[freenet-support] freenet stops running

2009-01-07 Thread bqz69
On Wednesday 07 January 2009 18:49:57 bqz69 wrote:
> > But, Bzq69, your wrapper does seem to be restarting freenet properly.
> > Are you sure you need another wrapper around that wrapper? :)
>
> I do not know much about the freenet internals, so I do not know.
>
http://www.minihowto.org/4/

Here you can see my wrapper log from november, when the problem began?
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[freenet-support] freenet stops running

2009-01-07 Thread bqz69

> But, Bzq69, your wrapper does seem to be restarting freenet properly.
> Are you sure you need another wrapper around that wrapper? :)

I do not know much about the freenet internals, so I do not know.





[freenet-support] Concerned about privacy

2009-01-07 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Wednesday 07 January 2009 02:05, Dennis Nezic wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:56:48 +, Matthew Toseland
>  wrote:
> 
> > On Tuesday 06 January 2009 16:51, 3BUIb3S50i 3BUIb3S50i wrote:
> > > So, Freemulet or Frost "automatic insertion" are dangerous? We know
> > > the key before the upload of the file.
> > 
> > Yes IMHO.
> 
> There's no such thing as a "stream of content" in freenet. Aren't
> chunks distributed across lots of nodes, and thus not traceable to
> any one location? Wasn't that the whole point of freenet? ;)

Doesn't follow, unfortunately.

If for example the same identity is known from public posts to be reinserting 
a series of files of known content, you have a large number of inserts which 
can be correlated together. The attack would then be to watch the inserts 
(initially a trickle because the attacker is far from the originator), and 
use the fact that they got routed to your node and the location of the key 
(or simply which node sent you the inserts) to get a rough idea of where the 
originator is on the network. Then get some connections a bit closer to the 
target. The number of inserts you intercept will increase, enabling you to 
approach the target ever more rapidly. This works on darknet as well as 
opennet, the difference is on darknet getting a connection to a target node 
is expensive, requiring e.g. social engineering, remote compromise of the 
node, or local compromise (e.g. dawn raid).
> 
> And, I'm guessing that this theoretical attack, if it even exists,
> would only affect new inserts.
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[freenet-support] rapport bug

2009-01-07 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Saturday 03 January 2009 14:39, krisstoffnice at voila.fr wrote:
> 1 of your peers are having severe problems (not acknowledging packets even 
after 10 minutes). This is probably due to a bug in the code
> The affected peers are:85.229.21.37:54144 

Thanks. This is unfortunately a known issue, and we will look into it 
eventually, but it is not as serious as it was before Christmas so is not so 
urgent.
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[freenet-support] Probably a bug.....

2009-01-07 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Saturday 03 January 2009 21:39, cas200 wrote:
> Hello, I got this messages today:
> 
> "Probably a bug: please report: 1 peers forcibly disconnected due to not 
> acknowledging packets."
> 
> "1 of your peers are having severe problems (not acknowledging packets 
> even after 10 minutes). This is probably due to a bug in the code. 
> Please report it to us at the bug tracker at 
> https://bugs.freenetproject.org/ 
> <http://127.0.0.1:/?_CHECKED_HTTP_=https://bugs.freenetproject.org/> 
> or to the support mailing list support at freenetproject.org. Please 
> include this message and what version of the node you are running. The 
> affected peers (you may not want to include this in your bug report if 
> they are darknet peers) are:
> 
> * 76.29.179.6:3728"
> 
> perhaps you know about it.
> 
> Thank you for reading

Thanks. This is unfortunately a known issue, and we will look into it 
eventually, but it is not as serious as it was before Christmas so is not so 
urgent.
> 
> Beliar
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[freenet-support] freenet stops running

2009-01-07 Thread Dennis Nezic
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 17:22:52 +0100, bqz69  wrote:

> On Wednesday 07 January 2009 16:56:16 Dennis Nezic wrote:
>  Do you have the
> > most recent freenet-ext.jar?
> Yes
> 
> Here is my newest wrapper log from 6. jan 2009:
> 
> http://www.minihowto.org/6/wrapper.log

Toad, this problem, of "hanging jvms" appears to be quite popular!
Bqz69's node is also "crashing" almost every day--like my node used to
(when I had it running in a wrapper)--and like others have also
reported :\.

Running out of a wrapper seems to make the crashes less frequent.

But, Bzq69, your wrapper does seem to be restarting freenet properly.
Are you sure you need another wrapper around that wrapper? :)



[freenet-support] freenet stops running

2009-01-07 Thread Dennis Nezic
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:46:52 +0100, bqz69  wrote:

> On Wednesday 07 January 2009 16:32:17 Dennis Nezic wrote:
> > On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 10:42:56 +0100, bqz69  wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 07 January 2009 02:53:19 Dennis Nezic wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:30:55 +0100, user1 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday 06 January 2009 23:19:43 Dennis Nezic wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:55:42 +0100, user1 
> > > > > >
> 
> > > I have  a wrapper log, yes.
> >
> > Yes, but, almost the only purpose for using a wrapper is to do
> > precisely that :)--to restart the node if it ever crashes :). I
> > wonder why the wrapper isn't doing this. Are you sure the wrapper is
> > running? :) (maybe your wrapper.log is old).
> 
> No:
> 
> wrapper.log   6. jan. 2009
> 
> wrapper.log.1 3. jan. 2009

Try checking in those files for any useful information. Ie. lines
prefixed with "wrapper". Like the version of the wrapper, and also what
it says before it gets restarted. Does it detect that freenet or the
jvm have crashed? Maybe the wrapper itself crashed :). Do you have the
most recent freenet-ext.jar?



[freenet-support] freenet stops running

2009-01-07 Thread bqz69
On Wednesday 07 January 2009 02:53:19 Dennis Nezic wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:30:55 +0100, user1  wrote:
> > On Tuesday 06 January 2009 23:19:43 Dennis Nezic wrote:
> > > On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:55:42 +0100, user1  wrote:
> > > > Now my freenet on my fit-pc with 256 mb ram seems to be running
> > > > steady (has been running for the last couple of days).
> > > >
> > > > I did following:
> > > > [cut]
> > >
> > > That's an ugly[1] hack :). And, doesn't your run.sh start a wrapper
> > >
> > > Though, we have similar physical ram space--I have a bit more,
> > > 384MB. (Why is 100M not enough again?) Do you have other big memory
> > > users running on your system?
> >
> > No

Even if an ugly hack, my freenet is running, and that was my purpose.

I have  a wrapper log, yes.

My fit-pc is running as a mini-freenet server (data transfer), but anything 
else goes very slow, so I use another computer for my "ordinary" tasks (fit-pc 
only comsumes 18 watt incl. router and adsl  modem - when measured with a 
cheap household watt measurer).




[freenet-support] freenet stops running

2009-01-07 Thread Dennis Nezic
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 10:42:56 +0100, bqz69  wrote:

> On Wednesday 07 January 2009 02:53:19 Dennis Nezic wrote:
> > On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:30:55 +0100, user1  wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 06 January 2009 23:19:43 Dennis Nezic wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:55:42 +0100, user1 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Now my freenet on my fit-pc with 256 mb ram seems to be
> > > > > running steady (has been running for the last couple of days).
> > > > >
> > > > > I did following:
> > > > > [cut]
> > > >
> > > > That's an ugly[1] hack :). And, doesn't your run.sh start a
> > > > wrapper
> > > >
> > > > Though, we have similar physical ram space--I have a bit more,
> > > > 384MB. (Why is 100M not enough again?) Do you have other big
> > > > memory users running on your system?
> > >
> > > No
> 
> Even if an ugly hack, my freenet is running, and that was my purpose.
> 
> I have  a wrapper log, yes.

Yes, but, almost the only purpose for using a wrapper is to do
precisely that :)--to restart the node if it ever crashes :). I wonder
why the wrapper isn't doing this. Are you sure the wrapper is
running? :) (maybe your wrapper.log is old).



Re: [freenet-support] freenet stops running

2009-01-07 Thread bqz69
On Wednesday 07 January 2009 02:53:19 Dennis Nezic wrote:
 On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:30:55 +0100, user1 bq...@telia.com wrote:
  On Tuesday 06 January 2009 23:19:43 Dennis Nezic wrote:
   On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:55:42 +0100, user1 bq...@telia.com wrote:
Now my freenet on my fit-pc with 256 mb ram seems to be running
steady (has been running for the last couple of days).
   
I did following:
[cut]
  
   That's an ugly[1] hack :). And, doesn't your run.sh start a wrapper
  
   Though, we have similar physical ram space--I have a bit more,
   384MB. (Why is 100M not enough again?) Do you have other big memory
   users running on your system?
 
  No

Even if an ugly hack, my freenet is running, and that was my purpose.

I have  a wrapper log, yes.

My fit-pc is running as a mini-freenet server (data transfer), but anything 
else goes very slow, so I use another computer for my ordinary tasks (fit-pc 
only comsumes 18 watt incl. router and adsl  modem - when measured with a 
cheap household watt measurer).

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Re: [freenet-support] Probably a bug.....

2009-01-07 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Saturday 03 January 2009 21:39, cas200 wrote:
 Hello, I got this messages today:
 
 Probably a bug: please report: 1 peers forcibly disconnected due to not 
 acknowledging packets.
 
 1 of your peers are having severe problems (not acknowledging packets 
 even after 10 minutes). This is probably due to a bug in the code. 
 Please report it to us at the bug tracker at 
 https://bugs.freenetproject.org/ 
 http://127.0.0.1:/?_CHECKED_HTTP_=https://bugs.freenetproject.org/ 
 or to the support mailing list supp...@freenetproject.org. Please 
 include this message and what version of the node you are running. The 
 affected peers (you may not want to include this in your bug report if 
 they are darknet peers) are:
 
 * 76.29.179.6:3728
 
 perhaps you know about it.
 
 Thank you for reading

Thanks. This is unfortunately a known issue, and we will look into it 
eventually, but it is not as serious as it was before Christmas so is not so 
urgent.
 
 Beliar


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Re: [freenet-support] freenet stops running

2009-01-07 Thread Dennis Nezic
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 10:42:56 +0100, bqz69 bq...@telia.com wrote:

 On Wednesday 07 January 2009 02:53:19 Dennis Nezic wrote:
  On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:30:55 +0100, user1 bq...@telia.com wrote:
   On Tuesday 06 January 2009 23:19:43 Dennis Nezic wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:55:42 +0100, user1 bq...@telia.com
wrote:
 Now my freenet on my fit-pc with 256 mb ram seems to be
 running steady (has been running for the last couple of days).

 I did following:
 [cut]
   
That's an ugly[1] hack :). And, doesn't your run.sh start a
wrapper
   
Though, we have similar physical ram space--I have a bit more,
384MB. (Why is 100M not enough again?) Do you have other big
memory users running on your system?
  
   No
 
 Even if an ugly hack, my freenet is running, and that was my purpose.
 
 I have  a wrapper log, yes.

Yes, but, almost the only purpose for using a wrapper is to do
precisely that :)--to restart the node if it ever crashes :). I wonder
why the wrapper isn't doing this. Are you sure the wrapper is
running? :) (maybe your wrapper.log is old).
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Re: [freenet-support] freenet stops running

2009-01-07 Thread bqz69
On Wednesday 07 January 2009 16:32:17 Dennis Nezic wrote:
 On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 10:42:56 +0100, bqz69 bq...@telia.com wrote:
  On Wednesday 07 January 2009 02:53:19 Dennis Nezic wrote:
   On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:30:55 +0100, user1 bq...@telia.com wrote:
On Tuesday 06 January 2009 23:19:43 Dennis Nezic wrote:
 On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:55:42 +0100, user1 bq...@telia.com


  I have  a wrapper log, yes.

 Yes, but, almost the only purpose for using a wrapper is to do
 precisely that :)--to restart the node if it ever crashes :). I wonder
 why the wrapper isn't doing this. Are you sure the wrapper is
 running? :) (maybe your wrapper.log is old).

No:

wrapper.log 6. jan. 2009

wrapper.log.1   3. jan. 2009
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Re: [freenet-support] freenet stops running

2009-01-07 Thread Dennis Nezic
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:46:52 +0100, bqz69 bq...@telia.com wrote:

 On Wednesday 07 January 2009 16:32:17 Dennis Nezic wrote:
  On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 10:42:56 +0100, bqz69 bq...@telia.com wrote:
   On Wednesday 07 January 2009 02:53:19 Dennis Nezic wrote:
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:30:55 +0100, user1 bq...@telia.com
wrote:
 On Tuesday 06 January 2009 23:19:43 Dennis Nezic wrote:
  On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:55:42 +0100, user1 bq...@telia.com
 
 
   I have  a wrapper log, yes.
 
  Yes, but, almost the only purpose for using a wrapper is to do
  precisely that :)--to restart the node if it ever crashes :). I
  wonder why the wrapper isn't doing this. Are you sure the wrapper is
  running? :) (maybe your wrapper.log is old).
 
 No:
 
 wrapper.log   6. jan. 2009
 
 wrapper.log.1 3. jan. 2009

Try checking in those files for any useful information. Ie. lines
prefixed with wrapper. Like the version of the wrapper, and also what
it says before it gets restarted. Does it detect that freenet or the
jvm have crashed? Maybe the wrapper itself crashed :). Do you have the
most recent freenet-ext.jar?
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Re: [freenet-support] freenet stops running

2009-01-07 Thread bqz69
On Wednesday 07 January 2009 16:56:16 Dennis Nezic wrote:
 Do you have the
 most recent freenet-ext.jar?
Yes

Here is my newest wrapper log from 6. jan 2009:

http://www.minihowto.org/6/wrapper.log


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Re: [freenet-support] freenet stops running

2009-01-07 Thread Dennis Nezic
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 17:22:52 +0100, bqz69 bq...@telia.com wrote:

 On Wednesday 07 January 2009 16:56:16 Dennis Nezic wrote:
  Do you have the
  most recent freenet-ext.jar?
 Yes
 
 Here is my newest wrapper log from 6. jan 2009:
 
 http://www.minihowto.org/6/wrapper.log

Toad, this problem, of hanging jvms appears to be quite popular!
Bqz69's node is also crashing almost every day--like my node used to
(when I had it running in a wrapper)--and like others have also
reported :\.

Running out of a wrapper seems to make the crashes less frequent.

But, Bzq69, your wrapper does seem to be restarting freenet properly.
Are you sure you need another wrapper around that wrapper? :)
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Re: [freenet-support] freenet stops running

2009-01-07 Thread bqz69

 But, Bzq69, your wrapper does seem to be restarting freenet properly.
 Are you sure you need another wrapper around that wrapper? :)

I do not know much about the freenet internals, so I do not know.


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Re: [freenet-support] freenet stops running

2009-01-07 Thread bqz69
On Wednesday 07 January 2009 18:49:57 bqz69 wrote:
  But, Bzq69, your wrapper does seem to be restarting freenet properly.
  Are you sure you need another wrapper around that wrapper? :)

My freenet stopped again, in spite of my .crontab, here is the wrapper.log

http://www.minihowto.org/6/wrapper.log_7jan2009
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