[freenet-support] Binaries and MD5 hash
I would like to investigate using freenet or a variant hacked by me to keep some of my Pirate Party communications at least nominally secure. I downloaded a binary installation file from the site, but was unable to find an MD5 hash associated with it. File listing (in Windows) is as following: 10/26/2015 11:18 PM18,053,944 FreenetInstaller-1470.exe The MD5 hash is d47b1494564e98a5d772477fb8967828 as calculated by my own MD5 utility and checked by onlinemd5.com (D47B1494564E98A5D772477FB8967828). I found a hash for a file with the same name on another site, but that hash differs from the one from my file. Is that the correct md5 hash for that file? Do you have some other way of validating a file or is perhaps the typical way of getting the files on freenet itself? Please advise. Bob Trower Pirate Party of Canada Political Council P.S. If, for some reason, you don't have an md5 utility already, my MD5 code is here: http://toogles.sourceforge.net/md5.php -- it is vanilla ANSI C and should compile anywhere with any reasonably modern C compiler. One caveat: It assumes little-endian format such as is found on Intel/AMD x86 CPUs. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 49, Issue 10
well, i'm free right now, although at a clients by myself. What is your number? Bob 2009/10/11 support-requ...@freenetproject.org Send Support mailing list submissions to support@freenetproject.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to support-requ...@freenetproject.org You can reach the person managing the list at support-ow...@freenetproject.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Support digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: No subject (Dsoslglece) 2. Re: No subject (Dsoslglece) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:31:49 +0200 From: Dsoslglece dsoslgl...@orange.fr Subject: Re: [freenet-support] No subject To: support@freenetproject.org Message-ID: 4ad197f5.20...@orange.fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 l...@hushmail.com a ?crit : The viewer can see, as did I, that ?Fetch over Freenet is checked AND that it says, ?This is untraceable, safe?.? NOW, untraceable means anonymous. The other choice available is to, ?Fetch over the web from Freenet?s central servers?and is ?TRACEABLE?, meaning NOT ANONYMOUS! The meaning is : ?Fetch over Freenet, this is untraceable, safe?.: To download the plugin, you use freenet (of course this is safe). ?Fetch over the web from Freenet?s central servers?and is ?TRACEABLE To download the plugin, you go out of freenet and from the web, in the big dark forest, using your browser and all nude, you go to freenet's central servers. and this obviously is traceable and not safe, since you are not using freenet anymore... (of course, doing this, you still can use Tor, or jap for some protection) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://emu.freenetproject.org/pipermail/support/attachments/20091011/bf586d37/attachment.htm -- Message: 2 Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 11:08:43 +0200 From: Dsoslglece dsoslgl...@orange.fr Subject: Re: [freenet-support] No subject To: ev...@pobox.com, support@freenetproject.org Message-ID: 4ad1a09b.3070...@orange.fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Evan Daniel a ?crit : On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:13 PM, l...@hushmail.com wrote: Hello. I hope this is OK. It?s quite long. I wonder if anyone can help with this/these question/s-comment/s in the form of clarification. I hope it doesn?t seem too petty but I wonder if others go through the same confusion as I. On this page: http://127.0.0.1:/plugins/ one can go to: ?Load Official Plugin? The viewer can see, as did I, that ?Fetch over Freenet is checked AND that it says, ?This is untraceable, safe?.? NOW, untraceable means anonymous. The other choice available is to, ?Fetch over the web from Freenet?s central servers?and is ?TRACEABLE?, meaning NOT ANONYMOUS! (Freenet isn?t safe?) On this page: FREEMAIL-SETUP http://127.0.0.1:/freenet:u...@xog49gnltumtjjzj0fvzugdpo4hjusy2us GQkjE7NY4,EtUH5b9gGpp8JiY-Bm-Y9kHX1q-yDjD- 9oRzXn21O9k,AQACAAE/freemail/4/setup/index.html It clearly directs one method of using the same plugin page as my beginning comment above (Load Official Plugin), with the ?only? comment for that choice being that it is NOT ANONYMOUS! So, is one correct to assume that the first directive is false, misleading and/or has been tampered with (edited) by someone with bad intent? Or is it the second one? One point I am trying to make here is that this can cause some immediate doubt and confusion in someone new to Freenet. I am concerned because the world needs Freenet and Tor more than they might consciously know. I recently saw figures about the estimated number of users for both, and the numbers were very small. They are small enough that large arrays of computers, set around the world and networked, are capable of watching ALL nodes and gathering the data to be analyzed. Look at Tor. On the Network Map (of the world), there are nodes running in sequential order, and all these are located in the same place ? near the CIA in the US. Some of these sequential orders are showing up in other locations around the Tor network. I have found Freenet to be so frustrating and confusing to set up and use, that as I search the web for information that is clear and helpful, I keep coming across more comments from Users who are quitting the program. Now it does make sense to me, that with anonymity programs, the more using them, the better and more safely anonymous it is for all. But, it seems the numbers are dwindling. I don?t know. I have used Tor for about 4 years. I recently went to its Hidden Wiki and about one half of all its services were gone
[freenet-support] freenet newbie: wrapper warning message
Hi, I am new to Freenet. I have searched the archives but can find no clear answers to my questions. I am running Ubuntu 9.04, with a KDE desktop. I successfully almost installed Freenet from the webpage using the java installer, it only had one hiccup: when installing it reported : Enabling auto-start. Installing cron job to start Freenet on reboot... /home/bobs/Freenet/bin/install_autostart.sh: 3: [[: not found Installed cron job. But seems happy, and is running. Is the 'install_autostart.sh .. not found' anything to worry about? I also notice that when first starting, and in the wrapper.log file the following warning: Starting Freenet 0.7... STATUS | wrapper | 2009/10/11 23:27:19 | -- Wrapper Started as Daemon STATUS | wrapper | 2009/10/11 23:27:19 | Launching a JVM... INFO | jvm 1 | 2009/10/11 23:27:19 | WrapperManager: Initializing... INFO | jvm 1 | 2009/10/11 23:27:20 | WrapperManager: WARNING - The Wrapper jar file currently in use is version 3.3.1 INFO | jvm 1 | 2009/10/11 23:27:20 | WrapperManager: while the version of the Wrapper which launched this JVM is INFO | jvm 1 | 2009/10/11 23:27:20 | WrapperManager: 3.2.3. INFO | jvm 1 | 2009/10/11 23:27:20 | WrapperManager: The Wrapper may appear to work correctly but some features may INFO | jvm 1 | 2009/10/11 23:27:20 | WrapperManager: not function correctly. This configuration has not been tested INFO | jvm 1 | 2009/10/11 23:27:20 | WrapperManager: and is not supported. Is this anything to worry about? Or better still, is there a way to fix it? Many thanks ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
[freenet-support] freenet/jvm priority over linux system?
Hi, On 2008-02-04 13:45, Ermanno Baschiera wrote: > Hello, > I'm running my node on a Gentoo Linux machine. > You know... we gentooers sometimes have to compile updates and new > packages. Ok, we OFTEN have to compile stuff. :-) > During those compile sessions, my node pings higher and higher. Up to > 22sec! Also if there's heavy use of samba, my node gets slower. You should be able to address slowdown during emerges by setting PORTAGE_NICENESS to e.g. 15 in make.conf, see http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_nice_and_PORTAGE_NICENESS. You could also edit run.sh(?) so the java-launching line reads something like "nice -10 java (...)" if it still seems necessary. Bob __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com
Re: [freenet-support] freenet/jvm priority over linux system?
Hi, On 2008-02-04 13:45, Ermanno Baschiera wrote: Hello, I'm running my node on a Gentoo Linux machine. You know... we gentooers sometimes have to compile updates and new packages. Ok, we OFTEN have to compile stuff. :-) During those compile sessions, my node pings higher and higher. Up to 22sec! Also if there's heavy use of samba, my node gets slower. You should be able to address slowdown during emerges by setting PORTAGE_NICENESS to e.g. 15 in make.conf, see http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_nice_and_PORTAGE_NICENESS. You could also edit run.sh(?) so the java-launching line reads something like nice -10 java (...) if it still seems necessary. Bob __ Sent from Yahoo! Mail - a smarter inbox http://uk.mail.yahoo.com ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Unable to install in China
A C writes: Hi, > I am located in China, where access to Freenet downloads are blocked. I use a proxy so am able to download through that, but the installer does not include all of the files and tries to download those itself. This does not go through the proxy, so it is blocked. Which version of freenet are you trying to use, 0.5x or the 0.7 alpha? In the words of Matthew Toseland, lead developer, "using 0.5x in china isn't only a bad idea, it's impossible." It's a bad idea because it's fairly easy for a powerful adversary to harvest the network (build a list of all freenet nodes), and of course things like freenet are banned in China. I suppose it's impossible because they found a way to block it again e.g. by recognising session bytes. The 0.7 alpha is *NOT* safe yet for dissident-grade activities either. In darknet operation it should be better than 0.5 generally speaking provided your peers are trustworthy, BUT there are still considerable risks associated with using alpha software with various features not implemented yet e.g. MiTM attack resistance. Also the installer is not yet made with dissidents in mind, e.g. it automatically opens the project website at the end! > Is there a package that includes all of the necessary files for a simple install on windows? How about posting some instructions to help people like me install? How about a torrent seed for this build?Thanks. > At the moment such a thing does not exist. It is possible to make "offline" installers for 0.7 that include everything, which should happen at some point. Again though, I have to stress that anyone who uses alpha, unfinished anonymity software in a freedom-hostile country is taking a considerable risk. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Cannot configure (0.5)
Dashkal writes: > > Ok, strange thing > > This time I didn't kill freenet when it appeared to hang when asking me > to enter the port number. > > When I took the time to start this email, it eventually unhanged itself > and started to work. --snip for over-zealous gmane filter-- > 'freenet/support/CPUInformation/libjcpuid-x86-linux.so' loaded from resource > INFO: Optimized native BigInteger library > 'net/i2p/util/libjbigi-linux-athlon.so' loaded from resource > <<<--- This is where it hung --->>> > 62734 > listenPort [19934] Don't disclose your listenPort, since it can be used to identify your node with some degree of confidence :) I'd change it now if I were you. --snip for over-zealous gmane filter-- > tail -f freenet.log <<<--- My input to that $ prompt above --->>> > Apr 10, 2006 4:30:52 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): Starting > Freenet (Fred) 0.5 node, build #5106 on JVM Blackdown Java-Linux > Team:Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM:Blackdown-1.4.2-03 > <<<--- Hangs here --->>> > Apr 10, 2006 4:33:35 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): loading node > keys: node > Apr 10, 2006 4:33:35 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): Creating node > keys: node > <<<--- SNIP --->>> > > From there it appears to work. I am able to connect to the proxy port > as normal. Yeah, this is actually a known issue with 0.5 but it's supposed to be kind of fixed. I thought it was only people like with weird setups (blackdown 1.4.1 / sparc64) who still saw huge pauses. A similar problem seems to be affecting 0.7 judging by recent posts. What's actually happening is that the Yarrow PRNG is blocking whilst waiting for enough entropy to be collected, so that it can generate somewhat "strong" psuedo-random numbers (important to stop attacks on encryption.) If you have a true hardware RNG e.g. a VIA C7 processor or dedicated crypto card then IIRC it just reads /dev/hwrandom and off it goes, but most people don't. So it has to read /dev/urandom or /dev/random (forget which) which generate psuedo-random numbers based on unpredictable 'entropy' activity like mouse movements, keypresses, and hard disk activity. Therefore you should be able to speed it up by opening a text editor and mashing the keyboard randomly, waving the mouse around, doing disk searches etc. This is a bit daft but there's no real way around it, short of everyone buying proper RNGs. Other crypto apps like GPG have the same problem at key generation time and likewise ask you to type randomly / wave the mouse around. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Cannot configure (0.5)
Dashkal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok, strange thing This time I didn't kill freenet when it appeared to hang when asking me to enter the port number. When I took the time to start this email, it eventually unhanged itself and started to work. --snip for over-zealous gmane filter-- 'freenet/support/CPUInformation/libjcpuid-x86-linux.so' loaded from resource INFO: Optimized native BigInteger library 'net/i2p/util/libjbigi-linux-athlon.so' loaded from resource --- This is where it hung --- 62734 listenPort [19934] Don't disclose your listenPort, since it can be used to identify your node with some degree of confidence :) I'd change it now if I were you. --snip for over-zealous gmane filter-- tail -f freenet.log --- My input to that $ prompt above --- Apr 10, 2006 4:30:52 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): Starting Freenet (Fred) 0.5 node, build #5106 on JVM Blackdown Java-Linux Team:Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM:Blackdown-1.4.2-03 --- Hangs here --- Apr 10, 2006 4:33:35 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): loading node keys: node Apr 10, 2006 4:33:35 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): Creating node keys: node --- SNIP --- From there it appears to work. I am able to connect to the proxy port as normal. Yeah, this is actually a known issue with 0.5 but it's supposed to be kind of fixed. I thought it was only people like with weird setups (blackdown 1.4.1 / sparc64) who still saw huge pauses. A similar problem seems to be affecting 0.7 judging by recent posts. What's actually happening is that the Yarrow PRNG is blocking whilst waiting for enough entropy to be collected, so that it can generate somewhat strong psuedo-random numbers (important to stop attacks on encryption.) If you have a true hardware RNG e.g. a VIA C7 processor or dedicated crypto card then IIRC it just reads /dev/hwrandom and off it goes, but most people don't. So it has to read /dev/urandom or /dev/random (forget which) which generate psuedo-random numbers based on unpredictable 'entropy' activity like mouse movements, keypresses, and hard disk activity. Therefore you should be able to speed it up by opening a text editor and mashing the keyboard randomly, waving the mouse around, doing disk searches etc. This is a bit daft but there's no real way around it, short of everyone buying proper RNGs. Other crypto apps like GPG have the same problem at key generation time and likewise ask you to type randomly / wave the mouse around. Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Unable to install in China
A C [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I am located in China, where access to Freenet downloads are blocked. I use a proxy so am able to download through that, but the installer does not include all of the files and tries to download those itself. This does not go through the proxy, so it is blocked. Which version of freenet are you trying to use, 0.5x or the 0.7 alpha? In the words of Matthew Toseland, lead developer, using 0.5x in china isn't only a bad idea, it's impossible. It's a bad idea because it's fairly easy for a powerful adversary to harvest the network (build a list of all freenet nodes), and of course things like freenet are banned in China. I suppose it's impossible because they found a way to block it again e.g. by recognising session bytes. The 0.7 alpha is *NOT* safe yet for dissident-grade activities either. In darknet operation it should be better than 0.5 generally speaking provided your peers are trustworthy, BUT there are still considerable risks associated with using alpha software with various features not implemented yet e.g. MiTM attack resistance. Also the installer is not yet made with dissidents in mind, e.g. it automatically opens the project website at the end! Is there a package that includes all of the necessary files for a simple install on windows? How about posting some instructions to help people like me install? How about a torrent seed for this build?Thanks. At the moment such a thing does not exist. It is possible to make offline installers for 0.7 that include everything, which should happen at some point. Again though, I have to stress that anyone who uses alpha, unfinished anonymity software in a freedom-hostile country is taking a considerable risk. Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Cannot configure
Dashkal writes: > > For some reason, when running freenet for the first time, it reguses to > accept keyboard input. > > I am running gentoo 2006.0 (updated) > Sun JDK 1.5.0_06 > freenet-latest as of Sun, April 9th, 2006 > > The only strange thing in my setup is sun java is in /opt/jdk1.5.0_06 > however, JAVA_HOME and PATH both point there (I tried JDK_HOME as well > to no effect) Huh, that's weird. What does "java -version" at a console output? My guess would be that you need to use Gentoo's java-config tool (http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/java.xml) to select this as the user and/or system VM. > Is there any way to get it to spit out a default configuration file that > I can just edit by hand? It seems to run alright in the background, > just appears to have troubles with System.in Hmm, maybe. A default install on windows makes a freenet.ini something like the below. (No this isn't a running node, I was just testing the installer.) Make sure you change ipAddressOverride / node.name / tempDir / listenPort and only leave node.testnet.enabled=true if you don't mind Toad et al being able to inspect your node (i.e. no anonymity) for debugging purposes. node.ipAddressOverride=me.dyndns.org node.outputBandwidthLimit=15K node.swapRequestSendInterval=2000 node.tempDir=./temp-32788 node.storeSize=1G node.storeDir=. node.listenPort=1 node.name=MyFirstFreenetNode node.nodeDir=. node.downloadsDir=downloads node.testnet.enabled=true node.testnet.port=33788 fcp.enabled=true fcp.port=9481 logger.maxCachedLines=100k logger.enabled=false logger.dirname=logs logger.maxCachedBytes=10M logger.priority=MINOR logger.maxZippedLogsSize=1G logger.interval=5MINUTE fproxy.enabled=true fproxy.port= snmp.enabled=true End Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Cannot configure
Dashkal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For some reason, when running freenet for the first time, it reguses to accept keyboard input. I am running gentoo 2006.0 (updated) Sun JDK 1.5.0_06 freenet-latest as of Sun, April 9th, 2006 The only strange thing in my setup is sun java is in /opt/jdk1.5.0_06 however, JAVA_HOME and PATH both point there (I tried JDK_HOME as well to no effect) Huh, that's weird. What does java -version at a console output? My guess would be that you need to use Gentoo's java-config tool (http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/java.xml) to select this as the user and/or system VM. Is there any way to get it to spit out a default configuration file that I can just edit by hand? It seems to run alright in the background, just appears to have troubles with System.in Hmm, maybe. A default install on windows makes a freenet.ini something like the below. (No this isn't a running node, I was just testing the installer.) Make sure you change ipAddressOverride / node.name / tempDir / listenPort and only leave node.testnet.enabled=true if you don't mind Toad et al being able to inspect your node (i.e. no anonymity) for debugging purposes. node.ipAddressOverride=me.dyndns.org node.outputBandwidthLimit=15K node.swapRequestSendInterval=2000 node.tempDir=./temp-32788 node.storeSize=1G node.storeDir=. node.listenPort=1 node.name=MyFirstFreenetNode node.nodeDir=. node.downloadsDir=downloads node.testnet.enabled=true node.testnet.port=33788 fcp.enabled=true fcp.port=9481 logger.maxCachedLines=100k logger.enabled=false logger.dirname=logs logger.maxCachedBytes=10M logger.priority=MINOR logger.maxZippedLogsSize=1G logger.interval=5MINUTE fproxy.enabled=true fproxy.port= snmp.enabled=true End Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: WOW
Volodya writes: > > Kenneth Vestergaard wrote: > > hey just wated to know it world of warcraft i affected by freenet > > This sentence doesn't make sense. > Well, it does in that WoW is i)a network game and ii)fairly resource hungry. So freenet might affect its performance, just like running any other p2p program in the background might. Which version of freenet are you trying to run, 0.5x or the new 0.7 testing alpha? If you have high bandwidth limits then freenet *might* lag your WoW traffic, if this happens just reduce them. How to do this depends on which version of freenet you're running. As for general performance impact, it could be a problem depending on your spec, your game settings and what freenet version you're running. I hear the 0.7 alpha uses less resources than 0.5x. In particular you will probably need quite a lot of RAM to run a 0.5x node and WoW smoothly at the same time. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: WOW
Volodya [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kenneth Vestergaard wrote: hey just wated to know it world of warcraft i affected by freenet This sentence doesn't make sense. Well, it does in that WoW is i)a network game and ii)fairly resource hungry. So freenet might affect its performance, just like running any other p2p program in the background might. Which version of freenet are you trying to run, 0.5x or the new 0.7 testing alpha? If you have high bandwidth limits then freenet *might* lag your WoW traffic, if this happens just reduce them. How to do this depends on which version of freenet you're running. As for general performance impact, it could be a problem depending on your spec, your game settings and what freenet version you're running. I hear the 0.7 alpha uses less resources than 0.5x. In particular you will probably need quite a lot of RAM to run a 0.5x node and WoW smoothly at the same time. Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Problem starting Freenet
Evan Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I ran ./update.sh, and freenet failed to restart (no new version was downloaded -- btw, how do I tell when a new version is out?) Hmm, I don't understand how it ever worked (are you sure it did?) jvm 1|at java.lang.Thread.run() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) jvm 1| Caused by: java.security.NoSuchAlgorithmException: SHA-256 jvm 1|at java.security.MessageDigest.getInstance(java.lang.String) (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) jvm 1|at freenet.node.Node.readNodeFile(java.lang.String, freenet.crypt.RandomSource) (Unknown Source) --snip-- What does this mean? Do I have something misconfigured somehow? It means you're running a JVM that doesn't include a SHA-256 provider. The presence of libgcj makes me think you're using a Free Software one like gij or Kaffe, which is standard e.g. on Ubuntu. Your options are basically to install Sun Java (proprietary but faster, and possibly more compatible) or follow these instructions to work around it using GNU Crypto : http://wiki.freenetproject.org/Freenet0Point7withFreeVm Thanks! Evan Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Error in Stable version
Sam Przyswa writes: > > Hi, > > I installed the latest Freenet-stable on my Debian (Kubuntu) machine, > configure my freenet.conf as: --snip-- > at freenet.transport.AbstractSelectorLoop.loop() (Unknown Source) > at freenet.transport.WriteSelectorLoop.run() (Unknown Source) > at java.lang.Thread.run() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) --snip-- > What's wrong ? The use of "libgcj" indicates you're using some free JRE like Kaffe, which freenet 0.5x does not support. This is particularly likely with Ubuntu because it's very "pure" Free software only out of the box. The next version (0.7) should support such JVMs, since the current alpha code does, but at the moment they perform badly with freenet in comparison to Sun's JRE for reasons not currently known. Just to confirm, what does "java -version" output? You should be able to fix this by installing Sun (preferably) or Blackdown Java and making it the system default. Instructions here, multilined for gmane filter : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats #head-68565ae07a003332e82c9f23706638777396c249 Now freenet should manage to start and operate, although it will need a while to integrate into the network before it's really usable. Note that you will still see numerous errors and info messages in the console and/or error log, this is normal, 0.5 outputs a lot of debugging info. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Error in Stable version
Sam Przyswa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I installed the latest Freenet-stable on my Debian (Kubuntu) machine, configure my freenet.conf as: --snip-- at freenet.transport.AbstractSelectorLoop.loop() (Unknown Source) at freenet.transport.WriteSelectorLoop.run() (Unknown Source) at java.lang.Thread.run() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0) --snip-- What's wrong ? The use of libgcj indicates you're using some free JRE like Kaffe, which freenet 0.5x does not support. This is particularly likely with Ubuntu because it's very pure Free software only out of the box. The next version (0.7) should support such JVMs, since the current alpha code does, but at the moment they perform badly with freenet in comparison to Sun's JRE for reasons not currently known. Just to confirm, what does java -version output? You should be able to fix this by installing Sun (preferably) or Blackdown Java and making it the system default. Instructions here, multilined for gmane filter : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats #head-68565ae07a003332e82c9f23706638777396c249 Now freenet should manage to start and operate, although it will need a while to integrate into the network before it's really usable. Note that you will still see numerous errors and info messages in the console and/or error log, this is normal, 0.5 outputs a lot of debugging info. Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Loopback adapter is in ZoneAlarm's Trusted Zone.
Jimmy Betancourt writes: > > > Hi!Sorry if my english isn't good.I want to install Freenet and I will have it running all the time.I use ZoneAlarm and, by default, it puts the IP address 127.0.0.1 in the Trusted Zone. ZA calls that entry "Loopback adapter".Cause Freenet uses 127.0.0.1 as gateway, Is that setting in ZA a security risk if i use Freenet?Can that allow a hacker to take control of my PC?Can that compromise my anonymity?Thanks for your time. This is normal and not a problem. 127.0.0.1 (in fact any address starting 127.0.0 usually) means "this computer". So when your web browser connects to 127.0.0.1: it is not actually going over a network, it is talking directly to the local freenet server on your PC. This is why ZoneAlarm trusts such 'loopback' connections, a client on your computer connecting to a server also on your computer should not be anything to worry about. Freenet basically works like a local proxy. Programs like web browsers and Frost / FUQID etc all connect to it over the loopback (unless you run freenet and those programs on different computers), then Freenet connects to other freenet nodes to handle the requests. Something like this, assuming default ports : +-+ | LOCAL PC, loopback (127.0.0.1) |INTERNET | __ | | |Freenet node| | | || || / | Browser ---> | port | | FNP | / | ||-|---> Other Freenet | ||<| Nodes | Frost --+--> | port 8481 | | (Freenet | \ | ||| | Node | \ | FUQID --+`` | Protocol) | | | Random ports | etc + | |_| So freenet client programs connecting to your node on 127.0.0.1 is normal. You should be concerned however if they try to connect directly to a website or something without asking you, and ZoneAlarm will warn you about this. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Loopback adapter is in ZoneAlarm's Trusted Zone.
Jimmy Betancourt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi!Sorry if my english isn't good.I want to install Freenet and I will have it running all the time.I use ZoneAlarm and, by default, it puts the IP address 127.0.0.1 in the Trusted Zone. ZA calls that entry Loopback adapter.Cause Freenet uses 127.0.0.1 as gateway, Is that setting in ZA a security risk if i use Freenet?Can that allow a hacker to take control of my PC?Can that compromise my anonymity?Thanks for your time. This is normal and not a problem. 127.0.0.1 (in fact any address starting 127.0.0 usually) means this computer. So when your web browser connects to 127.0.0.1: it is not actually going over a network, it is talking directly to the local freenet server on your PC. This is why ZoneAlarm trusts such 'loopback' connections, a client on your computer connecting to a server also on your computer should not be anything to worry about. Freenet basically works like a local proxy. Programs like web browsers and Frost / FUQID etc all connect to it over the loopback (unless you run freenet and those programs on different computers), then Freenet connects to other freenet nodes to handle the requests. Something like this, assuming default ports : +-+ | LOCAL PC, loopback (127.0.0.1) |INTERNET | __ | | |Freenet node| | | || || / | Browser --- | port | | FNP | / | ||-|--- Other Freenet | ||| Nodes | Frost --+-- | port 8481 | | (Freenet | \ | ||| | Node | \ | FUQID --+`` | Protocol) | | | Random ports | etc + | |_| So freenet client programs connecting to your node on 127.0.0.1 is normal. You should be concerned however if they try to connect directly to a website or something without asking you, and ZoneAlarm will warn you about this. Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Re: Default JVM in Windows XP, setting JVM options
Ashton Vaz writes: > -- snip -- > That's just the problem. I have 512MB of RAM and with various > applications running concurrently [Palm Desktop, Thunderbird, Mozilla, > jEdit, Apache HTTP, Sun J2EE RI, MySQL, I2P, Tor, Gaim, GoogleTalk, > Prime95, WorldCommunityGrid, BOINC, electricsheep, etc.] there's no more > left to hand over to Freenet. All the applications were well-behaved > until Freenet got installed - now my machine is a *turtle*. The use of > 1.5 however is a huge improvement. Uh, do you really need stuff like Prime95 running? Most people only use that as a system stress test ... unfortunately 0.5x does use considerable resources. You can tune it somewhat though. Things to try : - Set outputBandwidthLimit and inputBandwidthLimit (freenet.ini) if you haven't already, if you have you might need to reduce them. - Reduce maximumThreads, this should have significant impact. - JRE flags, particularly -server as you note and -XX:+AggressiveHeap. Yes I know, afaik the launcher can't pass them to the freenet java instance yet :/ However there is a crappy workaround I forgot about before, you can launch from a batch instead of freenet.exe and thereby pass arbitrary JRE arguments. this means you don't get the systray bunny but other than that it should work. Something like this : http://wikiserver.freenethelp.org:14741/MaxDirectMemorySize Alternatively the Java service wrapper can probably do this (end of post.) More esoteric things like -XX:-UseTLAB, -XX:+UseBoundThreads and -XX:+UseThreadPriorities may also help. -XX:MaxDirectMemorySize is set by default on *nix, I can't remember if the windows launcher does so but apparently the benefits can be significant so try setting it (to less than -Xmx.) Finally setting -Xms and -Xmx is advisable. Some like to set them to the same value to reduce reallocation overhead but this isn't really appropriate for a desktop situation like yours. -- snip -- > starts up the 1.5 version of the apps. Could my Windows registry be > corrupted? What keys' existence should I check for? > > The paths are as follows > Java 1.5 JDK: C:\java\se\sdk\1.5.0_05\ > Java 1.5 JRE: C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_05\ > Java 1.4 JDK: C:\java\se\sdk\1.4.2_09\ > Java 1.4 JRE: C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.2_09\ The install script basically looks for 1.4 and 1.5 JRE and JDK keys in the registry. This code is a tad inelegant since NSI only allows for IF/THEN/GOTO logic. Presumably it doesn't correctly handle the uncommon case of having both JREs and JDKs for 1.4 and 1.5. > >Hopefully the wininstaller can be dropped for the proposed amazing java thing maintained in core by the > time 1.6 is mainstream ;) > > > I'm curious, what amazing java thing? The wininstaller and associated programs have suffered from neglect because most of the serious freenet developers run Linux and don't do windows coding. A while ago things got bad enough (e.g. sourceforge change made installer apparently hang for ages) that they even accepted a bunch of patches from me :) For 0.7 it's proposed to make an installer in Java and move config stuff that helper programs like NodeConfig currently have to do into fproxy. The effect of this should be that they're maintained by Real Programmers(tm), changing common config options for the user is not unlike about:config in firefox, and the windows exe installer can become a simple wrapper to launch the installer jar / install Java if neccessary. -- snip -- > A related question: Since the windows launcher can't pass options to > the JVM, does anyone know if there is a service wrapper (for Windows XP) > available for Java applications? I can then configure the service > wrapper with the necessary JVM options & have freenet run 24/7 as a > Windows service on all workstations under my control? This should be possible, there's a specialised Java service wrapper which seems to be recommended : http://wrapper.tanukisoftware.org/doc/english/introduction.html http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,32068,00.html Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Re: Default JVM in Windows XP, setting JVM options
Ashton Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -- snip -- That's just the problem. I have 512MB of RAM and with various applications running concurrently [Palm Desktop, Thunderbird, Mozilla, jEdit, Apache HTTP, Sun J2EE RI, MySQL, I2P, Tor, Gaim, GoogleTalk, Prime95, WorldCommunityGrid, BOINC, electricsheep, etc.] there's no more left to hand over to Freenet. All the applications were well-behaved until Freenet got installed - now my machine is a *turtle*. The use of 1.5 however is a huge improvement. Uh, do you really need stuff like Prime95 running? Most people only use that as a system stress test ... unfortunately 0.5x does use considerable resources. You can tune it somewhat though. Things to try : - Set outputBandwidthLimit and inputBandwidthLimit (freenet.ini) if you haven't already, if you have you might need to reduce them. - Reduce maximumThreads, this should have significant impact. - JRE flags, particularly -server as you note and -XX:+AggressiveHeap. Yes I know, afaik the launcher can't pass them to the freenet java instance yet :/ However there is a crappy workaround I forgot about before, you can launch from a batch instead of freenet.exe and thereby pass arbitrary JRE arguments. this means you don't get the systray bunny but other than that it should work. Something like this : http://wikiserver.freenethelp.org:14741/MaxDirectMemorySize Alternatively the Java service wrapper can probably do this (end of post.) More esoteric things like -XX:-UseTLAB, -XX:+UseBoundThreads and -XX:+UseThreadPriorities may also help. -XX:MaxDirectMemorySize is set by default on *nix, I can't remember if the windows launcher does so but apparently the benefits can be significant so try setting it (to less than -Xmx.) Finally setting -Xms and -Xmx is advisable. Some like to set them to the same value to reduce reallocation overhead but this isn't really appropriate for a desktop situation like yours. -- snip -- starts up the 1.5 version of the apps. Could my Windows registry be corrupted? What keys' existence should I check for? The paths are as follows Java 1.5 JDK: C:\java\se\sdk\1.5.0_05\ Java 1.5 JRE: C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_05\ Java 1.4 JDK: C:\java\se\sdk\1.4.2_09\ Java 1.4 JRE: C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.2_09\ The install script basically looks for 1.4 and 1.5 JRE and JDK keys in the registry. This code is a tad inelegant since NSI only allows for IF/THEN/GOTO logic. Presumably it doesn't correctly handle the uncommon case of having both JREs and JDKs for 1.4 and 1.5. Hopefully the wininstaller can be dropped for the proposed amazing java thing maintained in core by the time 1.6 is mainstream ;) I'm curious, what amazing java thing? The wininstaller and associated programs have suffered from neglect because most of the serious freenet developers run Linux and don't do windows coding. A while ago things got bad enough (e.g. sourceforge change made installer apparently hang for ages) that they even accepted a bunch of patches from me :) For 0.7 it's proposed to make an installer in Java and move config stuff that helper programs like NodeConfig currently have to do into fproxy. The effect of this should be that they're maintained by Real Programmers(tm), changing common config options for the user is not unlike about:config in firefox, and the windows exe installer can become a simple wrapper to launch the installer jar / install Java if neccessary. -- snip -- A related question: Since the windows launcher can't pass options to the JVM, does anyone know if there is a service wrapper (for Windows XP) available for Java applications? I can then configure the service wrapper with the necessary JVM options have freenet run 24/7 as a Windows service on all workstations under my control? This should be possible, there's a specialised Java service wrapper which seems to be recommended : http://wrapper.tanukisoftware.org/doc/english/introduction.html http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,32068,00.html Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Default JVM in Windows XP, setting JVM options
Juiceman writes: > > On 2/6/06, Ashton Vaz wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I recently installed Freenet Build 5106 on a Windows XP SP2 machine > > via the freenet installer. After doing so, Freenet worked well with one > > exception. It is a resource hog - both in terms of memory as well as > > processor time. I found this puzzling as all other large Java > > applications that I run - Sun J2EE RI, Jboss, Azureus, jEdit, etc. are > > blazingly fast with the Java 1.5 JRE versus the Java 1.4 JRE. Freenet 0.5x (current "stable") uses a LOT of threads, and has well known performance issues. The current development version (pre-alpha 0.7) is mostly a complete redesign, which there is reason to hope will ultimately perform better in addition to allowing various important new bits of functionality. Try increasing the maximum heap via the JavaMem line in Flaunch.ini to e.g. "JavaMem=256" for 256 MB maximum, this should help somewhat. (Java's default gc likes to wait till it has almost no heap left before it bothers to collect, at which point it can thrash and do so very slowly.) > > I have > > both installed on my system and was surprised (after looking at the > > Environment page under localhost:) that the installer selected the > > 1.4 JRE by default. Why is that? Shouldn't it prefer the 1.5 JRE by > > default? Not only should it, it's supposed to :( Can you please post exactly what versions of 1.4 / 1.5 you have installed? > > (...) Of course, in the future this will have to be changed > > to 1.6 first, then 1.5 & finally 1.4. Hopefully the wininstaller can be dropped for the proposed amazing java thing maintained in core by the time 1.6 is mainstream ;) -- snip -- > > 2) Is it possible to pass options to the JVM (e.g. AggressiveHeap, > > DisableExplicitGC, server, etc.) via the system tray icon? If so, how? > > By default the 1.5 & 1.4 JREs don't use the -server option or other > > beneficial options. Hence Fred doesn't benefit from the aggressive > > server profiling of the JVM. A long running application like Fred would > > definitely benefit from the -server option at least. Good point, Fred does benefit from -server in my experience but at the cost of more memory. At the moment I don't believe it's possible to directly pass arguments to the windows launcher, a workaround would be to put the flags in the default java control panel options but obviously they'd then apply to any application using that JRE. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Default JVM in Windows XP, setting JVM options
Juiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 2/6/06, Ashton Vaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I recently installed Freenet Build 5106 on a Windows XP SP2 machine via the freenet installer. After doing so, Freenet worked well with one exception. It is a resource hog - both in terms of memory as well as processor time. I found this puzzling as all other large Java applications that I run - Sun J2EE RI, Jboss, Azureus, jEdit, etc. are blazingly fast with the Java 1.5 JRE versus the Java 1.4 JRE. Freenet 0.5x (current stable) uses a LOT of threads, and has well known performance issues. The current development version (pre-alpha 0.7) is mostly a complete redesign, which there is reason to hope will ultimately perform better in addition to allowing various important new bits of functionality. Try increasing the maximum heap via the JavaMem line in Flaunch.ini to e.g. JavaMem=256 for 256 MB maximum, this should help somewhat. (Java's default gc likes to wait till it has almost no heap left before it bothers to collect, at which point it can thrash and do so very slowly.) I have both installed on my system and was surprised (after looking at the Environment page under localhost:) that the installer selected the 1.4 JRE by default. Why is that? Shouldn't it prefer the 1.5 JRE by default? Not only should it, it's supposed to :( Can you please post exactly what versions of 1.4 / 1.5 you have installed? (...) Of course, in the future this will have to be changed to 1.6 first, then 1.5 finally 1.4. Hopefully the wininstaller can be dropped for the proposed amazing java thing maintained in core by the time 1.6 is mainstream ;) -- snip -- 2) Is it possible to pass options to the JVM (e.g. AggressiveHeap, DisableExplicitGC, server, etc.) via the system tray icon? If so, how? By default the 1.5 1.4 JREs don't use the -server option or other beneficial options. Hence Fred doesn't benefit from the aggressive server profiling of the JVM. A long running application like Fred would definitely benefit from the -server option at least. Good point, Fred does benefit from -server in my experience but at the cost of more memory. At the moment I don't believe it's possible to directly pass arguments to the windows launcher, a workaround would be to put the flags in the default java control panel options but obviously they'd then apply to any application using that JRE. Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Where do I download?
writes: > > I click on the download link and get a error message saying the page can't > be found. Does this mean The Freenet > Project failed? Umm, no ... http://freenetproject.org/index.php?page=download should work. If it doesn't it's proabably a temporary glitch, just try again. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Where do I download?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I click on the download link and get a error message saying the page can't be found. Does this mean The Freenet Project failed? Umm, no ... http://freenetproject.org/index.php?page=download should work. If it doesn't it's proabably a temporary glitch, just try again. Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Increasingly harddisk usage?
sky writes: > > Matthew Toseland ...> writes: > > > > > Probably freenet. Was the log file very large? > > > > In 0.7 this will happen less because we automatically delete logfiles... > > > That could be... > For the time being it really is a pain in the ass, while I would like to run > freenet as long as possible for making the nodes feel comfortable. This > logging keeps me from doing that. > I guess I could try to stop logging, or reduce it to a minimum. Hopefully > this is possible. It is ... set logLevel=Error to reduce logging, and/or logFile=NO to disable logging to file altogether (it will log to standard output instead, i.e. the console.) Remember to remove the "%" comment character at the start of the lines or the changes won't take effect. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Increasingly harddisk usage?
sky [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Matthew Toseland toad at ... writes: Probably freenet. Was the log file very large? In 0.7 this will happen less because we automatically delete logfiles... That could be... For the time being it really is a pain in the ass, while I would like to run freenet as long as possible for making the nodes feel comfortable. This logging keeps me from doing that. I guess I could try to stop logging, or reduce it to a minimum. Hopefully this is possible. It is ... set logLevel=Error to reduce logging, and/or logFile=NO to disable logging to file altogether (it will log to standard output instead, i.e. the console.) Remember to remove the % comment character at the start of the lines or the changes won't take effect. Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Freenet daemon dies
Harrison Smith writes: > > Harrison Smith ...> writes: > > > No luck. I fiddled with the -Xmx option; I even downgraded to jre 1.4.2 > > blackdown - but it still randomly crashes without explanation. I didn't any > > hs_err_pid_ files, either. If you want to see any of my logs, just tell -- snip -- > java.io.IOException: Attempt to use a released TempFileBucket: /root/f > \reenet/store/temp/tbf_11b51af > at freenet.support.SpyOutputStream.checkValid(SpyOutputStream > \.java:29) > at freenet.support.SpyOutputStream.(SpyOutputStream.java -- snip -- I don't know why this happens, but it has been reported before. If these errors occur immediately before/during the screwup than they presumably indicate it's the problem. Unfortunately if it's a bug it's unlikely to get fixed because development is happening on 0.7 ... You could try deleting the "index" file in the store/ directory, which will make freenet rebuild it. Actually it should be better to set "useDSIndex=false" in freenet.conf, which is a good performance idea for permanent/semi-permanent nodes anyway because it causes less CPU usage in the long run at the cost of longer startup times. I don't know if this will solve this problem though :-/ Oh, and Sun's JRE is recommended over Blackdown's generally speaking ... I know they're sort of derived from the same codebase but Sun's is more up to date and has bugfixes they don't bother telling the Blackdown people about (it's a pretty stupid arrangement really.) Bob
[freenet-support] Re: support request
danilo salieri writes: > > > Hi there again and thanks to Martin for support. > Problem update: after all I got all my files in a mess and I decided to > uninstall and run everything from the very start (sigh!) but after a few > days AGAIN I ran into the same problem: Freenet application is not able to > boot, and this time the logfile is: > freenet.fs.dir.DirectoryException: Clock skew detected, datastore file > 'store\95\1-b38bb037f52115373113cee29711652f7a7b41260f0203' has a last > modified time which is 868288 seconds into the future > at freenet.fs.dir.NativeFSDirectory.verifyList(NativeFSDirectory.java:1950) > at freenet.fs.dir.NativeFSDirectory.(NativeFSDirectory.java:908) > at freenet.node.Main.main(Main.java:611) > I tried to do what Martin said lat time but nothing happens. This time I > absolutely don't know what it comes from, any hint would be great (I don't > want to restart everything again!!) along with some explication (a bit into > technical would be ok), I'm getting kind of angry (with myself oc :'( ). > Many thanks! > Somehow the timestamps on one or more files on your datastore have gone screwy, or your clock has gone back in time a lot, such that they appear to freenet to exist about 10 days in the future. Freenet cares about file timestamps, for some reason :) The Node Reference Status page displays stats on file access times, but I would hope there is a more important reason to do with datastore specialisation or something given that this is a fatal error. Devs? Is your clock right? On XP it probably is, more or less, because the default install runs an NTP service (Network Time Protocol) that synchronises with a microsoft server once a week. Maybe you turned it off though. This seems unlikely to be the problem for such a case of apparent large sudden change, but it's good practice to help avoid it. Also it's a good idea to make it use a more geographically local time server for better accuracy. See the XP instructions at : http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robin.d.h.walker/cmtips/timesync.html Use a server from here that is in the "IT" ISO domain (well assuming you really are in Italy and not just posting from an .it :) http://ntp.isc.org/bin/view/Servers/StratumTwoTimeServers You should be able to fix the file timestamp by renaming it to something else, then renaming back to its original name. I *think* the following should work ... - Open command prompt - cd "c:\Program Files\Freenet" (or wherever you installed it) - rename store\95\1-b38bb037f52115373113cee29711652f7a7b41260f0203 tmp - rename store\95\tmp 1-b38bb037f52115373113cee29711652f7a7b41260f0203 This will change the last modified date to the present and freenet should now be able to start. Unless there are many files like this :/ On *nix you could do a recursive touch on the whole store but AFAIK windows has no such functionality built in. Hope that helps, Bob
[freenet-support] Re: support request
danilo salieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi there again and thanks to Martin for support. Problem update: after all I got all my files in a mess and I decided to uninstall and run everything from the very start (sigh!) but after a few days AGAIN I ran into the same problem: Freenet application is not able to boot, and this time the logfile is: freenet.fs.dir.DirectoryException: Clock skew detected, datastore file 'store\95\1-b38bb037f52115373113cee29711652f7a7b41260f0203' has a last modified time which is 868288 seconds into the future at freenet.fs.dir.NativeFSDirectory.verifyList(NativeFSDirectory.java:1950) at freenet.fs.dir.NativeFSDirectory.init(NativeFSDirectory.java:908) at freenet.node.Main.main(Main.java:611) I tried to do what Martin said lat time but nothing happens. This time I absolutely don't know what it comes from, any hint would be great (I don't want to restart everything again!!) along with some explication (a bit into technical would be ok), I'm getting kind of angry (with myself oc :'( ). Many thanks! Somehow the timestamps on one or more files on your datastore have gone screwy, or your clock has gone back in time a lot, such that they appear to freenet to exist about 10 days in the future. Freenet cares about file timestamps, for some reason :) The Node Reference Status page displays stats on file access times, but I would hope there is a more important reason to do with datastore specialisation or something given that this is a fatal error. Devs? Is your clock right? On XP it probably is, more or less, because the default install runs an NTP service (Network Time Protocol) that synchronises with a microsoft server once a week. Maybe you turned it off though. This seems unlikely to be the problem for such a case of apparent large sudden change, but it's good practice to help avoid it. Also it's a good idea to make it use a more geographically local time server for better accuracy. See the XP instructions at : http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robin.d.h.walker/cmtips/timesync.html Use a server from here that is in the IT ISO domain (well assuming you really are in Italy and not just posting from an .it :) http://ntp.isc.org/bin/view/Servers/StratumTwoTimeServers You should be able to fix the file timestamp by renaming it to something else, then renaming back to its original name. I *think* the following should work ... - Open command prompt - cd c:\Program Files\Freenet (or wherever you installed it) - rename store\95\1-b38bb037f52115373113cee29711652f7a7b41260f0203 tmp - rename store\95\tmp 1-b38bb037f52115373113cee29711652f7a7b41260f0203 This will change the last modified date to the present and freenet should now be able to start. Unless there are many files like this :/ On *nix you could do a recursive touch on the whole store but AFAIK windows has no such functionality built in. Hope that helps, Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Freenet daemon dies
> > I'm pretty stumped on this one. I installed java and freenet on my debian > machine, and when I `sh start-freenet.sh', everything works fine for a > while, but if I leave the server alone, I come back and freenet is just > not running. Neither syslog nor freenet.log indicate anything, and I don't > know where jre logs. > > - Harrison [harrisonts(a)illx.org] > Presumably Java is crashing for some reason, you probably have a load of hs_err_pid_ files in the freenet directory containing random stack dumps. What does `java -version` say? You should use Sun (preferably) or Blackdown at least v1.4.2 (later versions are generally speaking "better" but use more memory.) How long does it take it to die? How big is your datastore? Did it use to work or has it always done this? AFAIK, the most common reason for random crashes other than hardware issues is running out of heap with large datastores. Java stupidly provides no real way for apps to tell they're running out of memory (or disk space!), so starvation results in slowing to a crawl followed by an OOM exception. Some versions of Java appear to be worse at this than others, e.g. on blackdown 1.4.1 (only one I can use, Sparc box) I had to set the maximum heap to 1GB yes one Gigabyte for it to start successfully, and it doesn't even have a large store :) Although that box is temporarily out of commission with RAM ECC errors on one module now so that may have had something to do with it ... Anyway find the "java -Xmx128m etc etc" line at the end of start-freenet.sh that actually runs freenet, and try changing the Xmx (maximum heap size) to something larger e.g. -Xmx256m. Hopefully this will help. Incidentally it's intended to get the current alpha development version, the pretty much rewritten and significantly different (UDP, mixed scalable darknet/lightnet etc) 0.7, to work with with Free JVMs like Kaffe at some point which may help with this sort of issue. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Freenet daemon dies
I'm pretty stumped on this one. I installed java and freenet on my debian machine, and when I `sh start-freenet.sh', everything works fine for a while, but if I leave the server alone, I come back and freenet is just not running. Neither syslog nor freenet.log indicate anything, and I don't know where jre logs. - Harrison [harrisonts(a)illx.org] Presumably Java is crashing for some reason, you probably have a load of hs_err_pid_ files in the freenet directory containing random stack dumps. What does `java -version` say? You should use Sun (preferably) or Blackdown at least v1.4.2 (later versions are generally speaking better but use more memory.) How long does it take it to die? How big is your datastore? Did it use to work or has it always done this? AFAIK, the most common reason for random crashes other than hardware issues is running out of heap with large datastores. Java stupidly provides no real way for apps to tell they're running out of memory (or disk space!), so starvation results in slowing to a crawl followed by an OOM exception. Some versions of Java appear to be worse at this than others, e.g. on blackdown 1.4.1 (only one I can use, Sparc box) I had to set the maximum heap to 1GB yes one Gigabyte for it to start successfully, and it doesn't even have a large store :) Although that box is temporarily out of commission with RAM ECC errors on one module now so that may have had something to do with it ... Anyway find the java -Xmx128m etc etc line at the end of start-freenet.sh that actually runs freenet, and try changing the Xmx (maximum heap size) to something larger e.g. -Xmx256m. Hopefully this will help. Incidentally it's intended to get the current alpha development version, the pretty much rewritten and significantly different (UDP, mixed scalable darknet/lightnet etc) 0.7, to work with with Free JVMs like Kaffe at some point which may help with this sort of issue. Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: No inbound connections - can't see specified port listening?
writes: -- big snip -- > But I don't get incoming connections? Netstat doesn't show anything > listening on port 443. Is this normal for freenet? > No. It sounds like freenet is failing to bind the listenport, probably because it's already in use, or manages to do so but then crashes during startup (can happen e.g. with buggy JVMs or big datastores and the default heap size.) Even with no connections at all freenet should "work" in that you should be able to open the Web Interface page (right-click the system tray bunny.) If you can't even do that a full 10 mins after starting it then one of the above has happened. What does the end of freenet.log say? IIRC you can access this via the system tray bunny, or just find it in the main program directory. Random crashes probably indicate that your datastore is huge and the heap size needs increasing, or that you have a buggy Java version (not very likely, anything 1.4.2+ should be OK.) Bob
[freenet-support] Re: No inbound connections - can't see specified port listening?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -- big snip -- But I don't get incoming connections? Netstat doesn't show anything listening on port 443. Is this normal for freenet? No. It sounds like freenet is failing to bind the listenport, probably because it's already in use, or manages to do so but then crashes during startup (can happen e.g. with buggy JVMs or big datastores and the default heap size.) Even with no connections at all freenet should work in that you should be able to open the Web Interface page (right-click the system tray bunny.) If you can't even do that a full 10 mins after starting it then one of the above has happened. What does the end of freenet.log say? IIRC you can access this via the system tray bunny, or just find it in the main program directory. Random crashes probably indicate that your datastore is huge and the heap size needs increasing, or that you have a buggy Java version (not very likely, anything 1.4.2+ should be OK.) Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: 0.7 available??
Anonymous writes: > > I've currently got build 5106 and it's been working good on my > (underpowered) win98Se machine for a while now. I happened to be browsing > the snapshot downloads and ran across this: > > http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/freenet-0.7-prealpha-20051216-305.jar > > (freenet-0.7-prealpha-20051216-305.jar 16-Dec-2005 07:13 610k) 0.7 has *not* been released yet, like the filename says it's still in alpha, but testers are very much needed. The above isn't the newest build anyway, this one is : http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/freenet-cvs-snapshot.jar > What is the procedure for converting from 5106 to the new 0.7 build? Is it > just a matter of drop-in replacement of the freenet.jar file? Nope, it's fundamentally different in many ways and not finished. This means it needs its own directory and at the moment only has a primitive command line interface, because FCP and fproxy aren't implemented yet. (It's much faster than 0.5 on the current network, but the 0.7 test net is tiny.) It's straightforward to set up a 0.7 node in most cases, however you effectively have to be in #freenet-alphatest on IRC to help test it (because it's a darknet) and you must keep up to date with the frequently updated snapshot. See also, IRC logs: http://emu.freenetproject.org/irc/ Install guide: http://wiki.freenetproject.org/FreenetAlphatestNodeInstallation Bob
[freenet-support] Re: 0.7 available??
Anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've currently got build 5106 and it's been working good on my (underpowered) win98Se machine for a while now. I happened to be browsing the snapshot downloads and ran across this: http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/freenet-0.7-prealpha-20051216-305.jar (freenet-0.7-prealpha-20051216-305.jar 16-Dec-2005 07:13 610k) 0.7 has *not* been released yet, like the filename says it's still in alpha, but testers are very much needed. The above isn't the newest build anyway, this one is : http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/freenet-cvs-snapshot.jar What is the procedure for converting from 5106 to the new 0.7 build? Is it just a matter of drop-in replacement of the freenet.jar file? Nope, it's fundamentally different in many ways and not finished. This means it needs its own directory and at the moment only has a primitive command line interface, because FCP and fproxy aren't implemented yet. (It's much faster than 0.5 on the current network, but the 0.7 test net is tiny.) It's straightforward to set up a 0.7 node in most cases, however you effectively have to be in #freenet-alphatest on IRC to help test it (because it's a darknet) and you must keep up to date with the frequently updated snapshot. See also, IRC logs: http://emu.freenetproject.org/irc/ Install guide: http://wiki.freenetproject.org/FreenetAlphatestNodeInstallation Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Computer illiterate trying to set up freenet
Bob writes: -- snip -- > > Are you using the official Apple OSX installer for 1.5? If not, follow the > instructions here : > http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302412 Sorry, I just read that page a bit more thoroughly and it needs OSX 10.4.2 .. as far as I can tell there are no 10.3.9 -> 10.4 upgrade patches either, you'd have to buy a newer version :/ So you might as well stick with the default 1.4.2 for now and hope you don't get the crashing issue. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Computer illiterate trying to set up freenet
Diddy Bird writes: > > Hi, I know next to nothing about computers but would > like to check out some files I've been told are on > freenet. So, I'm trying to install it but have run > into some problems. > > Okay, I'm running Mac OSX 10.3.9. I've downloaded the > JVM (jre1.5.0_06), figured out that "Terminal" is the > name of the program to type "java -version" into, and > got the > java version "1.4.2_09" > Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition > (build 1.4.2_09-233) > Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2-56, mixed > mode) Hmm, well as you can see from the above version information you still have the built-in version of java 1.4.2 as the default, so either you haven't installed 1.5 or haven't made it the preferred version. Are you using the official Apple OSX installer for 1.5? If not, follow the instructions here : http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302412 The built in 1.4.2 should work by the way, *but* there are reports that at least some versions tend to crash the kernel and thus hang the machine eventually. So using 1.5 is advisable, I haven't seen reports of that doing the same thing. > message. But now I'm lost. The start guide says to > check where the java installer has placed the files > (no idea how to do that) According to apple, you can find a "new Java Preferences utility" in /Applications/Utilities/Java/J2SE 5.0/ . Run that and choose to use 1.5 as the default. I've never seen it (or even seen OSX) so I couldn't tell you how exactly, but I would imagine you just select Java 1.5 off a list or something. > and then there's a bunch of > googlygook about something called ~/.profile. > PATH=$PATH:/opt/sun-jre-1.5.0_04/bin did nothing. Because that example is for Linux, I doubt OSX even has an /opt :) This step should not be neccessary on OSX, use the java preferences utility mentioned above instead. > The next step made more sense. I downloaded freenet > and tried typing the first of the list of commands to > enter into terminal, but when I try the first one it > says:tar (child): freenet-latest.tgz: Cannot open: > (null) > tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now > tar: Child returned status 2 > tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors Are you sure it's called freenet-latest.tgz? The version linked from the main project download page is called freenet-stable-latest.tgz . Note the different filename, i.e. you need to do "tar -zxvf freenet-stable-latest.tgz" in this case. Also check it's about 6 MB, if not you may have an incomplete download and need to download it again. If the command line still won't work try locating and double clicking it in the Finder. You ought to get some sort of archive manager that lets you unzip it wherever you want. > So, obviously, I need to do something. When I try to > open start-freenet.sh it says there's no default > program. *sigh* Help? Yeah, this is because it failed to unzip in the previous step for whatever reason so you don't have a start-freenet.sh yet. When it does unzip you will get a "freenet" directory, and start-freenet.sh is inside there along with the rest of freenet. Assuming you just unzipped at the command prompt, you should be able to do : cd freenet chmod u+x *.sh ./start-freenet.sh I realise that all this is not exactly user friendly. Ideally we should have a proper OSX installer to make this process easier, if there are any Mac developers out there this would be a worthwhile project :) > Christina Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Turning off or shutting down Freenet
freenetwork at ... writes: -- snip -- > The freenet node runs with the name "javaw.exe". But if you don't know the exact PID, simply killing by name > might affect other java programs running as they all have the same process name (java or javaw). > "freenet.exe" is just the bunnyapp Yeah, but the process tree is freenet.exe -> Flaunch.exe -> javaw. Sysinternals pskill, at least, has the ability to kill a process and all its "descendants" (with the -t switch), so provided they are considered descendant processes you should be able to kill freenet.exe and take the rest of freenet (only) with it. > (Yes, this confusion arises quite often but nobody cares to give this, > IMHO totally superfluous (hopefully 0.7 comes without all these stupid extra-programs), app a proper name). I don't see how it's superfluous .. it provides an indication of freenet's status, and easy access to fproxy and logs. It's in straight C so it's not like its using a significant amount of resources either. The program we should hope to ultimately retire IMO is NodeConfig, which isn't very user friendly, in favour of an fproxy web configuration page. IIRC Matthew has said that such a thing is intended. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Turning off or shutting down Freenet with the Windows client
Bob writes: > Right now this isn't directly possible via freenet.exe (the systray app) as > far > as I can tell. It does take command line args, but not a shutdown one. It > could Heh ignore that, I'm an idiot, obviously running freenet.exe -shutdown to call ExitFServe would spawn a new process then shut it down rather than affecting an existing one :) It would have to look for another instance of itself, post stop/exit messages to it and then quit. This is unneccessarily complex though, process killing should work one way or another. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: getting Freenet to work on FreeBSD
Rob Lytle writes: > > Hi, > > Has anyone been able to get Freenet working on FreeBSD? I don't have any experience of this but a couple of observations follow. > I have downloaded the latest stable release of Freenet. I also have a > number of Java implementations: > > linux-blackdown-jdk1.4.2 > linux-sun-jdk1.4.2 > linux-sun-jdk1.5.0 > jdk1.4.2 (the native FreeBSD version) > > So far, the only one that will do anything is linux-sun-jdk1.4.2. But > none of the Java processes communicate on localhost: as revealed by > sockstat. It may just be crashing due to JVM issues, in which case you should see no java processes and probably a collection of hs_err_pid* stack traces. Compatibility with things other than native Sun java (and thus lack of full FOSS freedom) are problems at present, which is why freenet 0.7 - the current alpha development version - is aiming to work under Free Java platforms like Kaffe / GCJ. Actually "gij works" in a current branch, if the SVN log is to be believed :) Anyway if ps shows alive/blocked threads you may be seeing the very slow startup issue fixed on more common platforms some time ago. (Slow entropy generation or something in Yarrow.) Try waiting ages, and/or give it a huge heap via the -Xmx line in start-freenet.sh , at least I have to do that on my blackdown 1.4.1 Sparc node for some reason. > The Java versions that do nothing all fail with an error message > stating that some other process owns the lockfile. Is it one Java > process competing against another? This is probably the lock.lck file freenet creates in its main directory to prevent multiple instances, if it crashes it won't get deleted ... do so manually and retry. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Turning off or shutting down Freenet with the Windows client
Anonymous writes: > > I believe with *nix and BSD, it is possible to stop Freeent with the shell script. Is there any way to shut down > or stop Freenet with the Windows client with the command line? This would be useful for the task scheduler > and such! > > Thanks Right now this isn't directly possible via freenet.exe (the systray app) as far as I can tell. It does take command line args, but not a shutdown one. It could probably be added though, I _think_ it just has to invoke ExitFserve(). All the *nix scripts do is kill the parent freenet pid. You *may* be able to emulate that using a process killer like psKill (http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilities/PsKill.html) to kill freenet.exe, depending on how windows handles CreateProcess parent/child relationships. If that doesn't work you could go scorched earth and just kill all the javaw instances. Possibly psKill accepts wildcard names, if not you could still do it with a bit of scripting :) Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Newbie can't connect.
Shaun Burnett writes: > Hello Freenet Guru's, > > I've been trying for the last few weeks to get a Freenet node working > on Win Xp (SP 2), and although I'm not networking champion, I think > I've done everything I should. I've opened up the correct port in my > ADSL Modem / Router / Firewall and yet I still can't get anywhere. > Even when I switch to Dial up, I still have the same trouble, which > is, when I open the Gateway it says Build 5106 and stops at 5%, unless > I keep hitting refresh in which I can get it go to 40% before the > refresh refuses to have any further effect. > > I've got the DNS update service running (non static IP) and have put > that in the config file. > I've changed the max number of connections, but have since forgotten > what I changed it to; it was to a recommendation I read somewhere on > the Wiki. > I've also tried to download the latest seednode info from > http://www.freenetproject.org/snapshots/ and also using the "update > Snapshot" program, which downloads the Jaw update fine but times-out > every single attempt on the seednode update part. Any attempt to > download the seednode update always times-out. Did you use a recent installer? If it's an old one, UpdateSnapshot might be trying to grab seednodes.ref uncompressed and from somewhere it isn't anymore. If it's a slightly less old installer it might be an issue with coralCDN latency and short timeouts. Either way, it should work fine with the latest UpdateSnapshot ... you can get just that from http://bob.sdf-eu.org/freenet/UpdateSnapshot.exe, or download a new installer and use that. (I help maintain the official installers though so if you don't trust me you're screwed either way ;) -- big performance data snip -- The problem is you have no connections, incoming or outgoing. You appear to only have 2 node references, both of them presumably uncontactable, so I think your seednodes.ref file is a tiny truncated one. Try updating with the latest UpdateSnapshot linked above, or if you'd prefer for the time being manually download a new one to e.g. c:\Program Files\Freenet\ from one of the zipped copies at http://downloads.freenetproject.org/seednodes/, and overwrite your presumably tiny one with it. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Newbie can't connect.
Shaun Burnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello Freenet Guru's, I've been trying for the last few weeks to get a Freenet node working on Win Xp (SP 2), and although I'm not networking champion, I think I've done everything I should. I've opened up the correct port in my ADSL Modem / Router / Firewall and yet I still can't get anywhere. Even when I switch to Dial up, I still have the same trouble, which is, when I open the Gateway it says Build 5106 and stops at 5%, unless I keep hitting refresh in which I can get it go to 40% before the refresh refuses to have any further effect. I've got the DNS update service running (non static IP) and have put that in the config file. I've changed the max number of connections, but have since forgotten what I changed it to; it was to a recommendation I read somewhere on the Wiki. I've also tried to download the latest seednode info from http://www.freenetproject.org/snapshots/ and also using the update Snapshot program, which downloads the Jaw update fine but times-out every single attempt on the seednode update part. Any attempt to download the seednode update always times-out. Did you use a recent installer? If it's an old one, UpdateSnapshot might be trying to grab seednodes.ref uncompressed and from somewhere it isn't anymore. If it's a slightly less old installer it might be an issue with coralCDN latency and short timeouts. Either way, it should work fine with the latest UpdateSnapshot ... you can get just that from http://bob.sdf-eu.org/freenet/UpdateSnapshot.exe, or download a new installer and use that. (I help maintain the official installers though so if you don't trust me you're screwed either way ;) -- big performance data snip -- The problem is you have no connections, incoming or outgoing. You appear to only have 2 node references, both of them presumably uncontactable, so I think your seednodes.ref file is a tiny truncated one. Try updating with the latest UpdateSnapshot linked above, or if you'd prefer for the time being manually download a new one to e.g. c:\Program Files\Freenet\ from one of the zipped copies at http://downloads.freenetproject.org/seednodes/, and overwrite your presumably tiny one with it. Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Setting up Freenet on NetBSD 2.0.2
Gan Uesli Starling writes: > I'm trying to get Freenet going on NetBSD and > having problems. Am writing a howto as I go, so > whatever my mistake is you should find it there. > > http://69.51.152.43/darknets/#GUS-3-4 --snip-- > Freenet appears to start and run. I can get the > main list of links. But not a single one of those > links will display even after letting it run for > 24 hours. Hmm. Well, to get some non-performance related points out of the way there's no reason to forward and 8481 (mainport and FCP) unless you want to access your node remotely over the 'net or make it a public proxy, only your randomly listenPort is needed. Also the KidOfSpeed Chernobyl biking blog isn't quite what it appears :) http://johnford.net/mt/archives/chernobyl_motorcycle_ride_a_hoax.php http://www.uer.ca/forum_showthread.asp?fid=1=8951 If the "Web Interface" (usually called fproxy) appears but still doesn't do anything a full 24 hours later, something is very wrong. Does anything work at all, e.g. can you open the 'open connections' page? If not, presumably your JVM has crashed. If you can, how many connections do you have and how many are incoming? Another factor could be that your node is ridiculously overloaded, what's system load like? It's generally a good idea to set outputBandwidthLimit and inputBandwidthLimit. Start with something conservative. Other things that should help are big datastores and plenty of RAM / large maximum java heap (-Xmx line in start-freenet.sh.) Note that newbie nodes route badly at first, and after considerable uptime "learn" the network / cache content and do better. However, in my experience even a newbie node on default settings should get some activelinks rendering after a bit and eventually manage to make it to The Freedom Engine, so I think you have some more serious issue. Finally, you might want to note that this is Freenet 0.5 and all development work is currently focused on 0.7, which is considerably different (UDP, optional large scale darknet routing, later versions will have "low" latency channels / connections to a particular server etc.) Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Setting up Freenet on NetBSD 2.0.2
Gan Uesli Starling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to get Freenet going on NetBSD and having problems. Am writing a howto as I go, so whatever my mistake is you should find it there. http://69.51.152.43/darknets/#GUS-3-4 --snip-- Freenet appears to start and run. I can get the main list of links. But not a single one of those links will display even after letting it run for 24 hours. Hmm. Well, to get some non-performance related points out of the way there's no reason to forward and 8481 (mainport and FCP) unless you want to access your node remotely over the 'net or make it a public proxy, only your randomly listenPort is needed. Also the KidOfSpeed Chernobyl biking blog isn't quite what it appears :) http://johnford.net/mt/archives/chernobyl_motorcycle_ride_a_hoax.php http://www.uer.ca/forum_showthread.asp?fid=1threadid=8951 If the Web Interface (usually called fproxy) appears but still doesn't do anything a full 24 hours later, something is very wrong. Does anything work at all, e.g. can you open the 'open connections' page? If not, presumably your JVM has crashed. If you can, how many connections do you have and how many are incoming? Another factor could be that your node is ridiculously overloaded, what's system load like? It's generally a good idea to set outputBandwidthLimit and inputBandwidthLimit. Start with something conservative. Other things that should help are big datastores and plenty of RAM / large maximum java heap (-Xmx line in start-freenet.sh.) Note that newbie nodes route badly at first, and after considerable uptime learn the network / cache content and do better. However, in my experience even a newbie node on default settings should get some activelinks rendering after a bit and eventually manage to make it to The Freedom Engine, so I think you have some more serious issue. Finally, you might want to note that this is Freenet 0.5 and all development work is currently focused on 0.7, which is considerably different (UDP, optional large scale darknet routing, later versions will have low latency channels / connections to a particular server etc.) Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: can't access
Mark Burford writes: > > I just learned about freenet today and downloaded it. I can't access anything. For intance, when I click on 'freedom', it says to change hops-to-live: 13, which I did. Unfortunately it's normal in freenet 0.5 for new nodes to have considerable difficulty accessing content. Given time, ideally leaving your node up as close to constantly as possible, it will integrate into the network and perform better. You should see a noticeable improvement after a day or so. > It then says to "reseed the node". I don't understand that. To "reseed" means to download a new seednodes.ref, which contains addresses of other nodes collected from the network. The easiest way to do this in windows is to run "Update Snapshot" from the start menu or (iirc) by right-clicking the systray bunny. However, unless you only run your node occassionally - in which case you can't expect it to perform well anyway - reseeding probably isn't neccessary. > As a last resort it says to contact you. 0.5 has acknowledged problems, primarily less than optimal specialisation/routing and the fact the network is open and therefore harvestable (possible to build a list of who runs nodes). Development is currently underway on 0.7 which is pretty much a rewrite, and hopefully will make progress toward addressing these. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: can't access
Mark Burford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just learned about freenet today and downloaded it. I can't access anything. For intance, when I click on 'freedom', it says to change hops-to-live: 13, which I did. Unfortunately it's normal in freenet 0.5 for new nodes to have considerable difficulty accessing content. Given time, ideally leaving your node up as close to constantly as possible, it will integrate into the network and perform better. You should see a noticeable improvement after a day or so. It then says to reseed the node. I don't understand that. To reseed means to download a new seednodes.ref, which contains addresses of other nodes collected from the network. The easiest way to do this in windows is to run Update Snapshot from the start menu or (iirc) by right-clicking the systray bunny. However, unless you only run your node occassionally - in which case you can't expect it to perform well anyway - reseeding probably isn't neccessary. As a last resort it says to contact you. 0.5 has acknowledged problems, primarily less than optimal specialisation/routing and the fact the network is open and therefore harvestable (possible to build a list of who runs nodes). Development is currently underway on 0.7 which is pretty much a rewrite, and hopefully will make progress toward addressing these. Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Huge logfile (3GB in 1 hour)
Julien Cornuwel writes: > > Hi all, > > Someone asked me to help him but I don't know what causes that problem. > Is logfile is filled with that message (several per second). Do you know > what it means and how to solve the problem ? > > QUOTE*** > 25 nov. 2005 22:17:28 (freenet.transport.ReadSelectorLoop, Network > reading thread, ERROR): Caught throwable in AbstractSelectorLoop!: > java.lang.NullPointerException > java.lang.NullPointerException > > at sun.nio.ch.WindowsSelectorImpl.implDereg(Unknown Source) --snip-- This is probably due to a bug in Java. There are problems with the NIO selector loop easily getting overwhelmed in 1.4.x. There's a workaround in Azureus for this, I think I posted about it a while ago but I don't remember if changes were made. Possibly it was this commit in 2.3.0.2 : "Core | Fix compatibility with JRE 1.4 series under Win32 due to NIO bug" (http://azureus.sourceforge.net/changelog_v2.php) Anyway, try telling them to upgrade to 1.5 (aka Java 5) from www.java.com and that should hopefully fix it. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Huge logfile (3GB in 1 hour)
Julien Cornuwel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi all, Someone asked me to help him but I don't know what causes that problem. Is logfile is filled with that message (several per second). Do you know what it means and how to solve the problem ? QUOTE*** 25 nov. 2005 22:17:28 (freenet.transport.ReadSelectorLoop, Network reading thread, ERROR): Caught throwable in AbstractSelectorLoop!: java.lang.NullPointerException java.lang.NullPointerException at sun.nio.ch.WindowsSelectorImpl.implDereg(Unknown Source) --snip-- This is probably due to a bug in Java. There are problems with the NIO selector loop easily getting overwhelmed in 1.4.x. There's a workaround in Azureus for this, I think I posted about it a while ago but I don't remember if changes were made. Possibly it was this commit in 2.3.0.2 : Core | Fix compatibility with JRE 1.4 series under Win32 due to NIO bug (http://azureus.sourceforge.net/changelog_v2.php) Anyway, try telling them to upgrade to 1.5 (aka Java 5) from www.java.com and that should hopefully fix it. Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: GrapeWine?
m0rtal frei writes: > > Hi there! > Can anyone tell me what's the real difference between FreeNet and > GrapeWine (http://www.grapevineproject.org/) ? The general concept is similar to freenet 0.5, it even uses FEC and borrows CHKs from it. It's in C++ and is a "from scratch" project with its own routing etc, which sounds to me like it might use a DHT, so a better comparison might be Entropy. It appears to still be alpha (front page : "I really believe this software will work, and I intend to finish it one day.") There are a few other oddities like using HTTP transports instead of just TCP. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: GrapeWine?
m0rtal frei [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi there! Can anyone tell me what's the real difference between FreeNet and GrapeWine (http://www.grapevineproject.org/) ? The general concept is similar to freenet 0.5, it even uses FEC and borrows CHKs from it. It's in C++ and is a from scratch project with its own routing etc, which sounds to me like it might use a DHT, so a better comparison might be Entropy. It appears to still be alpha (front page : I really believe this software will work, and I intend to finish it one day.) There are a few other oddities like using HTTP transports instead of just TCP. Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Can't access page
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I'm running the freenet-client on a dedicated and therefor headless server (Fedora Core 3, JRE 1.5). But whenever I try to access the page at port I get an empty page and following messages in the freenet.log: --snip-- I think the stuff you posted is indicative of very high load, such that fred never manages to reply to you before timing out. Try : - Decreasing maximumThreads, e.g. to 100 \__ in freenet.conf - Decreasing maxNodeConnections, e.g. to 150 / - Increasing maximum heap size (-Xmx parameter at the end of start-freenet.sh), Java 1.5 is faster but also more memory intensive. Since this is presumably a dedicated freenet box, you probably want to be quite generous here, especially if you have a large datastore (the index is kept in RAM.) Java will not actually allocate the maximum unless it needs to. There are more advanced optimisations that can be tried here, such as the -server flag, which will make freenet take longer to start but in theory run more efficiently. See http://www.freenethelp.org/html/MaintainingPermanentNodes.html Restart freenet, since not everything can be changed on the fly. Wait 10-15 minutes before you try to do anything; load is always very high after (re)starting. General performance tuning like disabling services you don't need can't hurt either of course. HTH, Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Stable or unstable?
Teng Junbin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I read on some forums that Freenet is actually a lot faster on the unstable version. However, I also read that Freenet is supposed to get faster with time. I've just started using Freenet, so I'm not sure how long is a reasonable amount of time to wait before the speed stablizes. Currently, about 1 in 10 requests I make go through and anything is returned at all. Even if anything is returned, it is usually painfully slow (the pictures of the directories in the main page took about 20-30 minutes to load fully). If I switch to the unstable version, would the speed be improved? Also, I read that I need unstable.ref, which I am unable to find in the directory of http://www.freenetproject.org/snapshots/ Is it removed or can I just use a normal seednodes.ref? junbin This is outdated. Freenet 0.5, which is the current release version, used to have a stable and unstable branch as described above. However they were merged a while ago since the current development version is the significantly different 0.7 alpha, where most of the core stuff is being rewritten from scratch. 0.5 unstable was a bit faster in my experience. This was probably due mostly to the network being smaller, perhaps it also had a higher percentage of dedicated / tuned nodes due to its attraction for geekier people. 0.7 is very much in need of alpha testers by the way : http://article.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.devel/16905 and has the potential to be significantly faster / lower latency than 0.5 eventually, as well as offering greater security (darknets.) Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Outbound message overhead ?
emiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I always have a Outbound message overhead of about 70% or more. What exactly does Outbound message overhead mean? And how can I get it lower? You think that's bad, mine is always negative :) Right now it's -145% (-31,776,769 Bytes wasted in the last hour), heh ... it seems to work anyway though. I put it down to the fact it's Linux on a Sparc so I have to use the rather less than up to date Blackdown-1.4.1-01. As for exactly what it means I don't know, I would guess it's a rough measure of the amount of effort (retries etc) needed to manage to send a message. In which case you can improve it by generally tuning your node for performance and making sure you can accept incoming connections. Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: couldnt find the main class, program exit
LUCAS PERCY writes: > Hello, i wrote from Cartagena de Indias, COLOMBIA > > I need your valuable help with this issue, i have tried to install a lot of > times the freenet from "freenet-java-webinstall", but at the end of the > installation there is a message "couldnt find main class, program exit". Lucas has replied to me saying my suggestions fixed this, they're replicated below for the benefit of anyone in the same situation that finds this thread via google. "- Uninstall your current half-installed freenet **SAVING YOUR SEEDNODES.REF SOMEWHERE** if you have one - Upgrade to the latest java from www.java.com - Get the normal webinstaller instead (http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/freenet-webinstall.exe) - Copy your saved seednodes into the same dir as the webinstaller, install (...) The webinstaller downloads freenet a file at a time, so hopefully you won't run into the stupid sourceforge throttling problem we have right now. The exception is seednodes.ref which is a big file, hence why you save your existing copy in the above steps." I've tried this since and can report that a full install can be done via the normal webinstaller, however sourceforge throttling did manage to stall the download of freenet.jar so I had to cancel then retry it when prompted. Also the installer appears to hang after you OK the initial NodeConfig run. It's actually still doing things like making shortcuts and the uninstaller, and if you leave it for a minute or two it eventually finishes, but it looks a lot like it's hung. In the past I have assumed this and end-tasked it. Someone should try to put some sort of feedback in there really. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: couldnt find the main class, program exit
LUCAS PERCY [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, i wrote from Cartagena de Indias, COLOMBIA I need your valuable help with this issue, i have tried to install a lot of times the freenet from freenet-java-webinstall, but at the end of the installation there is a message couldnt find main class, program exit. Lucas has replied to me saying my suggestions fixed this, they're replicated below for the benefit of anyone in the same situation that finds this thread via google. - Uninstall your current half-installed freenet **SAVING YOUR SEEDNODES.REF SOMEWHERE** if you have one - Upgrade to the latest java from www.java.com - Get the normal webinstaller instead (http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/freenet-webinstall.exe) - Copy your saved seednodes into the same dir as the webinstaller, install (...) The webinstaller downloads freenet a file at a time, so hopefully you won't run into the stupid sourceforge throttling problem we have right now. The exception is seednodes.ref which is a big file, hence why you save your existing copy in the above steps. I've tried this since and can report that a full install can be done via the normal webinstaller, however sourceforge throttling did manage to stall the download of freenet.jar so I had to cancel then retry it when prompted. Also the installer appears to hang after you OK the initial NodeConfig run. It's actually still doing things like making shortcuts and the uninstaller, and if you leave it for a minute or two it eventually finishes, but it looks a lot like it's hung. In the past I have assumed this and end-tasked it. Someone should try to put some sort of feedback in there really. Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: NODECO-1
Volodya writes: > > I'm trying to help a friend of mine to set up a freenet node (the fact that i'm doing it > over the Yahoo chat doesn't help much). At first we tried to skip the > download of seednodes.ref file during the install, and use mine instead. > For some reason that didn't work (0 connections), so i thought ok, let's > try going through Imprort New Node Ref -> Download References, > however at that time "NODECO-1" error comes up saying "Error while > retrieving the seed file!". I cannot find any information on what that > Nodeco thing is. > Any help? It's NodeConfig.exe, for some reason being shown as a DOS style 8+3 virtual LFN i.e. NodeCo~1.exe. Some users have reported problems with the installer recently, because Sourceforge have started throttling big downloads in what appears to be a poorly thought out fashion. Also the winstaller currently downloads the uncompressed seendnodes rather than one of the much smaller compressed versions, which doesn't help. Until these issues get fixed your best bet in case of problems is to manually download compressed seednodes from the snapshots, e.g. http://www.freenetproject.org/snapshots/seednodes.zip. This can be unzipped into the main freenet directory (where freenet.jar and various other things are) if the install is basically complete other than missing seednodes, though they may need to manually run NodeConfig.exe to set up a freenet.ini. Alternatively I believe you can put the uncompressed seednodes in the same directory as the webinstaller exe (there should be other temporary files in there) then re-run the installer, and it will notice some seednodes are already present and not try to download them. If the second way works it's probably better. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: outputBandwidthLimit
Roman Bednarek writes: > On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, Matthew Toseland wrote: > > > It *should* work. It is believed to work. Do you have an > > inputBandwidthLimit set? That might be helpful - incoming traffic > > requires acknowledgement via outgoing packets. > > > No, I do not have inputBandwidthLimit set (my ADSL has much bigger > input than output), but now when I set it nothing has changed. I run it on > linux, if it doeas matter. On servlet/nodeinfo/performance/general page I > can read: > Current upstream bandwidth usage 208 bytes/second (5,1%) > and at the same time about 18KB on iptraf monitor(with only freenet > running). > I had to stop freenet node, to write that answer in pine, full > bandwidth was used and I even could not type. (not always is so bad, most > of the time something free is left). > > Roman Hmm, well that's odd. Output limiting is not accurate, and there can be a lag of up to 10 minutes before fred notices changes to the conf file, but it seems to basically work in my experience. Some disparity between fred's usage report and iptraf's could be explained by instantaneous vs. long period sampling, but can't explain a limit of 4k apparently maxing out your upstream. Could you post your outputBandwdithLimit line exactly as it appears in freenet.conf / freenet.ini, and maybe the immediately surrounding entries? I suspect it's not doing anything at all because it's somehow malformed, thus letting freenet run unlimited. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Problem with the install
m0rtal frei writes: > No way :( > First time, when I ran freenet.exe, it asked me to add a "path" to > flaunch.ini, that leads to javaw.exe. I did it, and now error pops: > > Java virtual machine launcher > Could not find the main class. Program will exit. > > I have the latest (I suppose) Java VM, 1.5.0_04, if that helps... > This is probably because the winstaller writes some registry keys or something :/ By "run freenet from the command line" I meant open a command prompt, change to where you 'installed' freenet and do : java -Xmx150M -cp freenet.jar;freenet-ext.jar;%CLASSPATH% freenet.node.Main having first generated a freenet.ini with NodeConfig. Oh, and if you're missing any files download them to the install dir from http://freenetproject.org/snapshots. If you're missing freenet.jar itself get freenet-latest.jar and rename it. This really isn't a solution I know because it's a pain and the whole point of the winstaller is to make the process user-friendly, but if it works it helps narrow down where the problem is. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Problem with the install
m0rtal frei [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No way :( First time, when I ran freenet.exe, it asked me to add a path to flaunch.ini, that leads to javaw.exe. I did it, and now error pops: Java virtual machine launcher Could not find the main class. Program will exit. I have the latest (I suppose) Java VM, 1.5.0_04, if that helps... This is probably because the winstaller writes some registry keys or something :/ By run freenet from the command line I meant open a command prompt, change to where you 'installed' freenet and do : java -Xmx150M -cp freenet.jar;freenet-ext.jar;%CLASSPATH% freenet.node.Main having first generated a freenet.ini with NodeConfig. Oh, and if you're missing any files download them to the install dir from http://freenetproject.org/snapshots. If you're missing freenet.jar itself get freenet-latest.jar and rename it. This really isn't a solution I know because it's a pain and the whole point of the winstaller is to make the process user-friendly, but if it works it helps narrow down where the problem is. Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Problem with the install
m0rtal frei writes: > > Hi, fellas! > > I have a strange error during install process: after getting all > necessary files from hdd/inet, FreeNet install program shows: > > Unable to write a file to disk. Check that the disk is not full, or > write-protected, and that you have rights to install files. The > installer will now exit. > > And, surely, it aborts setup process and exits :( > > I have almost 2GB free on my disk, it's not write-protected (even > more, I can see all non-zero necessary files in the temporary > folder!), and have all necessary rights (admin under WinXP). What's > wrong?! Hmm, that's very strange. I haven't seen this reported before. This error comes from the installer .NSI script. The only things which should cause it are if the installer can't create the installation directory, or if it fails to copy one of the needed files (README, NodeConfig.exe,freenet-ext.jar, freenet-latest.jar or freenet.jar, Uninstall.exe) into it. Random ideas : check for any weird ACL's / permissions on the install dir, that you can manually create the dir and put stuff in it, if you're trying to install from an SMB share or suchlike do it from a local disk instead. It's possible to kludge around this error (copy all the "temporary" files manually to your desired install location, run NodeConfig.exe to generate a config, run freenet from the command line) but this is less than convenient and you would lose nice windows functionality like the system tray bunny :/ Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Problem with the install
m0rtal frei [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, fellas! I have a strange error during install process: after getting all necessary files from hdd/inet, FreeNet install program shows: Unable to write a file to disk. Check that the disk is not full, or write-protected, and that you have rights to install files. The installer will now exit. And, surely, it aborts setup process and exits :( I have almost 2GB free on my disk, it's not write-protected (even more, I can see all non-zero necessary files in the temporary folder!), and have all necessary rights (admin under WinXP). What's wrong?! Hmm, that's very strange. I haven't seen this reported before. This error comes from the installer .NSI script. The only things which should cause it are if the installer can't create the installation directory, or if it fails to copy one of the needed files (README, NodeConfig.exe,freenet-ext.jar, freenet-latest.jar or freenet.jar, Uninstall.exe) into it. Random ideas : check for any weird ACL's / permissions on the install dir, that you can manually create the dir and put stuff in it, if you're trying to install from an SMB share or suchlike do it from a local disk instead. It's possible to kludge around this error (copy all the temporary files manually to your desired install location, run NodeConfig.exe to generate a config, run freenet from the command line) but this is less than convenient and you would lose nice windows functionality like the system tray bunny :/ Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Problem running freenet after having just installed the software (v. 5.2.8)
Matthew Hoffman writes: > > Hello. I read through this list and the helpful guides on the > beginners site but I am not able to find the information I need. > ==snip== > Could not initialize network I/O system! Exiting > > java.io.IOException: Unable to establish loopback connection > at sun.nio.ch.PipeImpl$Initializer.run(Unknown Source) > at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) > at sun.nio.ch.PipeImpl.(Unknown Source) > at sun.nio.ch.SelectorProviderImpl.openPipe(Unknown Source) > at java.nio.channels.Pipe.open(Unknown Source) ==snip== Either some problem resolving the loopback like Toad said, or maybe your listenPort is already being used by something else?? This should not be the case unless you manually set it though (especially as you reinstalled which should choose a random new one.) All that exception means is that the ReadSelectorLoop or WriteSelectorLoop failed to init (should really be two separate catches IMO), somebody familiar with the code should be able to work out why faster than I could. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Problem running freenet after having just installed the software (v. 5.2.8)
Matthew Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello. I read through this list and the helpful guides on the beginners site but I am not able to find the information I need. ==snip== Could not initialize network I/O system! Exiting java.io.IOException: Unable to establish loopback connection at sun.nio.ch.PipeImpl$Initializer.run(Unknown Source) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at sun.nio.ch.PipeImpl.init(Unknown Source) at sun.nio.ch.SelectorProviderImpl.openPipe(Unknown Source) at java.nio.channels.Pipe.open(Unknown Source) ==snip== Either some problem resolving the loopback like Toad said, or maybe your listenPort is already being used by something else?? This should not be the case unless you manually set it though (especially as you reinstalled which should choose a random new one.) All that exception means is that the ReadSelectorLoop or WriteSelectorLoop failed to init (should really be two separate catches IMO), somebody familiar with the code should be able to work out why faster than I could. Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Zone Alarm's vsmon.exe eating RAM
Volodya Mozhenkov writes: > Level 13 wrote: > > I'm using the last version of 5.5 series (freeware version). I'm > > somehow reluctant about installing 6 since I've heard so much bad > > things about this version. > > I'm not terribly complaining... but i'm looking for a good free alternative, though. > Tiny personal firewall seemed pretty good last time I tried it, it's free-as-in-beer for personal use. http://www.webmasterfree.com/tpfw.html Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Zone Alarm's vsmon.exe eating RAM
Volodya Mozhenkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Level 13 wrote: I'm using the last version of 5.5 series (freeware version). I'm somehow reluctant about installing 6 since I've heard so much bad things about this version. I'm not terribly complaining... but i'm looking for a good free alternative, though. Tiny personal firewall seemed pretty good last time I tried it, it's free-as-in-beer for personal use. http://www.webmasterfree.com/tpfw.html Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Compiling freenet on Linux
Bob writes: > ==snip== > > I have no experience of building freenet, but this looks like a $CLASSPATH > problem. Specifically, check servlet.jar is in there. If the sources don't > come > with servlet.jar you need to get one first, which comes e.g. as part of Apache > Tomcat, the Sun JWSDP or Apache Axis (I think.) > > Bob Umm, perhaps more usefully : http://java.sun.com/products/servlet/download.html The "implementations" linked at the top of the table should all have a servlet.jar in them. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Compiling freenet on Linux
Peter Joosten writes: > Hello, > > After using Mika Hirvonen's rpm's for a while and noticing that his server nightwatch.mine.nu no > longer exists I decided to use the source and compile freenet. ==snip== > [javac] /usr/src/fred/freenet/src/freenet/PeerHTMLRenderer.java:770: cannot find symbol > [javac] symbol : class HttpServletRequest > [javac] location: class freenet.PeerHTMLRenderer > [javac] HttpServletRequest req, > [javac] ^ > [javac] /usr/src/fred/freenet/src/freenet/PeerHTMLRenderer.java:771: ==snip== I have no experience of building freenet, but this looks like a $CLASSPATH problem. Specifically, check servlet.jar is in there. If the sources don't come with servlet.jar you need to get one first, which comes e.g. as part of Apache Tomcat, the Sun JWSDP or Apache Axis (I think.) Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Compiling freenet on Linux
Peter Joosten [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, After using Mika Hirvonen's rpm's for a while and noticing that his server nightwatch.mine.nu no longer exists I decided to use the source and compile freenet. ==snip== [javac] /usr/src/fred/freenet/src/freenet/PeerHTMLRenderer.java:770: cannot find symbol [javac] symbol : class HttpServletRequest [javac] location: class freenet.PeerHTMLRenderer [javac] HttpServletRequest req, [javac] ^ [javac] /usr/src/fred/freenet/src/freenet/PeerHTMLRenderer.java:771: ==snip== I have no experience of building freenet, but this looks like a $CLASSPATH problem. Specifically, check servlet.jar is in there. If the sources don't come with servlet.jar you need to get one first, which comes e.g. as part of Apache Tomcat, the Sun JWSDP or Apache Axis (I think.) Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Compiling freenet on Linux
Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ==snip== I have no experience of building freenet, but this looks like a $CLASSPATH problem. Specifically, check servlet.jar is in there. If the sources don't come with servlet.jar you need to get one first, which comes e.g. as part of Apache Tomcat, the Sun JWSDP or Apache Axis (I think.) Bob Umm, perhaps more usefully : http://java.sun.com/products/servlet/download.html The implementations linked at the top of the table should all have a servlet.jar in them. Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: OSX builds of freenet
Squished Squirrel writes: ==snip== > Does freenet.jar accept command line options? In other words, can I pass > maxNodeConnections as a command line option? Yes, all conf parameters can be overridden on the command line. You just pass them like "--maxNodeConnections 200". Bob
[freenet-support] Re: OSX builds of freenet
Squished Squirrel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ==snip== Does freenet.jar accept command line options? In other words, can I pass maxNodeConnections as a command line option? Yes, all conf parameters can be overridden on the command line. You just pass them like --maxNodeConnections 200. Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: OSX builds of freenet
Squished Squirrel writes: ==snip== > I'm about to test it over the weekend and see what happens. > I know Java 1.4.2 (at least the latest version installed > with 10.3.9) will crater with Kernel Panics. It sounds a lot > like the problems that Azureus suffered from on Dual Processor > Macs. When too many connections were opened simultaniously, > Azureus would kernel panic. Apparently they found a work- > around though. ==snip== Yes, it looks that way. Apparently it only affects dual processor Macs, although it can make single CPU ones very slow. http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/azureus/azureus2/ChangeLog.txt?rev=HEAD 2004.12.18 | Azureus 2.2.0.2 (...) "BUGFIX: Core | Fix for kernel panics under MacOSX [ej32206, Nolar]" "Karl Kraft" here claims to have sent a testcase for the issue (panic with pure java only) to Sun and they ignored it, but doesn't say what it is exactly and I can't find it. http://www.macintouch.com/panreader34.html Diff for the Azureus fix (multilined for gmane) : http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php? forum_id=40629=flat=17=200408 Bob
[freenet-support] Re: OSX builds of freenet
Squished Squirrel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ==snip== I'm about to test it over the weekend and see what happens. I know Java 1.4.2 (at least the latest version installed with 10.3.9) will crater with Kernel Panics. It sounds a lot like the problems that Azureus suffered from on Dual Processor Macs. When too many connections were opened simultaniously, Azureus would kernel panic. Apparently they found a work- around though. ==snip== Yes, it looks that way. Apparently it only affects dual processor Macs, although it can make single CPU ones very slow. http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/azureus/azureus2/ChangeLog.txt?rev=HEAD 2004.12.18 | Azureus 2.2.0.2 (...) BUGFIX: Core | Fix for kernel panics under MacOSX [ej32206, Nolar] Karl Kraft here claims to have sent a testcase for the issue (panic with pure java only) to Sun and they ignored it, but doesn't say what it is exactly and I can't find it. http://www.macintouch.com/panreader34.html Diff for the Azureus fix (multilined for gmane) : http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php? forum_id=40629style=flatviewday=17viewmonth=200408 Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Need a little help plz ...
Richard Thomson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I seem to have Freenet working ok, but for some reason I am getting far to many error messages. To date, I have been very lucky to get to a site's main page, but never any further than that. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong. This is normal for new nodes. It gets better once a node is established in the network, which is achieved by leaving it up as much as possible, preferably with a big datastore. Freenet 0.5.x does have known performance issues even when well established though, which hopefully will be somewhat addressed by 0.7. Please see : http://article.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support/6610 (Guess something like this should go in the official Wiki FAQ) Thanks Here are some of the error messages ... --snip-- OK, you have inbound connections which is good but I notice you have no outputBandwidthLimit (or inputBandwidthLimit) set. Many people recommend having an outputBandwidthLimit appropriate for your connection's upload speed, or freenet tends to generate more traffic than it can handle. There are many other settings you can tweak for performance, this is a bit of a black art since optimal settings vary depending on the node but the first thing I would try is changing the JavaMem= line in Flaunch.ini to e.g. JavaMem=256 to allow freenet to use up to 256MB of RAM. Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Disk Thrashing issues
Squished Squirrel writes: > S ...> writes: > > > I would venture to say that increasing VM is more likely to increase > > disk access, not decrease it. -Xmx does seem to be what you want, > > though; it will set a ceiling on the amount of RAM that Java will > > allocate. > > > > Try disabling Virtual Memory in Windows altogether, and see if that > > helps any with the disk thrashing. Hmm, that sounds a bit crazy .. although the windows VM does suck so who knows :) > You should be able to run Windows > > plus Freenet reasonably well in 640 megs, especially if you kill off any > > tray utilities and unnecessary services. Check the task manager to see > > how much RAM Windows wants for itself, then use -Xmx (or FLaunch.ini) > to > > give Java most of whatever's left. > > > > s > > In my haste to post, I said "VM to 192..." I meant JavaMem. Looking at > the task manager, I'm not seeing any paging per se, so I don't think > that is it. It seems to be a periodic task that freenet itself is performing. Hmm. Tried useDSIndex=false? I don't know if that's particularly significant though. You could also try doLowLevelOutputLimiting=false / doLowLevelInputLimiting=false if you make sure doCPULoad=true and you have an outputBandwidthLimit set, that's more of a CPU thing but it seems to reduce load on my node. Other than that give Java a lot of memory via the control panel->Java -Xmx method and also set -Xms reasonably high to reduce fragmentation / management overhead. If you don't run Frost or other Java apps on the same machine you could make -Xms the same as -Xmx. Or install one JRE just for freenet and one for other apps and set the flags per instance. > It might go away if I dropped a drive in that had a decent cache. > This is a 5 year old 30GB maxtor drive, and I doubt it has much of a > cache on the drive itself. I think I really need to dig up another box > with a wee bit more modern CPU and drive. That would probably help. You might even consider EVM to split your DS across multiple SATA / SCSI drives :) This is suprisingly easy in Linux, I have no idea how to do it in windows (possibly you would need 2003 server or something.) Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Disk Thrashing issues
Squished Squirrel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: S freenet at ... writes: I would venture to say that increasing VM is more likely to increase disk access, not decrease it. -Xmx does seem to be what you want, though; it will set a ceiling on the amount of RAM that Java will allocate. Try disabling Virtual Memory in Windows altogether, and see if that helps any with the disk thrashing. Hmm, that sounds a bit crazy .. although the windows VM does suck so who knows :) You should be able to run Windows plus Freenet reasonably well in 640 megs, especially if you kill off any tray utilities and unnecessary services. Check the task manager to see how much RAM Windows wants for itself, then use -Xmx (or FLaunch.ini) to give Java most of whatever's left. s In my haste to post, I said VM to 192... I meant JavaMem. Looking at the task manager, I'm not seeing any paging per se, so I don't think that is it. It seems to be a periodic task that freenet itself is performing. Hmm. Tried useDSIndex=false? I don't know if that's particularly significant though. You could also try doLowLevelOutputLimiting=false / doLowLevelInputLimiting=false if you make sure doCPULoad=true and you have an outputBandwidthLimit set, that's more of a CPU thing but it seems to reduce load on my node. Other than that give Java a lot of memory via the control panel-Java -Xmx method and also set -Xms reasonably high to reduce fragmentation / management overhead. If you don't run Frost or other Java apps on the same machine you could make -Xms the same as -Xmx. Or install one JRE just for freenet and one for other apps and set the flags per instance. It might go away if I dropped a drive in that had a decent cache. This is a 5 year old 30GB maxtor drive, and I doubt it has much of a cache on the drive itself. I think I really need to dig up another box with a wee bit more modern CPU and drive. That would probably help. You might even consider EVM to split your DS across multiple SATA / SCSI drives :) This is suprisingly easy in Linux, I have no idea how to do it in windows (possibly you would need 2003 server or something.) Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: problem downloading the readme file
J B writes: > > I just downloaded and installed Freenet and am unable to download the readme > file to figure it out. There should be a README file in the main freenet directory .. it's more a collection of notes than an exhaustive manual though. I would point you to http://freenethelp.org but it seems to be down again :/ You might want to check it later. There's also the new official freenet wiki (http://freenetproject.org/wiki) but since it's new there's not a lot of info on it yet. > I keep getting Route Not Found and Couldn't Retrieve > Key errors. This is normal for relatively new nodes. To begin with they have nothing in their datastores, are unknown to the network and don't know which nodes to route requests to. These things improve as they "integrate" by learning network characteristics and to some extent develop their own specialisms (parts of the keyspace they are good at serving.) In other words, leave your node running for quite a long time and you should see it improve. Ideally freenet should be left running 24/7 on a dedicated computer, but more realistic for most people is that after a couple of days total uptime it should be reasonably well integrated and thereafter it should work acceptably when run semi-regularly for a few hours at a time. (Some freesite authors report successfully using freenet like this.) Even after this integration period, you should be aware that freenet 0.5 is usually slow and you will still see the occassional DNF or RNF. Freenet 0.7 performance should theoretically be better once it's release quality, although I personally suspect the darknet will be faster than the opennet, maybe quite significantly (better routing, less churn, friend-peers may share some of your interests.) Basic optimisations I'd recommend (some based on windows) : 1.)Make your datastore as big as you reasonably can, so that content blocks are magically cached locally before you even know you want them. 2.)Give it as much memory as you reasonably can (edit the JavaMem line in Flaunch.ini to e.g. JavaMem=350) because fred can be very I/O intensive. 3.)Make sure outputBandwidthLimit is set to something reasonable in freenet.ini (read the comments). You can set this with NodeConfig under the 'advanced' tab or something like that (yes I know, it should be much easier/more obvious) 4.)Again in freenet.ini / NodeConfig, make sure your ipAddress is set to your external IP and that your listenPort is forwarded / allowed through any NAT / firewall you may have. If you don't have a static external IP, use a free dynamic DNS service like http://dyndns.org and make sure you keep it up to date. You can tell if there's an issue here if there are never any incoming connections on your "Open Connections" web interface page. 5.)Setting doCPULoad=true in freenet.ini (don't know if there's a NodeConfig entry for this) is generally a good idea, if it's not set already. If you're on *nix the same things apply except the configuration file is freenet.conf, and you set maximum memory with the -Xmx flag in start-freenet.sh. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: "Could not find the Main class" error
sweet-things at ... writes: > > > Hello, > > Same errors ... > > When Launching Freenet: > > > The strange thing is that it is still present in the bar ... > --snip-- Sorry, the freenet.jar in the snapshots dir was corrupt (see http://article.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support/6602). Toad will probably have fixed it by the time you read this, download http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/freenet.jar over the top of your existing freenet.jar and try it again. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Could not find the Main class error
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, Same errors ... When Launching Freenet: The strange thing is that it is still present in the bar ... --snip-- Sorry, the freenet.jar in the snapshots dir was corrupt (see http://article.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support/6602). Toad will probably have fixed it by the time you read this, download http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/freenet.jar over the top of your existing freenet.jar and try it again. Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: problem downloading the readme file
J B [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I just downloaded and installed Freenet and am unable to download the readme file to figure it out. There should be a README file in the main freenet directory .. it's more a collection of notes than an exhaustive manual though. I would point you to http://freenethelp.org but it seems to be down again :/ You might want to check it later. There's also the new official freenet wiki (http://freenetproject.org/wiki) but since it's new there's not a lot of info on it yet. I keep getting Route Not Found and Couldn't Retrieve Key errors. This is normal for relatively new nodes. To begin with they have nothing in their datastores, are unknown to the network and don't know which nodes to route requests to. These things improve as they integrate by learning network characteristics and to some extent develop their own specialisms (parts of the keyspace they are good at serving.) In other words, leave your node running for quite a long time and you should see it improve. Ideally freenet should be left running 24/7 on a dedicated computer, but more realistic for most people is that after a couple of days total uptime it should be reasonably well integrated and thereafter it should work acceptably when run semi-regularly for a few hours at a time. (Some freesite authors report successfully using freenet like this.) Even after this integration period, you should be aware that freenet 0.5 is usually slow and you will still see the occassional DNF or RNF. Freenet 0.7 performance should theoretically be better once it's release quality, although I personally suspect the darknet will be faster than the opennet, maybe quite significantly (better routing, less churn, friend-peers may share some of your interests.) Basic optimisations I'd recommend (some based on windows) : 1.)Make your datastore as big as you reasonably can, so that content blocks are magically cached locally before you even know you want them. 2.)Give it as much memory as you reasonably can (edit the JavaMem line in Flaunch.ini to e.g. JavaMem=350) because fred can be very I/O intensive. 3.)Make sure outputBandwidthLimit is set to something reasonable in freenet.ini (read the comments). You can set this with NodeConfig under the 'advanced' tab or something like that (yes I know, it should be much easier/more obvious) 4.)Again in freenet.ini / NodeConfig, make sure your ipAddress is set to your external IP and that your listenPort is forwarded / allowed through any NAT / firewall you may have. If you don't have a static external IP, use a free dynamic DNS service like http://dyndns.org and make sure you keep it up to date. You can tell if there's an issue here if there are never any incoming connections on your Open Connections web interface page. 5.)Setting doCPULoad=true in freenet.ini (don't know if there's a NodeConfig entry for this) is generally a good idea, if it's not set already. If you're on *nix the same things apply except the configuration file is freenet.conf, and you set maximum memory with the -Xmx flag in start-freenet.sh. Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Could not find the Main class error
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 6. Enter java -Xmx128M -cp freenet.jar freenet.node.Main without the quotes. make that java -Xmx128M -cp freenet.jar;freenet-ext.jar;%CLASSPATH% freenet.node.Main Yeah, do this instead. I wrongly thought that freenet-ext.jar got explicitly loaded by freenet.jar if it existed. Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: "Could not find the Main class" error
Jim Q. writes: > Hi, > I had problem installing Freenet because it will fail to download software > during installation. Matthew helped me with that so I copied some of the > software it was having difficulty with in the installation directory but now > at the end of the installation I get the following error: "Java Virtual > Machine Launcher: Could Not Find the Main Class. Program will exit." BUt the > program continues its installation and is installed but whenever I try to > start the program I get the above mentioend JVM Launcher error. I upgraded > my JVM to the latest thinking that it was perhaps my JVM error. > Thanks, > Jim Hmm, odd. The most likely cause is a corrupt freenet.jar, try comparing the sizes / re-downloading it. Or you are trying to use 0.7's alpha jar which IIRC has a different main class, but this would be hard to do by accident since they aren't even hosted on freenetproject.org :) Failing that, what does the end of freenet.log say when this happens? Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Could not find the Main class error
Jim Q. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I had problem installing Freenet because it will fail to download software during installation. Matthew helped me with that so I copied some of the software it was having difficulty with in the installation directory but now at the end of the installation I get the following error: Java Virtual Machine Launcher: Could Not Find the Main Class. Program will exit. BUt the program continues its installation and is installed but whenever I try to start the program I get the above mentioend JVM Launcher error. I upgraded my JVM to the latest thinking that it was perhaps my JVM error. Thanks, Jim Hmm, odd. The most likely cause is a corrupt freenet.jar, try comparing the sizes / re-downloading it. Or you are trying to use 0.7's alpha jar which IIRC has a different main class, but this would be hard to do by accident since they aren't even hosted on freenetproject.org :) Failing that, what does the end of freenet.log say when this happens? Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Hypothetical question...
Matthew Toseland writes: --snip-- > No, there will be an opennet. It will probably operate on similar > principles to the current 0.5 network, but will be 0.7. > > > > We could have a rotating public nodes system like we currently do with > > seednodes.ref, but surely this would horribly break the routing? > > Not necessarily. So the friend small-world thing is purely for the scalable darknet, and the opennet will use something like ngrouting? > We have state level internet censorship? Slight hyperbole perhaps, but the apparatus is there and it seems to be happening. Right now known child porn sites are banned at the backbone/telco level, which is fine, but this shows worrying signs of being expanded. Next on the list is any criticism of a religion deemed to be "hate speech", and porn deemed by some undefined party to be too "violent". The proposed incitement to terrorism stuff is a bit open ended too. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4195332.stm OMG, must censor teh internets to protect our children because we have no parenting skills. As for the insinuation that any porn harder than is allowed to be sold in a UK sex shop must be censored, good luck censoring a third of the internet. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3871867.stm Scientologists rub their hands in glee as they gain a new weapon. Pointing out Mohammed was by modern standards a paedo == offence? Claiming the 'lost books' of the Bible that say Jesus had homosexual relations, served a hallucinogen at the last supper etc. exist == offence? Etcetera. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4247638.stm "Powers to tackle bookshops selling extremist material". So Mein Kampf is going to be a thoughtcrime here too? Maybe we could have public bonfires of the offending books while the security forces march around them and shout slogans, y'know, to drive the point home. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Hypothetical question...
John Meeks writes: > The new information about version 0.7 sounds pretty good, but one thing > about it concerns me. Assuming I don't know anyone who is using freenet, > how do I get onto the network? (Remember, I'm asking this about the next > version, since it says you can only connect if a "friend" lets you. > Assuming I don't have a friend already using freenet, how do I get > connected?) As I understand it there will be two options : join the opennet, which is public and harvestable like the current freenet (but hopefully has better performance etc), or join / create a private darknet which isn't. However, given that the routing model is predicated around the "friends form small-world networks" concept I think even the opennet is supposed to be joined via the noderefs of friend(s). This is of concern to me as well, I don't know anyone IRL who runs freenet. We could have a rotating public nodes system like we currently do with seednodes.ref, but surely this would horribly break the routing? > This change worries me (unless I'm mis-understanding it), since it > basically ties the network to a group of real-life friends, it creates a > nice friendly map that the authorities could use to find everyone > interested in a given subject. I don't think the Chinese government would > have any problems getting someone's computer and seeing all the "friends" > it lists. The idea of darknets is that they're not practical to detect. Assuming this is the case, if e.g. CCP busted one darknet-running dissident through some other means and got the chance to examine their computer, they could also find others in that darknet. Hopefully dissidents in such situations have the sense to organise like terrorist cells so that damage is limited in this case. > In short, it seems like this change would create a set of isolated > networks, and remove the plausable deniability of the previous network. True to some extent, but the whole point of darknets is that they are isolated and secret. There is already a seperate freenet 0.5 network in China. An opennet node could be run to push content from darknets onto the public network, or vice versa, although this is probably risky for a dissident to do. > The "network of trust" concept seems to me to be deeply flawed, since > spies have been able to infiltrate even the most guarded networks of > "friends" (ie. the Mafia, the Manhattan project, etc). Trusting "some guy > I met on the internet" doesn't seem like something I'd really want to do. Yeah, I could find freenet people on the 'net but not IRL, and as you say this makes strong trust difficult. Obviously core project people are trustworthy but if we all connect to them then AFAICS routing breaks (plus their nodes would likely be DDoS'd ..) > I guess another way to look at it is that the network seems to be going > towards being more useful for people in countries like China and less > useful for people in the US. Plausable deniability is more useful in the > US, whereas secrecy is more useful in China. While I feel for people in > China, I myself am in the US, and so therefore look at the project from my > point of view (especially in the current political climate). It is not beyond the bounds of possibility that freenet could be banned in western countries too. The UK gov for example is reactionary, authoritarian and power hungry - all it would take is one high-profile paedophille case or suchlike to whip the tabloids up into a frenzy, and a wish list bill pre-written by the security services could probably be rushed through parliament. We already have state level internet censorship and monitoring. The US is much the same, in spite of supposed constitutional free speech protections. > I'm also a bit concerned about the constant restarts, it seems that the > project is following the "fad security of the month" (although networks of > trust were around with PGP like 10 years ago). Well, as you see there will still be an opennet sort of like the current freenet. The reasons given over the months for the other changes and in particular the introduction of darknets all seem rational to me. It's a fact that freenet 0.5 doesn't perform very well, is harvestable etc and these problems need to be addressed somehow. > Anyway, the reason I'm asking about this is because I currently have > Paypal set up to donate $20/month to the project, but I'm not > sure if I like the direction it's going. > > Any better explanation of how this will work (mainly "how can I connect if > I don't already know someone") would be greately appreciated. > > Thanks. > > --- John Bob
[freenet-support] Re: Hypothetical question...
John Meeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The new information about version 0.7 sounds pretty good, but one thing about it concerns me. Assuming I don't know anyone who is using freenet, how do I get onto the network? (Remember, I'm asking this about the next version, since it says you can only connect if a friend lets you. Assuming I don't have a friend already using freenet, how do I get connected?) As I understand it there will be two options : join the opennet, which is public and harvestable like the current freenet (but hopefully has better performance etc), or join / create a private darknet which isn't. However, given that the routing model is predicated around the friends form small-world networks concept I think even the opennet is supposed to be joined via the noderefs of friend(s). This is of concern to me as well, I don't know anyone IRL who runs freenet. We could have a rotating public nodes system like we currently do with seednodes.ref, but surely this would horribly break the routing? This change worries me (unless I'm mis-understanding it), since it basically ties the network to a group of real-life friends, it creates a nice friendly map that the authorities could use to find everyone interested in a given subject. I don't think the Chinese government would have any problems getting someone's computer and seeing all the friends it lists. The idea of darknets is that they're not practical to detect. Assuming this is the case, if e.g. CCP busted one darknet-running dissident through some other means and got the chance to examine their computer, they could also find others in that darknet. Hopefully dissidents in such situations have the sense to organise like terrorist cells so that damage is limited in this case. In short, it seems like this change would create a set of isolated networks, and remove the plausable deniability of the previous network. True to some extent, but the whole point of darknets is that they are isolated and secret. There is already a seperate freenet 0.5 network in China. An opennet node could be run to push content from darknets onto the public network, or vice versa, although this is probably risky for a dissident to do. The network of trust concept seems to me to be deeply flawed, since spies have been able to infiltrate even the most guarded networks of friends (ie. the Mafia, the Manhattan project, etc). Trusting some guy I met on the internet doesn't seem like something I'd really want to do. Yeah, I could find freenet people on the 'net but not IRL, and as you say this makes strong trust difficult. Obviously core project people are trustworthy but if we all connect to them then AFAICS routing breaks (plus their nodes would likely be DDoS'd ..) I guess another way to look at it is that the network seems to be going towards being more useful for people in countries like China and less useful for people in the US. Plausable deniability is more useful in the US, whereas secrecy is more useful in China. While I feel for people in China, I myself am in the US, and so therefore look at the project from my point of view (especially in the current political climate). It is not beyond the bounds of possibility that freenet could be banned in western countries too. The UK gov for example is reactionary, authoritarian and power hungry - all it would take is one high-profile paedophille case or suchlike to whip the tabloids up into a frenzy, and a wish list bill pre-written by the security services could probably be rushed through parliament. We already have state level internet censorship and monitoring. The US is much the same, in spite of supposed constitutional free speech protections. I'm also a bit concerned about the constant restarts, it seems that the project is following the fad security of the month (although networks of trust were around with PGP like 10 years ago). Well, as you see there will still be an opennet sort of like the current freenet. The reasons given over the months for the other changes and in particular the introduction of darknets all seem rational to me. It's a fact that freenet 0.5 doesn't perform very well, is harvestable etc and these problems need to be addressed somehow. Anyway, the reason I'm asking about this is because I currently have Paypal set up to donate $20/month to the project, but I'm not sure if I like the direction it's going. Any better explanation of how this will work (mainly how can I connect if I don't already know someone) would be greately appreciated. Thanks. --- John Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Hypothetical question...
Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --snip-- No, there will be an opennet. It will probably operate on similar principles to the current 0.5 network, but will be 0.7. We could have a rotating public nodes system like we currently do with seednodes.ref, but surely this would horribly break the routing? Not necessarily. So the friend small-world thing is purely for the scalable darknet, and the opennet will use something like ngrouting? We have state level internet censorship? Slight hyperbole perhaps, but the apparatus is there and it seems to be happening. Right now known child porn sites are banned at the backbone/telco level, which is fine, but this shows worrying signs of being expanded. Next on the list is any criticism of a religion deemed to be hate speech, and porn deemed by some undefined party to be too violent. The proposed incitement to terrorism stuff is a bit open ended too. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4195332.stm OMG, must censor teh internets to protect our children because we have no parenting skills. As for the insinuation that any porn harder than is allowed to be sold in a UK sex shop must be censored, good luck censoring a third of the internet. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3871867.stm Scientologists rub their hands in glee as they gain a new weapon. Pointing out Mohammed was by modern standards a paedo == offence? Claiming the 'lost books' of the Bible that say Jesus had homosexual relations, served a hallucinogen at the last supper etc. exist == offence? Etcetera. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4247638.stm Powers to tackle bookshops selling extremist material. So Mein Kampf is going to be a thoughtcrime here too? Maybe we could have public bonfires of the offending books while the security forces march around them and shout slogans, y'know, to drive the point home. Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: freenet wont connect anymore.
Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you sure you are talking about the same Freenet we are? Please check http://freenetproject.org/ On Sun, Sep 04, 2005 at 10:34:48PM -0500, Andy Doucette wrote: Dear Freenet Support Community, I have been a happy freenet user for several weeks now. Today, my freenet broke. While my freenet server was running in the background, I accidentally did something that produced a blue screen of death. It had to do with moving a TV window from one monitor to the other, producing some sort of fault in my video card driver. My computer restarted, and I have not been able to connect to the freenet network ever since. What do you think could be wrong? Thanks for your help. ~Andy Assuming that this is in relation to freenet; I assume you're running it on windows? I'm not really familiar with how it works on that platform but a couple of things come to mind : - Lock files. On *nix a lock.lck file gets written to the main freenet directory on startup, to prevent more than one instance being run at a time. In the event of a crash though it wouldn't get deleted and would prevent the node restarting. So see if you have something like that in c:\Program Files\Freenet and delete it if so. - Inconsistent datastore versus index. I've never seen a node not cope with this by fixing the index but perhaps it can happen. If the above doesn't help try renaming (location of your freenet store)\index to something else, hopefully this will rebuild the index if that's the problem. - If neither of those help, look at (freenet directory)\freenet.log and hopefully it will tell you what the problem is. Unless you have turned logging off :) One possibility is that freenet is needing a huge amount of RAM at startup (so you need to increase the JavaMem size in Flaunch.ini), this is a known issue for some users on *nix ... Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
writes: > > After running Freenet for a while (Actually only 2 weeks this time), I > sometimes get the exclamation icon in the tray. The last thing in > freenet.log is: > > Exception in thread "YThread-2184" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap > space This is not a freenet bug as such, it's caused by it using a lot of memory and overrunning the default amount that java allocates. IIRC this is about 96MB on win2k which is a bit stingy these days. So, you need to allow it to have more (or/and reduce your maxNodeConnections, maximumThreads etc in freeenet.ini to try to make it use less. CofE reports that the newest JRE [1.5.0_04] seems to use more memory than previous ones so you could even try downgrading, but I would tend to recommend against that.) The way you are supposed to do it in windows is set the memory line in Flaunch.ini, in the directory where freenet is installed. By default it will look something like this : [Freenet Launcher] JavaExec=C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.2_02\bin\java.exe Javaw=C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.2_02\bin\javaw.exe JavaMem=default Priority=0 PriorityClass=64 Obviously you change the "JavaMem" line, it appears the format is e.g. "JavaMem=150" to set the maximum to 150MB. Incidentally, you can in theory increase this limit for all java apps you might run by going to control panel->java, then to the tab that lets you put in command line options for the JVM (you may see multiple ones), and adding e.g. "-Xmx150m". The "default" line in Flaunch.ini probably means to use whatever this system default is. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After running Freenet for a while (Actually only 2 weeks this time), I sometimes get the exclamation icon in the tray. The last thing in freenet.log is: Exception in thread YThread-2184 java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space This is not a freenet bug as such, it's caused by it using a lot of memory and overrunning the default amount that java allocates. IIRC this is about 96MB on win2k which is a bit stingy these days. So, you need to allow it to have more (or/and reduce your maxNodeConnections, maximumThreads etc in freeenet.ini to try to make it use less. CofE reports that the newest JRE [1.5.0_04] seems to use more memory than previous ones so you could even try downgrading, but I would tend to recommend against that.) The way you are supposed to do it in windows is set the memory line in Flaunch.ini, in the directory where freenet is installed. By default it will look something like this : [Freenet Launcher] JavaExec=C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.2_02\bin\java.exe Javaw=C:\Program Files\Java\j2re1.4.2_02\bin\javaw.exe JavaMem=default Priority=0 PriorityClass=64 Obviously you change the JavaMem line, it appears the format is e.g. JavaMem=150 to set the maximum to 150MB. Incidentally, you can in theory increase this limit for all java apps you might run by going to control panel-java, then to the tab that lets you put in command line options for the JVM (you may see multiple ones), and adding e.g. -Xmx150m. The default line in Flaunch.ini probably means to use whatever this system default is. Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Key
Ben writes: > I recently installed and started running freenet on Fedora Core 4, > everything went smoothly until I tried to start looking up indexes, and > it keeps returning the error that I have an invalid key. Just wondering > how I might go about taking care of that. > > lb Errors are normal for new nodes, it takes quite a long time for them to initially integrate into the network. (I believe there is hope this time can be reduced by 0.7.) Errors and their meanings : Route Not Found (RNF) : Your node doesn't know enough about the network to route this request at all yet. Solution : leave it up until it does :) You can speed this up by trying to request things, one way is to set aggressive browser timeouts (http://wikiserver.freenethelp.org:14741/SpeedingUpFreenet) open The Freedom Engine and leave it trying to retrieve the masses of activelinks. Data Not Found (DNF) : Can mean the data really isn't on the network, but for newbie nodes most probably means it is but it can't be found because routing is working poorly. Again, the solution is to wait till routing works. Unfortunately it can require days of total uptime to approach maximal performance :/ "Key not found in manifest" - the freesite author or their tools screwed up and mis-inserted the site, the key you tried to retrieve isn't where it claims to be. Bob
[freenet-support] Important new bugfixed release of Frost
Sorry if this is judged OT, but I believe Frost is a significant part of the "freenet experience" (heh) for quite a lot of people, and therefore it not really working is a serious problem. http://jtcfrost.sourceforge.net/ "Bugfix: problem computing the first empty index for message uploads was fixed (IMPORTANT)" Specificially, Frost has been seriously affected recently by the combination of a pathetically determined script spammer using rotating IDs and a nasty bug in Frost's upload handling. The effect, other than wading through spam (unless you mark everyone rational GOOD then ignore all CHECK messages but obviously this sucks,) was that posting could take a long time. The latter is fixed, so now you can theoretically post like before. However Frost still needs a proper web of trust sort of system to handle spamming. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: java.io.IOException: Too many open files
Bob writes: --snip-- Arrgh! He says file ulimit is unlimited in the original post. Sorry list, that'll teach me to read all of them in future. (Mods : delete this post and parent if you want) Bob
[freenet-support] Re: java.io.IOException: Too many open files
Julien Cornuwel writes: > Matthew Toseland a ?crit : > > >Does this happen after you start Freenet up, or had the node already > >been running for a while? It's quite possible we have a slow FD leak > >somewhere... --gmane filter snip-- > The problem is now solved (by flushing the datastore), thank you for > your answer. Also it is possible, though not very likely, that open files are being limited too much at the OS level. What do you see for "Open files" when you run "ulimit -a"? For reference mine is 1024, I assume this is the default Linux/bash value. Bob
[freenet-support] Re: java.io.IOException: Too many open files
Julien Cornuwel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Matthew Toseland a écrit : Does this happen after you start Freenet up, or had the node already been running for a while? It's quite possible we have a slow FD leak somewhere... --gmane filter snip-- The problem is now solved (by flushing the datastore), thank you for your answer. Also it is possible, though not very likely, that open files are being limited too much at the OS level. What do you see for Open files when you run ulimit -a? For reference mine is 1024, I assume this is the default Linux/bash value. Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Locally optimized BigInteger Library
Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can you send me a diff -uw on the file? On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 08:35:56PM -0400, Josh Watzman wrote: Hello- I wrote a few months ago about how to get jbigi loaded using a locally-compiled library. This would allow people with unsupported systems (such as PPC Linux or even Mac OS X) to get the advantages of the jbigi library. I2P has allowed this by placing the library in the same folder as the jar file; freenet did not, even though I was told that the code was taken mostly verbatim from I2P. --snip-- Well this is certainly better, thanks for working it out. For the record you can run with jbigi on unsupported platforms right now by repackaging freenet-ext.jar and overwriting whatever generic fallback library it tries to load with your freshly compiled native one, but arguably this isn't very user friendly :) Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: java.io.IOException: Too many open files
Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --snip-- Arrgh! He says file ulimit is unlimited in the original post. Sorry list, that'll teach me to read all of them in future. (Mods : delete this post and parent if you want) Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Important new bugfixed release of Frost
Sorry if this is judged OT, but I believe Frost is a significant part of the freenet experience (heh) for quite a lot of people, and therefore it not really working is a serious problem. http://jtcfrost.sourceforge.net/ Bugfix: problem computing the first empty index for message uploads was fixed (IMPORTANT) Specificially, Frost has been seriously affected recently by the combination of a pathetically determined script spammer using rotating IDs and a nasty bug in Frost's upload handling. The effect, other than wading through spam (unless you mark everyone rational GOOD then ignore all CHECK messages but obviously this sucks,) was that posting could take a long time. The latter is fixed, so now you can theoretically post like before. However Frost still needs a proper web of trust sort of system to handle spamming. Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Which Linux for freenet?
Matthew Exon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bob wrote: I'd recommend looking at Ubuntu (or kUbuntu which uses KDE and is therefore a bit more windows-like), Fedora Core and similar. As far as Java goes, Ubuntu doesn't come with Java out of the box, although there are at least some fairly clear instructions for installing it: Well no, but the last I heard no distros did apart from Sun's Java desktop thing and Novell/Suse's enterprise edition, due to Sun's astonishingly stupid redistribution policies. However recently that *finally* changed (you may redistribute either the JDK or Java 2 Runtime Environment with your software. http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/runtime.html) so perhaps there are others now. Since it only covers bundling with your apps you still have to manually download it from Sun's official site if you just want to install it on its own or upgrade, proving that Sun's management are still morons. Hmm, technically you could bundle it with a 1kb HelloWorld.jar to get it on distro mirrors, I wonder if anyone has tried this :) It could be genuinely useful too, the package system could run it post-install to verify the install ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto Fedora Core doesn't either. It comes with some scary-looking warnings about what can go wrong if you try to install it the wrong way, and terrible instructions: http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/fc4/#id2503931 Personally I don't like Red Hat and have never used FC. I mentioned it because it appears to be fairly popular as a normal user distro and from screenshots I've seen of the unified desktop it looks pretty friendly/usable for such people. My primary recommendation would still be Ubuntu/kUbuntu though. Bob ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
