[freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

2008-09-22 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
Yes, that is normal. People are downloading files from you. That's how
Freenet works.

On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Art Charbonneau wrote:

>  On my freenet homepage I noticed in the stats that 5 uploads were active
> even though I had not initiated any uploads. Is this normal, or is something
> amiss?
>
> Also, when Firefox (ver 3.02) comes up, there is no menu item 'Tools', so I
> can't disable the cache or history. Can I change this somewhere?
>
> Running version 0.7, latest build, and Vista.
>
> Thanks
> Gofer
>
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[freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 build 947

2006-08-16 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
You really ought to get a second mailing list for the 0.7 network.
Because I'm pretty sure no one here cares until there's an opennet.

On 8/16/06, Matthew Toseland  wrote:
> Freenet build 947 is now available. This build simply makes 944
> mandatory as of midnight GMT on Monday (the 21st). This is important
> because of various relatively minor changes in recent builds to load
> balancing and the lower layers of Freenet: making load limiting data
> persistent, increasing averaging intervals for ping times, a low level
> bugfix, some timeout changes and "slow start" support (a technique
> borrowed from TCP to estimate link capacity quickly before getting into
> slowly adjusting it). Please upgrade.
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[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-21 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
.7 has very few users, very little content, and no opennet.
It's useless for new users.

And the security that you say is better has yet to be tested. I
wouldn't bet on something that's only been around for a few months vs.
something that's been slowly improving for...well, longer than I've
known freenet.


On 8/21/06, Julien Cornuwel  wrote:
> an ominous cow herd a ?crit :
>
> >I can empathize.  Freenet is is one of the first projects that I've seen take
> >a working application and push it aside, while directing new users to an
> >alpha version.  The way it would normally be done is listing Freenet 0.5 as
> >the stable version instead of the "unsupported" version, and 0.7 as the alpha
> >version still under development.  New users would opt for the stable version.
> >Having new users directed to an alpha version while the stable version is
> >fully functioning is quite strange.
> >
> >
>
> My point of view is that Freenet has always been a work-in-progress. The
> 0.5 version you call "stable" was under developpement just before
> becoming unsupported. It has never been stable : google a bit and you'll
> find scripts for restarting it every night because of its "unstability".
>
> Did you try both versions ? If yes, you should have noticed that they
> are quite as stable and that 0.7 offers far better performances and
> AFAIK the same security level.
>
> So, why should the developpers of the project push newcomers to an
> old/buggy/unsupported/user-hostile network while they are working on
> another one that is *already* better ?
>
> My 2 cents
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[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-21 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
"Anyway, I won't argue on that because the decision is not in my hands.
The fact is that 0.7 is the only supported version and that it is the
future. Not linking to the current version and gripping to the old one
would be an interesting kind of suicide for a project that's a constant
work-in-progress..."

Suicide? So the fact that gaim has 1.5 in their downloads section when
they have 2.0 beta 3 out is suicide? The fact that some Linux distros
still use the 2.4 kernel is suicide? Funny how they're all still here
and quite popular
Linking to 0.7 is suicide. New people come, download it, find there's
nothing there, and leave. And don't try again later. I understand that
there are good reasons behind developing the darknetbut for most
users looking at freenet, they're looking for an opennet. And they're
looking for a network up and running. They're not expecting something
that's just barely starting.

On 8/21/06, Julien Cornuwel  wrote:
> urza9814 at gmail.com a ?crit :
>
> > .7 has very few users, very little content, and no opennet.
> > It's useless for new users.
>
>
> I'm not sure stopping linking it on the website would help it have more
> users. About content, I see new freesites apearing quite the same rythm
> as on 0.5 so it's just a matter of time for 0.7 to have as much content
> as 0.5.
>
> > And the security that you say is better has yet to be tested. I
>
>
> Where did I say that ? In "the same security level." ?
> AFAIK, "the same" is not equal to "better". Maybe I'm wrong.
>
> > wouldn't bet on something that's only been around for a few months vs.
> > something that's been slowly improving for...well, longer than I've
> > known freenet.
>
>
> Anyway, I won't argue on that because the decision is not in my hands.
> The fact is that 0.7 is the only supported version and that it is the
> future. Not linking to the current version and gripping to the old one
> would be an interesting kind of suicide for a project that's a constant
> work-in-progress...
>
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[freenet-support] Freenet 0.5 or Freenet 0.7

2006-08-23 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
With 0.5's opennet you don't have to exchange node references. At all.
Your node does it for you. And you'll usually have around 400
connections with the default settings. And 0.5 has more content and
probably more users, though I'm not sure on that one.


On 8/23/06, diddler4u at hotmail.com  wrote:
> I'm new to Freenet and have been watching the discussion about version 0.5
> vs 0.7. I'm not sure what is meant when the 0.5 advocates talk about
> OpenNet, so could someone enlighten me? I went to the Freenet site hoping to
> find information related to 0.5, even in the WIKI, but it now only contains
> information about 0.7.
>
> I have dedicate an unmonitored Windows XP Pro machine and 1/3 of my
> bandwidth to Freenet. I downloaded and installed 0.7, a no brainer, and got
> it running, but had no nodes to connect to. I had to know another Freenet
> user, preferably someone I knew and trusted, and manually establish a
> connection to them, and they in turn had to have established a connection to
> someone else. Since I know absolutely no other person who is running Freenet
> I had to learn how to use IRC Chat so I could ask someone if I could connect
> to them. These connections are my sole points of contact to Freenet. I have
> no idea how 0.5 handles finding nodes. I don't know who these people are.
> For all I know they could be individuals living on the other side of town,
> the country, or the world and they could just as easily be members of MI5,
> FBI, CIA, or any number of other organizations who monitor and track
> messages on the internet. I do know their IP address, and they know mine. I
> tried to find some people who run 24/7 since having a PC dedicated to Freent
> fulltime, without having someone who is also on 24/7 is not worth much.
>
> I have 7 people who have exchanged node information with me. Of the 7 nodes,
> none are currently connected to me, and if I understand the information, the
> last to go offline did so more than 14 hours ago. I can wait to see if they
> come back online, or I can go back into the IRC chat and try to find new
> nodes. I absolutely hate having to spend time in IRC chat trying to get
> people to exchange connection information with me. I have better things to
> spend my time on, and if Freenet wants my machine and bandwidth it's going
> to have to make sure it stays connected.
>
> Freenet should have me put in a single node, any node, even one found on IRC
> chat, and spider the rest of Freenet establishing and making new connection
> to ensure it stays connected, or it should do something else to
> automatically establish connections. At any rate, once that connection is
> made, Freenet should randomly move my connections throughout the Freenet. I
> should never have hard and firm connections. By 'floating' my connections
> throughout Freenet it can honestly be said I don't know who I'm connected to
> and am simply a node in a collective whole.
>
> I'm going to continue to watch the forum and see how things progress. I'll
> leave my current 0.7 Freenet installed and over the coming weeks decide
> whether to continue, remove and install 0.5, or just shut down completely.
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[freenet-support] Freenet 0.5 or Freenet 0.7

2006-08-23 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
My bad. 400 known nodes. Though...I have 50 connections right now and
I'm not doing anything. Not running frost, not surving any sites...all
inbound I guess.

On 8/23/06, Matthew Toseland  wrote:
> 400 connections? I hardly ever saw more than 100.
>
> On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 09:09:59AM -0400, urza9814 at gmail.com wrote:
> > With 0.5's opennet you don't have to exchange node references. At all.
> > Your node does it for you. And you'll usually have around 400
> > connections with the default settings. And 0.5 has more content and
> > probably more users, though I'm not sure on that one.
> >
> >
> > On 8/23/06, diddler4u at hotmail.com  wrote:
> > >I'm new to Freenet and have been watching the discussion about version 0.5
> > >vs 0.7. I'm not sure what is meant when the 0.5 advocates talk about
> > >OpenNet, so could someone enlighten me? I went to the Freenet site hoping
> > >to
> > >find information related to 0.5, even in the WIKI, but it now only contains
> > >information about 0.7.
> > >
> > >I have dedicate an unmonitored Windows XP Pro machine and 1/3 of my
> > >bandwidth to Freenet. I downloaded and installed 0.7, a no brainer, and got
> > >it running, but had no nodes to connect to. I had to know another Freenet
> > >user, preferably someone I knew and trusted, and manually establish a
> > >connection to them, and they in turn had to have established a connection
> > >to
> > >someone else. Since I know absolutely no other person who is running
> > >Freenet
> > >I had to learn how to use IRC Chat so I could ask someone if I could
> > >connect
> > >to them. These connections are my sole points of contact to Freenet. I have
> > >no idea how 0.5 handles finding nodes. I don't know who these people are.
> > >For all I know they could be individuals living on the other side of town,
> > >the country, or the world and they could just as easily be members of MI5,
> > >FBI, CIA, or any number of other organizations who monitor and track
> > >messages on the internet. I do know their IP address, and they know mine. I
> > >tried to find some people who run 24/7 since having a PC dedicated to
> > >Freent
> > >fulltime, without having someone who is also on 24/7 is not worth much.
> > >
> > >I have 7 people who have exchanged node information with me. Of the 7
> > >nodes,
> > >none are currently connected to me, and if I understand the information,
> > >the
> > >last to go offline did so more than 14 hours ago. I can wait to see if they
> > >come back online, or I can go back into the IRC chat and try to find new
> > >nodes. I absolutely hate having to spend time in IRC chat trying to get
> > >people to exchange connection information with me. I have better things to
> > >spend my time on, and if Freenet wants my machine and bandwidth it's going
> > >to have to make sure it stays connected.
> > >
> > >Freenet should have me put in a single node, any node, even one found on
> > >IRC
> > >chat, and spider the rest of Freenet establishing and making new connection
> > >to ensure it stays connected, or it should do something else to
> > >automatically establish connections. At any rate, once that connection is
> > >made, Freenet should randomly move my connections throughout the Freenet. I
> > >should never have hard and firm connections. By 'floating' my connections
> > >throughout Freenet it can honestly be said I don't know who I'm connected
> > >to
> > >and am simply a node in a collective whole.
> > >
> > >I'm going to continue to watch the forum and see how things progress. I'll
> > >leave my current 0.7 Freenet installed and over the coming weeks decide
> > >whether to continue, remove and install 0.5, or just shut down completely.
> > >
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[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-23 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
0.7 isn't a stable version either. It's a not nearly completed, far
from functional version.

On 8/23/06, Ortwin Regel  wrote:
> 0.5 isn't a stable version. It's an outdated version that many people
> happen to use. Of course you can keep using 0.5 and slowly watch it
> die, or even try to keep it alive. But the freenet team wants you to
> populate 0.7 so they can improve it. It's unfortunate that it scares
> away a few users too lazy to run 0.7 but they will come back once it's
> better and stable.
>
> On 8/22/06, an ominous cow herd  wrote:
> > I don't think that the 0.5 network needs active coding. It's fine the way it
> > is. It should be stated that there will be no patches or bug fixes for the
> > 0.5 network, but putting it in small print and calling it "unsupported" 
> > while
> > directing new users to the alpha 0.7 network just doesn't make sense. The
> > 0.5 network should be called the stable version and 0.7 should be the
> > unstable version, just like it was done in the past. If users ask questions,
> > they should be directed to the wiki. Why the big push to get new users on
> > the 0.7 network while it's still in the alpha stage?
> >
> > On Monday 21 August 2006 14:35, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> > > We don't have a big enough team to actively support both.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 11:31:38PM -0700, an ominous cow herd wrote:
> > > > I can empathize.  Freenet is is one of the first projects that I've seen
> > > > take a working application and push it aside, while directing new users
> > > > to an alpha version.  The way it would normally be done is listing
> > > > Freenet 0.5 as the stable version instead of the "unsupported" version,
> > > > and 0.7 as the alpha version still under development.  New users would
> > > > opt for the stable version. Having new users directed to an alpha 
> > > > version
> > > > while the stable version is fully functioning is quite strange.
> > > >
> > > > On Saturday 19 August 2006 08:11, - wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I think you're making a mistake in forcing new people into the beta
> > > > > test freenet 0.7 instead of the established 0.5.
> > > > >
> > > > > You're forgetting how _highly_ someone new has to be motivated to try
> > > > > freenet, even version 0.5 which works and is not a beta test. Let's
> > > > > think about what would motivate someone...
> > > > >
> > > > > I remember when I found freenet, I installed it spent hours reading
> > > > > over the technical jargon.
> > > > > It was incredible slow. I removed it thinking this is a pile of crap
> > > > > that does not work.
> > > > >
> > > > > Only a few months later, did I again bother to go through this
> > > > > complicated process and after waiting for three days with it on, it
> > > > > finally started working.
> > > > >
> > > > > The reason I spent many hours and went back after throwing it out 
> > > > > once,
> > > > > was because I was _highly motivated_ for the anonymity and content.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here's the problem:
> > > > >
> > > > > If 0.7 doesn't offer the anonymity and the content, plus it's an
> > > > > unstable beta test,
> > > > > why would anyone new bother to join the community?
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you think people are nice enough to offer their time and computers
> > > > > to beta test some random highly technical peer to peer application 
> > > > > that
> > > > > completely hogs your computer's resources?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The problem with freenet (even 0.5) is, it just isn't user friendly.
> > > > > A person who just stumbles on freenet does not know if it's actually
> > > > > going to work. After seeing how slow it is, most people, like myself
> > > > > will just get rid of it, not bothering to learn all the 
> > > > > configurations,
> > > > > frost, fuqid, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you took the time to create a simple, down-to-earth website and
> > > > > install program without all the technical jargon, you would double or
> > > > > triple your user base.
> > > > >
> > > > > The only NEW users you're going to get to freenet 0.7 are going to be
> > > > > peer-to-peer programming enthusiasts. And how many of those are there
> > > > > that don't know about freenet already?
> > > > >
> > > > > So instead of scaring all potential freenet users away, It would be
> > > > > wiser to just ask members of the freenet community to do the beta
> > > > > testing, and create a nice user friendly website for 0,5 until 0,7 is
> > > > > working. Even I would be willing to help create this website, and I'm
> > > > > sure many other people also would volunteer.
> > > > >
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> > > > >
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[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-23 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
It has no opennet. As far as I'm concerned, it's useless.

On 8/23/06, Ortwin Regel  wrote:
> Wrong, it works quite well so it's functional. It's not completed but it
> needs users to progress.
>
>
> On 8/24/06, urza9814 at gmail.com  wrote:
> >
> 0.7 isn't a stable version either. It's a not nearly completed, far
> from functional version.
>
> On 8/23/06, Ortwin Regel  wrote:
> > 0.5 isn't a stable version. It's an outdated version that many people
> > happen to use. Of course you can keep using 0.5 and slowly watch it
> > die, or even try to keep it alive. But the freenet team wants you to
> > populate 0.7 so they can improve it. It's unfortunate that it scares
> > away a few users too lazy to run 0.7 but they will come back once it's
> > better and stable.
> >
> > On 8/22/06, an ominous cow herd
>  wrote:
> > > I don't think that the 0.5 network needs active coding. It's fine the
> way it
> > > is. It should be stated that there will be no patches or bug fixes for
> the
> > > 0.5 network, but putting it in small print and calling it "unsupported"
> while
> > > directing new users to the alpha 0.7 network just doesn't make sense.
> The
> > > 0.5 network should be called the stable version and 0.7 should be the
> > > unstable version, just like it was done in the past. If users ask
> questions,
> > > they should be directed to the wiki. Why the big push to get new users
> on
> > > the 0.7 network while it's still in the alpha stage?
> > >
> > > On Monday 21 August 2006 14:35, Matthew Toseland wrote:
> > > > We don't have a big enough team to actively support both.
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 11:31:38PM -0700, an ominous cow herd wrote:
> > > > > I can empathize.  Freenet is is one of the first projects that I've
> seen
> > > > > take a working application and push it aside, while directing new
> users
> > > > > to an alpha version.  The way it would normally be done is listing
> > > > > Freenet 0.5 as the stable version instead of the "unsupported"
> version,
> > > > > and 0.7 as the alpha version still under development.  New users
> would
> > > > > opt for the stable version. Having new users directed to an alpha
> version
> > > > > while the stable version is fully functioning is quite strange.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Saturday 19 August 2006 08:11, - wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think you're making a mistake in forcing new people into the
> beta
> > > > > > test freenet 0.7 instead of the established 0.5.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You're forgetting how _highly_ someone new has to be motivated to
> try
> > > > > > freenet, even version 0.5 which works and is not a beta test.
> Let's
> > > > > > think about what would motivate someone...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I remember when I found freenet, I installed it spent hours
> reading
> > > > > > over the technical jargon.
> > > > > > It was incredible slow. I removed it thinking this is a pile of
> crap
> > > > > > that does not work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Only a few months later, did I again bother to go through this
> > > > > > complicated process and after waiting for three days with it on,
> it
> > > > > > finally started working.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The reason I spent many hours and went back after throwing it out
> once,
> > > > > > was because I was _highly motivated_ for the anonymity and
> content.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here's the problem:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If 0.7 doesn't offer the anonymity and the content, plus it's an
> > > > > > unstable beta test,
> > > > > > why would anyone new bother to join the community?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you think people are nice enough to offer their time and
> computers
> > > > > > to beta test some random highly technical peer to peer application
> that
> > > > > > completely hogs your computer's resources?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The problem with freenet (even 0.5) is, it just isn't user
> friendly.
> > > > > > A person who just stumbles on freenet does not know if it's
> actually
> > > > > > going to work. After seeing how slow it is, most people, like
> myself
> > > > > > will just get rid of it, not bothering to learn all the
> configurations,
> > > > > > frost, fuqid, etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you took the time to create a simple, down-to-earth website and
> > > > > > install program without all the technical jargon, you would double
> or
> > > > > > triple your user base.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The only NEW users you're going to get to freenet 0.7 are going to
> be
> > > > > > peer-to-peer programming enthusiasts. And how many of those are
> there
> > > > > > that don't know about freenet already?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So instead of scaring all potential freenet users away, It would
> be
> > > > > > wiser to just ask members of the freenet community to do the beta
> > > > > > testing, and create a nice user friendly website for 0,5 until 0,7
> is
> > > > > > working. Even I would be willing to help create this website, and
> I'm

[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-24 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
Freenet 0.5 is an opennet. You connect to any random node that happens
to be on. Freenet 0.7 doesn't have this yet. In 0.7, there is no main
network. There might be now, but the idea of the way it currently is
setup is to allow small groups to connect without connecting to
everyone else. Pretty much, there's nowhere for the content to go.
It'd be like trying to move everything on the internet to your local
LAN.
That, and it's just a complete program re-write I believe. It's quite
easy to 'convert' the content...open a page, save it, and then
re-upload it. The data stores work differently, and anyways the data
is distributed, so there wouldn't be any easy way to move it over.

On 8/24/06, diddler4u at hotmail.com  wrote:
> I've got a question for the developers.
>
> First a couple of comments.
>
> I've been watching the thread 0.5 vs 0.7, and although you want to move it
> somewhere else I welcome it.
>
> I brought up 0.7 about 5 days ago. It's been running ever since, I think. I
> don't monitor the PC that it is on, but I do see activity on the router port
> for the PC. I didn't much like the idea of asking people to let me access
> Freenet through them, but I did. I still think that is a good idea to gain
> initial access to Freenet, but after that it should go find other nodes and
> establish connections to them. I shouldn't have to always rely on the ones
> that were on IRC chat at the time I decided to set up the application.
>
> That said, here is by question.
>
> >From what I've seen here, there is a huge base of Freenet users on 0.5, and
> a large amount of content. What I fail to understand is why going to version
> 0.7 all of that userbase and content was dropped. Why there was no way to
> connect to that Freenet and have access to the users and the content. I've
> tried to think of an example of some other internet application that made
> such a radical change that the entire existing base was dropped, and quite
> frankly I can't come up with one. I've seen application for my PC change so
> radically the data from the old application had to be converted before it
> would work, but a migration path was always provided. Developers, why did
> you do that?
>
> I'm new to the Freenet community, and I find it incredulous that years of
> effort involved with building the Freenet community was abandoned
> completely. What you have created is a 0.5 and a 0.7 Freenet; both will
> exist into the future. Just as many security conscious people quit upgrading
> PGP after 6.52 because source code was no longer readily available, many
> people will quit upgrading Freenet after 0.5. The difference is with PGP a
> file encrypted with 6.52 can be read by the newer versions. Freenet has
> isolated all of it's previous userbase and content.
>
> There is a saying, "Throwing out the baby with the bath water." You have
> done just that.
>
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Migration path, please! (Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7

2006-08-24 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
0.7 is currently darknet only. 0.5 is opennet only.

On 8/24/06, diddler4u at hotmail.com  wrote:
> So by running 0.7 in default mode I'm running in darknet? Or is there
> another piece of the freenet puzzle I need to discover?
>
>
> >From: "Evan Daniel" 
> >Reply-To: evand at pobox.com, support at freenetproject.org
> >To: "diddler4u at hotmail.com" 
> >CC: support at freenetproject.org
> >Subject: Re: Migration path, please! (Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5
> >and 0,7
> >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:46:11 -0400
> >
> >On 8/24/06, diddler4u at hotmail.com  wrote:
> >>Evan,
> >>
> >>Would you define this statement? "they're (developers) working against a
> >>very real
> >>clock."
> >
> >Happily.  At some point, running Freenet will (likely) become illegal,
> >assuming current trends continue.  This includes in the West.  It may
> >already be in France.  It is safe to assume that developing Freenet
> >will have the same legal status, whatever that may be.
> >
> >When that happens, the darknet needs to be sufficiently functional for
> >development to move off the public net and onto the darknet.  If the
> >darknet can't support a collaborative development effort by then, we
> >have a real problem.  It may or may not be enough to kill Freenet
> >entirely, but it would be a big enough setback to make data resets and
> >incompatible versions look rosy by comparison.
> >
> >Evan
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[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-24 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
"As I see it 0.7 relies on a bunch of people hooking up by sharing node
information. I may be a part of a freenet 0.7 network that consists of less
than 20 people. Out there somewhere else is another group of people, but
that group might be 100 people. Unless someone in the 2 groups makes a
connection, shares node information, the 2 groups don't talk to each other.
Making matters worse, the only connection they have is through that one
shared connection. There is no redundancy. Am I wrong in this assumption?"

Yup...pretty much. That's why so many people refuse to switch to 0.7
until there's a working opennet. I'm one of them. With an opennet, you
connect to anyone who's online, with multiple connections. Don't have
to trade references and you get a lot more connections with no effort.
Not totally sure about the 'if the one node linking them dies you lose
all that data' part...seems like that's how it'd be handled, but I
haven't looked into 0.7 too much...because it has no opennet, so I
have no use for it.

On 8/24/06, diddler4u at hotmail.com  wrote:
> What about a pipe to the 0.5 freenet from 0.7 that allows access to the
> data? A 1-way street. 0.7 can add  data to the 0.7 freenet, but can and to
> the 0.5 freenet. Only access the data. From what I have gathered,
> 'inserting' data into freenet is not a quick task.
>
> As I see it 0.7 relies on a bunch of people hooking up by sharing node
> information. I may be a part of a freenet 0.7 network that consists of less
> than 20 people. Out there somewhere else is another group of people, but
> that group might be 100 people. Unless someone in the 2 groups makes a
> connection, shares node information, the 2 groups don't talk to each other.
> Making matters worse, the only connection they have is through that one
> shared connection. There is no redundancy. Am I wrong in this assumption?
>
>
>
>
> >From: urza9814 at gmail.com
> >Reply-To: support at freenetproject.org
> >To: support at freenetproject.org
> >Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7
> >Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:01:46 -0400
> >
> >Freenet 0.5 is an opennet. You connect to any random node that happens
> >to be on. Freenet 0.7 doesn't have this yet. In 0.7, there is no main
> >network. There might be now, but the idea of the way it currently is
> >setup is to allow small groups to connect without connecting to
> >everyone else. Pretty much, there's nowhere for the content to go.
> >It'd be like trying to move everything on the internet to your local
> >LAN.
> >That, and it's just a complete program re-write I believe. It's quite
> >easy to 'convert' the content...open a page, save it, and then
> >re-upload it. The data stores work differently, and anyways the data
> >is distributed, so there wouldn't be any easy way to move it over.
> >
> >On 8/24/06, diddler4u at hotmail.com  wrote:
> >>I've got a question for the developers.
> >>
> >>First a couple of comments.
> >>
> >>I've been watching the thread 0.5 vs 0.7, and although you want to move it
> >>somewhere else I welcome it.
> >>
> >>I brought up 0.7 about 5 days ago. It's been running ever since, I think.
> >>I
> >>don't monitor the PC that it is on, but I do see activity on the router
> >>port
> >>for the PC. I didn't much like the idea of asking people to let me access
> >>Freenet through them, but I did. I still think that is a good idea to gain
> >>initial access to Freenet, but after that it should go find other nodes
> >>and
> >>establish connections to them. I shouldn't have to always rely on the ones
> >>that were on IRC chat at the time I decided to set up the application.
> >>
> >>That said, here is by question.
> >>
> >> >From what I've seen here, there is a huge base of Freenet users on 0.5,
> >>and
> >>a large amount of content. What I fail to understand is why going to
> >>version
> >>0.7 all of that userbase and content was dropped. Why there was no way to
> >>connect to that Freenet and have access to the users and the content. I've
> >>tried to think of an example of some other internet application that made
> >>such a radical change that the entire existing base was dropped, and quite
> >>frankly I can't come up with one. I've seen application for my PC change
> >>so
> >>radically the data from the old application had to be converted before it
> >>would work, but a migration path was always provided. Developers, why did
> >>you do that?
> >>
> >>I'm new to the Freenet community, and I find it incredulous that years of
> >>effort involved with building the Freenet community was abandoned
> >>completely. What you have created is a 0.5 and a 0.7 Freenet; both will
> >>exist into the future. Just as many security conscious people quit
> >>upgrading
> >>PGP after 6.52 because source code was no longer readily available, many
> >>people will quit upgrading Freenet after 0.5. The difference is with PGP a
> >>file encrypted with 6.52 can be read by the newer versions. Freenet has
> >>isolated all of it's previous 

Migration path, please! (Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7

2006-08-24 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
opennets are only bad in certain circumstances. The USA is not yet one
of them. With a darknet, it may be harder to get into the network, but
once your in it's a LOT easier to identify who is sharing and
inserting what files. So it could be argued that a darknet is much
riskier than an opennet. In a darknet, everyone else pretty much knows
who you are. As soon as one computer on the net gets compromised or
one person decides they don't like what you're doing, you're all
pretty much screwed. I mean, I'm no expert on darknets, but it seems
that if you only have 5 or 10 connections, and you always have the
same connections, and you have IRC logs swapping node refs and, better
yet, the actual node ref...it would be pretty easy to figure out what
nodes host what files. In an opennet, this kind of thing is expected
and protected against.

On 8/24/06, Juiceman  wrote:
> On 8/24/06, diddler4u at hotmail.com  wrote:
> > So by running 0.7 in default mode I'm running in darknet? Or is there
> > another piece of the freenet puzzle I need to discover?
> >
> >
>
> It is a "darknet" because unless you give out your ref to someone
> (like currently on IRC but that will change when 0.7 becomes large
> enough for users to know friends using 0.7), it almost impractical to
> tell you are even running Freenet.  The "open-net" is promiscuous and
> is easily mapped.  See
> http://www.itic.ca/DIC/News/archive.html#2004-05-25
>
> They can have your IP address and with an ignorant judge, the RIAA
> MPAA etc can serve you a lawsuit for copyright violations (regardless
> of whether or not you are infringing.)  All they have to do is
> convince a technologically ignorant judge that Freenet is like the old
> Napster or similar program and they traced "copyrighted material"
> coming off your IP address.  You are now hiring a lawyer to get the
> case dismissed.  That is a plausible reason to use a darknet instead
> of an open-net here in the "free" West.  Now imagine running the
> program can get you thrown in jail for "subversive information
> spreading" in some Eastern country and they can collect the info just
> as quickly with an open-net...  A darknet would slow them down
> immensely.
>
> Now you see why open-nets are bad in the long run?
>
>
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[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-26 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
Through the opennet. Which won't exist for, like, a year.
Hmmm.

On 8/26/06, diddler4u at hotmail.com  wrote:
> >>Freenet 0.5 is an opennet. You connect to any random node that happens
> >>to be on. Freenet 0.7 doesn't have this yet. In 0.7, there is no main
> >>network. There might be now, but the idea of the way it currently is
> >>setup is to allow small groups to connect without connecting to
> >>everyone else.
> >
> >That is not true.  Freenet 0.7 is designed to form one global  network, not
> >multiple independent networks consisting of small groups.
> >
> >Ian.
>
> Ian,
>
> How can freenet grow to be a global network unless someone in one group
> trades connection information with someone in another group?
>
> Hypothetical - A group of people in England, another in France, another in
> Russia, and another in China have grown individual trusted 0.7 freenets. No
> one in any of these groups knows someone in the other freenet group, and
> they don't want to just advertise in IRC chat to find someone to connect to
> because they don't know and trust this as a way to add people to their
> freenet. How will these freenet groups become a part of a global network?
>
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[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-27 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
Yea, but you don't know all the nodes in the network, you just know
the ones your connected to. So if one of those links between the
networks goes down, half your downloads stall out and die. And
wouldn't that put a pretty big strain on certain computers? I mean, if
you get this global network of small networks...90% of the data you
request will probably be on another 'network'. The number of
connections between these networks is going to be a lot smaller than
connections within the network. Therefore the computers that connect
between them are gonna have a much greater strain on them than the
ones that are only linked to one 'network'. And if these individual
networks fully connect and integrate...you have an opennet. Except you
have to physically get your node connections from someone else. So you
have an opennet with much fewer connections, which doesn't seem like a
good thing.


On 8/26/06, Evan Daniel  wrote:
> On 8/26/06, diddler4u at hotmail.com  wrote:
> > >>Freenet 0.5 is an opennet. You connect to any random node that happens
> > >>to be on. Freenet 0.7 doesn't have this yet. In 0.7, there is no main
> > >>network. There might be now, but the idea of the way it currently is
> > >>setup is to allow small groups to connect without connecting to
> > >>everyone else.
> > >
> > >That is not true.  Freenet 0.7 is designed to form one global  network, not
> > >multiple independent networks consisting of small groups.
> > >
> > >Ian.
> >
> > Ian,
> >
> > How can freenet grow to be a global network unless someone in one group
> > trades connection information with someone in another group?
> >
> > Hypothetical - A group of people in England, another in France, another in
> > Russia, and another in China have grown individual trusted 0.7 freenets. No
> > one in any of these groups knows someone in the other freenet group, and
> > they don't want to just advertise in IRC chat to find someone to connect to
> > because they don't know and trust this as a way to add people to their
> > freenet. How will these freenet groups become a part of a global network?
>
> They won't.  But your assumptions are off -- there's lots of good
> reasons to assume that once a small local network passes a handful of
> connected users it will gain a connection to a different network.  And
> then you have a global network.  This is what is meant when people say
> 0.7 is designed to form a global network -- there is no magic, except
> for the underlying properties of the social connections the network is
> built upon.
>
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[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-27 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
I got nothing. No 'icon', no tags to place an icon, nothing.

On 8/27/06, Nicholas Sturm  wrote:
> When I opened the message below all that displayed was an icon.  When I
> attempted to save the icon all hell broke loose.  My mail client was
> closed.  After some attempts I was able to reboot and the spamblocker
> (earthlink) had examined the message and found nothing suspicious.  However
> now I found that a message was displayed as shown below.  A similar
> behavior with the message immediately preceding and with the same "i" icon.
> Anyone have some suggestions of what had happened or why the message
> behaved so peculiarly?  Incidently the icon was "utitled" when I attempted
> to save it -- my common practice when a mail message appears to be peculiar.
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: 
> > To: 
> > Date: 8/27/2006 12:19:54 AM
> > Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7
> >
> > I agree. I wouldn't want to be the only connection between 2 networks, or
> > even one of a small few. I simply don't have the bandwidth. Maybe a T1 or
> T3
> > could handle it, but not what 90+% of the people using freenet would have
> to
> > work with.
> >
> > As I follow these threads I begin to see a core group of people that are
> > promoting 0.7 as the way to go. They have ideas about how it will work,
> but
> > so far I haven't seen convincing evidence to show how it's going to
> actually
> > do what they say. I understand 0.7 is in it's infancy, but it's really
> > premature and living in an incubator. It's got a long way to go to be
> able
> > to meet the level of use people are claiming it will have.
> >
> > I was running 0.7, I'm in the process of changing OS on the PC that was
> > running it, but I did not like having to exchange information with
> someone
> > on IRC. It's the first time I've ever had anything to do with IRC, and
> > though some people are IRC advocates I've never been one. I didn't know
> the
> > people I was connecting to at all, and the only reason it didn't bother
> me
> > was because I was simply provide a computer and bandwidth. If I had an
> > agenda, or a real reason to be using freenet, I would never have
> considered
> > giving out information. I was about as anonymous as if I had posted my IP
> > address on Google for everyone to view.
> >
> > It may be called darknet, but someone forgot to turn off the light.
> >
> >
> > >Yea, but you don't know all the nodes in the network, you just know
> > >the ones your connected to. So if one of those links between the
> > >networks goes down, half your downloads stall out and die. And
> > >wouldn't that put a pretty big strain on certain computers? I mean, if
> > >you get this global network of small networks...90% of the data you
> > >request will probably be on another 'network'. The number of
> > >connections between these networks is going to be a lot smaller than
> > >connections within the network. Therefore the computers that connect
> > >between them are gonna have a much greater strain on them than the
> > >ones that are only linked to one 'network'. And if these individual
> > >networks fully connect and integrate...you have an opennet. Except you
> > >have to physically get your node connections from someone else. So you
> > >have an opennet with much fewer connections, which doesn't seem like a
> > >good thing.
> > >
> > >
> > >On 8/26/06, Evan Daniel  wrote:
> > >>On 8/26/06, diddler4u at hotmail.com  wrote:
> > >> > >>Freenet 0.5 is an opennet. You connect to any random node that
> > >>happens
> > >> > >>to be on. Freenet 0.7 doesn't have this yet. In 0.7, there is no
> main
> > >> > >>network. There might be now, but the idea of the way it currently
> is
> > >> > >>setup is to allow small groups to connect without connecting to
> > >> > >>everyone else.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >That is not true.  Freenet 0.7 is designed to form one global
> > >>network, not
> > >> > >multiple independent networks consisting of small groups.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Ian.
> > >> >
> > >> > Ian,
> > >> >
> > >> > How can freenet grow to be a global network unless someone in one
> group
> > >> > trades connection information with someone in another group?
> > >> >
> > >> > Hypothetical - A group of people in England, another in France,
> another
> > >>in
> > >> > Russia, and another in China have grown individual trusted 0.7
> > >>freenets. No
> > >> > one in any of these groups knows someone in the other freenet group,
> > >>and
> > >> > they don't want to just advertise in IRC chat to find someone to
> > >>connect to
> > >> > because they don't know and trust this as a way to add people to
> their
> > >> > freenet. How will these freenet groups become a part of a global
> > >>network?
> > >>
> > >>They won't.  But your assumptions are off -- there's lots of good
> > >>reasons to assume that once a small local network passes a handful of
> > >>connected users it will gain a connection to a different network.  And
> > >>then you have a global 

[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-27 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
Exactly. The theory of a darknet is you connect to people that you
already know and trust. Now, there's a good chance of getting a
worldwide-net because someone in group A may know and trust someone in
group B, but chances are that not all of group A knows all of group B.
For a real-world analogy...I don't have a problem hanging out with my
girlfriend and her friends...she has no problem being with me and my
friends...but my friends and her friends would never meet
independently. Perhaps they would become friends with time...and
perhaps people in group A of the darknet would get to know and trust
people in group B of the darknetbut that would take time. I mean,
I know that personally it's gonna take a few years of knowing someone
before I would trust them well enough to talk about the kinda stuff
some people do on freenet. I mean, yea, that time might be lowered by
someone else you trust saying 'they're cool, don't worry about
it'...but still, by the time you have a global network, freenet 1.0 is
gonna be out.

Plus it makes freenet a much better target for government agencies.
Chances are the people you are connected directly to in freenet you
know very well. Chances are the people you know very well live in the
same country as you, if for no other reason than a shared language. So
chances are, if they bust one freenet node, they can bust all
connected nodes.

And that actually made me think of one other thing. If you have a
darknet in, say, Germany, they will most likely all speak German and
upload German files. So how would they get joined to a darknet that
mostly spoke English and uploads English files? Only people who speak
both languages relatively well will bother to connect to both
networks. But they have to not only speak both languages but also know
and trust someone else who speaks the other language. Which seems to
point back to smaller networks connected in few places.


On 8/27/06, diddler4u at hotmail.com  wrote:
> Evan,
>
> You are right - there is a lot of data to show that social networks do
> expand in the method being said here, but that data is based on known,
> non-anonymous social networks. In an anonymous network the rule of thumb is
> trust no one.
>
> If an openet is not the solution, neither is posting information with an
> embeded IP number the solution. I don't know how the openet is hackable,
> especially if node connections pr paths through nodes change randomly
> (TOR-like), but with a manually established network it only takes capturing
> 1 node and the entire freenet is at risk. I would be more inclined to
> exchange node information with someone if the information were encrypted -
> private/public key. In an anonymous social network I would be more inclined
> to expand that network to others because my node information is encrypted.
>
>
>
> >From: "Evan Daniel" 
> >Reply-To: evand at pobox.com, support at freenetproject.org
> >To: "urza9814 at gmail.com" 
> >CC: support at freenetproject.org
> >Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7
> >Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 10:06:37 -0400
> >
> >Please justify your assumptions.
> >
> >There is a lot of data on social networks that says that is not how
> >they look.  I see no reason to believe the social networks a freenet
> >darknet would be built upon would be different.
> >
> >Evan
> >
> >On 8/26/06, urza9814 at gmail.com  wrote:
> >>Yea, but you don't know all the nodes in the network, you just know
> >>the ones your connected to. So if one of those links between the
> >>networks goes down, half your downloads stall out and die. And
> >>wouldn't that put a pretty big strain on certain computers? I mean, if
> >>you get this global network of small networks...90% of the data you
> >>request will probably be on another 'network'. The number of
> >>connections between these networks is going to be a lot smaller than
> >>connections within the network. Therefore the computers that connect
> >>between them are gonna have a much greater strain on them than the
> >>ones that are only linked to one 'network'. And if these individual
> >>networks fully connect and integrate...you have an opennet. Except you
> >>have to physically get your node connections from someone else. So you
> >>have an opennet with much fewer connections, which doesn't seem like a
> >>good thing.
> >>
> >>
> >>On 8/26/06, Evan Daniel  wrote:
> >> > On 8/26/06, diddler4u at hotmail.com  wrote:
> >> > > >>Freenet 0.5 is an opennet. You connect to any random node that
> >>happens
> >> > > >>to be on. Freenet 0.7 doesn't have this yet. In 0.7, there is no
> >>main
> >> > > >>network. There might be now, but the idea of the way it currently
> >>is
> >> > > >>setup is to allow small groups to connect without connecting to
> >> > > >>everyone else.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >That is not true.  Freenet 0.7 is designed to form one global
> >>network, not
> >> > > >multiple independent networks consisting of small groups.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Ian.
> >> > >
> >> > > Ian,

[freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7

2006-08-30 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
Have you thought about that ignoring reset packets thing that was
shown to make it possible to bypass The Great Firewall? I mean, I
don't know too much about it, or if it'd be possible for
freenetbut it might be worth looking in to.

Also just wanna add that I fully support the desire to help get around
the chinese firewalls and stuffbut you're one of hundreds of
projects working on that same goaland personally, I'm not using
0.7 until there's a working opennet. As much as it may seem like I'm
totally against darknetsit's not so much what you're working on,
it's how. I still feel quite strongly that the main page should send
new users to a download page for 0.5, not 0.7. As for the issue of
getting a working opennet...I'll join the other people in backing
offI suppose I can wait another year or so for a new versionI
just hope 0.5 will last that long without any fresh users.

On 8/30/06, David 'Bombe' Roden  wrote:
> On Wednesday 30 August 2006 22:35, inverse wrote:
>
> > beyond harvesting the connected IP addresses to raid their owner's
> > homes, one big concern with encrypted protocols is that they can be
> > filtered out by application-level scanning firewalls. I think this is
> > exactly what's happening in China.
>
> Yes, the session bytes that are used to initiate connections are
> typical.
>
>
> > Public-key encrypted communications show constant patterns the moment
> > a public key is exchanged between hosts.
>
> Communication between 0.7 nodes doesn't have to exchange public keys,
> those are already known as they are contained in the node reference.
>
>
> David
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[freenet-support] HELP!!!!!

2006-12-19 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
You are far from the first person to have a problem with getting node
refs for Freenet 0.7. I'm gonna say what I tell everyone else: Don't
use 0.7. It's pretty much experimental. There's a good reason a large
number of us are holding on to 0.5, a big one for me being that it's a
true opennet instead of a riskier, pseudo-opennet. In other words, you
don't have to mess with any of this getting node refs and IRC crap.

http://freenetproject.org/download-old.html


On 12/19/06, Volodya  wrote:
> damian alexander wrote:
> > well i went into mIRC into freenode into freenet-refs see 1
> > single person in the room . anyone you know who runs windows ? so i can get
> > the right commands to connect & run freenet corectly ?
>
> If you haven't seen anybody on #freenet-refs then you've done something 
> wrong, most
> probably you haven't connected to the correct network.
>
> Try this:
> /server irc.freenode.net
> (wait until connected)
> /join #freenet-refs
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[freenet-support] HELP!!!!!

2006-12-19 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
All the download links on that page are 0.5. If you're on windows hit
the 'freenet-java-webinstall.exe' link, if on linux/unix use the
'freenet-stable-latest.tgz'

On 12/19/06, damian alexander  wrote:
> hmm , went to that link didnt see a download for 0.5,???
>
>
> >From: urza9814 at gmail.com
> >Reply-To: support at freenetproject.org
> >To: support at freenetproject.org
> >Subject: Re: [freenet-support] HELP!
> >Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 17:53:23 -0500
> >
> >You are far from the first person to have a problem with getting node
> >refs for Freenet 0.7. I'm gonna say what I tell everyone else: Don't
> >use 0.7. It's pretty much experimental. There's a good reason a large
> >number of us are holding on to 0.5, a big one for me being that it's a
> >true opennet instead of a riskier, pseudo-opennet. In other words, you
> >don't have to mess with any of this getting node refs and IRC crap.
> >
> >http://freenetproject.org/download-old.html
> >
> >
> >On 12/19/06, Volodya  wrote:
> > > damian alexander wrote:
> > > > well i went into mIRC into freenode into freenet-refs
> >see 1
> > > > single person in the room . anyone you know who runs windows ? so i
> >can get
> > > > the right commands to connect & run freenet corectly ?
> > >
> > > If you haven't seen anybody on #freenet-refs then you've done something
> >wrong, most
> > > probably you haven't connected to the correct network.
> > >
> > > Try this:
> > > /server irc.freenode.net
> > > (wait until connected)
> > > /join #freenet-refs
> > >
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[freenet-support] HELP...Uninstallation

2006-12-23 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
Well, on Linux I know all you have to do is delete the files, it
doesn't run automatically though. On windoze, there's an uninstall
file. So look for an uninstall file, and if you don't have one, just
delete it.

On 12/6/06, Gabriel Lipson  wrote:
> I desperately need to remove freenet from running on my mac.  Ever
> since I installed it I've had problems and it's so transparent
> (whatever unix stuff is going on in the background) that I don't know
> what to do.
>
> Please help.
>
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[freenet-support] Multiple nodes on one IP

2006-07-08 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
Ok, I think my ISP changed my IP address recently or something,
because my freenet speed suddenly went to hell...and it's not much of
a problem, because my IP only changes once every few months, so I
don't really need to get a redirect or anything. I'm just wondering
though, if I set up another node on a separate computer on my node
(and therefore in the same IP address), would it help my node get
re-integrated into the network faster? And would it have other
benifits, like better load times even after my node is integrated
well?

Oh, and would I have to run a spider on the other node for it to help
any? And if so, are there any spiders that run invisbly? It's my mom's
computer, and though she doesn't care when I use it (formerly the only
computer we had, still used by everyone, she just uses it for her
email), I don't want her messing with it and closing it or anything.

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[freenet-support] Linux Spiders

2006-07-14 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
Well, after failing to install Freenet on Slackware, I realized,
Mandrake was the best (in terms of 'just working') Linux distro I'd
ever used up until 10.1 and 2005LE, so I decided to give it another
shot. So far so good. Freenet's running nicely too, once I found the
missing step in the Java installation instructions...

Anyways, I'm looking for a spider. I googled it, but found nothing.
I'd prefer an HTTP link, since freenet is still slow, but if you can
only find a freenet link that's cool too...I got freenet running on
this box under windoze already. Not running very well, but running.
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[freenet-support] libc.so.6

2006-06-20 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
I'm trying to install freenet on slackware, and I must say it's been
quite annoying so far...I had everything in a freenet folder in my
home directory, but had to copy half the files right into my home
directory anyways because it couldn't find them otherwise...but
anyways, here's my current problem:

root at arochone:~# '/root/freenet/start-freenet.sh'
Detected freenet-ext.jar
Detected freenet.jar
Sun java detected.
head: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
sed: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
Sun Java 1.4.2 detected.
uname: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
Starting Freenet now: Command line: java -Xmx128m freenet.node.Main
Done
root at arochone:~# nice: error while loading shared libraries:
libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory


Problem is, I have libc.so.6. It's under /lib/
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[freenet-support] Connection timeouts

2006-03-02 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
I keep getting connection timeouts, and I think it might be due to the
nature of my internet connection, but I'm not sure how to go about
fixing that. Basically, what I have is a router connected to two
computers, and then this computer is connected through one of those
two by a cable connection. The problem is that I've gotta somehow
route my freenet connections not only through the router, but also
through the other computer, because this computer's IP address is
192.168.0.x and the router only allows 192.168.2.x for port
forwarding, DMZ, etc.
Anyone know how I can do this?
Both comps are currently on WinXP, though I switch this one into Linux
sometimes, which is the reason for the other comp - my wifi card
doesn't work in Linux.
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[freenet-support] Freenet on proxy?

2006-03-30 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
Is there any way to get Freenet to run through a proxy? Specifically,
I need it to run through privoxy on my other comp...because this comp
connects through a wired connection to another comp which connects to
my router wirelessly, and I can't use bridge connection (need the
connection sharing) and so I can't set this comp directly in the DMZ,
which I think is what's causing freenet to not load at all. So, if I
set up privoxy on the other comp, how do I route freenet through it? I
tried setting up freenet itself on the other comp, but it wouldn't
loadmaybe because that comp is, like, 7 years old.

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[freenet-support] Re: Welcome to the "Support" mailing list

2006-10-28 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
You need to connect to irc.freenode.net with an IRC client, not your
web browser.
Try mirc, which is available here:
http://www.mirc.com/get.html

You could also (and I highly recommend this approach) try downloading
Freenet 0.5 instead, which does not require you to manually gather
node references. However, freenet 0.7 and 0.5 are two completely
separate networks. There is no connection between them. However, there
are still a lot of people on 0.5, as 0.7 is incomplete and, we feel,
has quite a few flaws. Of course, most of the people on here will
disagree with me on that...but the point is, both 0.5 and 0.7 have a
large amount of users that trust them, I personally am a user of 0.5,
and I think 0.5 is a LOT easier to get started with.
Anyways, here's where you can get 0.5:
http://freenetproject.org/download-old.html

On 10/28/06, Sarah  wrote:
>
>
>
> On 28/10/06, Sarah  wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > I am trying to work with the freenet project after hearing about it last
> night on newnight! Am not very computer orientated though and am finding it
> a bit difficult. I have down loaded the software, but when i try and access
> http://irc.freenode.net/ to get connected (If you don't know anyone running
> Freenet, visit #freenet-refs on irc.freenode.net and ask nicely to exchange
> references with someone.) it wants Nagios Access code and password, what is
> this?
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > On 28/10/06, support-request at freenetproject.org <
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[freenet-support] Freenet (0.5, Build 5106) has trouble with time transitions

2006-10-29 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
Mine didn't.
I'm running 0.5 on Linux.
When I ran 0.5 on WinXP, it hit 100% CPU usage half an hour after I
started it anyways

Mebbe it's a problem in 0.7?

On 10/29/06, Mr. Flibble  wrote:
> > It happened before, and it happened again tonight. I got woken up by
> > alarms indicating 100 % CPU usage, and found out it was being caused
> > by Freenet, so I restarted it.
> > Obviously it has problems when summer/winter time transitions occur.
> > It's only twice a year, but thought I should mention it.
>
> Ah! That would explain why mine crashed too last night!
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[freenet-support] libc.so.6

2007-01-03 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
So I had this exact same problem before, and I fixed it by using a
different linux distro (switch from slackware back to Mandriva 2006).
But now I'm on the distro that worked a year later (Mandriva 2007) and
it's no longer working. But I'm a bit smarter now, so I'm hoping I can
get it figured out. Anyways, I have freenet 0.5, jre 5.0, and I'm
getting the following error:

[root at localhost fnet2]# sh start-freenet.sh
Detected freenet-ext.jar
Detected freenet.jar
Sun java detected.
head: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
sed: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
Sun Java 1.4.2 detected.
uname: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
Starting Freenet now: Command line: java -Xmx128m freenet.node.Main
nice: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
Done

I know, you shouldn't run freenet as root. That's step 2. lol
Anyways, the problem with the above error is that I have libc.so.6.
It's currently located in /lib, and is pointing to libc-2.4.so  Should
I maybe link to it from somewhere else? Is it a problem with libc-2.4?
(I had 2.3.5 before). Any ideas?

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[freenet-support] libc.so.6

2007-01-04 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
Hmm. I commented them out, and now it APPEARS to run fine, but it doesn't.

On 1/4/07, bo-le at web.de  wrote:
> try to remove/comment out the LD_ASSUME_KERNEL thingy in the start scripts.
> I use a 2.6.18.2-kernel, both freenet versions (5 and 7) runs proper without
> this und both give me lib errors if LD_ASSUME_KERNEL is set...
>
> Am Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2007 02:52 schrieb urza9814 at gmail.com:
> > So I had this exact same problem before, and I fixed it by using a
> > different linux distro (switch from slackware back to Mandriva 2006).
> > But now I'm on the distro that worked a year later (Mandriva 2007) and
> > it's no longer working. But I'm a bit smarter now, so I'm hoping I can
> > get it figured out. Anyways, I have freenet 0.5, jre 5.0, and I'm
> > getting the following error:
> >
> > [root at localhost fnet2]# sh start-freenet.sh
> > Detected freenet-ext.jar
> > Detected freenet.jar
> > Sun java detected.
> > head: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
> > shared object file: No such file or directory
> > sed: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
> > shared object file: No such file or directory
> > grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
> > shared object file: No such file or directory
> > grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
> > shared object file: No such file or directory
> > grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
> > shared object file: No such file or directory
> > Sun Java 1.4.2 detected.
> > uname: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
> > shared object file: No such file or directory
> > Starting Freenet now: Command line: java -Xmx128m freenet.node.Main
> > nice: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
> > shared object file: No such file or directory
> > Done
> >
> > I know, you shouldn't run freenet as root. That's step 2. lol
> > Anyways, the problem with the above error is that I have libc.so.6.
> > It's currently located in /lib, and is pointing to libc-2.4.so  Should
> > I maybe link to it from somewhere else? Is it a problem with libc-2.4?
> > (I had 2.3.5 before). Any ideas?
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[freenet-support] unable to access http://127.0.0.1:8888/ as instructed in welcome page (OS X 10.2.8)

2007-06-14 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
Ensure that freenet is actually running. Personally I run Linux and Freenet
0.5, but I'm thinking it'll probably be about the same. Just look for and
run 'start-freenet.sh'. It might take a while for that to start up, so give
it a few minutes before trying to get to 127.0.0.1:.

On 6/4/07, Ben Dougall  wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I can't get Freenet working on OS X 10.2.8.
>
> I've installed Freenet (0.7) which appears to have gone successfully:
> in Applications there's a folder called Freenet with a number of files
> inside, including welcome.html which says I've successfully installed
> it. The next instruction is to access http://127.0.0.1:/  -- this I
> can't do. In both Safari and Firefox. I've tried a number of different
> things but that page can't be accessed at all.
>
> Any ideas why it's not possible for me to follow the configure
> instructions on the welcome page?
>
> Thanks.
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[freenet-support] Darknet Question .... and some other fundamental Qs

2008-08-03 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
Well, the entire point of Freenet is that nobody can know where the data
originated. So if you're asking if there's a way to only get data inserted
by nodes you're friends with - no. That would defeat the purpose of Freenet.
If you're asking if you can only get data that is stored on your friends'
nodes, then yes, setting it to only one hop should work I believe (But then
again, I'm not _too_ familiar with how Freenet works. Especially 0.7.) But
if you're trying to limit access to a small number of peers, can't you just
set it as darknet and only add those peers?

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Benjamin Hecht wrote:

> > direct friends have in their store. Are yu trying to create an old
> > fashion darknet where only a few people have access to it ?
> >
>
> Yes, a darknet of peers located on the same LAN (for bandwidth
> reasons). Can Freenet be configured to allow only pushing/pulling from
> friends (and not from friends of friends). I understand that the
> current Freenet paradigm is setup in such a way that a node cannot
> tell if a friend was the origin of the data or if he is just caching
> it so I am curious if such a setup is possible.
>
> On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 4:51 AM, Julien Cornuwel
>  wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Benjamin Hecht a ?crit :
> >> When using Darknet, are requests forwarded by friends that are not
> >> friends of your node?
> >>
> >> For example, if you are friends (via Darknet) with (person A) and
> >> (person B). And (person B) is friends with (person C) via Darknet,
> >> will a request from (person A) to (B) be forwarded to (C) if that
> >> piece is unavailable at (B).
> >
> > Yes it is. This is the only way to have a global darknet.
> >
> >> If it is, is it possible to disable this feature -- I guess in other
> >> words, would changing maximum hops to 1 (if possible) prevent
> >> searching "Friends of Friends" searching/downloading/pushing, etc.?
> >
> > Why would you want to do that ? You would only be able to see what your
> > direct friends have in their store. Are yu trying to create an old
> > fashion darknet where only a few people have access to it ?
> >
> >
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[freenet-support] UNINSTALLER

2006-09-07 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
You do realize that on Limewire ANYONE can see what you search, what
you download, and who you are, right? Limewire makes you create a
username and gives out your IP address. I have found people's exact
street address with just a username and IP. It's not that hard.
Freenet, on the other hand, protects everything.
Oh, and limewire has no way of publishing websites, no distributed
data store, and no message boards.

On 7/14/06, Michael A. Kuijn  wrote:
> On Thursday 07 September 2006 08:36, tommie delap wrote:
> >i dont know but limewire works really well!!! tell your friends to stay
> > away from freenet , it sucks bad!!!
> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>
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[freenet-support] unrecognized command: Java -XX:MaxDirectMemorySize

2007-04-26 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
I'm trying to get Freenet 0.5 working, but I'm encountering the following error:

[root at localhost freenet]# sh start-freenet.sh
Detected freenet-ext.jar
Detected freenet.jar
Sun java detected.
Sun Java 1.4.2 detected.
Starting Freenet now: Command line: java -Xmx128m
-XX:MaxDirectMemorySize=128m freenet.node.Main
Done
[root at localhost freenet]# Unrecognised command line option:
-XX:MaxDirectMemorySize=128m
Usage: java [-options] class [arg1 arg2 ...]
 (to run a class file)
   or  java [-options] -jar jarfile [arg1 arg2 ...]
 (to run a standalone jar file)

where options include:
  -helpprint out this message
  -version print out version number and copyright information
  -showversion show version number and copyright and continue
  -cp -classpath   
   locations where to find application classes
  -verbose[:class|gc|jni]
   :class print out information about class loading, etc.
   :gc print out results of garbage collection
   :jni print out native method dynamic resolution
  -D= set a system property
  -X   show help on non-standard options



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[freenet-support] unrecognized command: Java -XX:MaxDirectMemorySize

2007-04-26 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
That's not working. One other thing I had to change in the script was
add an 'LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.6.17'...I just threw that in after all the
if loops that set that...but whenever I try running it now it just
gives me this:

[root at localhost freenet]# sh start-freenet.sh
Detected freenet-ext.jar
Detected freenet.jar
Sun java detected.
Sun Java 1.4.2 detected.
Starting Freenet now: Command line: java -Xmx128m freenet.node.Main
Done


it never moves on to the second part.

On 4/26/07, Juiceman  wrote:
>
>
> On 4/26/07, urza9814 at gmail.com  wrote:
> > I'm trying to get Freenet 0.5 working, but I'm encountering the following
> error:
> >
> > [root at localhost freenet]# sh start-freenet.sh
> > Detected freenet-ext.jar
> > Detected freenet.jar
> > Sun java detected.
> > Sun Java 1.4.2 detected.
> > Starting Freenet now: Command line: java -Xmx128m
> > -XX:MaxDirectMemorySize=128m freenet.node.Main
> > Done
> > [root at localhost freenet]# Unrecognised command line option:
> > -XX:MaxDirectMemorySize=128m
> > Usage: java [-options] class [arg1 arg2 ...]
> >  (to run a class file)
> >or  java [-options] -jar jarfile [arg1 arg2 ...]
> >  (to run a standalone jar file)
> >
> > where options include:
> >   -helpprint out this message
> >   -version print out version number and copyright information
> >   -showversion show version number and copyright and continue
> >   -cp -classpath   
> >locations where to find application classes
> >   -verbose[:class|gc|jni]
> >:class print out information about class loading, etc.
> >:gc print out results of garbage collection
> >:jni print out native method dynamic resolution
> >   -D= set a system property
> >   -X   show help on non-standard options
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Quick and dirty fix:  edit start-freenet.sh and remove the
> -XX:MaxDirectMemorySize=128m from the command line.
>
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[freenet-support] unrecognized command: Java -XX:MaxDirectMemorySize

2007-04-29 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
Just wanna post this so there's an answer in the archives:

Turns out I didn't have real java. I had 'JamVM'. Which, despite
running the real java install several times, is still running instead
of java. And it won't let me uninstall it. But I have freenet working
now by putting in the full path to the real java binary. Getting rid
of this JamVM thing can wait I suppose.

On 4/26/07, urza9814 at gmail.com  wrote:
> That's not working. One other thing I had to change in the script was
> add an 'LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.6.17'...I just threw that in after all the
> if loops that set that...but whenever I try running it now it just
> gives me this:
>
> [root at localhost freenet]# sh start-freenet.sh
> Detected freenet-ext.jar
> Detected freenet.jar
> Sun java detected.
> Sun Java 1.4.2 detected.
> Starting Freenet now: Command line: java -Xmx128m freenet.node.Main
> Done
>
>
> it never moves on to the second part.
>
> On 4/26/07, Juiceman  wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 4/26/07, urza9814 at gmail.com  wrote:
> > > I'm trying to get Freenet 0.5 working, but I'm encountering the following
> > error:
> > >
> > > [root at localhost freenet]# sh start-freenet.sh
> > > Detected freenet-ext.jar
> > > Detected freenet.jar
> > > Sun java detected.
> > > Sun Java 1.4.2 detected.
> > > Starting Freenet now: Command line: java -Xmx128m
> > > -XX:MaxDirectMemorySize=128m freenet.node.Main
> > > Done
> > > [root at localhost freenet]# Unrecognised command line option:
> > > -XX:MaxDirectMemorySize=128m
> > > Usage: java [-options] class [arg1 arg2 ...]
> > >  (to run a class file)
> > >or  java [-options] -jar jarfile [arg1 arg2 ...]
> > >  (to run a standalone jar file)
> > >
> > > where options include:
> > >   -helpprint out this message
> > >   -version print out version number and copyright information
> > >   -showversion show version number and copyright and continue
> > >   -cp -classpath   
> > >locations where to find application classes
> > >   -verbose[:class|gc|jni]
> > >:class print out information about class loading, etc.
> > >:gc print out results of garbage collection
> > >:jni print out native method dynamic resolution
> > >   -D= set a system property
> > >   -X   show help on non-standard options
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Quick and dirty fix:  edit start-freenet.sh and remove the
> > -XX:MaxDirectMemorySize=128m from the command line.
> >
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[freenet-support] Newbie

2007-04-30 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
You would search for files by either finding them on websites (check
http://localhost: if you haven't already) or using the search
feature of frost.

On 4/30/07, Brent Pugh  wrote:
> Hi I was wondering how to set this up and actually what it was.  I was
> thinking of using fuqid .how do i search for files??
> can anyone please hlep
>
>  
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>  Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.
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[freenet-support] Newbie Reply

2007-05-01 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
well, unless something's changed in the newer versions (I still use
0.5 for various reasons), that means freenet isn't running. I'm
assuming you are running windows, so make sure the little freenet icon
appears in the system tray, and if so, right click and there should be
an option to view the error log.

But then again, my knowledge is based off running 0.5 on XP, before
0.7 even came out, so things might be a bit different. Maybe someone
else here can help you some if that's the case.

On 4/30/07, Brent Pugh  wrote:
> when i copy and paste the site it says cannot find server what am i
> doing wrong?
>
>
>
>
> You would search for files by either finding them on websites (check
> http://localhost: if you haven't already) or using the search
> feature of frost.
>
> On 4/30/07, Brent Pugh  wrote:
> > Hi I was wondering how to set this up and actually what it was.  I
> was
> > thinking of using fuqid .how do i search for files??
> > can anyone please hlep
> >
>
>
>  
> Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell?
>  Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos.
>
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[freenet-support] does freenet slow down the computer

2007-11-02 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
There should be bandwidth limits somewhere in the config file. I'm
using 0.5myself, I'm guessing you're on
0.7, but look around in freenet.conf or whatever configuration files you can
find for some kind of input and output bandwidth limits. I suggest running a
speed test on your connection (just google 'internet speed test', there's
tons of them out there), and rounding the speeds down to the nearest 100kbps
or so and setting that as your limits. I've actually found that lowering the
OUTGOING bandwidth limit a bit helps my browsing speed a lot more than
limiting the incoming bandwidth.

On Oct 31, 2007 4:51 PM, its me  wrote:

> *After I installed freenet, when the computer is idle, it is sending out
> 56338 packets and receiving 139442 packets even when no program is running.
> *
> **
> *Is this activity all from freenet and if so, is that why my computer is
> very slow when I am trying to browse regular pages on the internet ? *
> **
> *thanks for any help you can provide*
> **
> *Brian*
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