and "roll over" (boot, sigpwr, sigint)? depends on what you plan to do. for a minimal init handling SIGCHLD (that is an interesting point indeed. is it really necessary ? i still have to find out. would be nice if one could

Fwd: emergency IPC with SysV message queues

2019-05-19 Thread Cameron Nemo
On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 10:54 AM Jeff wrote: > [...] > On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 09:25:09PM +, Laurent Bercot wrote: > > [...] > > Okay, so your IPC mechanism isn't just message queues, it's a mix > > of two different channels: message queues *plus* signals. > > well, no. the mechanism is SysV m

Re: emergency IPC with SysV message queues

2019-05-19 Thread Bob
BTW: i assume runit-init was introduced when its author wanted go get rid of SysV init without changing runsvdir while s6-svscan's signal handling functionality was motivated by the same desire and previous hacks that involved running svscan directly as process #1. this explains their authors'

Re: emergency IPC with SysV message queues

2019-05-19 Thread Jeff
On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 09:25:09PM +, Laurent Bercot wrote: > Oh? And the other complaints haven't given you a clue? > We are a friendly community, and that includes choosing to follow > widely adopted threading conventions in order to make your readers > comfortable, instead of breaking them

Re: killall test run

2019-05-19 Thread Colin Booth
On Sun, May 19, 2019 at 02:57:14PM +0200, Jeff wrote: > ... a bunch of stuff ... Please stop breaking threads. Or if you must break threads include a (was: blah) in the Subject: to help people's mail readers out. -- Colin Booth

killall test run

2019-05-19 Thread Jeff
19.05.2019, 13:24, "fungal-net" : > I am glad some of you can tell more than I can about this, and since you > did I tried my weirdest of setups. This is Adélie adelielinux.org > installation on HD. Although it is confusing to me how they set this up > still, after months of following its developme

Re: interesting claims

2019-05-19 Thread fungal-net
Guillermo: >> But although I got curious what "kill -9 -1" would do to different >> systems I don't see the usefulness of this. > > Since you actually went ahead and did it, and reported the results, > for me it was interesting to see if they matched what theory says that > would happen. They did