[freenet-support] please test my port

2003-10-31 Thread Martin
Can anybody test my port?

My current IP is 212.183.80.174

Port 1214

Thank you! I have a dyndns but as security reason I prefer to write only my 
current IP. It will work only some hours. Thank you!

Best regards

Martin

I am still not able to connect with freenet to the Internet.
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Re: [freenet-support] Usability improvement ideas

2003-10-31 Thread Doug Bostrom
On Friday 31 October 2003 07:37, Ian Clarke wrote:

 So, this email is an invitation to anyone that has constructive
 criticism or suggestion's for how Freenet's first impression can be
 enhanced.  Topics include installation, FProxy, even the website's layout.

 Ian.

The splitfile interface provides a useful measure of progress or at least 
continued activity. How about something to give users a little feedback while 
other key types are being retrieved? 

Browsers generally provide some kind of indication of progress, but some just 
lie (IE)  and if there's no progress in bytes retrieved, many users new to 
Freenet will likely assume nothing is happening and either try another key or 
give up even though productive activity is happening behind the scenes.

My host here has about 80MB of data constantly queued for transmission over 
100 or more connections sharing a 15kB uplink. I find myself wondering who 
will wait for any of this to arrive and how much of this queue will actually 
arrive at a client instead of being aborted.

I suspect such failed attempts probably degrade the overall network 
performance a bit, so a progress indicator might help the network as a whole 
by reducing accesses truncated due to impatience. 

Good on you for asking for suggestions!


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Re: [freenet-support] Usability improvement ideas

2003-10-31 Thread Toad
One thing people haven't suggested yet:
Log file rotation with deletion of old logfiles and a maximum space
usage setting.

On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 12:37:27PM +, Ian Clarke wrote:
 As the developers work hard to improve the core operation of Freenet, it 
 can be easy to forget about the more superficial, but equally important 
 aspects of Freenet, namely installation procedures, and usability for 
 newbies.
 
 For those intimately familiar with Freenet's operation it can be 
 difficult to look at Freenet's operation from the perspective of someone 
 new to the software, and often something that seems minor and trivial to 
 a core developer, might have a significant impact on a new user's view 
 of the software.
 
 So, this email is an invitation to anyone that has constructive 
 criticism or suggestion's for how Freenet's first impression can be 
 enhanced.  Topics include installation, FProxy, even the website's layout.
 
 Ian.

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[freenet-support] How to tell if my node is working well?

2003-10-31 Thread Kevin Bennett
I've been running a node for a couple of weeks now and am wondering how to
tell if my node is

a) well integrated into the network and
b) filling requests that are sent to it.

There is a bewildering array of graphs and stats, and I have no idea which
ones will give an indication of those 2 things.

Also, in the node reference status page there are some estimate figure that
aren't clear to me.  'Lowest global time estimate', 'Highest global time
estimate' and the first column after the peer address is 'Last estimate'.
Estimates of what?

Thanks.


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Re: [freenet-support] need a program to crawl links in freenet

2003-10-31 Thread Toad
On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 10:11:23PM -0600, tripolar wrote:
 Hello all
 
 I need a program to crawl links in freenet to get sites in cache before 
 I need them. I get frustrated with the speed of freenet and dead links. 
 I have used freenet on windows  linux and just installed freenet last 
 night on this winbox. I spent hours clicking on links just trying to 
 pull them in.
 Anything I can do other than manually clicking on all links?
 I do hope this make sense.
 one other thing- I would like to dedicate more bandwidth to freenet- so 
 that I can request several freenet sites as the same time without one or 
 more of them practically stalling.

That's not a problem with Freenet, it's a problem with your browser. You
need to tell it to use more simultaneous connections. Details are in the
README...

 Thanks

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Re: [freenet-support] Re: 5029 overloads

2003-10-31 Thread Toad
Reading between the lines... check your log file, have you had many
OutOfMemoryErrors?

On Wed, Oct 29, 2003 at 10:29:49PM -0800, Martin Stone Davis wrote:
 I'm using default values for everything.  Here are some relevant lines 
 from my freenet.ini:
 
 # Select which implementation of ThreadFactory to use.  Q: 
 QThreadFactory (default). F: FastThreadFactory. Y: YetAnotherThreadFactory.
 %threadFactory=Q
 
 # Should we use thread management?  If this number is defined and 
 non-zero, this specifies the max number of threads in the pool.  If this 
 is overrun, connections will be rejected and events won't execute on time.
 %maximumThreads=120
 
 But I'm confused.  Why does General Information say maximumThreads=40, 
 while freenet.ini says it's 120 by default?  And does this mean the real 
 default value (40) is being set way too low?
 
 -Martin
 
 Brandon Low wrote:
 What is your thread limit?  From the looks of that it is incredibly
 low... Also, are you using YThreads or QThreads... what you might want
 to do is increase your thread limit to something closer to 200 or 300
 and change to YThreads.
 
 --B
 
 On Wed, 10/29/03 at 22:06:53 -0800, Martin Stone Davis wrote:
 
 I've been running 5029 for over a day.  I noticed recently that outgoing 
 bandwidth decreased significantly.  Is this problem already known about?
 
 From General Information:
 
 Current routingTime 207ms
 Curent messageSendTimeRequest   496ms
 Pooled threads running jobs 47 (117.5%)
 Pooled threads which are idle   45
 Current upstream bandwidth usage2962 bytes/second (24.1%)
 Reason for refusing connections:activeThreads(47) = maximumThreads 
 (40)
 Reason for QueryRejecting requests: Estimated load (100%)  overloadLow 
 (85%)
 It's normal for the node to sometimes reject connections or requests 
 for a limited period. If you're seeing rejections continuously the node 
 is overloaded or something is wrong (i.e. a bug).
 Current estimated load  100% [Rejecting incoming connections and 
 requests!]
 Reason for load:Load due to thread limit = 117.5%
 Load due to routingTime = 73.1% = 85% + 15% * (207.953 - 1000.000) / 
 1000.000 = overloadLow (85%)
 Load due to messageSendTimeRequest = 82.5% = 85% + 15% * (496.871 - 
 1000.000) / 3000.000 = overloadLow (85%)
 Load due to output bandwidth limiting = 0% because outputBytes(177714) 
 = limit (589824.009 ) = outLimitCutoff (0.8) * outputBandwidthLimit 
 (12288) * 60
 
 From Environment:
 
 Thread Pool 
 
 Total pooled threads75
 Available pooled threads34
 Pooled threads in use   41
 
 Pooled Thread Consumers 
 
 Class   Threads used
 Checkpoint: Connection opener   1
 freenet.Message: Accepted   1
 freenet.Message: DataNotFound   1
 freenet.Message: DataReply  1
 freenet.Message: DataRequest1
 freenet.Message: QueryRejected  2
 freenet.Message: QueryRestarted 1
 freenet.interfaces.LocalNIOInterface$ConnectionShell12
 freenet.node.states.data.DataStateInitiator 14
 freenet.node.states.data.TrailerWriteCallbackMessage:true:true  5
 freenet.node.states.request.RequestInitiator2
 
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Re: [freenet-support] Usability improvement ideas

2003-10-31 Thread Ian Clarke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
freenet:// handled by Opera, Firebird etc. If Freenet isn't installed, a 
redirection to http://freenet.sf.net where the download links are more 
prominently displayed.
We have debated the whole freenet:xxx thing before and there are serious 
problems with it - not least of which that it will force us to start 
maintaining a different Freenet plugin for each version of each 
different web browser, this could rapidly turn into a support nightmare. 
 Combine this with the fact that there is little other than an asthetic 
benefit to this.

Ian.

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Re: [freenet-support] Usability improvement ideas

2003-10-31 Thread Troed Sngberg
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:57:49 +, Ian Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

freenet:// handled by Opera, Firebird etc. If Freenet isn't installed, 
a redirection to http://freenet.sf.net where the download links are 
more prominently displayed.
We have debated the whole freenet:xxx thing before and there are serious 
problems with it - not least of which that it will force us to start 
maintaining a different Freenet plugin for each version of each 
different web browser, this could rapidly turn into a support nightmare. 
  Combine this with the fact that there is little other than an asthetic 
benefit to this.
You asked what is needed for general acceptance of Freenet, I replied. 
I've advocated Freenet for a long time along my peers (I'm a professional 
Software Engineer, specialising in crypto/security issues) - and trying to 
get people to visit links to http://localhost: isn't working. Other 
programs (e2dk:// I believe) do this - Freenet needs it as well.

My experience is that this is a central issue for regular people - your 
mileage may of course differ. This is a project where I would expect 
people who feel strongly about the issue to be the ones who'll maintain 
it. I'll gladly do what needs to be done towards Opera since that's my 
browser of choice.

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Re: [freenet-dev] Re: [freenet-support] Usability improvement ideas

2003-10-31 Thread Ian Clarke
Troed SĂ„ngberg wrote:
You asked what is needed for general acceptance of Freenet, I replied.
And I disagreed.

I've advocated Freenet for a long time along my peers (I'm a 
professional Software Engineer, specialising in crypto/security issues) 
- and trying to get people to visit links to http://localhost: isn't 
working.
Just how are you trying to get people to visit such links?  Verbally? 
If so, I suspect that it might not be the http://localhost:/; part 
of the URL that puts them off, but rather the 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],UUleYfXnBfLThNmkB8dACg part might 
be the bit with which they are having trouble.  freenet:xxx URLs won't 
change that, but they will introduce a world of pain.

Freenet URLs are much more likely to be given to people in hyperlink 
form, in which case the actual form of the URL isn't particularly 
relevant.  The whole freenet:xxx thing is purely cosmetic.

Ian.

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Re: [freenet-dev] Re: [freenet-support] Usability improvement ideas

2003-10-31 Thread Troed Sngberg
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 18:03:33 +, Ian Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Just how are you trying to get people to visit such links?  Verbally? If
Thanks for calling Freenet advocates idiots - but the reaction is more 
pity from my side than anything else. http://localhost:; is what 
people find weird. They're used to http://; ftp://; etc and for them 
Freenet isn't serious until treated likewise.

I'll look into what needs to be done, and simply do it. It doesn't matter 
if you think it's purely cosmetic or not :)

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[freenet-support] Opera users rejoice! easily jump to a freenet key using these instructions

2003-10-31 Thread Lee Stoneman
Hi list!
Well, as you know us Opera users have the pleasure of being able todo quick
searches using shortcut keys like g blah blah blah to search google for
blah blah blah. And after seeing the Usability improvement ideas thread I
set out on the quest to enable us to quickly jump to provided KEY@ links
using a simple keypress like we can with google. Now, according to the Opera
web-site and documentation you are unable todo this! But, as with most
programs you'll be surprised what you can do with a little fiddling, so I
started digging and I can now jump to any provided keys just by typing in fr
then pasting in the link I want to goto. Whereas before you either had to
type in the address of your node and port or clicking on a personal bar
button and then paste in the link.

So, here is how todo it!

Close down any Opera sessions you have open.

Locate your profile directory for example it may be in
E:\Freenet\Opera\Profile\ and open the file search.ini (not the search.ini
in Opera\ )

Now, go down to the bottom of the file and paste the following in:

[Search Engine 40]
Name=Freenet
URL=http://127.0.0.1:/%s
Query=
Key=fr
Is post=0
Has endseparator=0
Encoding=utf-8
Search Type=0
Verbtext=17063
Nameid=0
Position=-1


If you run your freenet node on another machine just type in the IP and port
inplace of the example I listed above, but make sure you have %s after the /
You can change Key to anything you want to as long as it isn't already taken
like 'f' is for example.

These instructions work on Opera 7.20 and 7.21 And in theory should work
back to Opera 6 just change [Search Engine 40] to be the next number above
the one before it if it is different.

And this is reason #283791827983 why Opera is much better than anything else
:)

I hope my fellow Opera users find this as helpful as I have :)


Regards,
Lee Stoneman

PS Hope it was okay to post to both lists

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Re: [freenet-dev] Re: [freenet-support] Usability improvement ideas

2003-10-31 Thread Vitenka
[EMAIL PROTECTED],UUleYfXnBfLThNmkB8dACg part might 
be the bit with which they are having trouble.  freenet:xxx URLs won't 
change that, but they will introduce a world of pain.
Freenet URLs are much more likely to be given to people in hyperlink 
form, in which case the actual form of the URL isn't particularly 
relevant.  The whole freenet:xxx thing is purely cosmetic.
Except that you also have to mandate that everyone uses localhost: 
and not everyone can.  Some people will want to use proxies, others will 
want to use a different port.

Standardising on a freenet: hyperlink is just an obvious thing to do. 
It would also make freesite pages saved to disk work more reliably if 
passed around.

I say go for it, but the way to do it is for the plugins to be done as 
separate projects and their releases included as a part of a freenet 
distribution if a stable one ever happens.

Does anyone have any decent docs on netscape plugin architecture?

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[freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Usability improvement ideas

2003-10-31 Thread Tony Godshall
According to Ian Clarke,
 As the developers work hard to improve the core operation of Freenet, it 
 can be easy to forget about the more superficial, but equally important 
 aspects of Freenet, namely installation procedures, and usability for 
 newbies.
 
 For those intimately familiar with Freenet's operation it can be 
 difficult to look at Freenet's operation from the perspective of someone 
 new to the software, and often something that seems minor and trivial to 
 a core developer, might have a significant impact on a new user's view 
 of the software.
 
 So, this email is an invitation to anyone that has constructive 
 criticism or suggestion's for how Freenet's first impression can be 
 enhanced.  Topics include installation, FProxy, even the website's layout.

Installing 'freenet://' URL as a helper for popular browsers,
automatcially, with the installation of freenet.  Not as a
plug-in for every known browser, but at least the mailcap
files (that way standards-based browsers will Just Work).

Opening up the JVM requirements so it's not so complicated
to get the infrastructure needed to get freenet going.
(JGC?) 

Get Debian maintainer to update the freenet .debs (even
freenet-unstable is obsolete and broken) and fix the
dependencies it so it will Just Work (i.e. without complicated 
JVM requirements).  This would make Freenet available to the
likes of Lindows users.


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[freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Usability improvement ideas

2003-10-31 Thread Tracy R Reed
On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 12:37:27PM +, Ian Clarke spake thusly:
 So, this email is an invitation to anyone that has constructive 
 criticism or suggestion's for how Freenet's first impression can be 
 enhanced.  Topics include installation, FProxy, even the website's layout.

The first thing new users say is slow. More often than ease of use or
installation complaints the speed is always the first thing they comment
on in my experience.

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Re: [freenet-support] Usability improvement ideas

2003-10-31 Thread troed
Quoting Ian Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 So, this email is an invitation to anyone that has constructive 
 criticism or suggestion's for how Freenet's first impression can be 
 enhanced.  Topics include installation, FProxy, even the website's layout.

freenet:// handled by Opera, Firebird etc. If Freenet isn't installed, a 
redirection to http://freenet.sf.net where the download links are more 
prominently displayed. There _has_ to be a question when installing asking the 
user if he/she pays for bandwidth (esp outgoing) and set the configuration in 
Freenet accordingly - bad press resulting from Joe Doe installing Freenet and 
getting $1000 bills (think NZ, OZ) isn't good.

More advertising. Atm Diebold are shutting down sites hosting their memos 
using the DMCA. Educate the world to the fact that Freenet can be used for the 
public good - the memos are already available in Freenet.

Better portals. People _don't_ want links to child pornography (no, I don't want 
a discussion, flamefest etc, I'm talking the general public who want to USE 
Freenet) to be the first thing they see. Instead the top portal should contain 
links like the Diebold one, the Scientology Bible etc. Advertise the fact that 
Freedom of Speach is the central issue.

I just wrote a comment to an article in Sweden's largest IT-newssite where I 
brought this up (regarding the Swedish military wanting to tap regular users' 
Internet-connections). This is where we need to push Freenet.

(http://www.idg.se/ArticlePages/200310/31/20031031135522_SOS/20031031135522_SOS.
dbp.asp for the ones who can read Swedish)

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