[freenet-support] quick question

2008-06-08 Thread Peter S
Sure did. Works as I reckoned, but it then also means that the 'safe peers'
part of it is slightly impaired, as you HAVE to do node-ref exchanges to the
'inside', with people you've probably only talked briefly with, to get the
full Freenet working. And I guess the 'auto-update' feature only works
through there.

2008/6/8 freenetwork at web.de :

> If these ten nodes are only interconnected with themselves they -of
> course- have no access to the larger network and therefore form a small
> private, albeit darknet, network.
> If one of the nodes is connected to the "global" darknet, then the ten
> nodes have access to the global darknet but routing might be impaired as
> the other nine nodes will not connect to the darknet.
>
> Opennet is a completely different story as nodes are seeded by seednodes
> (therefore private networks are possible if the nodes don't access the
> seednodes, but by default opennet nodes ask seednodes).
> Also opennet nodes do swap informations about their peers, so nodes
> without knowledge of other nodes might come across new noderefs and
> connect to previously unknown nodes to enhance connectivity.
>
> Hope this helped
>
>
> Peter S wrote:
> > Just a simple question; 10 peers, none using opennet, and all
> > interconnected with each node having the other 9 in their trusted
> > peers list .. will they be able to access the 'actual freenet', or is
> > this just a small private and closed circle, with only the content
> > they publish inside that circle available?
> > If 10 peers in a closed loop as described /can/ access the freenet, I
> > just don't understand HOW that's possible without talking to other
> > nodes in an opennet fashion and somewhat compromising the closed loop.
> > 
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[freenet-support] quick question

2008-06-08 Thread freenetw...@web.de
If these ten nodes are only interconnected with themselves they -of 
course- have no access to the larger network and therefore form a small 
private, albeit darknet, network.
If one of the nodes is connected to the "global" darknet, then the ten 
nodes have access to the global darknet but routing might be impaired as 
the other nine nodes will not connect to the darknet.

Opennet is a completely different story as nodes are seeded by seednodes 
(therefore private networks are possible if the nodes don't access the 
seednodes, but by default opennet nodes ask seednodes).
Also opennet nodes do swap informations about their peers, so nodes 
without knowledge of other nodes might come across new noderefs and 
connect to previously unknown nodes to enhance connectivity.

Hope this helped


Peter S wrote:
> Just a simple question; 10 peers, none using opennet, and all 
> interconnected with each node having the other 9 in their trusted 
> peers list .. will they be able to access the 'actual freenet', or is 
> this just a small private and closed circle, with only the content 
> they publish inside that circle available?
> If 10 peers in a closed loop as described /can/ access the freenet, I 
> just don't understand HOW that's possible without talking to other 
> nodes in an opennet fashion and somewhat compromising the closed loop.
> 
>
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[freenet-support] quick question

2008-06-08 Thread Peter S
Just a simple question; 10 peers, none using opennet, and all interconnected
with each node having the other 9 in their trusted peers list .. will they
be able to access the 'actual freenet', or is this just a small private and
closed circle, with only the content they publish inside that circle
available?
If 10 peers in a closed loop as described *can* access the freenet, I just
don't understand HOW that's possible without talking to other nodes in an
opennet fashion and somewhat compromising the closed loop.
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[freenet-support] quick question

2008-06-08 Thread Peter S
Just a simple question; 10 peers, none using opennet, and all interconnected
with each node having the other 9 in their trusted peers list .. will they
be able to access the 'actual freenet', or is this just a small private and
closed circle, with only the content they publish inside that circle
available?
If 10 peers in a closed loop as described *can* access the freenet, I just
don't understand HOW that's possible without talking to other nodes in an
opennet fashion and somewhat compromising the closed loop.
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Re: [freenet-support] quick question

2008-06-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If these ten nodes are only interconnected with themselves they -of 
course- have no access to the larger network and therefore form a small 
private, albeit darknet, network.
If one of the nodes is connected to the global darknet, then the ten 
nodes have access to the global darknet but routing might be impaired as 
the other nine nodes will not connect to the darknet.

Opennet is a completely different story as nodes are seeded by seednodes 
(therefore private networks are possible if the nodes don't access the 
seednodes, but by default opennet nodes ask seednodes).
Also opennet nodes do swap informations about their peers, so nodes 
without knowledge of other nodes might come across new noderefs and 
connect to previously unknown nodes to enhance connectivity.

Hope this helped


Peter S wrote:
 Just a simple question; 10 peers, none using opennet, and all 
 interconnected with each node having the other 9 in their trusted 
 peers list .. will they be able to access the 'actual freenet', or is 
 this just a small private and closed circle, with only the content 
 they publish inside that circle available?
 If 10 peers in a closed loop as described /can/ access the freenet, I 
 just don't understand HOW that's possible without talking to other 
 nodes in an opennet fashion and somewhat compromising the closed loop.
 

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Re: [freenet-support] quick question

2008-06-08 Thread Peter S
Sure did. Works as I reckoned, but it then also means that the 'safe peers'
part of it is slightly impaired, as you HAVE to do node-ref exchanges to the
'inside', with people you've probably only talked briefly with, to get the
full Freenet working. And I guess the 'auto-update' feature only works
through there.

2008/6/8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 If these ten nodes are only interconnected with themselves they -of
 course- have no access to the larger network and therefore form a small
 private, albeit darknet, network.
 If one of the nodes is connected to the global darknet, then the ten
 nodes have access to the global darknet but routing might be impaired as
 the other nine nodes will not connect to the darknet.

 Opennet is a completely different story as nodes are seeded by seednodes
 (therefore private networks are possible if the nodes don't access the
 seednodes, but by default opennet nodes ask seednodes).
 Also opennet nodes do swap informations about their peers, so nodes
 without knowledge of other nodes might come across new noderefs and
 connect to previously unknown nodes to enhance connectivity.

 Hope this helped


 Peter S wrote:
  Just a simple question; 10 peers, none using opennet, and all
  interconnected with each node having the other 9 in their trusted
  peers list .. will they be able to access the 'actual freenet', or is
  this just a small private and closed circle, with only the content
  they publish inside that circle available?
  If 10 peers in a closed loop as described /can/ access the freenet, I
  just don't understand HOW that's possible without talking to other
  nodes in an opennet fashion and somewhat compromising the closed loop.
  
 
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