Re: s6 as a systemd alternative

2017-06-28 Thread Guillermo
Hello, 2017-06-26 12:05 GMT-03:00 Istvan Szukacs: > > [...] I do not want > logging, ntp and all the other crap that got sucked into it. I understand > that service files are much better that shell scripts and this is a good > argument but it does not justify the idiocracy that systemd became in

Re: s6 as a systemd alternative

2017-06-28 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 22:31:12 -0300 Guillermo wrote: > 2017-06-28 14:40 GMT-03:00 Steve Litt: > > > > On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 14:53:50 + "Laurent Bercot" wrote: > >> > >> The problem with the runit model is that it is pure supervision - > >> it does not provide

Re: s6 as a systemd alternative

2017-06-28 Thread Guillermo
2017-06-28 14:40 GMT-03:00 Steve Litt: > > On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 14:53:50 + "Laurent Bercot" wrote: >> >> The problem with the runit model is that it is pure supervision - >> it does not provide service management. You have to run all your >> oneshots _before_ you can start longruns. > > Not

Re: s6 as a systemd alternative

2017-06-28 Thread Alex Efros
Hi! On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 01:40:18PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > The truth of the preceding statement depends entirely on your > priorities. If you prioritize simplicity over software orthodoxy, built > in process ordering, and a maximally recoverable boot instance, you'll > prefer runit. That's

Re: Problems with Step 4

2017-06-28 Thread Guillermo
Hi, 2017-06-27 16:51 GMT-03:00 Daniel GSJ: > > Once stage 2 is reached, the computer hangs in the same way than when > executing *agetty* in an active console tty, and doesn't login neither. > > My o.s. is build with Linux-from-scratch, and is running SystemV, so it is > a pretty simple system. >

Re: s6 as a systemd alternative

2017-06-28 Thread Luis Ressel
On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 12:44:28 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > 2) Install s6, but run it strictly as a process supervisor You'd quickly run into dependency problems this way, though. There's a reason why we have service managers such as s6-rc and anopa. s6 is powerful on is

Re: s6 as a systemd alternative

2017-06-28 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 26 Jun 2017 18:17:29 +0300 Jean Louis wrote: > I am user of s6 for reason of simplicity and to avoid trouble of > systemd. > > While not being developer, maybe it could be possible to have s6 run > systemd as a service Euuu! > and systemd to run s6 as a