Re: [freenet-support] How to force freenet to use a non-default java

2010-09-07 Thread urza9814
If you're running the jar directly, you could just hardcode the path to Java
in front of it. i.e. instead of typing 'java -jar freenet.jar' you could
type something like '~/bin/java -jar freenet.jar'...and you could put that
into a shell script or some kind of shortcut to make it easier. If you're
launching with the shell script (is there a launcher shell script anymore?),
you could just change where it calls java and hardcode your own location as
above. If you're already launching Freenet from a shortcut of some type, try
right-clicking or looking around for some way to edit the command that it's
running and make the changes I've suggested above.

I realize this is all bit vague - I haven't used 0.7 (well, tried it a few
times, always returned to 0.5), and I also don't know what kind of system
you're running, but hopefully that will give you a general idea. If you have
any specific issues or questions about what I've said, I may be able to help
you out further.

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Eric Chadbourne
eric.chadbou...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 09/07/2010 08:33 PM, Uriel Carrasquilla wrote:
  I don't have root access to my machine.
  I installed Sun Java 1.6 in my own user directory.
  I created a java a soft link in $HOME/bin.
  But I cannot put $HOME/bin ahead of the other libraries in $PATH.
  How can I force freenet to use the java version in $HOME/bin?
 
  Or if this is not the right approach, what would suggest?

 at terminal can you export JAVA_HOME and then type env and see what it
 says?

 alternatively can you specify which java version to use when starting
 freenet?  off the top of my head i can't remember how to do this at
 terminal.  i have two versions of java installed and gnome let's me
 select which version to use when i right click on the jar.

 hope that helps,
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Re: [freenet-support] Why does my system go so slow when I run freenet on its own computer paral

2010-07-25 Thread urza9814
Not sure why adding the router would change it(I'm not sure exactly what  
you setup is/was,) but I would add an input bandwidth limit. Note that the  
freenet limit uses bytes, while your speed is measured in bits. So your  
speed, 450kbps, is 56KB/s. I'd set the input limit to 20. Even if all  
you're doing is downloading a file, it still needs some upstream bandwidth,  
so if Freenet is sucking it all up, it'll make everything you do online  
seem slow.


On Jul 25, 2010 4:49pm, user1 bq...@telia.com wrote:

 Before I got the new Gateway Router everything seemed to work okay.





I just checked the speed of my desktop machine when the freenet machine



is running at the same time.





Speed of desktop machine:



Download speed= 1904 Kbps



Upload speed = 167 Kbps





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Re: [freenet-support] philosophical question

2009-12-17 Thread urza9814
It could be done, and pretty easily too I believe. However, the problem is
that it would need to be done through some kind of 'bridge' website, and
whoever ran the server for such a site would have some serious legal
problems. I mean, if people just hosting .torrent files can be successfully
prosecuted, it seems extremely unlikely that a Freenet bridge wouldn't land
the owner in prison for many, many years. But yes, all you really should
need to do is lightly modify the config file or set up a proxy on your local
machine and you can start serving all of Freenet to the outside world. But
you would have whatever your national LEA is knocking on your door as soon
as they discovered it. Sure, there are some nations (the US included) where
you _shouldn't_ be able to be charged with anything for such an act, but
that doesn't mean they wouldn't try (and succeed...).

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Ichi i...@xerobank.net wrote:

 Hello Support,

  Long  ago,  reading  Ian's paper, I imagined Freenet as a data haven
  that would be accessible via the internet, not just to other Freenet
  nodes.That's  obviously  not how it's worked out.  Although I do
  find  some  flogs  replicated  on  anonymous  websites, I can't tell
  whether  that's  been  done  manually or automated.  I do appreciate
  that  porting  Freenet  to the internet could be risky.  Is that the
  only issue?  Does Freenet have a policy against such porting?

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Re: [freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 50, Issue 9

2009-11-10 Thread urza9814
Freenet is exactly what was being discussed. He wasn't looking for
support for illegal activities, he was looking for support for
Freenet, which he happened to be using in a way that in certain
countries is illegal. So should we refuse support to anyone asking for
help with freenet if their use of it happens to be illegal in, say,
China?

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Evan Daniel eva...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:58 AM, freenet free...@pacbell.net wrote:

 On Nov 9, 2009, at 17:16:24 +0100, bimbek bimbek...@gmail.com wrote:


 Oh, with all the respect Matthew Toseland, you did not need to ban
 the poor
 guy.

 I hope that one day you will not ban all of us just because some US
 court
 would say that using freenet is illegal...

 Did anyone catch the irony that the Freenet Project - that is
 dedicated to overcoming censorship and promoting absolute free speech
 for all worldwide - has just banned, censored if you will, someone
 from a simple support e-mail list?

 But from the Freenet web site at http://freenetproject.org/philosophy.html
 :

 You cannot guarantee freedom of speech and enforce copyright law. It
 is for this reason that Freenet, a system designed to protect Freedom
 of Speech, must prevent enforcement of copyright.

 Freenet must operate under the laws of both the US and the UK.  What's
 surprising, exactly?

 If you want support for illegal activities, don't look for it on
 moderated, non-anonymous forums like this email list!  How surprising
 is that?  Seriously, if you want to discuss illegal activities,
 shouldn't you be using something like, I don't know, Freenet?

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Re: [freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated

2009-11-09 Thread urza9814
...why would this mailing list have to shut down if Freenet was deemed
illegal? Just because you can't run the software doesn't mean you
can't talk about it. We (supposedly) have freedom of speech here in
the US - I mean, murder is illegal, but you can still _talk_ about
murder. Hell you can even run a mailing list dedicated to plotting the
perfect murder if you wanted. Of course the list would likely be
watched heavily by the government, and if someone was murdered in such
a fashion everyone on the list would likely be instant suspects, but
the list would still be legal.

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:48 AM, VolodyA! V Anarhist
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 bimbek пишет:
 Oh, with all the respect Matthew Toseland, you did not need to ban the
 poor guy.

 I hope that one day you will not ban all of us just because some US
 court would say that using freenet is illegal...

 Actually somebody will (whether or not it will be Matthew Toseland or not i
 don't know). Since i'm sure that if Freenet will become illegal, this e-mail
 list will have to shut down, thus de-facto banning everybody from it.

                    - Volodya




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Re: [freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated

2009-11-09 Thread urza9814
Meh, it's no different from what television and movie producers do on
a daily basis...

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:27 PM, VolodyA! V Anarhist
volo...@whengendarmesleeps.org wrote:
 urza9...@gmail.com пишет:
 ...why would this mailing list have to shut down if Freenet was deemed
 illegal? Just because you can't run the software doesn't mean you
 can't talk about it. We (supposedly) have freedom of speech here in
 the US - I mean, murder is illegal, but you can still _talk_ about
 murder. Hell you can even run a mailing list dedicated to plotting the
 perfect murder if you wanted. Of course the list would likely be
 watched heavily by the government, and if someone was murdered in such
 a fashion everyone on the list would likely be instant suspects, but
 the list would still be legal.

 I'm sure if you create supp...@murder-list.org and provide specific 
 information
 about how to murder somebody you would get into legal trouble even in the most
 pro-free-speech countries. Of course it would depend on what it means for
 Freenet to be 'illegal'.

              - Volodya

 On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:48 AM, VolodyA! V Anarhist
 volo...@whengendarmesleeps.org wrote:
 bimbek пишет:
 Oh, with all the respect Matthew Toseland, you did not need to ban the
 poor guy.

 I hope that one day you will not ban all of us just because some US
 court would say that using freenet is illegal...
 Actually somebody will (whether or not it will be Matthew Toseland or not i
 don't know). Since i'm sure that if Freenet will become illegal, this e-mail
 list will have to shut down, thus de-facto banning everybody from it.

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Re: [freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated

2009-11-07 Thread urza9814
Wow, that's a bit...extreme. I mean there's a _huge_ difference
between refusing to give someone support, which may or may not be
legal, and completely banning them. I mean just because _you_ can't
help him doesn't mean nobody else on this list can. Way to alienate a
rather significant percentage of the user base.


On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Matthew Toseland
t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote:
 On Sunday 18 October 2009 11:24:08 Toni Bergman wrote:
 ...

 I present you with my graph. I'm downloading music from freenet.

 Thanks for your detailed bug report. However, based on your graph, which 
 contains clear evidence of copyright infringement (there *is* legal music on 
 Freenet, but the Thaw instance shown includes stuff that is almost certainly 
 not legal), you have just earned a permanent ban from the support list. 
 Because of this I will not be able to act on any of the issues you mentioned, 
 as this would be equivalent to providing tech support to known pirates. 
 Please go away and don't come back.

 Sorry folks, but PIRACY WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.

 This policy is the result of MGM vs Grokster, where the Supreme Court of the 
 United States of America found the defendant guilty because amongst other 
 reasons, it provided technical support to people it knew to be engaged in 
 copyright infringement. The EFF's peer to peer advice is not to provide tech 
 support at all, but IMHO this is more or less impossible for an open source 
 project. See here:
 http://www.eff.org/wp/iaal-what-peer-peer-developers-need-know-about-copyright-law

 Freenet Project Inc is incorporated in the USA under Californian law. I have 
 a responsibility not to get them into legal trouble, although I am based in 
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Re: [freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated

2009-11-07 Thread urza9814
Hah, I don't really need a welcome, I've been here my whole life :)

And he wasn't using the email list to discuss illegal activities, he
was using the email list to get support for Freenet - exactly what it
is here for.

On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Mike Cook mikec...@pipeline.com wrote:
 Welcome to the USA. You need to be very careful these days in regard to
 any discussion of file sharing. There are many legal pitfalls and many
 with deep pockets just looking for an opportunity to sue. Like it or not
 email lists are not a place to discuss illegal activities whether you
 agree with the law or not.

 urza9...@gmail.com wrote:
 Wow, that's a bit...extreme. I mean there's a _huge_ difference
 between refusing to give someone support, which may or may not be
 legal, and completely banning them. I mean just because _you_ can't
 help him doesn't mean nobody else on this list can. Way to alienate a
 rather significant percentage of the user base.


 On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 6:56 AM, Matthew Toseland
 t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote:

 On Sunday 18 October 2009 11:24:08 Toni Bergman wrote:
 ...

 I present you with my graph. I'm downloading music from freenet.

 Thanks for your detailed bug report. However, based on your graph, which 
 contains clear evidence of copyright infringement (there *is* legal music 
 on Freenet, but the Thaw instance shown includes stuff that is almost 
 certainly not legal), you have just earned a permanent ban from the support 
 list. Because of this I will not be able to act on any of the issues you 
 mentioned, as this would be equivalent to providing tech support to known 
 pirates. Please go away and don't come back.

 Sorry folks, but PIRACY WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.

 This policy is the result of MGM vs Grokster, where the Supreme Court of 
 the United States of America found the defendant guilty because amongst 
 other reasons, it provided technical support to people it knew to be 
 engaged in copyright infringement. The EFF's peer to peer advice is not to 
 provide tech support at all, but IMHO this is more or less impossible for 
 an open source project. See here:
 http://www.eff.org/wp/iaal-what-peer-peer-developers-need-know-about-copyright-law

 Freenet Project Inc is incorporated in the USA under Californian law. I 
 have a responsibility not to get them into legal trouble, although I am 
 based in England.

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Re: [freenet-support] problems with internet

2009-10-11 Thread urza9814
I've had that problem before actually, though it was on Freenet 0.5.
Is there still a way to set bandwidth limits? That's what I had to do.
Freenet saturated the network so heavily that while it was running
_nothing_ else would work.

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Juiceman juicema...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 10:11 AM,  lostser...@safe-mail.net wrote:
 hi.
 Internet through a router.
 after installing freenet, lost internet in opera, mozila, ie8
 emule and utorrent working properly.
 how to fix?

 It is possible that Freenet traffic is overloading your poor router,
 though if you can torrent this seems unlikely.  Please try rebooting
 your DSL/Cable modem and router.  If that doesn't work, shut down
 Freenet and see if that is the problem; if it is, I'm sorry to say
 uninstall Freenet or replace your router.

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Re: [freenet-support] elettra, a supplementary way to encrypt files on your harddisk

2009-10-08 Thread urza9814
It could be quite useful to encrypt downloads though, and/or Freenet
itself...

On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Artefact2 artefa...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:26 PM, bqz69 bq...@telia.com wrote:

 Elettra might be supplementary to freenet users, a supplementary way to
 encrypt important data on your harddisk?


 Pointless imho. Freenet *already* encrypt pretty much everything even
 remotely critical by default (and even more in higher physical security
 levels) and it already uses plausible deniability.


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Re: [freenet-support] Darknet Question .... and some other fundamental Qs

2008-08-03 Thread urza9814
Well, the entire point of Freenet is that nobody can know where the data
originated. So if you're asking if there's a way to only get data inserted
by nodes you're friends with - no. That would defeat the purpose of Freenet.
If you're asking if you can only get data that is stored on your friends'
nodes, then yes, setting it to only one hop should work I believe (But then
again, I'm not _too_ familiar with how Freenet works. Especially 0.7.) But
if you're trying to limit access to a small number of peers, can't you just
set it as darknet and only add those peers?

On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 9:17 PM, Benjamin Hecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

  direct friends have in their store. Are yu trying to create an old
  fashion darknet where only a few people have access to it ?
 

 Yes, a darknet of peers located on the same LAN (for bandwidth
 reasons). Can Freenet be configured to allow only pushing/pulling from
 friends (and not from friends of friends). I understand that the
 current Freenet paradigm is setup in such a way that a node cannot
 tell if a friend was the origin of the data or if he is just caching
 it so I am curious if such a setup is possible.

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  friends of your node?
 
  For example, if you are friends (via Darknet) with (person A) and
  (person B). And (person B) is friends with (person C) via Darknet,
  will a request from (person A) to (B) be forwarded to (C) if that
  piece is unavailable at (B).
 
  Yes it is. This is the only way to have a global darknet.
 
  If it is, is it possible to disable this feature -- I guess in other
  words, would changing maximum hops to 1 (if possible) prevent
  searching Friends of Friends searching/downloading/pushing, etc.?
 
  Why would you want to do that ? You would only be able to see what your
  direct friends have in their store. Are yu trying to create an old
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Re: [freenet-support] does freenet slow down the computer

2007-11-02 Thread urza9814
There should be bandwidth limits somewhere in the config file. I'm
using 0.5myself, I'm guessing you're on
0.7, but look around in freenet.conf or whatever configuration files you can
find for some kind of input and output bandwidth limits. I suggest running a
speed test on your connection (just google 'internet speed test', there's
tons of them out there), and rounding the speeds down to the nearest 100kbps
or so and setting that as your limits. I've actually found that lowering the
OUTGOING bandwidth limit a bit helps my browsing speed a lot more than
limiting the incoming bandwidth.

On Oct 31, 2007 4:51 PM, its me [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 *After I installed freenet, when the computer is idle, it is sending out
 56338 packets and receiving 139442 packets even when no program is running.
 *
 **
 *Is this activity all from freenet and if so, is that why my computer is
 very slow when I am trying to browse regular pages on the internet ? *
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 *thanks for any help you can provide*
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Re: [freenet-support] Newbie Reply

2007-05-01 Thread urza9814
well, unless something's changed in the newer versions (I still use
0.5 for various reasons), that means freenet isn't running. I'm
assuming you are running windows, so make sure the little freenet icon
appears in the system tray, and if so, right click and there should be
an option to view the error log.

But then again, my knowledge is based off running 0.5 on XP, before
0.7 even came out, so things might be a bit different. Maybe someone
else here can help you some if that's the case.

On 4/30/07, Brent Pugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 when i copy and paste the site it says cannot find server what am i
 doing wrong?




 You would search for files by either finding them on websites (check
 http://localhost: if you haven't already) or using the search
 feature of frost.

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  Hi I was wondering how to set this up and actually what it was.  I
 was
  thinking of using fuqid .how do i search for files??
  can anyone please hlep
 


  
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Re: [freenet-support] Newbie

2007-04-30 Thread urza9814
You would search for files by either finding them on websites (check
http://localhost: if you haven't already) or using the search
feature of frost.

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Re: [freenet-support] unrecognized command: Java -XX:MaxDirectMemorySize

2007-04-26 Thread urza9814
That's not working. One other thing I had to change in the script was
add an 'LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.6.17'...I just threw that in after all the
if loops that set that...but whenever I try running it now it just
gives me this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] freenet]# sh start-freenet.sh
Detected freenet-ext.jar
Detected freenet.jar
Sun java detected.
Sun Java 1.4.2 detected.
Starting Freenet now: Command line: java -Xmx128m freenet.node.Main
Done


it never moves on to the second part.

On 4/26/07, Juiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On 4/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm trying to get Freenet 0.5 working, but I'm encountering the following
 error:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] freenet]# sh start-freenet.sh
  Detected freenet-ext.jar
  Detected freenet.jar
  Sun java detected.
  Sun Java 1.4.2 detected.
  Starting Freenet now: Command line: java -Xmx128m
  -XX:MaxDirectMemorySize=128m freenet.node.Main
  Done
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] freenet]# Unrecognised command line option:
  -XX:MaxDirectMemorySize=128m
  Usage: java [-options] class [arg1 arg2 ...]
   (to run a class file)
 or  java [-options] -jar jarfile [arg1 arg2 ...]
   (to run a standalone jar file)
 
  where options include:
-helpprint out this message
-version print out version number and copyright information
-showversion show version number and copyright and continue
-cp -classpath   jar/zip files and directories separated by :
 locations where to find application classes
-verbose[:class|gc|jni]
 :class print out information about class loading, etc.
 :gc print out results of garbage collection
 :jni print out native method dynamic resolution
-Dname=value set a system property
-X   show help on non-standard options
 
 
 
 

 Quick and dirty fix:  edit start-freenet.sh and remove the
 -XX:MaxDirectMemorySize=128m from the command line.

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Re: [freenet-support] libc.so.6

2007-01-04 Thread urza9814
Hmm. I commented them out, and now it APPEARS to run fine, but it doesn't.

On 1/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 try to remove/comment out the LD_ASSUME_KERNEL thingy in the start scripts.
 I use a 2.6.18.2-kernel, both freenet versions (5 and 7) runs proper without
 this und both give me lib errors if LD_ASSUME_KERNEL is set...

 Am Donnerstag, 4. Januar 2007 02:52 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  So I had this exact same problem before, and I fixed it by using a
  different linux distro (switch from slackware back to Mandriva 2006).
  But now I'm on the distro that worked a year later (Mandriva 2007) and
  it's no longer working. But I'm a bit smarter now, so I'm hoping I can
  get it figured out. Anyways, I have freenet 0.5, jre 5.0, and I'm
  getting the following error:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] fnet2]# sh start-freenet.sh
  Detected freenet-ext.jar
  Detected freenet.jar
  Sun java detected.
  head: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
  shared object file: No such file or directory
  sed: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
  shared object file: No such file or directory
  grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
  shared object file: No such file or directory
  grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
  shared object file: No such file or directory
  grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
  shared object file: No such file or directory
  Sun Java 1.4.2 detected.
  uname: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
  shared object file: No such file or directory
  Starting Freenet now: Command line: java -Xmx128m freenet.node.Main
  nice: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
  shared object file: No such file or directory
  Done
 
  I know, you shouldn't run freenet as root. That's step 2. lol
  Anyways, the problem with the above error is that I have libc.so.6.
  It's currently located in /lib, and is pointing to libc-2.4.so  Should
  I maybe link to it from somewhere else? Is it a problem with libc-2.4?
  (I had 2.3.5 before). Any ideas?

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[freenet-support] libc.so.6

2007-01-03 Thread urza9814
So I had this exact same problem before, and I fixed it by using a
different linux distro (switch from slackware back to Mandriva 2006).
But now I'm on the distro that worked a year later (Mandriva 2007) and
it's no longer working. But I'm a bit smarter now, so I'm hoping I can
get it figured out. Anyways, I have freenet 0.5, jre 5.0, and I'm
getting the following error:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] fnet2]# sh start-freenet.sh
Detected freenet-ext.jar
Detected freenet.jar
Sun java detected.
head: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
sed: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
Sun Java 1.4.2 detected.
uname: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
Starting Freenet now: Command line: java -Xmx128m freenet.node.Main
nice: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
Done

I know, you shouldn't run freenet as root. That's step 2. lol
Anyways, the problem with the above error is that I have libc.so.6.
It's currently located in /lib, and is pointing to libc-2.4.so  Should
I maybe link to it from somewhere else? Is it a problem with libc-2.4?
(I had 2.3.5 before). Any ideas?

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Re: [freenet-support] HELP!!!!!

2006-12-19 Thread urza9814
You are far from the first person to have a problem with getting node
refs for Freenet 0.7. I'm gonna say what I tell everyone else: Don't
use 0.7. It's pretty much experimental. There's a good reason a large
number of us are holding on to 0.5, a big one for me being that it's a
true opennet instead of a riskier, pseudo-opennet. In other words, you
don't have to mess with any of this getting node refs and IRC crap.

http://freenetproject.org/download-old.html


On 12/19/06, Volodya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 damian alexander wrote:
  well i went into mIRCwent into freenodewent into freenet-refsdidnt see 1
  single person in the room . anyone you know who runs windows ? so i can get
  the right commands to connect  run freenet corectly ?

 If you haven't seen anybody on #freenet-refs then you've done something 
 wrong, most
 probably you haven't connected to the correct network.

 Try this:
 /server irc.freenode.net
 (wait until connected)
 /join #freenet-refs

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Re: [freenet-support] HELP!!!!!

2006-12-19 Thread urza9814
All the download links on that page are 0.5. If you're on windows hit
the 'freenet-java-webinstall.exe' link, if on linux/unix use the
'freenet-stable-latest.tgz'

On 12/19/06, damian alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hmm , went to that link didnt see a download for 0.5,???


 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Re: [freenet-support] HELP!
 Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 17:53:23 -0500
 
 You are far from the first person to have a problem with getting node
 refs for Freenet 0.7. I'm gonna say what I tell everyone else: Don't
 use 0.7. It's pretty much experimental. There's a good reason a large
 number of us are holding on to 0.5, a big one for me being that it's a
 true opennet instead of a riskier, pseudo-opennet. In other words, you
 don't have to mess with any of this getting node refs and IRC crap.
 
 http://freenetproject.org/download-old.html
 
 
 On 12/19/06, Volodya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   damian alexander wrote:
well i went into mIRCwent into freenodewent into freenet-refsdidnt
 see 1
single person in the room . anyone you know who runs windows ? so i
 can get
the right commands to connect  run freenet corectly ?
  
   If you haven't seen anybody on #freenet-refs then you've done something
 wrong, most
   probably you haven't connected to the correct network.
  
   Try this:
   /server irc.freenode.net
   (wait until connected)
   /join #freenet-refs
  
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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet (0.5, Build 5106) has trouble with time transitions

2006-10-29 Thread urza9814

Mine didn't.
I'm running 0.5 on Linux.
When I ran 0.5 on WinXP, it hit 100% CPU usage half an hour after I
started it anyways

Mebbe it's a problem in 0.7?

On 10/29/06, Mr. Flibble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It happened before, and it happened again tonight. I got woken up by
 alarms indicating 100 % CPU usage, and found out it was being caused
 by Freenet, so I restarted it.
 Obviously it has problems when summer/winter time transitions occur.
 It's only twice a year, but thought I should mention it.

Ah! That would explain why mine crashed too last night!



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Re: [freenet-support] Re: Welcome to the Support mailing list

2006-10-28 Thread urza9814

You need to connect to irc.freenode.net with an IRC client, not your
web browser.
Try mirc, which is available here:
http://www.mirc.com/get.html

You could also (and I highly recommend this approach) try downloading
Freenet 0.5 instead, which does not require you to manually gather
node references. However, freenet 0.7 and 0.5 are two completely
separate networks. There is no connection between them. However, there
are still a lot of people on 0.5, as 0.7 is incomplete and, we feel,
has quite a few flaws. Of course, most of the people on here will
disagree with me on that...but the point is, both 0.5 and 0.7 have a
large amount of users that trust them, I personally am a user of 0.5,
and I think 0.5 is a LOT easier to get started with.
Anyways, here's where you can get 0.5:
http://freenetproject.org/download-old.html

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On 28/10/06, Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 I am trying to work with the freenet project after hearing about it last
night on newnight! Am not very computer orientated though and am finding it
a bit difficult. I have down loaded the software, but when i try and access
http://irc.freenode.net/ to get connected (If you don't know anyone running
Freenet, visit #freenet-refs on irc.freenode.net and ask nicely to exchange
references with someone.) it wants Nagios Access code and password, what is
this?
 Thanks



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Re: [freenet-support] UNINSTALLER

2006-09-07 Thread urza9814

You do realize that on Limewire ANYONE can see what you search, what
you download, and who you are, right? Limewire makes you create a
username and gives out your IP address. I have found people's exact
street address with just a username and IP. It's not that hard.
Freenet, on the other hand, protects everything.
Oh, and limewire has no way of publishing websites, no distributed
data store, and no message boards.

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On Thursday 07 September 2006 08:36, tommie delap wrote:
i dont know but limewire works really well!!! tell your friends to stay
 away from freenet , it sucks bad!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7

2006-09-01 Thread urza9814

Meh...depends where you're at. It's not one giant firewallit's a
regional thing. Beijing must just have high security. Seems odd that
they'd block out SSHbut I suppose SSH is a good way to hide what
you're doing.

On 9/1/06, Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 01:12:53PM -0500, GeckoX wrote:
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 I was in China last year. I was able to create a VPN connection in the US 
with no problem. Most of the web didn't work, even SSL. SSH was completely blocked 
as well, which is why I was surprised that I could connect via VPN with no 
problems. This was in Beijing.

I'm surprised SSL doesn't work - don't they _want_ to do business with
the West?

 :brian

 ++ 31/08/06 15:31 +0100 - Matthew Toseland:
 On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 06:01:45PM +0400, Roman V. Isaev wrote:
  On 08/31, Matthew Toseland wrote:
 Have you thought about that ignoring reset packets thing that was
 shown to make it possible to bypass The Great Firewall? I mean, I
 don't know too much about it, or if it'd be possible for
 freenetbut it might be worth looking in to.
That would involve platform-specific code, there's no way to do that in
java.
   It's unnecessary anyway because it only applies to TCP. It does however
   tell us something very interesting and useful: The firewall is stateless 
!!
   They pick up forbidden keywords on a packet and then send a reset
   packet, they don't even delete later packets on the same connection
   because *they don't track connections at all* !
 
  But they will do that, sooner or later. It's just a matter of time. Another
  chunk of money for Cisco I guess...
 
 The interesting thing is you can connect to IRC and discuss forbidden
 keywords... Also that study is curious because I heard they block the
 whole page, rather than just interrupt it in the middle...
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Re: [freenet-chat] Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7

2006-08-30 Thread urza9814

Have you thought about that ignoring reset packets thing that was
shown to make it possible to bypass The Great Firewall? I mean, I
don't know too much about it, or if it'd be possible for
freenetbut it might be worth looking in to.

Also just wanna add that I fully support the desire to help get around
the chinese firewalls and stuffbut you're one of hundreds of
projects working on that same goaland personally, I'm not using
0.7 until there's a working opennet. As much as it may seem like I'm
totally against darknetsit's not so much what you're working on,
it's how. I still feel quite strongly that the main page should send
new users to a download page for 0.5, not 0.7. As for the issue of
getting a working opennet...I'll join the other people in backing
offI suppose I can wait another year or so for a new versionI
just hope 0.5 will last that long without any fresh users.

On 8/30/06, David 'Bombe' Roden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Wednesday 30 August 2006 22:35, inverse wrote:

 beyond harvesting the connected IP addresses to raid their owner's
 homes, one big concern with encrypted protocols is that they can be
 filtered out by application-level scanning firewalls. I think this is
 exactly what's happening in China.

Yes, the session bytes that are used to initiate connections are
typical.


 Public-key encrypted communications show constant patterns the moment
 a public key is exchanged between hosts.

Communication between 0.7 nodes doesn't have to exchange public keys,
those are already known as they are contained in the node reference.


David


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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-27 Thread urza9814

I got nothing. No 'icon', no tags to place an icon, nothing.

On 8/27/06, Nicholas Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

When I opened the message below all that displayed was an icon.  When I
attempted to save the icon all hell broke loose.  My mail client was
closed.  After some attempts I was able to reboot and the spamblocker
(earthlink) had examined the message and found nothing suspicious.  However
now I found that a message was displayed as shown below.  A similar
behavior with the message immediately preceding and with the same i icon.
Anyone have some suggestions of what had happened or why the message
behaved so peculiarly?  Incidently the icon was utitled when I attempted
to save it -- my common practice when a mail message appears to be peculiar.


 [Original Message]
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: support@freenetproject.org
 Date: 8/27/2006 12:19:54 AM
 Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

 I agree. I wouldn't want to be the only connection between 2 networks, or
 even one of a small few. I simply don't have the bandwidth. Maybe a T1 or
T3
 could handle it, but not what 90+% of the people using freenet would have
to
 work with.

 As I follow these threads I begin to see a core group of people that are
 promoting 0.7 as the way to go. They have ideas about how it will work,
but
 so far I haven't seen convincing evidence to show how it's going to
actually
 do what they say. I understand 0.7 is in it's infancy, but it's really
 premature and living in an incubator. It's got a long way to go to be
able
 to meet the level of use people are claiming it will have.

 I was running 0.7, I'm in the process of changing OS on the PC that was
 running it, but I did not like having to exchange information with
someone
 on IRC. It's the first time I've ever had anything to do with IRC, and
 though some people are IRC advocates I've never been one. I didn't know
the
 people I was connecting to at all, and the only reason it didn't bother
me
 was because I was simply provide a computer and bandwidth. If I had an
 agenda, or a real reason to be using freenet, I would never have
considered
 giving out information. I was about as anonymous as if I had posted my IP
 address on Google for everyone to view.

 It may be called darknet, but someone forgot to turn off the light.


 Yea, but you don't know all the nodes in the network, you just know
 the ones your connected to. So if one of those links between the
 networks goes down, half your downloads stall out and die. And
 wouldn't that put a pretty big strain on certain computers? I mean, if
 you get this global network of small networks...90% of the data you
 request will probably be on another 'network'. The number of
 connections between these networks is going to be a lot smaller than
 connections within the network. Therefore the computers that connect
 between them are gonna have a much greater strain on them than the
 ones that are only linked to one 'network'. And if these individual
 networks fully connect and integrate...you have an opennet. Except you
 have to physically get your node connections from someone else. So you
 have an opennet with much fewer connections, which doesn't seem like a
 good thing.
 
 
 On 8/26/06, Evan Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 8/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Freenet 0.5 is an opennet. You connect to any random node that
 happens
   to be on. Freenet 0.7 doesn't have this yet. In 0.7, there is no
main
   network. There might be now, but the idea of the way it currently
is
   setup is to allow small groups to connect without connecting to
   everyone else.
   
   That is not true.  Freenet 0.7 is designed to form one global
 network, not
   multiple independent networks consisting of small groups.
   
   Ian.
  
   Ian,
  
   How can freenet grow to be a global network unless someone in one
group
   trades connection information with someone in another group?
  
   Hypothetical - A group of people in England, another in France,
another
 in
   Russia, and another in China have grown individual trusted 0.7
 freenets. No
   one in any of these groups knows someone in the other freenet group,
 and
   they don't want to just advertise in IRC chat to find someone to
 connect to
   because they don't know and trust this as a way to add people to
their
   freenet. How will these freenet groups become a part of a global
 network?
 
 They won't.  But your assumptions are off -- there's lots of good
 reasons to assume that once a small local network passes a handful of
 connected users it will gain a connection to a different network.  And
 then you have a global network.  This is what is meant when people say
 0.7 is designed to form a global network -- there is no magic, except
 for the underlying properties of the social connections the network is
 built upon.
 
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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-27 Thread urza9814

Exactly. The theory of a darknet is you connect to people that you
already know and trust. Now, there's a good chance of getting a
worldwide-net because someone in group A may know and trust someone in
group B, but chances are that not all of group A knows all of group B.
For a real-world analogy...I don't have a problem hanging out with my
girlfriend and her friends...she has no problem being with me and my
friends...but my friends and her friends would never meet
independently. Perhaps they would become friends with time...and
perhaps people in group A of the darknet would get to know and trust
people in group B of the darknetbut that would take time. I mean,
I know that personally it's gonna take a few years of knowing someone
before I would trust them well enough to talk about the kinda stuff
some people do on freenet. I mean, yea, that time might be lowered by
someone else you trust saying 'they're cool, don't worry about
it'...but still, by the time you have a global network, freenet 1.0 is
gonna be out.

Plus it makes freenet a much better target for government agencies.
Chances are the people you are connected directly to in freenet you
know very well. Chances are the people you know very well live in the
same country as you, if for no other reason than a shared language. So
chances are, if they bust one freenet node, they can bust all
connected nodes.

And that actually made me think of one other thing. If you have a
darknet in, say, Germany, they will most likely all speak German and
upload German files. So how would they get joined to a darknet that
mostly spoke English and uploads English files? Only people who speak
both languages relatively well will bother to connect to both
networks. But they have to not only speak both languages but also know
and trust someone else who speaks the other language. Which seems to
point back to smaller networks connected in few places.


On 8/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Evan,

You are right - there is a lot of data to show that social networks do
expand in the method being said here, but that data is based on known,
non-anonymous social networks. In an anonymous network the rule of thumb is
trust no one.

If an openet is not the solution, neither is posting information with an
embeded IP number the solution. I don't know how the openet is hackable,
especially if node connections pr paths through nodes change randomly
(TOR-like), but with a manually established network it only takes capturing
1 node and the entire freenet is at risk. I would be more inclined to
exchange node information with someone if the information were encrypted -
private/public key. In an anonymous social network I would be more inclined
to expand that network to others because my node information is encrypted.



From: Evan Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], support@freenetproject.org
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: support@freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 10:06:37 -0400

Please justify your assumptions.

There is a lot of data on social networks that says that is not how
they look.  I see no reason to believe the social networks a freenet
darknet would be built upon would be different.

Evan

On 8/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yea, but you don't know all the nodes in the network, you just know
the ones your connected to. So if one of those links between the
networks goes down, half your downloads stall out and die. And
wouldn't that put a pretty big strain on certain computers? I mean, if
you get this global network of small networks...90% of the data you
request will probably be on another 'network'. The number of
connections between these networks is going to be a lot smaller than
connections within the network. Therefore the computers that connect
between them are gonna have a much greater strain on them than the
ones that are only linked to one 'network'. And if these individual
networks fully connect and integrate...you have an opennet. Except you
have to physically get your node connections from someone else. So you
have an opennet with much fewer connections, which doesn't seem like a
good thing.


On 8/26/06, Evan Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 8/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Freenet 0.5 is an opennet. You connect to any random node that
happens
   to be on. Freenet 0.7 doesn't have this yet. In 0.7, there is no
main
   network. There might be now, but the idea of the way it currently
is
   setup is to allow small groups to connect without connecting to
   everyone else.
   
   That is not true.  Freenet 0.7 is designed to form one global
network, not
   multiple independent networks consisting of small groups.
   
   Ian.
  
   Ian,
  
   How can freenet grow to be a global network unless someone in one
group
   trades connection information with someone in another group?
  
   Hypothetical - A group of people in 

Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-26 Thread urza9814

Through the opennet. Which won't exist for, like, a year.
Hmmm.

On 8/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Freenet 0.5 is an opennet. You connect to any random node that happens
to be on. Freenet 0.7 doesn't have this yet. In 0.7, there is no main
network. There might be now, but the idea of the way it currently is
setup is to allow small groups to connect without connecting to
everyone else.

That is not true.  Freenet 0.7 is designed to form one global  network, not
multiple independent networks consisting of small groups.

Ian.

Ian,

How can freenet grow to be a global network unless someone in one group
trades connection information with someone in another group?

Hypothetical - A group of people in England, another in France, another in
Russia, and another in China have grown individual trusted 0.7 freenets. No
one in any of these groups knows someone in the other freenet group, and
they don't want to just advertise in IRC chat to find someone to connect to
because they don't know and trust this as a way to add people to their
freenet. How will these freenet groups become a part of a global network?

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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-24 Thread urza9814

Freenet 0.5 is an opennet. You connect to any random node that happens
to be on. Freenet 0.7 doesn't have this yet. In 0.7, there is no main
network. There might be now, but the idea of the way it currently is
setup is to allow small groups to connect without connecting to
everyone else. Pretty much, there's nowhere for the content to go.
It'd be like trying to move everything on the internet to your local
LAN.
That, and it's just a complete program re-write I believe. It's quite
easy to 'convert' the content...open a page, save it, and then
re-upload it. The data stores work differently, and anyways the data
is distributed, so there wouldn't be any easy way to move it over.

On 8/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I've got a question for the developers.

First a couple of comments.

I've been watching the thread 0.5 vs 0.7, and although you want to move it
somewhere else I welcome it.

I brought up 0.7 about 5 days ago. It's been running ever since, I think. I
don't monitor the PC that it is on, but I do see activity on the router port
for the PC. I didn't much like the idea of asking people to let me access
Freenet through them, but I did. I still think that is a good idea to gain
initial access to Freenet, but after that it should go find other nodes and
establish connections to them. I shouldn't have to always rely on the ones
that were on IRC chat at the time I decided to set up the application.

That said, here is by question.

From what I've seen here, there is a huge base of Freenet users on 0.5, and
a large amount of content. What I fail to understand is why going to version
0.7 all of that userbase and content was dropped. Why there was no way to
connect to that Freenet and have access to the users and the content. I've
tried to think of an example of some other internet application that made
such a radical change that the entire existing base was dropped, and quite
frankly I can't come up with one. I've seen application for my PC change so
radically the data from the old application had to be converted before it
would work, but a migration path was always provided. Developers, why did
you do that?

I'm new to the Freenet community, and I find it incredulous that years of
effort involved with building the Freenet community was abandoned
completely. What you have created is a 0.5 and a 0.7 Freenet; both will
exist into the future. Just as many security conscious people quit upgrading
PGP after 6.52 because source code was no longer readily available, many
people will quit upgrading Freenet after 0.5. The difference is with PGP a
file encrypted with 6.52 can be read by the newer versions. Freenet has
isolated all of it's previous userbase and content.

There is a saying, Throwing out the baby with the bath water. You have
done just that.

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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-24 Thread urza9814

As I see it 0.7 relies on a bunch of people hooking up by sharing node
information. I may be a part of a freenet 0.7 network that consists of less
than 20 people. Out there somewhere else is another group of people, but
that group might be 100 people. Unless someone in the 2 groups makes a
connection, shares node information, the 2 groups don't talk to each other.
Making matters worse, the only connection they have is through that one
shared connection. There is no redundancy. Am I wrong in this assumption?

Yup...pretty much. That's why so many people refuse to switch to 0.7
until there's a working opennet. I'm one of them. With an opennet, you
connect to anyone who's online, with multiple connections. Don't have
to trade references and you get a lot more connections with no effort.
Not totally sure about the 'if the one node linking them dies you lose
all that data' part...seems like that's how it'd be handled, but I
haven't looked into 0.7 too much...because it has no opennet, so I
have no use for it.

On 8/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What about a pipe to the 0.5 freenet from 0.7 that allows access to the
data? A 1-way street. 0.7 can add  data to the 0.7 freenet, but can and to
the 0.5 freenet. Only access the data. From what I have gathered,
'inserting' data into freenet is not a quick task.

As I see it 0.7 relies on a bunch of people hooking up by sharing node
information. I may be a part of a freenet 0.7 network that consists of less
than 20 people. Out there somewhere else is another group of people, but
that group might be 100 people. Unless someone in the 2 groups makes a
connection, shares node information, the 2 groups don't talk to each other.
Making matters worse, the only connection they have is through that one
shared connection. There is no redundancy. Am I wrong in this assumption?




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: support@freenetproject.org
To: support@freenetproject.org
Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:01:46 -0400

Freenet 0.5 is an opennet. You connect to any random node that happens
to be on. Freenet 0.7 doesn't have this yet. In 0.7, there is no main
network. There might be now, but the idea of the way it currently is
setup is to allow small groups to connect without connecting to
everyone else. Pretty much, there's nowhere for the content to go.
It'd be like trying to move everything on the internet to your local
LAN.
That, and it's just a complete program re-write I believe. It's quite
easy to 'convert' the content...open a page, save it, and then
re-upload it. The data stores work differently, and anyways the data
is distributed, so there wouldn't be any easy way to move it over.

On 8/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've got a question for the developers.

First a couple of comments.

I've been watching the thread 0.5 vs 0.7, and although you want to move it
somewhere else I welcome it.

I brought up 0.7 about 5 days ago. It's been running ever since, I think.
I
don't monitor the PC that it is on, but I do see activity on the router
port
for the PC. I didn't much like the idea of asking people to let me access
Freenet through them, but I did. I still think that is a good idea to gain
initial access to Freenet, but after that it should go find other nodes
and
establish connections to them. I shouldn't have to always rely on the ones
that were on IRC chat at the time I decided to set up the application.

That said, here is by question.

 From what I've seen here, there is a huge base of Freenet users on 0.5,
and
a large amount of content. What I fail to understand is why going to
version
0.7 all of that userbase and content was dropped. Why there was no way to
connect to that Freenet and have access to the users and the content. I've
tried to think of an example of some other internet application that made
such a radical change that the entire existing base was dropped, and quite
frankly I can't come up with one. I've seen application for my PC change
so
radically the data from the old application had to be converted before it
would work, but a migration path was always provided. Developers, why did
you do that?

I'm new to the Freenet community, and I find it incredulous that years of
effort involved with building the Freenet community was abandoned
completely. What you have created is a 0.5 and a 0.7 Freenet; both will
exist into the future. Just as many security conscious people quit
upgrading
PGP after 6.52 because source code was no longer readily available, many
people will quit upgrading Freenet after 0.5. The difference is with PGP a
file encrypted with 6.52 can be read by the newer versions. Freenet has
isolated all of it's previous userbase and content.

There is a saying, Throwing out the baby with the bath water. You have
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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-24 Thread urza9814

True, but the opennet isn't illegal.
I'm not in any way saying the darknet shouldn't be added...it's a
great feature...but freenet has always been an opennet, and that
should be done first. People who want a darknet are probably already
using other programs like Waste. If they start thinking about making
the opennet form of freenet illegal, we'll know long before it
happens. And there will be plenty of people (EFF, ACLU, etc) fighting
it. I realize there are other countries where they can't use an
opennet, but like I said, there are other darknet programs out there.
That's not what freenet is.

On 8/24/06, Lars Juel Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 8/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As I see it 0.7 relies on a bunch of people hooking up by sharing node
 information. I may be a part of a freenet 0.7 network that consists of less
 than 20 people. Out there somewhere else is another group of people, but
 that group might be 100 people. Unless someone in the 2 groups makes a
 connection, shares node information, the 2 groups don't talk to each other.
 Making matters worse, the only connection they have is through that one
 shared connection. There is no redundancy. Am I wrong in this assumption?

 Yup...pretty much. That's why so many people refuse to switch to 0.7
 until there's a working opennet. I'm one of them. With an opennet, you
 connect to anyone who's online, with multiple connections. Don't have
 to trade references and you get a lot more connections with no effort.

What will you do when freenet is made illegal and all the nodes are
being harvested and blocked by a national firewall? Then the whole
network fall apart, this can not happen with a darknet if it's done
right. To take down a darknet you have to find participants and trick
them to letting you in and then you can start finding out which hosts
are part of it.

It's a lot easier, cheaper and faster to take down an opennet than a darknet.

 Not totally sure about the 'if the one node linking them dies you lose
 all that data' part...seems like that's how it'd be handled, but I
 haven't looked into 0.7 too much...because it has no opennet, so I
 have no use for it.

 On 8/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What about a pipe to the 0.5 freenet from 0.7 that allows access to the
  data? A 1-way street. 0.7 can add  data to the 0.7 freenet, but can and to
  the 0.5 freenet. Only access the data. From what I have gathered,
  'inserting' data into freenet is not a quick task.
 
  As I see it 0.7 relies on a bunch of people hooking up by sharing node
  information. I may be a part of a freenet 0.7 network that consists of less
  than 20 people. Out there somewhere else is another group of people, but
  that group might be 100 people. Unless someone in the 2 groups makes a
  connection, shares node information, the 2 groups don't talk to each other.
  Making matters worse, the only connection they have is through that one
  shared connection. There is no redundancy. Am I wrong in this assumption?
 
 
 
 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: support@freenetproject.org
  To: support@freenetproject.org
  Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7
  Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:01:46 -0400
  
  Freenet 0.5 is an opennet. You connect to any random node that happens
  to be on. Freenet 0.7 doesn't have this yet. In 0.7, there is no main
  network. There might be now, but the idea of the way it currently is
  setup is to allow small groups to connect without connecting to
  everyone else. Pretty much, there's nowhere for the content to go.
  It'd be like trying to move everything on the internet to your local
  LAN.
  That, and it's just a complete program re-write I believe. It's quite
  easy to 'convert' the content...open a page, save it, and then
  re-upload it. The data stores work differently, and anyways the data
  is distributed, so there wouldn't be any easy way to move it over.
  
  On 8/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've got a question for the developers.
  
  First a couple of comments.
  
  I've been watching the thread 0.5 vs 0.7, and although you want to move it
  somewhere else I welcome it.
  
  I brought up 0.7 about 5 days ago. It's been running ever since, I think.
  I
  don't monitor the PC that it is on, but I do see activity on the router
  port
  for the PC. I didn't much like the idea of asking people to let me access
  Freenet through them, but I did. I still think that is a good idea to gain
  initial access to Freenet, but after that it should go find other nodes
  and
  establish connections to them. I shouldn't have to always rely on the ones
  that were on IRC chat at the time I decided to set up the application.
  
  That said, here is by question.
  
   From what I've seen here, there is a huge base of Freenet users on 0.5,
  and
  a large amount of content. What I fail to understand is why going to
  version
  0.7 all of that userbase and content was 

Re: Migration path, please! (Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7

2006-08-24 Thread urza9814

opennets are only bad in certain circumstances. The USA is not yet one
of them. With a darknet, it may be harder to get into the network, but
once your in it's a LOT easier to identify who is sharing and
inserting what files. So it could be argued that a darknet is much
riskier than an opennet. In a darknet, everyone else pretty much knows
who you are. As soon as one computer on the net gets compromised or
one person decides they don't like what you're doing, you're all
pretty much screwed. I mean, I'm no expert on darknets, but it seems
that if you only have 5 or 10 connections, and you always have the
same connections, and you have IRC logs swapping node refs and, better
yet, the actual node ref...it would be pretty easy to figure out what
nodes host what files. In an opennet, this kind of thing is expected
and protected against.

On 8/24/06, Juiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 8/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So by running 0.7 in default mode I'm running in darknet? Or is there
 another piece of the freenet puzzle I need to discover?



It is a darknet because unless you give out your ref to someone
(like currently on IRC but that will change when 0.7 becomes large
enough for users to know friends using 0.7), it almost impractical to
tell you are even running Freenet.  The open-net is promiscuous and
is easily mapped.  See
http://www.itic.ca/DIC/News/archive.html#2004-05-25

They can have your IP address and with an ignorant judge, the RIAA
MPAA etc can serve you a lawsuit for copyright violations (regardless
of whether or not you are infringing.)  All they have to do is
convince a technologically ignorant judge that Freenet is like the old
Napster or similar program and they traced copyrighted material
coming off your IP address.  You are now hiring a lawyer to get the
case dismissed.  That is a plausible reason to use a darknet instead
of an open-net here in the free West.  Now imagine running the
program can get you thrown in jail for subversive information
spreading in some Eastern country and they can collect the info just
as quickly with an open-net...  A darknet would slow them down
immensely.

Now you see why open-nets are bad in the long run?


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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.5 or Freenet 0.7

2006-08-23 Thread urza9814

With 0.5's opennet you don't have to exchange node references. At all.
Your node does it for you. And you'll usually have around 400
connections with the default settings. And 0.5 has more content and
probably more users, though I'm not sure on that one.


On 8/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm new to Freenet and have been watching the discussion about version 0.5
vs 0.7. I'm not sure what is meant when the 0.5 advocates talk about
OpenNet, so could someone enlighten me? I went to the Freenet site hoping to
find information related to 0.5, even in the WIKI, but it now only contains
information about 0.7.

I have dedicate an unmonitored Windows XP Pro machine and 1/3 of my
bandwidth to Freenet. I downloaded and installed 0.7, a no brainer, and got
it running, but had no nodes to connect to. I had to know another Freenet
user, preferably someone I knew and trusted, and manually establish a
connection to them, and they in turn had to have established a connection to
someone else. Since I know absolutely no other person who is running Freenet
I had to learn how to use IRC Chat so I could ask someone if I could connect
to them. These connections are my sole points of contact to Freenet. I have
no idea how 0.5 handles finding nodes. I don't know who these people are.
For all I know they could be individuals living on the other side of town,
the country, or the world and they could just as easily be members of MI5,
FBI, CIA, or any number of other organizations who monitor and track
messages on the internet. I do know their IP address, and they know mine. I
tried to find some people who run 24/7 since having a PC dedicated to Freent
fulltime, without having someone who is also on 24/7 is not worth much.

I have 7 people who have exchanged node information with me. Of the 7 nodes,
none are currently connected to me, and if I understand the information, the
last to go offline did so more than 14 hours ago. I can wait to see if they
come back online, or I can go back into the IRC chat and try to find new
nodes. I absolutely hate having to spend time in IRC chat trying to get
people to exchange connection information with me. I have better things to
spend my time on, and if Freenet wants my machine and bandwidth it's going
to have to make sure it stays connected.

Freenet should have me put in a single node, any node, even one found on IRC
chat, and spider the rest of Freenet establishing and making new connection
to ensure it stays connected, or it should do something else to
automatically establish connections. At any rate, once that connection is
made, Freenet should randomly move my connections throughout the Freenet. I
should never have hard and firm connections. By 'floating' my connections
throughout Freenet it can honestly be said I don't know who I'm connected to
and am simply a node in a collective whole.

I'm going to continue to watch the forum and see how things progress. I'll
leave my current 0.7 Freenet installed and over the coming weeks decide
whether to continue, remove and install 0.5, or just shut down completely.

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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.5 or Freenet 0.7

2006-08-23 Thread urza9814

My bad. 400 known nodes. Though...I have 50 connections right now and
I'm not doing anything. Not running frost, not surving any sites...all
inbound I guess.

On 8/23/06, Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

400 connections? I hardly ever saw more than 100.

On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 09:09:59AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 With 0.5's opennet you don't have to exchange node references. At all.
 Your node does it for you. And you'll usually have around 400
 connections with the default settings. And 0.5 has more content and
 probably more users, though I'm not sure on that one.


 On 8/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm new to Freenet and have been watching the discussion about version 0.5
 vs 0.7. I'm not sure what is meant when the 0.5 advocates talk about
 OpenNet, so could someone enlighten me? I went to the Freenet site hoping
 to
 find information related to 0.5, even in the WIKI, but it now only contains
 information about 0.7.
 
 I have dedicate an unmonitored Windows XP Pro machine and 1/3 of my
 bandwidth to Freenet. I downloaded and installed 0.7, a no brainer, and got
 it running, but had no nodes to connect to. I had to know another Freenet
 user, preferably someone I knew and trusted, and manually establish a
 connection to them, and they in turn had to have established a connection
 to
 someone else. Since I know absolutely no other person who is running
 Freenet
 I had to learn how to use IRC Chat so I could ask someone if I could
 connect
 to them. These connections are my sole points of contact to Freenet. I have
 no idea how 0.5 handles finding nodes. I don't know who these people are.
 For all I know they could be individuals living on the other side of town,
 the country, or the world and they could just as easily be members of MI5,
 FBI, CIA, or any number of other organizations who monitor and track
 messages on the internet. I do know their IP address, and they know mine. I
 tried to find some people who run 24/7 since having a PC dedicated to
 Freent
 fulltime, without having someone who is also on 24/7 is not worth much.
 
 I have 7 people who have exchanged node information with me. Of the 7
 nodes,
 none are currently connected to me, and if I understand the information,
 the
 last to go offline did so more than 14 hours ago. I can wait to see if they
 come back online, or I can go back into the IRC chat and try to find new
 nodes. I absolutely hate having to spend time in IRC chat trying to get
 people to exchange connection information with me. I have better things to
 spend my time on, and if Freenet wants my machine and bandwidth it's going
 to have to make sure it stays connected.
 
 Freenet should have me put in a single node, any node, even one found on
 IRC
 chat, and spider the rest of Freenet establishing and making new connection
 to ensure it stays connected, or it should do something else to
 automatically establish connections. At any rate, once that connection is
 made, Freenet should randomly move my connections throughout the Freenet. I
 should never have hard and firm connections. By 'floating' my connections
 throughout Freenet it can honestly be said I don't know who I'm connected
 to
 and am simply a node in a collective whole.
 
 I'm going to continue to watch the forum and see how things progress. I'll
 leave my current 0.7 Freenet installed and over the coming weeks decide
 whether to continue, remove and install 0.5, or just shut down completely.
 
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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-23 Thread urza9814

0.7 isn't a stable version either. It's a not nearly completed, far
from functional version.

On 8/23/06, Ortwin Regel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

0.5 isn't a stable version. It's an outdated version that many people
happen to use. Of course you can keep using 0.5 and slowly watch it
die, or even try to keep it alive. But the freenet team wants you to
populate 0.7 so they can improve it. It's unfortunate that it scares
away a few users too lazy to run 0.7 but they will come back once it's
better and stable.

On 8/22/06, an ominous cow herd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't think that the 0.5 network needs active coding. It's fine the way it
 is. It should be stated that there will be no patches or bug fixes for the
 0.5 network, but putting it in small print and calling it unsupported while
 directing new users to the alpha 0.7 network just doesn't make sense. The
 0.5 network should be called the stable version and 0.7 should be the
 unstable version, just like it was done in the past. If users ask questions,
 they should be directed to the wiki. Why the big push to get new users on
 the 0.7 network while it's still in the alpha stage?

 On Monday 21 August 2006 14:35, Matthew Toseland wrote:
  We don't have a big enough team to actively support both.
 
  On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 11:31:38PM -0700, an ominous cow herd wrote:
   I can empathize.  Freenet is is one of the first projects that I've seen
   take a working application and push it aside, while directing new users
   to an alpha version.  The way it would normally be done is listing
   Freenet 0.5 as the stable version instead of the unsupported version,
   and 0.7 as the alpha version still under development.  New users would
   opt for the stable version. Having new users directed to an alpha version
   while the stable version is fully functioning is quite strange.
  
   On Saturday 19 August 2006 08:11, - wrote:
Hi,
   
I think you're making a mistake in forcing new people into the beta
test freenet 0.7 instead of the established 0.5.
   
You're forgetting how _highly_ someone new has to be motivated to try
freenet, even version 0.5 which works and is not a beta test. Let's
think about what would motivate someone...
   
I remember when I found freenet, I installed it spent hours reading
over the technical jargon.
It was incredible slow. I removed it thinking this is a pile of crap
that does not work.
   
Only a few months later, did I again bother to go through this
complicated process and after waiting for three days with it on, it
finally started working.
   
The reason I spent many hours and went back after throwing it out once,
was because I was _highly motivated_ for the anonymity and content.
   
Here's the problem:
   
If 0.7 doesn't offer the anonymity and the content, plus it's an
unstable beta test,
why would anyone new bother to join the community?
   
Do you think people are nice enough to offer their time and computers
to beta test some random highly technical peer to peer application that
completely hogs your computer's resources?
   
   
   
The problem with freenet (even 0.5) is, it just isn't user friendly.
A person who just stumbles on freenet does not know if it's actually
going to work. After seeing how slow it is, most people, like myself
will just get rid of it, not bothering to learn all the configurations,
frost, fuqid, etc.
   
If you took the time to create a simple, down-to-earth website and
install program without all the technical jargon, you would double or
triple your user base.
   
The only NEW users you're going to get to freenet 0.7 are going to be
peer-to-peer programming enthusiasts. And how many of those are there
that don't know about freenet already?
   
So instead of scaring all potential freenet users away, It would be
wiser to just ask members of the freenet community to do the beta
testing, and create a nice user friendly website for 0,5 until 0,7 is
working. Even I would be willing to help create this website, and I'm
sure many other people also would volunteer.
   
Best Regards,
   
Van
  
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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-23 Thread urza9814

It has no opennet. As far as I'm concerned, it's useless.

On 8/23/06, Ortwin Regel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Wrong, it works quite well so it's functional. It's not completed but it
needs users to progress.


On 8/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

0.7 isn't a stable version either. It's a not nearly completed, far
from functional version.

On 8/23/06, Ortwin Regel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 0.5 isn't a stable version. It's an outdated version that many people
 happen to use. Of course you can keep using 0.5 and slowly watch it
 die, or even try to keep it alive. But the freenet team wants you to
 populate 0.7 so they can improve it. It's unfortunate that it scares
 away a few users too lazy to run 0.7 but they will come back once it's
 better and stable.

 On 8/22/06, an ominous cow herd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  I don't think that the 0.5 network needs active coding. It's fine the
way it
  is. It should be stated that there will be no patches or bug fixes for
the
  0.5 network, but putting it in small print and calling it unsupported
while
  directing new users to the alpha 0.7 network just doesn't make sense.
The
  0.5 network should be called the stable version and 0.7 should be the
  unstable version, just like it was done in the past. If users ask
questions,
  they should be directed to the wiki. Why the big push to get new users
on
  the 0.7 network while it's still in the alpha stage?
 
  On Monday 21 August 2006 14:35, Matthew Toseland wrote:
   We don't have a big enough team to actively support both.
  
   On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 11:31:38PM -0700, an ominous cow herd wrote:
I can empathize.  Freenet is is one of the first projects that I've
seen
take a working application and push it aside, while directing new
users
to an alpha version.  The way it would normally be done is listing
Freenet 0.5 as the stable version instead of the unsupported
version,
and 0.7 as the alpha version still under development.  New users
would
opt for the stable version. Having new users directed to an alpha
version
while the stable version is fully functioning is quite strange.
   
On Saturday 19 August 2006 08:11, - wrote:
 Hi,

 I think you're making a mistake in forcing new people into the
beta
 test freenet 0.7 instead of the established 0.5.

 You're forgetting how _highly_ someone new has to be motivated to
try
 freenet, even version 0.5 which works and is not a beta test.
Let's
 think about what would motivate someone...

 I remember when I found freenet, I installed it spent hours
reading
 over the technical jargon.
 It was incredible slow. I removed it thinking this is a pile of
crap
 that does not work.

 Only a few months later, did I again bother to go through this
 complicated process and after waiting for three days with it on,
it
 finally started working.

 The reason I spent many hours and went back after throwing it out
once,
 was because I was _highly motivated_ for the anonymity and
content.

 Here's the problem:

 If 0.7 doesn't offer the anonymity and the content, plus it's an
 unstable beta test,
 why would anyone new bother to join the community?

 Do you think people are nice enough to offer their time and
computers
 to beta test some random highly technical peer to peer application
that
 completely hogs your computer's resources?



 The problem with freenet (even 0.5) is, it just isn't user
friendly.
 A person who just stumbles on freenet does not know if it's
actually
 going to work. After seeing how slow it is, most people, like
myself
 will just get rid of it, not bothering to learn all the
configurations,
 frost, fuqid, etc.

 If you took the time to create a simple, down-to-earth website and
 install program without all the technical jargon, you would double
or
 triple your user base.

 The only NEW users you're going to get to freenet 0.7 are going to
be
 peer-to-peer programming enthusiasts. And how many of those are
there
 that don't know about freenet already?

 So instead of scaring all potential freenet users away, It would
be
 wiser to just ask members of the freenet community to do the beta
 testing, and create a nice user friendly website for 0,5 until 0,7
is
 working. Even I would be willing to help create this website, and
I'm
 sure many other people also would volunteer.

 Best Regards,

 Van
   
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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-21 Thread urza9814

.7 has very few users, very little content, and no opennet.
It's useless for new users.

And the security that you say is better has yet to be tested. I
wouldn't bet on something that's only been around for a few months vs.
something that's been slowly improving for...well, longer than I've
known freenet.


On 8/21/06, Julien Cornuwel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

an ominous cow herd a écrit :

I can empathize.  Freenet is is one of the first projects that I've seen take
a working application and push it aside, while directing new users to an
alpha version.  The way it would normally be done is listing Freenet 0.5 as
the stable version instead of the unsupported version, and 0.7 as the alpha
version still under development.  New users would opt for the stable version.
Having new users directed to an alpha version while the stable version is
fully functioning is quite strange.



My point of view is that Freenet has always been a work-in-progress. The
0.5 version you call stable was under developpement just before
becoming unsupported. It has never been stable : google a bit and you'll
find scripts for restarting it every night because of its unstability.

Did you try both versions ? If yes, you should have noticed that they
are quite as stable and that 0.7 offers far better performances and
AFAIK the same security level.

So, why should the developpers of the project push newcomers to an
old/buggy/unsupported/user-hostile network while they are working on
another one that is *already* better ?

My 2 cents


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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-21 Thread urza9814

Anyway, I won't argue on that because the decision is not in my hands.
The fact is that 0.7 is the only supported version and that it is the
future. Not linking to the current version and gripping to the old one
would be an interesting kind of suicide for a project that's a constant
work-in-progress...

Suicide? So the fact that gaim has 1.5 in their downloads section when
they have 2.0 beta 3 out is suicide? The fact that some Linux distros
still use the 2.4 kernel is suicide? Funny how they're all still here
and quite popular
Linking to 0.7 is suicide. New people come, download it, find there's
nothing there, and leave. And don't try again later. I understand that
there are good reasons behind developing the darknetbut for most
users looking at freenet, they're looking for an opennet. And they're
looking for a network up and running. They're not expecting something
that's just barely starting.

On 8/21/06, Julien Cornuwel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :

 .7 has very few users, very little content, and no opennet.
 It's useless for new users.


I'm not sure stopping linking it on the website would help it have more
users. About content, I see new freesites apearing quite the same rythm
as on 0.5 so it's just a matter of time for 0.7 to have as much content
as 0.5.

 And the security that you say is better has yet to be tested. I


Where did I say that ? In the same security level. ?
AFAIK, the same is not equal to better. Maybe I'm wrong.

 wouldn't bet on something that's only been around for a few months vs.
 something that's been slowly improving for...well, longer than I've
 known freenet.


Anyway, I won't argue on that because the decision is not in my hands.
The fact is that 0.7 is the only supported version and that it is the
future. Not linking to the current version and gripping to the old one
would be an interesting kind of suicide for a project that's a constant
work-in-progress...

Regards


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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 build 947

2006-08-16 Thread urza9814

You really ought to get a second mailing list for the 0.7 network.
Because I'm pretty sure no one here cares until there's an opennet.

On 8/16/06, Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Freenet build 947 is now available. This build simply makes 944
mandatory as of midnight GMT on Monday (the 21st). This is important
because of various relatively minor changes in recent builds to load
balancing and the lower layers of Freenet: making load limiting data
persistent, increasing averaging intervals for ping times, a low level
bugfix, some timeout changes and slow start support (a technique
borrowed from TCP to estimate link capacity quickly before getting into
slowly adjusting it). Please upgrade.
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[freenet-support] Linux Spiders

2006-07-14 Thread urza9814

Well, after failing to install Freenet on Slackware, I realized,
Mandrake was the best (in terms of 'just working') Linux distro I'd
ever used up until 10.1 and 2005LE, so I decided to give it another
shot. So far so good. Freenet's running nicely too, once I found the
missing step in the Java installation instructions...

Anyways, I'm looking for a spider. I googled it, but found nothing.
I'd prefer an HTTP link, since freenet is still slow, but if you can
only find a freenet link that's cool too...I got freenet running on
this box under windoze already. Not running very well, but running.
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[freenet-support] libc.so.6

2006-06-19 Thread urza9814

I'm trying to install freenet on slackware, and I must say it's been
quite annoying so far...I had everything in a freenet folder in my
home directory, but had to copy half the files right into my home
directory anyways because it couldn't find them otherwise...but
anyways, here's my current problem:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# '/root/freenet/start-freenet.sh'
Detected freenet-ext.jar
Detected freenet.jar
Sun java detected.
head: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
sed: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
Sun Java 1.4.2 detected.
uname: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
Starting Freenet now: Command line: java -Xmx128m freenet.node.Main
Done
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# nice: error while loading shared libraries:
libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory


Problem is, I have libc.so.6. It's under /lib/
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[freenet-support] Connection timeouts

2006-03-03 Thread urza9814
I keep getting connection timeouts, and I think it might be due to the
nature of my internet connection, but I'm not sure how to go about
fixing that. Basically, what I have is a router connected to two
computers, and then this computer is connected through one of those
two by a cable connection. The problem is that I've gotta somehow
route my freenet connections not only through the router, but also
through the other computer, because this computer's IP address is
192.168.0.x and the router only allows 192.168.2.x for port
forwarding, DMZ, etc.
Anyone know how I can do this?
Both comps are currently on WinXP, though I switch this one into Linux
sometimes, which is the reason for the other comp - my wifi card
doesn't work in Linux.
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