Re: Can s6 be enough?: was s6-ps

2019-01-08 Thread Laurent Bercot
When Debian acquires a properly working s6-rc package, the answer to my question degenerates to "why not?" But for now, for the Debian person who only installs via package, s6-rc is out of the question, so my question was, isn't s6 itself good enough? Then maybe you should ask Debian instead,

Re: Can s6 be enough?: was s6-ps

2019-01-06 Thread Brett Neumeier
On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 2:30 PM Steve Litt wrote: > So what do you all think? Is s6 a useful init system without s6-rc? > My 0.02 USD -- based on my experience of setting up a simple GNU/Linux distribution from the ground up using s6, s6-rc, and s6-linux-init... - s6-rc provides useful

Re: Can s6 be enough?: was s6-ps

2019-01-05 Thread Laurent Bercot
Eliminate dependency on udevd from oneshot startup scripts. One example among others: Kernel events are used to automatically load dynamic kernel modules. Say you need to mount a filesystem of a type that's not known in your core kernel, but you have a module for that. Either you manually

Re: Can s6 be enough?: was s6-ps

2019-01-05 Thread Laurent Bercot
Everybody appreciates the preceding two features, but personally, I don't think they're absolutely necessary. Runit has neither, yet it works just fine for most things. It really depends on what "most things" are. Small, server-only appliances? sure. Distributions where you can start all the

Can s6 be enough?: was s6-ps

2019-01-05 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 10:46:29 + Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > s6 and s6-rc are actually ports/packages in FreeBSD and s6 is a > package in Debian. Alas, the Debian world has not yet caught up with > the other toolsets, and the third-party Debian packaging for > s6-linux-utils and the