Re: [freenet-support] VPN

2015-03-27 Thread Bert Massop
Whether a little extra latency matters depends on how much this extra
latency really is. Considering a request in Freenet may require 10
nodes to be traversed, latency adds up quickly, reducing already low
network capacity for everyone.
I don't expect much impact from a tiny extra bit of latency, e.g. if you
live in Paris and your VPN provider were located in Amsterdam. Paris -
Singapore however would probably a bad idea and is definitely not
something I would recommend for Freenet.

A properly configured VPN connection transparently connects your
computer to the public internet through an ISP that does not actually
provide a cable into your home. That's all to it.
In general, Freenet should work both functionally and securely over such
a connection. The only downsides would be the (already mentioned)
additional delay, as well as introducing yet another party that is able
to monitor your internet traffic under a jurisdiction that does not
necessarily have to be equal to yours.

Here, properly configured means that at least the following criteria
will have to be fulfilled (I may be missing some though):
- Your machine should ideally be able to reliably determine its external IP
- Your external IP should be relatively stable
- Incoming UDP packets on the relevant ports must not be blocked, i.e.
ports must be forwarded wherever necessary
- Your average ping stays well below ~700 ms (but lower is definitely
preferable!)

In case your VPN connection comes with a dedicated IP, all security
caveats for computers connecting to the internet directly (i.e. not
behind a NAT router) may of course apply.

-- Bert

On 27-03-15 15:45, Eric Chadbourne wrote:
 It should be fine to use a vpn, though I have not tried it.  I wonder what 
 the downsides would be?  A little extra latency shouldn’t matter.  If you 
 leave it on all the time maybe bandwidth costs?
 
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 http://Nonprofit-CRM.org/
 
 
 On Mar 27, 2015, at 6:49 AM, John Verney johnver...@outlook.com wrote:

 Hello all,

 Simple question -

 Is it safe and secure to run freenet through a VPN? I use one of the major 
 VPN services. 

 Thanks



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Re: [freenet-support] VPN

2015-03-27 Thread ronald williams
   I assume you tech support for freeness? I have a problem that maybe you can 
help with, running a Mac  OSX 10.10.2  confirmed install of Java 40 , when 
attempting to open freenet a message appears can not connect to server 
127.0.0.1  Any suggestions?  Thanks
 On Mar 27, 2015, at 7:45 AM, Eric Chadbourne eric.chadbou...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 It should be fine to use a vpn, though I have not tried it.  I wonder what 
 the downsides would be?  A little extra latency shouldn’t matter.  If you 
 leave it on all the time maybe bandwidth costs?
 
 —
 Eric Chadbourne
 http://Nonprofit-CRM.org/
 
 
 On Mar 27, 2015, at 6:49 AM, John Verney johnver...@outlook.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 Simple question -
 
 Is it safe and secure to run freenet through a VPN? I use one of the major 
 VPN services. 
 
 Thanks
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Re: [freenet-support] VPN

2015-03-27 Thread Eric Chadbourne
It should be fine to use a vpn, though I have not tried it.  I wonder what the 
downsides would be?  A little extra latency shouldn’t matter.  If you leave it 
on all the time maybe bandwidth costs?

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http://Nonprofit-CRM.org/


 On Mar 27, 2015, at 6:49 AM, John Verney johnver...@outlook.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 Simple question -
 
 Is it safe and secure to run freenet through a VPN? I use one of the major 
 VPN services. 
 
 Thanks
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Re: [freenet-support] VPN

2015-03-27 Thread Dsoslglece

Le 27/03/2015 15:45, Eric Chadbourne a écrit :

It should be fine to use a vpn, though I have not tried it.  I wonder what the 
downsides would be?  A little extra latency shouldn’t matter.  If you leave it 
on all the time maybe bandwidth costs?

—
Eric Chadbourne
http://Nonprofit-CRM.org/



On Mar 27, 2015, at 6:49 AM, John Verney johnver...@outlook.com wrote:

Hello all,

Simple question -

Is it safe and secure to run freenet through a VPN? I use one of the major VPN 
services.

Thanks
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Hello,
I didn't give any data about the vpn, but I'm using one with freenet 
(with everything,

only from time to time changing my location), and it works perfectly.
of course, depending on what vpn, the bandwidth may be smaller,
I for my part am using proxpn, that has an unlimited bandwidth, no speed 
limit,
one can also choose the port(s), including for mails (in and out) and 
adsl phone,

on about a dozen places (Seattle, NY, Singapoor, Amsterdam, Sweden…)
It costs me about 6.5 $ per month.


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[freenet-support] Freenet on OS X. Was: VPN

2015-03-27 Thread Eric Chadbourne
Hi Ronald,

I’ve just started playing around with Freenet on OS X.  It works fine for me so 
far if you use the defaults.

Install the JDK (not the JRE) and install the Freenet jar file (not the web 
install).  Should work fine.  I use terminal to start and stop freenet as 
needed.  The current indicator applet is being updated by the dev.

I assume the error you are getting is because the JRE doesn’t update the java 
path and something you have installed is looking for the path and the default 
OS X setting is to give you that pop up.  I suggest you remove the remove the 
JRE and use the JDK.

Hope that helps.

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 On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Dsoslglece sirapo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Le 27/03/2015 17:50, ronald williams a écrit :
I assume you tech support for freeness? I have a problem that maybe you 
 can help with, running a Mac  OSX 10.10.2  confirmed install of Java 40 , 
 when attempting to open freenet a message appears can not connect to server 
 127.0.0.1  Any suggestions?  Thanks
 
 Well, this is exactly doing the same to me, for quite a few months, saying 
 it'll stop someday if no java update is made… just waiting to see if maybe 
 it's a misreadding of freenet, since being also on Yosemite, Apple makes 
 automatically the java updates and I've got the latest : java 8 rev 40
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Re: [freenet-support] VPN

2015-03-27 Thread Dsoslglece

Le 27/03/2015 17:50, ronald williams a écrit :

I assume you tech support for freeness? I have a problem that maybe you can 
help with, running a Mac  OSX 10.10.2  confirmed install of Java 40 , when 
attempting to open freenet a message appears can not connect to server 
127.0.0.1  Any suggestions?  Thanks
Well, this is exactly doing the same to me, for quite a few months, 
saying it'll stop someday if no java update is made… just waiting to see 
if maybe it's a misreadding of freenet, since being also on Yosemite, 
Apple makes automatically the java updates and I've got the latest : 
java 8 rev 40
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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet on OS X. Was: VPN

2015-03-27 Thread ronald williams
   Thank you for responding but I have a dumb question, what is JDK and what is 
JRE? 
 On Mar 27, 2015, at 11:52 AM, Eric Chadbourne eric.chadbou...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Ronald,
 
 I’ve just started playing around with Freenet on OS X.  It works fine for me 
 so far if you use the defaults.
 
 Install the JDK (not the JRE) and install the Freenet jar file (not the web 
 install).  Should work fine.  I use terminal to start and stop freenet as 
 needed.  The current indicator applet is being updated by the dev.
 
 I assume the error you are getting is because the JRE doesn’t update the java 
 path and something you have installed is looking for the path and the default 
 OS X setting is to give you that pop up.  I suggest you remove the remove the 
 JRE and use the JDK.
 
 Hope that helps.
 
 —
 Eric Chadbourne
 http://Nonprofit-CRM.org/
 
 
 On Mar 27, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Dsoslglece sirapo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Le 27/03/2015 17:50, ronald williams a écrit :
   I assume you tech support for freeness? I have a problem that maybe you 
 can help with, running a Mac  OSX 10.10.2  confirmed install of Java 40 , 
 when attempting to open freenet a message appears can not connect to server 
 127.0.0.1  Any suggestions?  Thanks
 
 Well, this is exactly doing the same to me, for quite a few months, saying 
 it'll stop someday if no java update is made… just waiting to see if maybe 
 it's a misreadding of freenet, since being also on Yosemite, Apple makes 
 automatically the java updates and I've got the latest : java 8 rev 40
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