Re: [freenet-support] Can't download seednodes.ref
> they are talking about this problem on the dev list. > sourceforge is going big corporation, > and this is a side effect of their cost-cutting measures. > they intentionally slow down the download of seednodes.ref > because they want to force projects to compress these files. > > kind regards philippe I don't think that's it. When I tried the webinstall, each file would have a 50/50 chance of downloading at either 150K+/s or .02K/s. That ain't from throttling. And when I downloaded the files via ftp (Well, HTTP download from the FTP server), they all downloaded full-speed. Any way you slice it, that's a tech problem on their end, regardless of the "spin" they're tryin' to put on it. Don ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Can't download seednodes.ref
I'm trying to install Freenet from java-webinstall.exe, but the download keeps failing after downloading several megabytes. I've tried downloading through Firefox as well as through java-webinstall, but the download is always interrupted. Is the problem on my end or is it a problem with Freenet's web server? I had the same problem. I tried MANY times to download it, unsuccessfully. I forget exactly how I got it to run. I think I went to the FTP directory, and downloaded the individual files manually, if I remember right. The Webinstall just wasn't working at all. they are talking about this problem on the dev list. sourceforge is going big corporation, and this is a side effect of their cost-cutting measures. they intentionally slow down the download of seednodes.ref because they want to force projects to compress these files. kind regards philippe ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Startup question
On Friday 04 March 2005 4:46, Todd Walton wrote: > On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 16:33:49 -0500, Don Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Running it on my desktop system isn't very practical. There's just too > > much bandwidth, CPU time and disk accessing running in the background. > > You'll still have the bandwidth issues, if it's not on a different > Internet connection. H, good point. Well, I'll blow up that bridge when I come to it... ;-) Don ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Startup question
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 16:33:49 -0500, Don Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Running it on my desktop system isn't very practical. There's just too much > bandwidth, CPU time and disk accessing running in the background. You'll still have the bandwidth issues, if it's not on a different Internet connection. -todd ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Freenet service not starting on Gentoo Linux
On Thursday 03 March 2005 1:49, Todd Walton wrote: > On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 19:04:12 +1300, John Huttley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Narcis Gratianu wrote: > > I'm sorry that I cannot offer a script-kiddy answer. > > You're a dork. ROFL! Damned surly tech-support guys! ;-) Don ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Can't download seednodes.ref
On Monday 28 February 2005 12:54, Adrian Lopez wrote: > I'm trying to install Freener from java-webinstall.exe, but the download > keeps failing after downloading several megabytes. I've tried > downloading through Firefox as well as through java-webinstall, but the > download is always interrupted. > > Is the problem on my end or is it a problem with Freenet's web server? > ___ > Support mailing list > Support@freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at > http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > . I had the same problem. I tried MANY times to download it, unsuccessfully. I forget exactly how I got it to run. I think I went to the FTP directory, and downloaded the individual files manually, if I remember right. The Webinstall just wasn't working at all. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Getting started question...
On Wednesday 02 March 2005 8:10, Matthew Toseland wrote: > You need to make sure that that node can access the internet fully i.e. > it can receive incoming connections. If it can, and the box is 500MHz+ > with 128+ MB of RAM, it should get a lot better over a week or so. > Freenet _does not offer instant gratification_. 0.7 will be a lot better > on this (learning time), but will still have the basic problem that > nodes must learn where stuff is. Well, just got the box today. It's a hand me down from my cousin. I know it's a K6-2/533 (Yech!) And according to the Compaq factory stats, has 64M of RAM, but I'm hoping my cousin added a bit more to it in the time he's owned it. Haven't had a chance to check it out yet. I'm busy reconfiguring my desktop system to dual-boot Linux/XP. I'm pretty good about keeping XP tuned up right, but I've just installed/uninstalled too many programs over the last year and change, and it was gettin' twitchy, so I decided to blow it away. I'm tryin' to make a Linux desktop I can use full-time, and I'll just keep the XP partition for gaming. SimplyMEPIS 3.3. Debian distro. Very slick. I highly recommend it for anybody looking for a Windows-replacement version of Linux. Though it only comes with KDE, so you have to install Gnome yourself if you want it. Really a very simple process with the Synaptic Package manager. But I digress... ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Stable build 5102
Freenet stable build 5102 is now available. This is hoped to be the last stable build for a while as we concentrate on 0.7. The main change: - The warning about Internet Explorer being unsafe due to not respecting MIME types was being sent as one of (several of, actually, due to not enough locking) the bookmark images. As a result, these images immediately failed the first time, and the user did not see the warning. Also a couple of minor things reverted from 5101. Due to some problems with sourceforge, you may not be able to get the files from their normal locations (not at an acceptable speed anyway). Therefore I have released the jar via sourceforge (it would be rather odd to release the seednodes via sourceforge - just get the .bz2 version and uncompress it; we will fix the wininstaller so it can do this soon): Index page: https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=978 Direct link to mirror selection: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/freenet/freenet-5102.jar?download -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Getting started question...
On Wednesday 02 March 2005 8:12, Matthew Toseland wrote: > Make sure you forward the port. You can see if this has worked from the > Open Connections page (in Advanced mode) - are there any incoming > connections? The FNP port is the listenPort - this must be accessible > from the outside internet. Yep, already done. Got it configured on the router when I was testing it on my desktop system. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Startup question
> > Sorry we can't be more helpful. > > We *can* be more helpful, and in fact we were, as evidenced by Dave > Hooper and myself. > > Perhaps you misunderstood what he was asking for? Ah, it's cool. I understood what he meant, and it actually was somewhat useful. At least I know now not to expect it to really populate all that quickly. Well, like I said before, it'll have its own box to run on soon, and hopefully, over time, that one will start to be responsive. Running it on my desktop system isn't very practical. There's just too much bandwidth, CPU time and disk accessing running in the background. D ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Startup question
> Well then don't use Freenet. It'll never work well if it can't run most > of the time. With the current version, which learns really slowly. Sorry > we can't be more helpful. Obviously you can turn it off when you want to > play Quake, but you can't just fire freenet up and instantly start > downloading, because of its architecture. Well, I'm setting up a dedicated linux box to run it on (well, sorta, I'll be running other net stuff on there too), so we'll see how that goes after it has a few weeks to learn. D ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] request for java 1.5 compilation ..
Java 1.5: 1) Java 1.5 is unnecessary for our purposes. 2) We'd like to keep it that way. We're trying to wean ourselves from proprietary technology. We do actually care about anonymity. 3) We already know most all of the issues with Java 1.4, we can meet the needs of those who are on Java 1.4. 4) Including the Sun JVM will be a thing of the past when the coders complete work on 0.7. -todd ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Current status
FAQ: Why hasn't there been more progress by now? A lot of my time recently has been lost due to the software patents protest and FOSDEM, both of which were in Brussels. The conferencing and protesting season is over for now, I hope. FAQ: What about the simulations? On hold for the time being, people are welcome to do their own. Any other questions? On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 06:13:58PM +, Matthew Toseland wrote: > Okay, here's what's been happening lately - some of it will be known by > most people here, some won't: > > We have decided to ditch Freenet 0.5/0.6, and build a new network, 0.7, > more or less from scratch. I have been pulling in a lot of code from > Dijjer, and some code from the current Freenet codebase, but basically > it is a rewrite. 0.5 and 0.6 will not be touched very much unless > critical issues appear. > > The major changes will be: > - UDP. We may implement a TCP transport at some later point but UDP > will be the preferred transport. > - 32kB fixed block size > - Elimination of a lot of cruft! > > Right now the code is in the new module Freenet0.7Rewrite. The actual > runnables are in test/ - a series of test modules which slowly approach > a functional node. I have a number of local changes which I'm not quite > happy with yet which will be committed soon. The current status is: > - Datastore is working > - Key encoding, decoding and verification is working > - Data transfer is working > - I have a 2-node test network, where you request a block, the node will > then check its store, and if it can't find it will query the other > node, which will check its store, and if it can't be found on either > you get a failure, but if it can be found on the second, it will > return it and decode it. > - Recently I have been working on a more general test network where you > have N nodes, each connected to M specified nodes, which route > requests randomly and can forward them, and the answers, for other > nodes. Major current issues: > -- Some questions relating to packet loss have not yet been completely > resolved; we may or may not want to implement a reliable delivery > layer below FNP. > -- We need simultaneous transmit and retreive for even remotely > tolerable performance. > > What I propose to do next: > - Fix the current issues above; I will then have a pseudo-routing > framework test. > - Implement real routing. > - Implement dynamic connections. > > Some refactoring might be needed at this point, to try to move the > request processes into real classes. And eventually I will need to > seriously tackle continuations - everything is thread-based at present, > and a lot of it is blocking. > > Unfortunately the incremental approach I have been pursuing doesn't > parallelize particularly well. But it can do, with good co-ordination. > Please contact me if you want to do something to make Freenet 0.7 a > reality. > > Here are some pending tasks that I won't get to for a while - don't just > start on something though, ask me, and I can give you plenty of info and > help: > - Link-level encryption (between nodes; can be tested locally with > something as simple as TransferSendTest; significant changes > from 0.5/0.6 so contact me) > - SSKs (test using DatastoreTest - generalize it so it can store both > CHKs and SSKs, and later test with PreQuasiNodeTest; basically > the same as 0.5/0.6) > - Metadata (simple redirects; DBRs if SSKs are working; FEC encoding - > overlap with next item; metadata can be split, and transparently > compressed; basically the same as 0.5/0.6; would seem to depend > on SSKs, but you could certainly make progress with only CHKs - > e.g. FEC) > - FCPv2 (FEC encoding/decoding will be done by the node with copious > status information sent back to the node; compression ditto; > FCPv2 is a multiplexed but simple text-based protocol fairly > similar to FCP). > - Documentation of imported Dijjer code! :) > - FProxy (no huge changes, but interface to rest of node will be > changed; we are getting rid of NIO, so reverting to classical > servlet interface; that does not actually impact much code nor > does it increase the number of threads used since fproxy is > currently pseudo-blocking) > - Whatever else you can think of is probably needed! > -- > Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ > ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. > ___ > Devl mailing list > Devl@freenetproject.org > http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devl -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support maili
[freenet-support] Current status
Okay, here's what's been happening lately - some of it will be known by most people here, some won't: We have decided to ditch Freenet 0.5/0.6, and build a new network, 0.7, more or less from scratch. I have been pulling in a lot of code from Dijjer, and some code from the current Freenet codebase, but basically it is a rewrite. 0.5 and 0.6 will not be touched very much unless critical issues appear. The major changes will be: - UDP. We may implement a TCP transport at some later point but UDP will be the preferred transport. - 32kB fixed block size - Elimination of a lot of cruft! Right now the code is in the new module Freenet0.7Rewrite. The actual runnables are in test/ - a series of test modules which slowly approach a functional node. I have a number of local changes which I'm not quite happy with yet which will be committed soon. The current status is: - Datastore is working - Key encoding, decoding and verification is working - Data transfer is working - I have a 2-node test network, where you request a block, the node will then check its store, and if it can't find it will query the other node, which will check its store, and if it can't be found on either you get a failure, but if it can be found on the second, it will return it and decode it. - Recently I have been working on a more general test network where you have N nodes, each connected to M specified nodes, which route requests randomly and can forward them, and the answers, for other nodes. Major current issues: -- Some questions relating to packet loss have not yet been completely resolved; we may or may not want to implement a reliable delivery layer below FNP. -- We need simultaneous transmit and retreive for even remotely tolerable performance. What I propose to do next: - Fix the current issues above; I will then have a pseudo-routing framework test. - Implement real routing. - Implement dynamic connections. Some refactoring might be needed at this point, to try to move the request processes into real classes. And eventually I will need to seriously tackle continuations - everything is thread-based at present, and a lot of it is blocking. Unfortunately the incremental approach I have been pursuing doesn't parallelize particularly well. But it can do, with good co-ordination. Please contact me if you want to do something to make Freenet 0.7 a reality. Here are some pending tasks that I won't get to for a while - don't just start on something though, ask me, and I can give you plenty of info and help: - Link-level encryption (between nodes; can be tested locally with something as simple as TransferSendTest; significant changes from 0.5/0.6 so contact me) - SSKs (test using DatastoreTest - generalize it so it can store both CHKs and SSKs, and later test with PreQuasiNodeTest; basically the same as 0.5/0.6) - Metadata (simple redirects; DBRs if SSKs are working; FEC encoding - overlap with next item; metadata can be split, and transparently compressed; basically the same as 0.5/0.6; would seem to depend on SSKs, but you could certainly make progress with only CHKs - e.g. FEC) - FCPv2 (FEC encoding/decoding will be done by the node with copious status information sent back to the node; compression ditto; FCPv2 is a multiplexed but simple text-based protocol fairly similar to FCP). - Documentation of imported Dijjer code! :) - FProxy (no huge changes, but interface to rest of node will be changed; we are getting rid of NIO, so reverting to classical servlet interface; that does not actually impact much code nor does it increase the number of threads used since fproxy is currently pseudo-blocking) - Whatever else you can think of is probably needed! -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Can't download seednodes.ref
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 01:54:44 -0400, Adrian Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm trying to install Freener from java-webinstall.exe, but the download > keeps failing after downloading several megabytes. I've tried > downloading through Firefox as well as through java-webinstall, but the > download is always interrupted. > > Is the problem on my end or is it a problem with Freenet's web server? It very well could be Freenet's web server. This has happened before. -todd ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] request for java 1.5 compilation ..
Does 1.5 make much difference? On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 03:16:28PM +1030, Mark Davis wrote: > Hi, > > I was having a look around the project - comparing it to frost and there is > one glaring (and I hope simple) idea which will make things easier for us > users. > > It is in two parts ... the first is the download of the java 1.5 and > installation - along with freenet for 1.5 ... > The other is the upgrade of freenet for java 1.5. > Just like you have with the 1.4 versions on the website that you have at > present ... > > What it implies for us non techno geeks is we can upgrade systems we don't > know about ... such as java, where to get it. I had to ask ... > > As 1.5 is supposedly so much better than 1.4, surely it is in everyone's > interest to encourage such a migration? > As there seems to be several versions of java 1.5, you keep your build to > ONE version and still allow the techno geeks to build their own version. > > Work ... > 1) download and link to a specific version of java ... > 2) create a 1.5 optimized build of freenet. > 3) create a new installer for 1.5 > 4) create a faq sheet for upgrade. Content-Description: "AVG certification" > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.0 - Release Date: 25/02/2005 > ___ > Support mailing list > Support@freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Can't download seednodes.ref
I'm trying to install Freener from java-webinstall.exe, but the download keeps failing after downloading several megabytes. I've tried downloading through Firefox as well as through java-webinstall, but the download is always interrupted. Is the problem on my end or is it a problem with Freenet's web server? ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] request for java 1.5 compilation ..
Hi, I was having a look around the project - comparing it to frost and there is one glaring (and I hope simple) idea which will make things easier for us users. It is in two parts ... the first is the download of the java 1.5 and installation - along with freenet for 1.5 ... The other is the upgrade of freenet for java 1.5. Just like you have with the 1.4 versions on the website that you have at present ... What it implies for us non techno geeks is we can upgrade systems we don't know about ... such as java, where to get it. I had to ask ... As 1.5 is supposedly so much better than 1.4, surely it is in everyone's interest to encourage such a migration? As there seems to be several versions of java 1.5, you keep your build to ONE version and still allow the techno geeks to build their own version. Work ... 1) download and link to a specific version of java ... 2) create a 1.5 optimized build of freenet. 3) create a new installer for 1.5 4) create a faq sheet for upgrade. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.0 - Release Date: 25/02/2005 ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
