[freenet-support] Build 554: Server sends no data on requests to port 8888

2003-02-06 Thread Allan Beaufour Larsen
I've just upgraded to build 554, and now I get no data when trying to
browse localhost:. It worked fine in 552. Any explanation?

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RE: [freenet-support] Build 659 (unstable)

2003-02-06 Thread Niklas Bergh
659 would seem to have some problems with announcing. One of the nodes I
upgraded yesterday hasn't done a single usefult thing since...


Feb 4, 2003 5:39:20 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
QThread-4): Executing Checkpoint: Native Filesystem Directory checkpoint
Feb 4, 2003 5:39:21 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
QThread-4): Executing Checkpoint: Autodetection of IP addresses
Feb 4, 2003 5:39:31 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
QThread-4): Executing Checkpoint: Autodetection of IP addresses
Feb 4, 2003 5:39:31 PM (freenet.node.states.announcing.SendAnnouncement,
QThread-6): Sending NodeAnnouncement failed:
freenet.ConnectFailedException: Against peer DSA(eda1 570b d062 a746
1a54  e1cf 2800 9cf4 250f 5328) @ 193.11.247.167:61608 - Cannot connect
to: 193.11.247.167:61608 (terminal)
Feb 4, 2003 5:39:32 PM (freenet.node.states.announcing.SendAnnouncement,
QThread-6): Sending NodeAnnouncement failed:
freenet.ConnectFailedException: Against peer DSA(e3d9 6da2 c70f 7b75
0ad3  f077 236f bae0 6ed7 7e01) @ 217.215.123.28:19790 - Cannot connect
to: 217.215.123.28:19790 (terminal)
Feb 4, 2003 5:39:32 PM (freenet.OpenConnectionManager, QThread-5):
Established connection: tcpconnection: 134.147.115.87:26277
Feb 4, 2003 5:39:34 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
QThread-4): Executing Checkpoint: Native Filesystem Directory checkpoint
Feb 4, 2003 5:39:39 PM (freenet.interfaces.PublicInterface, Interface #
tcp/14166): Accepted connection: tcpconnection: 160.26.102.198:4620
Feb 4, 2003 5:39:40 PM (freenet.interfaces.FreenetConnectionRunner,
QThread-4): Inbound connection failed: java.io.EOFException
Feb 4, 2003 5:39:41 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
QThread-4): Executing Checkpoint: Autodetection of IP addresses
Feb 4, 2003 5:39:44 PM (freenet.interfaces.PublicInterface, Interface #
tcp/14166): Accepted connection: tcpconnection: 217.84.0.234:4103
Feb 4, 2003 5:39:48 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
QThread-10): Executing Checkpoint: Native Filesystem Directory
checkpoint
Feb 4, 2003 5:39:51 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
QThread-10): Executing Checkpoint: Autodetection of IP addresses
Feb 4, 2003 5:40:00 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
QThread-10): Executing Checkpoint: Polling and aggregation of
diagnostics.
Feb 4, 2003 5:40:01 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
QThread-10): Executing Checkpoint: Autodetection of IP addresses
Feb 4, 2003 5:40:03 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
QThread-10): Executing Checkpoint: Native Filesystem Directory
checkpoint
Feb 4, 2003 5:40:03 PM (freenet.node.states.announcing.SendAnnouncement,
QThread-6): Sending NodeAnnouncement failed:
freenet.ConnectFailedException: Against peer DSA(50a8 f534 ea52 f574
455c  00d9 5f7e e11d 2eb4 4570) @ 134.147.115.87:26277 - authentication
timed out (terminal)
Feb 4, 2003 5:40:03 PM (freenet.node.states.announcing.Announcing,
QThread-6): Announcement failed to eda1 570b d062 a746 1a54  e1cf 2800
9cf4 250f 5328 at depth  15.
Feb 4, 2003 5:40:03 PM (freenet.node.states.announcing.Announcing,
QThread-6): Announcement failed to e3d9 6da2 c70f 7b75 0ad3  f077 236f
bae0 6ed7 7e01 at depth  15.
Feb 4, 2003 5:40:03 PM (freenet.node.states.announcing.Announcing,
QThread-6): Announcement failed to 50a8 f534 ea52 f574 455c  00d9 5f7e
e11d 2eb4 4570 at depth  15.
Feb 4, 2003 5:40:04 PM (freenet.interfaces.FreenetConnectionRunner,
QThread-4): Inbound connection failed: java.io.EOFException
Feb 4, 2003 5:40:05 PM (freenet.interfaces.PublicInterface, Interface #
tcp/14166): Accepted connection: tcpconnection: 129.116.44.183:33608
Feb 4, 2003 5:40:11 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
QThread-10): Executing Checkpoint: Autodetection of IP addresses
Feb 4, 2003 5:40:14 PM (freenet.interfaces.PublicInterface, Interface #
tcp/14166): Accepted connection: tcpconnection: 217.84.0.234:4141
Feb 4, 2003 5:40:17 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
QThread-6): Executing Checkpoint: Native Filesystem Directory checkpoint
Feb 4, 2003 5:40:21 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
QThread-6): Executing Checkpoint: Autodetection of IP addresses
Feb 4, 2003 5:40:31 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
QThread-6): Executing Checkpoint: Autodetection of IP addresses
Feb 4, 2003 5:40:31 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
QThread-6): Executing Checkpoint: Native Filesystem Directory checkpoint
Feb 4, 2003 5:40:34 PM (freenet.interfaces.FreenetConnectionRunner,
QThread-10): Inbound connection failed: java.io.EOFException
Feb 4, 2003 5:40:35 PM (freenet.interfaces.FreenetConnectionRunner,
QThread-4): Inbound connection failed: java.net.SocketTimeoutException:
Read timed out
Feb 4, 2003 5:40:40 PM (freenet.interfaces.PublicInterface, Interface #
tcp/14166): Accepted connection: tcpconnection: 217.84.0.234:4166
Feb 4, 2003 5:40:41 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,

Re: [freenet-support] Build 554: Server sends no data on requeststo port 8888

2003-02-06 Thread Tld
Allan Beaufour Larsen wrote:

I've just upgraded to build 554, and now I get no data when trying to
browse localhost:. It worked fine in 552. Any explanation?


Stupid Q: Have you restarted the node (shut down and re-launched)? I get 
the very same error when I haven't restarted the node.

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Re: [freenet-support] Build 554: Server sends no data on requeststo port 8888

2003-02-06 Thread Tld
Tld wrote:

Allan Beaufour Larsen wrote:

I've just upgraded to build 554, and now I get no data when trying to
browse localhost:. It worked fine in 552. Any explanation?

Stupid Q: Have you restarted the node (shut down and re-launched)? I get 
the very same error when I haven't restarted the node.
Okay, I get the same error with the same build. I guess it's the build 
that's broken :-|

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Re: Freenet: Kaffe (free software) compatibility: Was: Re: [freenet-support] freesite

2003-02-06 Thread marcoc1
At 19.34 05/02/03 -0500, you wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 Anyway, till Freenet remains in java, dropping the Kaffe
  compatibility IMHO is a fundamental mistake, both from
  the point of view of free software and from the security.

What exactly do you mean by Kaffe compatibility?  If Matthew  co.
write code which conforms to the specifications of the Java language,
but it crashes Kaffe, then clearly this is a bug in Kaffe.  Attempting
to find workarounds which avoid Kaffe bugs might be helpful for you
and me in the short term, but it's a fundamental waste of time for
the project in the long term, if efforts could instead be focused
on improving Freenet itself.

This is not so simple; version specification does matter.
Kaffe implement 1.0 java spec with some 1.1 features.

So the request maintain Kaffe compatibility can be
 expanded in use java spec 1.0 with only 1.1 extension
 Kaffe supports.

Oskar   please  Help me .

As for the license issue that you mentioned  The GPL says:

  Activities other than copying, distribution and modification are not
  covered by this License; they are outside its scope.

Can Freenet be copied?  Yes.
Can Freenet be distributed?  Yes.
Can Freenet be modified?  I believe so.

Then, the GPL goes on to cover the detailed conditions which apply
to these three fundamental activities.

  1. You may copy and distribute verbatim copies of the Program's
  source code [...]

No problem here.

  2. You may modify your copy or copies of the Program or any portion
  of it, thus forming a work based on the Program, and copy and
  distribute such modifications [...] provided [...]:

a) [statement that you changed the files, and when]
b) [all third parties are licensed to use it at no charge]
c) [must print disclaimer of warranty if it's interactive]

Again, no problem here, except possibly 2c, but that only applies
to freenet.client.cli.* which most people don't use anyway.  And it's
trivial to fix if anyone actually cares.

  3. You may copy and distribute the Program (or a work based on it,
  under Section 2) in object code or executable form [...] provided
  that you also do one of the following:

a) [provide source code]
b) [offer to provide source code at minimal cost]
c) [pass along someone else's offer to provide source code]

Now here's the important part:

  The source code for a work means the preferred form of the work for
  making modifications to it.  For an executable work, complete source
  code means all the source code for all modules it contains, plus any
  associated interface definition files, plus the scripts used to
  control compilation and installation of the executable.  However, as a
  special exception, the source code distributed need not include
  anything that is normally distributed (in either source or binary
  form) with the major components (compiler, kernel, and so on) of the
  operating system on which the executable runs, unless that component
  itself accompanies the executable.

Whenever I see a discussion of the GPL, this paragraph is the one that
usually causes the most trouble.  In the context of placing Freenet
under the GPL, however, it *does not matter whether Freenet can be
run on a free Java virtual machine*, because the GPL does not concern
itself with the use of the program -- only with copying, distributing
and modifying the program.

The real issue is whether Freenet can be *developed* with free tools.
The answer to this, IMHO, can take a couple different forms:

 1) If Sun's Java Software Development Kit is considered the operating
system on which the executable runs, then the non-free javac
(compiler) can be considered a normally distributed major component
of that operating system.  This is an open question.

 2) If Freenet can be developed entirely with alternative tools, which
could (at least in theory) be distributed along with Freenet, then
this paragraph is also satisfied.  I compile Freenet using jikes
and ant.  Jikes is in Debian's main repository, meaning it's
Free Software according to Debian's guidelines.  Ant, however, is
in the contrib section, which is a trickier matter.  Software
in contrib is free, but depends on something which isn't.  I don't
feel like tracking down all of ant's dependencies and license
clauses at the moment.

I believe (but I may be mistaken) that Freenet can also be developed
without using ant.  Jikes and make might be sufficient.  If that's
the case, then everything should be fine -- just include a written
offer to provide jikes (since make is clearly a normal component
of every Unix-like system).  I can't foresee anyone actually taking
you up on the offer, when they could download jikes directly from
IBM far more quickly -- but even if they did, sending them a copy
of jikes should't drain the Freenet treasury too greatly.  (You
can always request a few 

Re: [freenet-support] Build 554: Server sends no data on requeststo port 8888

2003-02-06 Thread Allan Beaufour Larsen
tor, 2003-02-06 kl. 11:28 skrev Tld:
 Tld wrote:
  Allan Beaufour Larsen wrote:
  I've just upgraded to build 554, and now I get no data when trying to
  browse localhost:. It worked fine in 552. Any explanation?
  Stupid Q: Have you restarted the node (shut down and re-launched)? I get 
  the very same error when I haven't restarted the node.
 Okay, I get the same error with the same build. I guess it's the build 
 that's broken :-|

Okay, then it's not just me then. Happy to hear that.

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Re: [freenet-support] Re: [Freenet-list] Freenet: Kaffe (free software) compatibility: Was: R freesite

2003-02-06 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 10:26:35PM -0800, AARG!Anonymous wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] scriveva:
 
   is happy to run on build 552; it is slow because run on a
slow system; the memory profile and resource use of kaffe
is far better respect sun jre.
   Take care of this compatibility; IMHO is more important
then that the mean Freenet developer think.
  
  It crashes in minutes on my machine. The developers have been somewhat
  nonresponsive, the bugs seem to be deep magick and the Project Leaders
  have determined that we don't need to spend money making Kaffe work with
  Freenet.
  
  This statement is very important; IMHO the Freenet Project 
   need an explicit position on that question.
  
  Project Leaders, can we hear you ?
  
  Releasing the main code under GPL is ineffective, if the
   .jar need proprietary software; in my understanding
   the use of the GPL licence is incorrect; I think in
   this case LGPL is the right type of licence.
  
  Anyway, till Freenet remains in java, dropping the Kaffe
   compatibility IMHO is a fundamental mistake, both from
   the point of view of free software and from the security.
  
  The only other way to solve this problem is IMU, to 
   release a C (or other freely compilable/runnable language)
   version
 
 Totally agree with Marco: this shows my old sensation, Freenet is a good
 project but not its developer group :-(
Yeah yeah whatever. We can release a C version, but that means no new
features, no significant bugfixes and no speed improvements for a year.
And we need you to fund me to the tune of $1,250/month for all that
time. And finally it would be much easier to go to C++ and it would run
on almost as many platforms. A year is probably an underestimate for C,
since it'd have to be pretty much a complete reimplementation.

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Re: [freenet-support] Build 659 (unstable)

2003-02-06 Thread Matthew Toseland
Are you sure you aren't using a nonstandard JVM? The IBM JVM has been
known to have serious problems, as has Kaffe, and old versions of the
Sun one sometimes have nasty bugs..

On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 10:26:25AM +0100, Niklas Bergh wrote:
 659 would seem to have some problems with announcing. One of the nodes I
 upgraded yesterday hasn't done a single usefult thing since...
 
 
 Feb 4, 2003 5:39:20 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
 QThread-4): Executing Checkpoint: Native Filesystem Directory checkpoint
 Feb 4, 2003 5:39:21 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
 QThread-4): Executing Checkpoint: Autodetection of IP addresses
 Feb 4, 2003 5:39:31 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
 QThread-4): Executing Checkpoint: Autodetection of IP addresses
 Feb 4, 2003 5:39:31 PM (freenet.node.states.announcing.SendAnnouncement,
 QThread-6): Sending NodeAnnouncement failed:
 freenet.ConnectFailedException: Against peer DSA(eda1 570b d062 a746
 1a54  e1cf 2800 9cf4 250f 5328) @ 193.11.247.167:61608 - Cannot connect
 to: 193.11.247.167:61608 (terminal)
 Feb 4, 2003 5:39:32 PM (freenet.node.states.announcing.SendAnnouncement,
 QThread-6): Sending NodeAnnouncement failed:
 freenet.ConnectFailedException: Against peer DSA(e3d9 6da2 c70f 7b75
 0ad3  f077 236f bae0 6ed7 7e01) @ 217.215.123.28:19790 - Cannot connect
 to: 217.215.123.28:19790 (terminal)
 Feb 4, 2003 5:39:32 PM (freenet.OpenConnectionManager, QThread-5):
 Established connection: tcpconnection: 134.147.115.87:26277
 Feb 4, 2003 5:39:34 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
 QThread-4): Executing Checkpoint: Native Filesystem Directory checkpoint
 Feb 4, 2003 5:39:39 PM (freenet.interfaces.PublicInterface, Interface #
 tcp/14166): Accepted connection: tcpconnection: 160.26.102.198:4620
 Feb 4, 2003 5:39:40 PM (freenet.interfaces.FreenetConnectionRunner,
 QThread-4): Inbound connection failed: java.io.EOFException
 Feb 4, 2003 5:39:41 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
 QThread-4): Executing Checkpoint: Autodetection of IP addresses
 Feb 4, 2003 5:39:44 PM (freenet.interfaces.PublicInterface, Interface #
 tcp/14166): Accepted connection: tcpconnection: 217.84.0.234:4103
 Feb 4, 2003 5:39:48 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
 QThread-10): Executing Checkpoint: Native Filesystem Directory
 checkpoint
 Feb 4, 2003 5:39:51 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
 QThread-10): Executing Checkpoint: Autodetection of IP addresses
 Feb 4, 2003 5:40:00 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
 QThread-10): Executing Checkpoint: Polling and aggregation of
 diagnostics.
 Feb 4, 2003 5:40:01 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
 QThread-10): Executing Checkpoint: Autodetection of IP addresses
 Feb 4, 2003 5:40:03 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
 QThread-10): Executing Checkpoint: Native Filesystem Directory
 checkpoint
 Feb 4, 2003 5:40:03 PM (freenet.node.states.announcing.SendAnnouncement,
 QThread-6): Sending NodeAnnouncement failed:
 freenet.ConnectFailedException: Against peer DSA(50a8 f534 ea52 f574
 455c  00d9 5f7e e11d 2eb4 4570) @ 134.147.115.87:26277 - authentication
 timed out (terminal)
 Feb 4, 2003 5:40:03 PM (freenet.node.states.announcing.Announcing,
 QThread-6): Announcement failed to eda1 570b d062 a746 1a54  e1cf 2800
 9cf4 250f 5328 at depth  15.
 Feb 4, 2003 5:40:03 PM (freenet.node.states.announcing.Announcing,
 QThread-6): Announcement failed to e3d9 6da2 c70f 7b75 0ad3  f077 236f
 bae0 6ed7 7e01 at depth  15.
 Feb 4, 2003 5:40:03 PM (freenet.node.states.announcing.Announcing,
 QThread-6): Announcement failed to 50a8 f534 ea52 f574 455c  00d9 5f7e
 e11d 2eb4 4570 at depth  15.
 Feb 4, 2003 5:40:04 PM (freenet.interfaces.FreenetConnectionRunner,
 QThread-4): Inbound connection failed: java.io.EOFException
 Feb 4, 2003 5:40:05 PM (freenet.interfaces.PublicInterface, Interface #
 tcp/14166): Accepted connection: tcpconnection: 129.116.44.183:33608
 Feb 4, 2003 5:40:11 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
 QThread-10): Executing Checkpoint: Autodetection of IP addresses
 Feb 4, 2003 5:40:14 PM (freenet.interfaces.PublicInterface, Interface #
 tcp/14166): Accepted connection: tcpconnection: 217.84.0.234:4141
 Feb 4, 2003 5:40:17 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
 QThread-6): Executing Checkpoint: Native Filesystem Directory checkpoint
 Feb 4, 2003 5:40:21 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
 QThread-6): Executing Checkpoint: Autodetection of IP addresses
 Feb 4, 2003 5:40:31 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
 QThread-6): Executing Checkpoint: Autodetection of IP addresses
 Feb 4, 2003 5:40:31 PM (freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint,
 QThread-6): Executing Checkpoint: Native Filesystem Directory checkpoint
 Feb 4, 2003 5:40:34 PM (freenet.interfaces.FreenetConnectionRunner,
 QThread-10): Inbound connection failed: java.io.EOFException
 Feb 4, 2003 5:40:35 PM 

Re: [freenet-support] Build 554: Server sends no data on requests to port 8888

2003-02-06 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 10:23:54AM +0100, Allan Beaufour Larsen wrote:
 I've just upgraded to build 554, and now I get no data when trying to
 browse localhost:. It worked fine in 552. Any explanation?
Yes. The only reason it worked before was a bug. You have
mainport.allowedHosts=192.168.1.0/24
or something like that in your config.
You need
mainport.allowedHosts=127.0.0.0/8,192.168.1.0/24

 
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Re: [freenet-support] Build 554: Server sends no data on requests to port 8888

2003-02-06 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 11:28:14AM +0100, Tld wrote:
 Tld wrote:
 Allan Beaufour Larsen wrote:
 I've just upgraded to build 554, and now I get no data when trying to
 browse localhost:. It worked fine in 552. Any explanation?
 Stupid Q: Have you restarted the node (shut down and re-launched)? I get 
 the very same error when I haven't restarted the node.
 Okay, I get the same error with the same build. I guess it's the build 
 that's broken :-|
No, it's your config file that is broken (probably :)). See previous
mail.
 
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Re: [freenet-support] Build 554: Server sends no data on requeststo port 8888

2003-02-06 Thread Allan Beaufour Larsen
tor, 2003-02-06 kl. 19:49 skrev Matthew Toseland:
 On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 10:23:54AM +0100, Allan Beaufour Larsen wrote:
  I've just upgraded to build 554, and now I get no data when trying to
  browse localhost:. It worked fine in 552. Any explanation?
 Yes. The only reason it worked before was a bug. You have
 mainport.allowedHosts=192.168.1.0/24
 or something like that in your config.
mainport.allowedHosts=*

I like to keep access control in my iptables-config

 You need
 mainport.allowedHosts=127.0.0.0/8,192.168.1.0/24

Okie. I've never really gotten that format. What's the equivalent to
'*'?

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Re: [freenet-support] Build 554: Server sends no data on requeststo port 8888

2003-02-06 Thread Allan Beaufour Larsen
tor, 2003-02-06 kl. 20:36 skrev Matthew Toseland:
   You need
   mainport.allowedHosts=127.0.0.0/8,192.168.1.0/24
  
  Okie. I've never really gotten that format. What's the equivalent to
  '*'?
 *

Buf that's exactly what I have in my config, and that doesn't work...

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Re: [freenet-support] Re: [Freenet-list] Freenet: Kaffe (free software) compatibility: Was: R freesite

2003-02-06 Thread marcoc1
At 18.46 06/02/03 +, you wrote:
 Re [freenet-support] Re [Free4.emsfile://D:\Mail\Attach\Re [freenet-support] Re 
[Free4.ems 0880.0002 

On Wed, Feb 05, 2003 at 10:26:35PM -0800, AARG!Anonymous wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] scriveva:
=20
   is happy to run on build 552; it is slow because run on a
slow system; the memory profile and resource use of kaffe
is far better respect sun jre.
   Take care of this compatibility; IMHO is more important
then that the mean Freenet developer think.
  
  It crashes in minutes on my machine. The developers have been somewhat
  nonresponsive, the bugs seem to be deep magick and the Project Leaders
  have determined that we don't need to spend money making Kaffe work wi=
th
  Freenet.
 =20
  This statement is very important; IMHO the Freenet Project=20
   need an explicit position on that question.
 =20
  Project Leaders, can we hear you ?
 =20
  Releasing the main code under GPL is ineffective, if the
   .jar need proprietary software; in my understanding
   the use of the GPL licence is incorrect; I think in
   this case LGPL is the right type of licence.
 =20
  Anyway, till Freenet remains in java, dropping the Kaffe
   compatibility IMHO is a fundamental mistake, both from
   the point of view of free software and from the security.
 =20
  The only other way to solve this problem is IMU, to=20
   release a C (or other freely compilable/runnable language)
   version
=20
 Totally agree with Marco: this shows my old sensation, Freenet is a good
 project but not its developer group :-(
Yeah yeah whatever. We can release a C version, but that means no new
features, no significant bugfixes and no speed improvements for a year.
And we need you to fund me to the tune of $1,250/month for all that
time. And finally it would be much easier to go to C++ and it would run
on almost as many platforms. A year is probably an underestimate for C,
since it'd have to be pretty much a complete reimplementation.

AFAIK, Mattew, you are probably the only person in the
 world (if any) that understand the overall Freenet
 software architecture.

Can you try to explain me why a software that run
 smootly in the stable version (552) on Kaffe 1.0.7,
 so desperately need other java features
 in the developement branch ?

It is really impossible to find a trade off
 between new developement and the existing
 features of Kaffe ?

What new vital feature need it ?

I need just one good reason to change my mind.

Thanks a lot for your patience .

Ciao.   Marco


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Re: [freenet-support] ARK gone nuts

2003-02-06 Thread Jack D . Ripper
On Thursday 06 February 2003 12:35 pm, Matthew Toseland wrote:
 maximumThreads=60
 defaultResetProbability=0.01

I already had maximumThreads set at 50 (sorry I didn't mention that, there's 
so many configuration variables that I have fiddled with trying to tune this 
thing that I forget what I've done to what!). When Frost overloaded my node, 
it had *HUNDREDS* of threads open, though. How could that be?! (My node is 
running Mandrake 9.0 Linux, stock 2.4.19 kernel). 

I will add the defaultResetProbability line and see if that helps. Thanks,

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Re: [freenet-support] Re: [Freenet-list] Freenet: Kaffe (free software) compatibility: Was: R freesite

2003-02-06 Thread Jack D. Ripper
On Thursday 06 February 2003 01:02 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It is really impossible to find a trade off
  between new developement and the existing
  features of Kaffe ?

Mostly a matter of Kaffe implementing such an ancient and limited version of 
Java that modern Java programmers can't deal with it easily, and the owner of 
the copyright on the Kaffe code has apparently abandoned it. 

If the FreeNet Project wants to support a free Java product, GCJ is the 
proper product to support. GCJ (the GNU Compiler for Java) is under active 
development and has re-implemented a number of the more interesting Sun 
libraries, though there is still much to be done. It also has the advantage 
of producing code that runs considerably faster than Kaffe, and on par or 
better than Sun's latest JDK1.4. 

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Re: [freenet-support] Build 554: Server sends no data on requeststo port 8888

2003-02-06 Thread Allan Beaufour Larsen
tor, 2003-02-06 kl. 22:28 bdonlan wrote:
 On Thursday 06 February 2003 02:11 pm, Allan Beaufour Larsen wrote:
  tor, 2003-02-06 kl. 19:49 skrev Matthew Toseland:
   You need
   mainport.allowedHosts=127.0.0.0/8,192.168.1.0/24
 
  Okie. I've never really gotten that format. What's the equivalent to
  '*'?
 
 Probably 0.0.0.0/0. You see, it's a subnet mask. First part is the IP, second 
 the number of on bits at the beginning of the mask.

D*mn, is that's all there's too it. Why did have I ignored that for so
long time... Oh well, tried that to, and it doesn't work either.

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[freenet-support] Throttling not working?

2003-02-06 Thread Jack D. Ripper
On Thursday 06 February 2003 01:32 pm, Jack D.Ripper wrote:
 On Thursday 06 February 2003 12:35 pm, Matthew Toseland wrote:
  maximumThreads=60
  defaultResetProbability=0.01

 I already had maximumThreads set at 50 (sorry I didn't mention that,
 there's so many configuration variables that I have fiddled with trying to
 tune this thing that I forget what I've done to what!). When Frost
 overloaded my node, it had *HUNDREDS* of threads open, though. How could
 that be?! (My node is running Mandrake 9.0 Linux, stock 2.4.19 kernel).

 I will add the defaultResetProbability line and see if that helps. Thanks,

Hmm, didn't help. maximumThreads set at 50, defaultResetProbability set at 
0.01, fired up Frost again, and here we go:

(from Environment screen)
---snip---
Pooled Thread Consumers
Class Threads used
Checkpoint: Fetching ARK freenet:SSK 1
freenet.interfaces.LocalInterface$ConnectionShell 2
freenet.Message: ClientGet 11
freenet.OpenConnectionManager$ConnectionJob 69
freenet.node.states.request.RequestInitiator 9
Checkpoint: Native Filesystem Directory checkpoint 1
freenet.client.InternalClient$ClientMessageVector 2
freenet.Message: QueryRejected
---snip---


Why do I have 69 Connectionjob threads when I have maximumThreads set at 50? 
It seems to me that this beast is initiating and accepting connections after 
it hits that limit! At the very least it should not be initiating connections 
after we hit maximumThreads, or assigning sockets to connections threads 
after we hit maximumThreads, right? Otherwise, what use is maximumThreads?!

Worse, this is actually *understimating* the number of threads outstanding.
ps -ax shows approximately 300 Java threads actually running! 

Something isn't getting throttled right. What now? 

Build Number 554 CVS Revision 1.90.2.30
Mandrake 9.0 Linux  stock 2.4.19 kernel

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Re: [freenet-support] Build 554: Server sends no data on requests to port 8888

2003-02-06 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 11:17:21PM +0100, Allan Beaufour Larsen wrote:
 tor, 2003-02-06 kl. 22:28 bdonlan wrote:
  On Thursday 06 February 2003 02:11 pm, Allan Beaufour Larsen wrote:
   tor, 2003-02-06 kl. 19:49 skrev Matthew Toseland:
You need
mainport.allowedHosts=127.0.0.0/8,192.168.1.0/24
  
   Okie. I've never really gotten that format. What's the equivalent to
   '*'?
  
  Probably 0.0.0.0/0. You see, it's a subnet mask. First part is the IP, second 
  the number of on bits at the beginning of the mask.
 
 D*mn, is that's all there's too it. Why did have I ignored that for so
 long time... Oh well, tried that to, and it doesn't work either.

Build 555 should fix all this... does it?
 
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Re: [freenet-support] Throttling not working?

2003-02-06 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 04:00:38PM -0700, Jack D. Ripper wrote:
 On Thursday 06 February 2003 01:32 pm, Jack D.Ripper wrote:
  On Thursday 06 February 2003 12:35 pm, Matthew Toseland wrote:
   maximumThreads=60
   defaultResetProbability=0.01
 
  I already had maximumThreads set at 50 (sorry I didn't mention that,
  there's so many configuration variables that I have fiddled with trying to
  tune this thing that I forget what I've done to what!). When Frost
  overloaded my node, it had *HUNDREDS* of threads open, though. How could
  that be?! (My node is running Mandrake 9.0 Linux, stock 2.4.19 kernel).
 
  I will add the defaultResetProbability line and see if that helps. Thanks,
 
 Hmm, didn't help. maximumThreads set at 50, defaultResetProbability set at 
 0.01, fired up Frost again, and here we go:
Which Frost? The old one or the new (with FEC splitfile support) one?
The new one seems reasonably well-behaved.
 
 (from Environment screen)
 ---snip---
 Pooled Thread Consumers
 Class Threads used
 Checkpoint: Fetching ARK freenet:SSK 1
 freenet.interfaces.LocalInterface$ConnectionShell 2
 freenet.Message: ClientGet 11
 freenet.OpenConnectionManager$ConnectionJob 69
 freenet.node.states.request.RequestInitiator 9
 Checkpoint: Native Filesystem Directory checkpoint 1
 freenet.client.InternalClient$ClientMessageVector 2
 freenet.Message: QueryRejected
 ---snip---
 
 
 Why do I have 69 Connectionjob threads when I have maximumThreads set at 50? 
 It seems to me that this beast is initiating and accepting connections after 
 it hits that limit! At the very least it should not be initiating connections 
 after we hit maximumThreads, or assigning sockets to connections threads 
 after we hit maximumThreads, right? Otherwise, what use is maximumThreads?!
 
 Worse, this is actually *understimating* the number of threads outstanding.
 ps -ax shows approximately 300 Java threads actually running! 
 
 Something isn't getting throttled right. What now? 
 
 Build Number 554 CVS Revision 1.90.2.30
 Mandrake 9.0 Linux  stock 2.4.19 kernel
 
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Re: [freenet-support] Build 554: Server sends no data on requeststo port 8888

2003-02-06 Thread Tld

Success, for me. Good job :)

Matthew Toseland wrote:


D*mn, is that's all there's too it. Why did have I ignored that for so
long time... Oh well, tried that to, and it doesn't work either.


Build 555 should fix all this... does it?


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