[freenet-support] #1173: Internal error: Found interface freenet.support.compress.Compressor, but class was expected
Hi list, after updating to lastest mandatory build #1173 revision r23439 all my downloads are failing with Internal error: Found interface freenet.support.compress.Compressor, but class was expected as error message. The downloads have been started and taken over from a previous build. Now what? ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] #1173: Internal error: Found interface freenet.support.compress.Compressor, but class was expected
Dennis Nezic wrote: On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 12:07:40 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, after updating to lastest mandatory build #1173 revision r23439 all my downloads are failing with Internal error: Found interface freenet.support.compress.Compressor, but class was expected as error message. The downloads have been started and taken over from a previous build. Strange--all my downloads do seem to have recovered throughout all these past updates. Though, I believe my downloads are fairly recent (a week or so old) inserts--not sure if that matters. Did you try restarting any of them? New compression procedures were introduced around 1170, so maybe that is affecting it. Restarting them resulted in the downloads going back to Internal error: ... within seconds. I tried several times with several node restarts... ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Nearly no content left with correct compression?
1166 has already been released, so using trunk after 1166 got out essentially is 1166+minors Maybe I am wrong here? Matthew Toseland wrote: On Tuesday 28 October 2008 18:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have. With the results shown below... so I downgraded again to 1165+minors. No, you tried trunk, which is completely different. bqz69 wrote: You must upgrade to 1166, which was released yesterday. *** On Tuesday 28 October 2008 10.37.19 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, I just updated to current head and have to find to my dislike that nearly nothing is fetchable anymore. Be it either the found data structure is too old and inaccessible: Error: Archive failure Freenet was unable to retrieve this file. This is a fatal error. It is unlikely that retrying will solve the problem. Failure in extracting files from an archive: An IOE occured: Not in GZIP format for The Ultimate FreeNet Index, Toad, Publish!, Freesite HOWTO, etc etc etc, many many others or the found data structure is too new and not parsed by FProxy: Large file Filename: bombe-51.tar Size: 2.07 MiB (may change) Expected MIME type: application/x-tar This isn't a very productive and joyful situation... at least backward-compatibility could be retained. I'm back to r22882, at least then was 95% of the content working. I wonder what's with the Frost boards / other non-freesite content inserted? In what format are these stored? Is a new full content reset approaching? And needlessy, too, I think. A concerned citizen. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Nearly no content left with correct compression?
Hi guys, I just updated to current head and have to find to my dislike that nearly nothing is fetchable anymore. Be it either the found data structure is too old and inaccessible: Error: Archive failure Freenet was unable to retrieve this file. This is a fatal error. It is unlikely that retrying will solve the problem. Failure in extracting files from an archive: An IOE occured: Not in GZIP format for The Ultimate FreeNet Index, Toad, Publish!, Freesite HOWTO, etc etc etc, many many others or the found data structure is too new and not parsed by FProxy: Large file Filename: bombe-51.tar Size: 2.07 MiB (may change) Expected MIME type: application/x-tar This isn't a very productive and joyful situation... at least backward-compatibility could be retained. I'm back to r22882, at least then was 95% of the content working. I wonder what's with the Frost boards / other non-freesite content inserted? In what format are these stored? Is a new full content reset approaching? And needlessy, too, I think. A concerned citizen. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Nearly no content left with correct compression?
I have. With the results shown below... so I downgraded again to 1165+minors. bqz69 wrote: You must upgrade to 1166, which was released yesterday. *** On Tuesday 28 October 2008 10.37.19 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, I just updated to current head and have to find to my dislike that nearly nothing is fetchable anymore. Be it either the found data structure is too old and inaccessible: Error: Archive failure Freenet was unable to retrieve this file. This is a fatal error. It is unlikely that retrying will solve the problem. Failure in extracting files from an archive: An IOE occured: Not in GZIP format for The Ultimate FreeNet Index, Toad, Publish!, Freesite HOWTO, etc etc etc, many many others or the found data structure is too new and not parsed by FProxy: Large file Filename: bombe-51.tar Size: 2.07 MiB (may change) Expected MIME type: application/x-tar This isn't a very productive and joyful situation... at least backward-compatibility could be retained. I'm back to r22882, at least then was 95% of the content working. I wonder what's with the Frost boards / other non-freesite content inserted? In what format are these stored? Is a new full content reset approaching? And needlessy, too, I think. A concerned citizen. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Official SVN repository - where?
Hi, The Freenet Project seems to be hosted on multiple repositories: - http://freenet.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/freenet (head is 22287, last checkin 12:30:37, 31.08.2008, UUID 3a10de70-7c39-0410-8089-25560844f2f1, obtained from http://freenetproject.org/download.html) - https://emu.freenetproject.org/svn/trunk/freenet (head is 22417, last checkin 18:00:12, 04.09.2008, UUID 67a373e5-eb02-0410-a15c-ee090a768436, being the one I used to use) I find it really disturbing to see that there are multiple repositories - with one even being hosted at google and not even with https! Which is the official repository? Are there even more? Please get this straight. Please close down all not official repositores. Please update all references to the official repository. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] quick question
If these ten nodes are only interconnected with themselves they -of course- have no access to the larger network and therefore form a small private, albeit darknet, network. If one of the nodes is connected to the global darknet, then the ten nodes have access to the global darknet but routing might be impaired as the other nine nodes will not connect to the darknet. Opennet is a completely different story as nodes are seeded by seednodes (therefore private networks are possible if the nodes don't access the seednodes, but by default opennet nodes ask seednodes). Also opennet nodes do swap informations about their peers, so nodes without knowledge of other nodes might come across new noderefs and connect to previously unknown nodes to enhance connectivity. Hope this helped Peter S wrote: Just a simple question; 10 peers, none using opennet, and all interconnected with each node having the other 9 in their trusted peers list .. will they be able to access the 'actual freenet', or is this just a small private and closed circle, with only the content they publish inside that circle available? If 10 peers in a closed loop as described /can/ access the freenet, I just don't understand HOW that's possible without talking to other nodes in an opennet fashion and somewhat compromising the closed loop. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] NPE at freenet.clients.http.bookmark.BookmarkManager.init(BookmarkManager.java:82)
* svn build 16004 * clean install (only freenet[-ext].jar in directory) * called with java -jar [...] node.Node [...] Initializing SSK Datastore Opened main database for ssk-store- Opening access times database for ssk-store- Opened access times database for ssk-store- Opening block db index Opened block number database for ssk-store- Keys in store: db 0 file 0 / max 15344 Initializing SSK Datacache (15344 keys) Opened main database for ssk-cache- Opening access times database for ssk-cache- Opened access times database for ssk-cache- Opening block db index Opened block number database for ssk-cache- Keys in store: db 0 file 0 / max 15344 Deleted 0 of 0 temporary files (0 non-temp files in temp directory) in 0 Initializing USK Manager Error in WrapperListener.start callback. java.lang.NullPointerException java.lang.NullPointerException at freenet.clients.http.bookmark.BookmarkManager.init(BookmarkManager.java:82) at freenet.node.NodeClientCore.init(NodeClientCore.java:349) at freenet.node.Node.init(Node.java:1335) at freenet.node.NodeStarter.start(NodeStarter.java:152) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.startInner(WrapperManager.java:2831) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.privilegedStart(WrapperManager.java:1815) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.access$2400(WrapperManager.java:103) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager$5.run(WrapperManager.java:1743) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.start(WrapperManager.java:1740) at freenet.node.NodeStarter.main(NodeStarter.java:261) at freenet.node.Node.main(Node.java:511) Closing database due to shutdown. Closing database due to shutdown. Closing database due to shutdown. Closing database due to shutdown. Closing database due to shutdown. Closing database due to shutdown. Closed database Closed database Closed database Closed database Closed database Closed database [EOT] ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] java.lang.NullPointerException with purest vanilla freenet
svn revision 13945 when running java -Xmx512M -cp freenet-cvs-snapshot.jar;freenet-ext.jar freenet.node.Node within a directory that only contains freenet-cvs-snapshot.jar and freenet-ext.jar leads to this: console log: [...] Initializing SSK Datacache (15344 keys) Opened main database for ssk-cache- Opened access times database for ssk-cache- Opening block db index Opened block number database for ssk-cache- Keys in store: db 0 file 0 / max 15344 Error in WrapperListener.start callback. java.lang.NullPointerException java.lang.NullPointerException at freenet.config.SubConfig.getRawOption(SubConfig.java:307) at freenet.node.Node.init(Node.java:1168) at freenet.node.NodeStarter.start(NodeStarter.java:147) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.startInner(WrapperManager.java:2831) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.privilegedStart(WrapperManager.java:1815) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.access$2400(WrapperManager.java:103) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager$5.run(WrapperManager.java:1743) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.start(WrapperManager.java:1740) at freenet.node.NodeStarter.main(NodeStarter.java:256) at freenet.node.Node.main(Node.java:500) Closing database due to shutdown. Closing database due to shutdown. Closing database due to shutdown. Closing database due to shutdown. Closing database due to shutdown. Closing database due to shutdown. Closed database Closed database Closed database Closed database Closed database Closed database Successfully closed all datastores. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] MAIN LOOP TERMINATED!
svn revision 13858 console log: [...] Freenet 0.7 Build #1040 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ FNP port is on 0.0.0.0:FNPDarknetPort TMCI started on 127.0.0.1:2323 Loading persistent request 1 of 4... Loading persistent request 2 of 4... Loading persistent request 3 of 4... Loading persistent request 4 of 4... Starting FCP server on 127.0.0.1:9481. Adding link: /sl/gallery/ = /plugins/plugins.TestGallery/ Adding link: /sl/search/ = /plugins/plugins.Librarian/ Adding link: /darknet/ = /friends/ Starting FProxy on 127.0.0.1: Resuming persistent requests Extra peer data reading and processing completed Node initialization completed. Completed startup: All persistent requests resumed or restarted Written freenet.ini.tmp and moved to freenet.ini FNP port created on 0.0.0.0:OpennetPort Written freenet.ini.tmp and moved to freenet.ini run() exiting Written freenet.ini.tmp and moved to freenet.ini MAIN LOOP TERMINATED! Goodbye. Closing database due to shutdown. Closing database due to shutdown. Closing database due to shutdown. Closing database due to shutdown. Closing database due to shutdown. Closing database due to shutdown. Written freenet.ini.tmp and moved to freenet.ini Shutting down with exit code 0 Closed database Closed database Closed database Closed database Closed database Closed database Successfully closed all datastores. [End] freenet-latest.log: [Begin] Jul 01, 2007 08:19:15:910 (freenet.node.Node, main, ERROR): NOT using wrapper (at least not correctly). Your freenet-ext.jar http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/freenet-ext.jar and/or wrapper.conf https://emu.freenetproject.org/svn/trunk/apps/installer/installclasspath/config/wrapper.conf need to be updated. Jul 01, 2007 08:19:16:207 (freenet.config.FreenetFilePersistentConfig, main, ERROR): Initialization not finished, refusing to write config java.lang.Exception: error at freenet.config.FreenetFilePersistentConfig.store(FreenetFilePersistentConfig.java:51) at freenet.node.NodeClientCore.storeConfig(NodeClientCore.java:1011) at freenet.clients.http.bookmark.BookmarkManager$USKUpdatedCallback.onFoundEdition(BookmarkManager.java:163) at freenet.client.async.USKManager.update(USKManager.java:146) at freenet.client.async.USKFetcher.onSuccess(USKFetcher.java:310) at freenet.client.async.USKFetcher$USKAttempt.onSuccess(USKFetcher.java:125) at freenet.client.async.USKChecker.onSuccess(USKChecker.java:30) at freenet.client.async.ClientRequestScheduler.register(ClientRequestScheduler.java:250) at freenet.node.SendableGet.schedule(SendableGet.java:108) at freenet.client.async.USKFetcher$USKAttempt.schedule(USKFetcher.java:156) at freenet.client.async.USKFetcher.schedule(USKFetcher.java:462) at freenet.client.async.USKManager.subscribe(USKManager.java:187) at freenet.clients.http.bookmark.BookmarkManager.addBookmark(BookmarkManager.java:243) at freenet.clients.http.bookmark.BookmarkManager$BookmarkCallback.set(BookmarkManager.java:131) at freenet.clients.http.bookmark.BookmarkManager.init(BookmarkManager.java:91) at freenet.node.NodeClientCore.start(NodeClientCore.java:432) at freenet.node.Node.start(Node.java:1304) at freenet.node.NodeStarter.start(NodeStarter.java:148) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.startInner(WrapperManager.java:2831) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.privilegedStart(WrapperManager.java:1815) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.access$2400(WrapperManager.java:103) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager$5.run(WrapperManager.java:1743) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.start(WrapperManager.java:1740) at freenet.node.NodeStarter.main(NodeStarter.java:256) at freenet.node.Node.main(Node.java:498) Jul 01, 2007 08:19:16:285 (freenet.config.FreenetFilePersistentConfig, main, ERROR): Initialization not finished, refusing to write config java.lang.Exception: error at freenet.config.FreenetFilePersistentConfig.store(FreenetFilePersistentConfig.java:51) at freenet.node.NodeClientCore.storeConfig(NodeClientCore.java:1011) at freenet.clients.http.bookmark.BookmarkManager$USKUpdatedCallback.onFoundEdition(BookmarkManager.java:163) at freenet.client.async.USKManager.update(USKManager.java:146) at freenet.client.async.USKFetcher.onSuccess(USKFetcher.java:310) at freenet.client.async.USKFetcher$USKAttempt.onSuccess(USKFetcher.java:125) at freenet.client.async.USKChecker.onSuccess(USKChecker.java:30) at freenet.client.async.ClientRequestScheduler.register(ClientRequestScheduler.java:250) at freenet.node.SendableGet.schedule(SendableGet.java:108) at freenet.client.async.USKFetcher$USKAttempt.schedule(USKFetcher.java:156
[freenet-support] Error in WrapperListener.start callback. java.lang.NullPointerException
svn revision 13841 console log: [...] FNP port is on 0.0.0.0:xxx Error in WrapperListener.start callback. java.lang.NullPointerException java.lang.NullPointerException at freenet.node.IPDetectorPluginManager.tryMaybeRun(IPDetectorPluginManager.java:155) at freenet.node.IPDetectorPluginManager.start(IPDetectorPluginManager.java:142) at freenet.node.NodeIPDetector.start(NodeIPDetector.java:395) at freenet.node.Node.start(Node.java:1278) at freenet.node.NodeStarter.start(NodeStarter.java:148) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.startInner(WrapperManager.java:2831) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.privilegedStart(WrapperManager.java:1815) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.access$2400(WrapperManager.java:103) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager$5.run(WrapperManager.java:1743) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.start(WrapperManager.java:1740) at freenet.node.NodeStarter.main(NodeStarter.java:256) at freenet.node.Node.main(Node.java:497) Closing database due to shutdown. Closing database due to shutdown. Closing database due to shutdown. Closing database due to shutdown. Closing database due to shutdown. Closing database due to shutdown. Closed database Closed database Closed database Closed database Closed database Closed database Successfully closed all datastores. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] 'problem loading page' - 'unable to connect'
Have you chosen as you node's port?! Don't do this as it's need for FProxy. Take a random number between 1024 and 65535 and try again If I had to guess, it looks like you may be running as a limited user. The install script is installing a service (which requires admin privileges). Maybe someone else has an idea? On 2/12/07, Suomen Kuningas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just installed freenet 0.7 and frost and I am new to this type of networking. There didn't seem to be any problems with the install. I am following First Timers Handbook in the Wiki and I am having problems here... Go to http://localhost: If you see Freenet FProxy Homepage of ., then your Node is up and operational. If not, then either your node is not running, it is still loading, or something else is happening. See the Help section below. I am getting 'problem loading page' - 'unable to connect' with firefox2. I have a firewall and I have turned it off and quickly tried again, but with no luck. I connect directly to the internet. I went to the help section below but it didn't seem to relate to my problem. Here is the wrapper.log STATUS | wrapper | 2007/02/12 16:54:21 | Freenet 0.7 darknet- removed. ERROR | wrapper | 2007/02/12 16:54:21 | CreateService failed - Access is denied. (0x5) So whats going on here? Thanks for your time. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I may disagree with what you have to say, but I shall defend, to the death, your right to say it. - Voltaire Those who would give up Liberty, to purchase temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. - Ben Franklin ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] looking for reference
Hi Tom, please visit #freenet-refs at irc.freenode.com Don't post refs on the mailing lists as they disturb Hi, I'm looking for references. Can anybody send me the reference? My reference: lastGoodVersion=Fred,0.7,1.0,1010 sig=009c0d0f2971bdece7f47132f42f0fef1b19d4885d3291d612e961779b4292ee53,60fd60bb3080f92f38665203ebd5e0af1f373e1e2d9de3c2a2f0c8a684361e0f identity=S3jZFvotB0t8lIWw6YhvIAKMXllHlp4UxnGl~pjPtxU myName=myFreenet location=0.03687556179156304 testnet=false version=Fred,0.7,1.0,1012 physical.udp=88.198.137.235:59566 [EMAIL PROTECTED],KB7~-5y9Phyi1mBo2zG-AakDziwVVjEKF80aX1wkaEw,AQACAAE/ark ark.number=0 dsaPubKey.y=AIE1utrhe2Wy0Om4hgTWn6lWj-HixEmA1vzy7LeBxC24QIYrI0wQE5YEdHpJP7G0JpvHrHpMG5x~12oii1BND1QizxQq0zYDr6dsQcqqy9jUftCbQ6xCRnV4Z-HL31WZx- DHkpc22dU2NLecPR9UtWGCtjqNrWnLdDgR3yDd9rVjktOfRzc9gnIaYYmd86HbTOlMtXR2eFVf~f5BFQDmUI2tfN78Ix8EbBvzb1OUHXLLGOKKKV48SHqbKrAX6bhXKjM9hFbHrVuAnFq6kb4pnzk1pjggRuyeZnPuQKT4WwCK6Um0fCBH1hUZ5 ~YSDiJDb2cUcUOO97oimsuURIwVtzY dsaGroup.p=AIYIrE9VNhM38qPjirGGT-PJjWZBHY0q-JxSYyDFQfZQeOhrx4SUpdc~SppnWD~UHymT7WyX28eV3YjwkVyc~--H5Tc83hPjx8qQc7kQbrMb~CJy7QBX~YSocKGfioO- pwfRZEDDguYtOJBHPqeenVDErGsfHTCxDDKgL2hYM8Ynj8Kes0OcUzOIVhShFSGbOAjJKjeg82XNXmG1hhdh2tnv8M4jJQ9ViEj425Mrh6O9jXovfPmcdYIr3C~3waHXjQvPgUiK4N5Saf~FOri48fK-PmwFZFc-YSgI9o2-70nVybSnBXlM96QkzU6x4CYFUuZ7- B~je0ofeLdX7xhehuk dsaGroup.g=UaRatnDByf0QvTlaaAXTMzn1Z15LDTXe-J~gOqXCv0zpz83CVngSkb--bVRuZ9R65OFg~ATKcuw8VJJwn1~A9p5jRt2NPj2EM7bu72O85- mFdBhcav8WHJtTbXb4cxNzZaQkbPQUv~gEnuEeMTc80KZVjilQ7wlTIM6GIY~ZJVHMKSIkEU87YBRtIt1R~BJcnaDAKBJv~oXv1PS-6iwQRFMynMEmipfpqDXBTkqaQ8ahiGWA41rY8d4jDhrzIgjvkzfxkkcCpFFOldwW8w8MEecUoRLuhKnY1sm8nnTjNlYLtc1Okeq- ba0mvwygSAf4wxovwY6n1Fuqt8yZe1PDVg dsaGroup.q=ALFDNoq81R9Y1kQNVBc5kzmk0VvvCWosXY5t9E9S1tN5 End Thanks Tom ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at localhost:8888.
what do you mean with references? references is a reserved word for a text passage describing a a node identity, do you mean that or just a http://localhost:/[EMAIL PROTECTED] I added 13 peers where 2 are connected and the rest are disconnected, one of them has Version 1007 did you start your node at all? how did you add them? via the web-frontend? or via TCMI? It started alone (isn't it a service?) depends on operating system and whether you run it manually or as a service, therefore i asked is port maybe used by a different program? How can I verify that? 0) read the log for errors, usually there should be something if the node can't start. if you don't find anything: 1) shut down the node, be sure it isn't running 2.1) open a cmd console 2.2) typenetstat -a -n 2.3) search for a line with either TCP127.0.0.1: 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING or TCP127.0.0.1:9481 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING 2.4) if one of these lines exists and your node is not running, then this port is used by a different program and therefore the node can't start 3) then you can either: 3a) stop or remove the other program 3b) change the ports of the other program 3c) change the ports of the freenet node 4) also you can try to start the node nevertheless and perform step 2 to see if the ports are now taken by the node. the node uses both ports, so if they are both taken (after a node start without errors (see the log)), freenet should be running HTH ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at localhost:8888.
be more verbose try both localhost: and 127.0.0.1: as localhost is most of the case != 127.0.0.1 (do you read me, Worst-developer? ;) which version of freenet so you use - 0.5 or 0.7? what exact build? what do you mean with references? references is a reserved word for a text passage describing a a node identity, do you mean that or just a http://localhost:/[EMAIL PROTECTED] did you start your node at all? is port maybe used by a different program? HTH After I got some references included I get most of the time: Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at localhost:. How can I fix that? bye Ronald Wiplinger ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Node doesn't start anymore... java.lang.NoSuchFieldError: config
...and once again one of the recent change broke my node... *sigh* build 11507 You realize you are running unstable(testing) builds of alpha software, right? If you aren't doing it to test the software, I suggest you stick to the stable releases. If you are reporting a bug, could you choose a nicer tone please? Thanks :) wow, juiceman. i meant no offense or harm to anyone! i know it's alpha as i've been around since version 0.3, ran 0.7 builds 300 and participated in the 0.7 testnet. what i mention here is that in the last few weeks there have been commits to HEAD that effectively stop a node from functioning. of course this can happen, but i'd like to see more testing before committing, and if the tests ran through okay (which i assume they did) a relatively quick response to the developers indicating a problem (my mail). as i assume this is a configuration or settings problem at my side, i haven't submitted a bug to emu. if it turns out to be one, i'll add one there. so, again, no offense meant! sorry, you thought so :( merry christmas :) ERsT0r! :P ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] HELP!!!!!
basically it's working if http://127.0.0.1:/darknet/ shows some peers with a green CONNECTED. for starters see here: http://wiki.freenetproject.org/FreenetConnections (and the other wiki pages) i just downloaded the freenet softwareim not sure if its working correctly , i read the set up info BUT its VERY confusing, a less complicated explanation on how to make the software run would be greatly appreciated : _ Visit MSN Holiday Challenge for your chance to win up to $50,000 in Holiday cash from MSN today! http://www.msnholidaychallenge.com/index.aspx?ocid=taglinelocale=en-us ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] ant build problems
hi guys, recenty i've got heavy problems with the ant dist build target. for some odd reason it now wants to compile the test units that a) won't compile here at all, so i had to delete the test directory! b) dist won't build because it depends on junit which isn't installed here so i had to hack here, too who the hell fscked the buildfile!!!? ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 build 1001
Freenet 0.7 build 1001 is now available. Please upgrade. Tell me if the auto-update doesn't work for you. 1000 and 1001 consist mostly of bugfixes, mostly relating to recent problems with high bandwidth usage (above the specified limit) and low payload (efficiency) percentage. If you are currently seeing these problems please try build 1001, and let us know how you get on. Thanks. Suddenly ALL my peers are BACKED OFF and my node is not able to detect it's IP address anymore (give a hint...) What's wrong? Is this just me? (My peer versions range from 998 to 1001) ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 build 1001
Freenet 0.7 build 1001 is now available. Please upgrade. Tell me if the auto-update doesn't work for you. 1000 and 1001 consist mostly of bugfixes, mostly relating to recent problems with high bandwidth usage (above the specified limit) and low payload (efficiency) percentage. If you are currently seeing these problems please try build 1001, and let us know how you get on. Thanks. =20 Suddenly ALL my peers are BACKED OFF and my node is not able to detect it= 's IP address anymore (give a hint...) What's wrong? Is this just me? Strange. Two separate problems. The first I have no idea, but try 1002. 1002 seems to have helped. They're CONNECTED once more. IP still isn't detected. I'm natted, so the other nodes tell me my IP within their packets? As for the second, is the jSTUN plugin still loaded? If not, I suggest you load it manually (instructions on the plugins page on the wiki). No plugins loaded jSTUN never worked for me, either. It had an incompatible protocol. (My peer versions range from 998 to 1001) --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Digital signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFbH8zA9rUluQ9pFARArStAJ9MzQV5/0TApYcw31PkUmoKekKT7gCfVa81 38U3a8BQpanSBVft8axoMFk= =6gVb -END PGP SIGNATURE- --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx-- --===1455854953== Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --===1455854953==-- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 build 1001
On Tue, Nov 28, 2006 at 07:45:53PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Freenet 0.7 build 1001 is now available. Please upgrade. Tell me if t= he auto-update doesn't work for you. 1000 and 1001 consist mostly of bugfixes, mostly relating to recent problems with high bandwidth usage (above the specified limit) and low payload (efficiency) percentage. = If you are currently seeing these problems please try build 1001, and let us know how you get on. Thanks. =3D20 Suddenly ALL my peers are BACKED OFF and my node is not able to detect= it=3D 's IP address anymore (give a hint...) What's wrong? Is this just me? =20 Strange. Two separate problems. The first I have no idea, but try 1002. =20 1002 seems to have helped. They're CONNECTED once more. IP still isn't detected. I'm natted, so the other nodes tell me my IP wit= hin their packets? They should do. Does your noderef include your IP address? I have, nevertheless I get this Unknown external address on the start page =20 As for the second, is the jSTUN plugin still loaded? If not, I suggest you load it manually (instructions on the plugins page on the wiki). =20 No plugins loaded =20 jSTUN never worked for me, either. It had an incompatible protocol. Error message? ISP problems? Oups. I mixed it with SNMP :/ Never tried jSTUN ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] build 10982 NPE hangs node on startup
[...] Written freenet.ini.tmp and moved to freenet.ini Extra peer data reading and processing completed Node initialization completed. Exception in thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] java.lang.NullPointerException at freenet.node.updater.NodeUpdaterManager.fetchingNewMainJar(NodeUpdaterManager.java:679) at freenet.node.useralerts.UpdatedVersionAvailableUserAlert.isValid(UpdatedVersionAvailableUserAlert.java:176) at freenet.node.useralerts.UserAlertManager.createAlerts(UserAlertManager.java:58) at freenet.clients.http.WelcomeToadlet.handleGet(WelcomeToadlet.java:526) at freenet.clients.http.ToadletContextImpl.handle(ToadletContextImpl.java:282) at freenet.clients.http.SimpleToadletServer$SocketHandler.run(SimpleToadletServer.java:394) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619) after that nothing more happened, fproxy also didn't show up ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] build 10536 - ERROR + FEC: NPE causing ExceptionInInitializerError
from console: [...] Node initialization completed. Written freenet.ini.tmp and moved to freenet.ini Failed to load native FEC: java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError at freenet.client.StandardOnionFECCodec.init(StandardOnionFECCodec.java:137) at freenet.client.StandardOnionFECCodec.getInstance(StandardOnionFECCodec.java:114) at freenet.client.FECCodec.getCodec(FECCodec.java:25) at freenet.client.async.SplitFileFetcherSegment$Decoder.run(SplitFileFetcherSegment.java:199) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619) Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException at com.onionnetworks.util.NativeDeployer.findLibraries(NativeDeployer.java:140) at com.onionnetworks.util.NativeDeployer.getLibraryPath(NativeDeployer.java:66) at com.onionnetworks.fec.Native8Code.clinit(Unknown Source) ... 5 more from log: Sep 28, 2006 13:32:08:087 (freenet.config.FreenetFilePersistentConfig, main, ERROR): Initialization not finished, refusing to write config java.lang.Exception: error at freenet.config.FreenetFilePersistentConfig.store(FreenetFilePersistentConfig.java:47) at freenet.node.NodeClientCore.storeConfig(NodeClientCore.java:741) at freenet.clients.http.BookmarkManager$USKUpdatedCallback.onFoundEdition(BookmarkManager.java:77) at freenet.client.async.USKManager.update(USKManager.java:152) at freenet.client.async.USKFetcher.onSuccess(USKFetcher.java:308) at freenet.client.async.USKFetcher$USKAttempt.onSuccess(USKFetcher.java:122) at freenet.client.async.USKChecker.onSuccess(USKChecker.java:26) at freenet.client.async.ClientRequestScheduler.register(ClientRequestScheduler.java:173) at freenet.client.async.BaseSingleFileFetcher.schedule(BaseSingleFileFetcher.java:76) at freenet.client.async.USKFetcher$USKAttempt.schedule(USKFetcher.java:151) at freenet.client.async.USKFetcher.schedule(USKFetcher.java:440) at freenet.client.async.USKManager.subscribe(USKManager.java:191) at freenet.clients.http.BookmarkManager.addBookmark(BookmarkManager.java:138) at freenet.clients.http.BookmarkManager.init(BookmarkManager.java:90) at freenet.node.NodeClientCore.start(NodeClientCore.java:212) at freenet.node.Node.start(Node.java:1408) at freenet.node.NodeStarter.start(NodeStarter.java:151) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.startInner(WrapperManager.java:3125) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.privilegedStart(WrapperManager.java:2109) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.access$2400(WrapperManager.java:416) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager$5.run(WrapperManager.java:2044) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.start(WrapperManager.java:2041) at freenet.node.NodeStarter.main(NodeStarter.java:224) at freenet.node.Node.main(Node.java:654) Sep 28, 2006 13:33:04:147 (freenet.client.StandardOnionFECCodec, Decoder for [EMAIL PROTECTED], ERROR): Failed to load native FEC: java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError at freenet.client.StandardOnionFECCodec.init(StandardOnionFECCodec.java:137) at freenet.client.StandardOnionFECCodec.getInstance(StandardOnionFECCodec.java:114) at freenet.client.FECCodec.getCodec(FECCodec.java:25) at freenet.client.async.SplitFileFetcherSegment$Decoder.run(SplitFileFetcherSegment.java:199) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619) Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException at com.onionnetworks.util.NativeDeployer.findLibraries(NativeDeployer.java:140) at com.onionnetworks.util.NativeDeployer.getLibraryPath(NativeDeployer.java:66) at com.onionnetworks.fec.Native8Code.clinit(Unknown Source) ... 5 more ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 *PLONK*
Don't feed the troll Freenet 0.7 is nothing more than yet another in a series of Freenet failures-in-waiting until it proves itself, IMHO, by emerging out of alpha with open-net. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Freenet gets stuck on shutdown
Current svn-snapshot [--- node startup ---] Creating ARKFetchManager Creating PeerManager Read X peers from .\peers-X Initializing CHK Datastore (X keys) Opening block db index Keys in store: 1587 / 49101 (db 1587 file 1587) Initializing CHK Datacache (59790:12276 keys) Opening block db index Keys in store: 33611 / 59790 (db 33611 file 33611) Initializing pubKey Datastore Opening block db index Keys in store: 126 / 49101 (db 126 file 126) Initializing pubKey Datacache (12276 keys) Opening block db index Keys in store: 5009 / 12276 (db 5009 file 5009) Initializing SSK Datastore Opening block db index Keys in store: 127 / 49101 (db 127 file 127) Initializing SSK Datacache (61250:12276 keys) [--- pressed CTRL+C ---] Closing database due to shutdown. Closing database due to shutdown. Closing database due to shutdown. Closing database due to shutdown. Closing database due to shutdown. Opening block db index Keys in store: 5627 / 61250 (db 5627 file 5627) Could not open datastore: java.lang.IllegalStateException: Shutdown in progress java.lang.IllegalStateException: Shutdown in progress at java.lang.ApplicationShutdownHooks.add(ApplicationShutdownHooks.java:39) at java.lang.Runtime.addShutdownHook(Runtime.java:192) at freenet.store.BerkeleyDBFreenetStore.init(BerkeleyDBFreenetStore.java:234) at freenet.node.Node.init(Node.java:1204) at freenet.node.NodeStarter.start(NodeStarter.java:150) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.startInner(WrapperManager.java:3125) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.privilegedStart(WrapperManager.java:2109) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.access$2400(WrapperManager.java:416) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager$5.run(WrapperManager.java:2044) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.start(WrapperManager.java:2041) at freenet.node.NodeStarter.main(NodeStarter.java:224) at freenet.node.Node.main(Node.java:654) Failed to load node: Could not open datastore: java.lang.IllegalStateException: Shutdown in progress (3) freenet.node.Node$NodeInitException: Could not open datastore: java.lang.IllegalStateException: Shutdown in progress (3) at freenet.node.Node.init(Node.java:1221) at freenet.node.NodeStarter.start(NodeStarter.java:150) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.startInner(WrapperManager.java:3125) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.privilegedStart(WrapperManager.java:2109) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.access$2400(WrapperManager.java:416) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager$5.run(WrapperManager.java:2044) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at org.tanukisoftware.wrapper.WrapperManager.start(WrapperManager.java:2041) at freenet.node.NodeStarter.main(NodeStarter.java:224) at freenet.node.Node.main(Node.java:654) Closed database Closed database Closed database Closed database Closed database [--- and here it stops and stays without exiting ---] ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7
0) be sure you have Java version 1.5 or 1.6 (1.4 will/should work too) - type java -version in a console and watch the output 1) download these two files into a separate directory you've created forehand: - http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/freenet-r10260-snapshot.jar - http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/freenet-ext.jar 2) change to the directory they're in 3) rename freenet-r10260-snapshot.jar to freenet.jar 4) run java -cp freenet.jar;freenet-ext.jar;%CLASSPATH%;. freenet.node.Node 5) report problems :) On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:37:56 -0400, Juiceman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip For those of you have never even tried to use 0.7 but are complaining about it: 1. You shouldn't argue until you at least try it. 2. It performs quite well IMO compared to 0.5 3. Almost every app from 0.5 works with 0.7 now (or there is an equivalent program available) 4. It is a complete re-write of almost all the code and uses a dramatically different data format so backwards compatibility is not possible. Move forward. :) To convince me you need not try for ready am I to migrate to 0.7 Like others recently posting however I am Windows 98 user not able to change OS. Tried have I various install methods to use. So far Failed have they all. Seeking guidance am I, to complete the migration with success. From others have I seen postings in their quest similar, yet ignored are they all. For help thank I you all. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7
Choose: 1) 0.5: - the branch stable is in effect the branch unstable. both share the same code, eventhough the 'stable' is called 0.5 and the unstable "pre 0.6" or something like that - unstable (eventhough the branch is called 'stable'): there are still major problems with the routing algorithm IIRC even in the latest CVS - unsupported and utterly unmaintained for NOW SEVERAL YEARS or 2) 0.7: - no unstable branch because the code has to be settled and heavy work is going on, therefore a distinction between stable and unstable is not helpful at this time as both branches would be modified by a new release - unstable - but in the sense of "unfinished", NOT "doesn't work". 0.5 is more "doesn't work" than 0.7 currently is and will ever be - actively supported and maintained. New releases are nearly every other day. Bugfixes and improvements galore (that doesn't mean that 0.5 is bug free - all the known or unknown bugs simply aren't fixed anymore and nobody cares (for a good reason)) make your choice. I already have and won't regret droppiong 0.5 which is, or better was, a horrible monster of software. 0.5 started up in a minute or so, 0.7 in fully operational in less than 5 seconds! (YMMV) --Original Message Text--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:34:25 -0400 0.7 isn't a stable version either. It's a not nearly completed, far from functional version. On 8/23/06, Ortwin Regel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 0.5 isn't a stable version. It's an outdated version that many people happen to use. Of course you can keep using 0.5 and slowly watch it die, or even try to keep it alive. But the freenet team wants you to populate 0.7 so they can improve it. It's unfortunate that it scares away a few users too lazy to run 0.7 but they will come back once it's better and stable. On 8/22/06, an ominous cow herd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think that the 0.5 network needs active coding. It's fine the way it is. It should be stated that there will be no patches or bug fixes for the 0.5 network, but putting it in small print and calling it "unsupported" while directing new users to the alpha 0.7 network just doesn't make sense. The 0.5 network should be called the stable version and 0.7 should be the unstable version, just like it was done in the past. If users ask questions, they should be directed to the wiki. Why the big push to get new users on the 0.7 network while it's still in the alpha stage? On Monday 21 August 2006 14:35, Matthew Toseland wrote: We don't have a big enough team to actively support both. On Sun, Aug 20, 2006 at 11:31:38PM -0700, an ominous cow herd wrote: I can empathize. Freenet is is one of the first projects that I've seen take a working application and push it aside, while directing new users to an alpha version. The way it would normally be done is listing Freenet 0.5 as the stable version instead of the "unsupported" version, and 0.7 as the alpha version still under development. New users would opt for the stable version. Having new users directed to an alpha version while the stable version is fully functioning is quite strange. On Saturday 19 August 2006 08:11, - wrote: Hi, I think you're making a mistake in forcing new people into the beta test freenet 0.7 instead of the established 0.5. You're forgetting how _highly_ someone new has to be motivated to try freenet, even version 0.5 which works and is not a beta test. Let's think about what would motivate someone... I remember when I found freenet, I installed it spent hours reading over the technical jargon. It was incredible slow. I removed it thinking this is a pile of crap that does not work. Only a few months later, did I again bother to go through this complicated process and after waiting for three days with it on, it finally started working. The reason I spent many hours and went back after throwing it out once, was because I was _highly motivated_ for the anonymity and content. Here's the problem: If 0.7 doesn't offer the anonymity and the content, plus it's an unstable beta test, why would anyone new bother to join the community? Do you think people are nice enough to offer their time and computers to beta test some random highly technical peer to peer application that completely hogs your computer's resources? The problem with freenet (even 0.5) is, it just isn't user friendly. A person who just stumbles on freenet does not know if it's actually going to work. After seeing how slow it is, most people, like myself will just get rid of it, not bothering to learn all the
Re: [freenet-support] Logs
try setting the log level from NORMAL to ERROR. also... why are your logs this big? o_O On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 11:09:09 +0200, Stefan Grönberg wrote: is there any way to limit the log size so i dont keep getting 1 gig logs all the time? ive set max 100k lines in ram, 10M in ram and 50M Maximum disk space used by old logs still getting several hunderes meg sized logs ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Logs
try to avoid setting the log level to DEBUG or MINOR.. that's insane - no wonder your logs are that big :D then again i suppose "Maximum disk space used by old logs" should work nevetheless if i understand it's purpose correctly... --Original Message Text--- From: Stefan Grönberg Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 11:39:39 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: try setting the log level from NORMAL to ERROR. its at minor atm since i got tons of problems daily with my node. also... why are your logs this big? o_O same as above id guess, i get perhaps 5-15gig logs a day or something On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 11:09:09 +0200, Stefan Grönberg wrote: is there any way to limit the log size so i dont keep getting 1 gig logs all the time? ive set max 100k lines in ram, 10M in ram and 50M Maximum disk space used by old logs still getting several hunderes meg sized logs ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Caught a FetchException
Current svn snapshot: Aug 23, 2006 17:08:08:818 (freenet.client.async.SplitFileFetcherSegment, FCP input handler for /127.0.0.1:2580, ERROR): Failing with FetchException:Cancelled:null:-1:null:false:null:null but already started decode FetchException:Cancelled:null:-1:null:false:null:null at freenet.client.async.SplitFileFetcherSegment.cancel(SplitFileFetcherSegment.java:387) at freenet.client.async.SplitFileFetcher.cancel(SplitFileFetcher.java:252) at freenet.client.async.ClientGetter.cancel(ClientGetter.java:135) at freenet.node.fcp.ClientRequest.cancel(ClientRequest.java:179) at freenet.node.fcp.FCPClient.removeByIdentifier(FCPClient.java:162) at freenet.node.fcp.RemovePersistentRequest.run(RemovePersistentRequest.java:37) at freenet.node.fcp.FCPConnectionInputHandler.realRun(FCPConnectionInputHandler.java:84) at freenet.node.fcp.FCPConnectionInputHandler.run(FCPConnectionInputHandler.java:26) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619) ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] 2 crashes during night
Which JVM? Which OS? freenet can do ***nothing*** about crashing and buggy Java Environments. Get the current release and check your libraries. 2 crashes during night ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] 2 crashes during night
SUN current release 1.5.0_08 available at http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp SUN early access 1.6 beta 2 available at http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/ea.jsp I'm running: java version "1.6.0-beta2" Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-beta2-b85) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.6.0-beta2-b85, mixed mode, sharing) although s/o reported problems with this Java release, I've got a steady node. If that does not help, try to get a JRE from other vendors like IBM, etc. Check your machine's RAM, reboot windows often and hope your system libraries are okay. Like I said - it's not problem of freenet. It's just triggering a fault in the JRE or your system. There's nothing freenet can do, although there are already some workarounds in use to help crippled and buggy JREs/libs(NTPL) it's understandably not the core activity of development. HTH --Original Message Text--- From: Stefan Grönberg Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 10:40:31 +0200 java version "1.5.0_07" Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_07-b03) Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_07-b03, mixed mode, sharing) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which JVM? Which OS? freenet can do ***nothing*** about crashing and buggy Java Environments. Get the current release and check your libraries. 2 crashes during night ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Some NPEs on node shutdown
As on toad's request these go here: This appened on node (svn build 10227) shutdown. Exception in thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] java.lang.NullPointerException at java.io.DeleteOnExitHook.add(DeleteOnExitHook.java:33) at java.io.File.deleteOnExit(File.java:936) at freenet.support.io.FileBucket.init(FileBucket.java:49) at freenet.support.io.TempFileBucket.init(TempFileBucket.java:41) at freenet.support.io.TempBucketFactory.makeBucket(TempBucketFactory.java:71) at freenet.support.io.TempBucketFactory.makeBucket(TempBucketFactory.java:47) at freenet.support.io.PaddedEphemerallyEncryptedBucketFactory.makeBucket(PaddedEphemerallyEncryptedBucketFactory.java:24) at freenet.clients.http.StaticToadlet.handleGet(StaticToadlet.java:49) at freenet.clients.http.ToadletContextImpl.handle(ToadletContextImpl.java:277) at freenet.clients.http.SimpleToadletServer$SocketHandler.run(SimpleToadletServer.java:366) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619) Exception in thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exception in thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] java.lang.NullPointerException at java.io.DeleteOnExitHook.add(DeleteOnExitHook.java:33) at java.io.File.deleteOnExit(File.java:936) at freenet.support.io.FileBucket.init(FileBucket.java:49) at freenet.support.io.TempFileBucket.init(TempFileBucket.java:41) at freenet.support.io.TempBucketFactory.makeBucket(TempBucketFactory.java:71) at freenet.support.io.TempBucketFactory.makeBucket(TempBucketFactory.java:47) at freenet.support.io.PaddedEphemerallyEncryptedBucketFactory.makeBucket(PaddedEphemerallyEncryptedBucketFactory.java:24) at freenet.clients.http.StaticToadlet.handleGet(StaticToadlet.java:49) at freenet.clients.http.ToadletContextImpl.handle(ToadletContextImpl.java:277) at freenet.clients.http.SimpleToadletServer$SocketHandler.run(SimpleToadletServer.java:366) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619) java.lang.NullPointerException at java.io.DeleteOnExitHook.add(DeleteOnExitHook.java:33) at java.io.File.deleteOnExit(File.java:936) at freenet.support.io.FileBucket.init(FileBucket.java:49) at freenet.support.io.TempFileBucket.init(TempFileBucket.java:41) at freenet.support.io.TempBucketFactory.makeBucket(TempBucketFactory.java:71) at freenet.support.io.TempBucketFactory.makeBucket(TempBucketFactory.java:47) at freenet.support.io.PaddedEphemerallyEncryptedBucketFactory.makeBucket(PaddedEphemerallyEncryptedBucketFactory.java:24) at freenet.clients.http.StaticToadlet.handleGet(StaticToadlet.java:49) at freenet.clients.http.ToadletContextImpl.handle(ToadletContextImpl.java:277) at freenet.clients.http.SimpleToadletServer$SocketHandler.run(SimpleToadletServer.java:366) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619) Exception in thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] java.lang.NullPointerException at java.io.DeleteOnExitHook.add(DeleteOnExitHook.java:33) at java.io.File.deleteOnExit(File.java:936) at freenet.support.io.FileBucket.init(FileBucket.java:49) at freenet.support.io.TempFileBucket.init(TempFileBucket.java:41) at freenet.support.io.TempBucketFactory.makeBucket(TempBucketFactory.java:71) at freenet.support.io.TempBucketFactory.makeBucket(TempBucketFactory.java:47) at freenet.support.io.PaddedEphemerallyEncryptedBucketFactory.makeBucket(PaddedEphemerallyEncryptedBucketFactory.java:24) at freenet.clients.http.StaticToadlet.handleGet(StaticToadlet.java:49) at freenet.clients.http.ToadletContextImpl.handle(ToadletContextImpl.java:277) at freenet.clients.http.SimpleToadletServer$SocketHandler.run(SimpleToadletServer.java:366) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619) Exception in thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] java.lang.NullPointerException at java.io.DeleteOnExitHook.add(DeleteOnExitHook.java:33) at java.io.File.deleteOnExit(File.java:936) at freenet.support.io.FileBucket.init(FileBucket.java:49) at freenet.support.io.TempFileBucket.init(TempFileBucket.java:41) at freenet.support.io.TempBucketFactory.makeBucket(TempBucketFactory.java:71) at freenet.support.io.TempBucketFactory.makeBucket(TempBucketFactory.java:47) at freenet.support.io.PaddedEphemerallyEncryptedBucketFactory.makeBucket(PaddedEphemerallyEncryptedBucketFactory.java:24) at freenet.clients.http.StaticToadlet.handleGet(StaticToadlet.java:49) at freenet.clients.http.ToadletContextImpl.handle(ToadletContextImpl.java:277) at freenet.clients.http.SimpleToadletServer$SocketHandler.run(SimpleToadletServer.java:366) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619) Exception in thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] Exception in thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] java.lang.NullPointerException at java.io.DeleteOnExitHook.add
Re: [freenet-support] shutdown node - bsod.
real great, i shut down the node using the button on webby, my computer BSOD thanks to that I am using alpha software and my computer exploded and my house burnt down and and and and and... We all know that you are mad about that BSOD... but (1) it should be a calculated risk that things could go wrong when you are using software like that and (2) it doesn't help to complain about things like that without more information (os, cpu, memmory, log-files, et cetera). ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] NPE while updating
tested with build 924 now it doesn't throw an npe anymore: Found new update edition 925 Starting the update process: found the update (925), now fetching it. Starting the update process: found the update (925), now fetching it. Starting the update process: found the update (925), now fetching it. Found 925 Searching for revocation key Revocation counter: 0 Update in progress Cannot update because not running under wrapper 1) but it's showing three times the starting the update process line, which looks strange 2) but on the fproxy homepage the warning A new stable version of Freenet is available does not disappear anymore 3) there's no feedback to the user that the node won't update because there's no wrapper. perhaps the whole update mechanism should not be shown to the user but a you could have updated if you had run freenet within the wrapper Build 9882 may fix this. Please try it. On Thu, Aug 03, 2006 at 06:55:52PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Found 921 Searching for revocation key Revocation counter: 0 Update in progress Exception : java.lang.NullPointerException java.lang.NullPointerException at freenet.node.updater.NodeUpdater.innerUpdate(NodeUpdater.java:= 219) at freenet.node.updater.NodeUpdater.Update(NodeUpdater.java:169) at freenet.clients.http.WelcomeToadlet.handlePost(WelcomeToadlet.= java:80) at freenet.clients.http.ToadletContextImpl.handle(ToadletContextI= mpl.java:295) at freenet.clients.http.SimpleToadletServer$SocketHandler.run(Sim= pleToadletServer.java:342) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619) --=20 Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] NPE while updating
tested with build 924 now it doesn't throw an npe anymore: Found new update edition 925 Starting the update process: found the update (925), now fetching it. Starting the update process: found the update (925), now fetching it. Starting the update process: found the update (925), now fetching it. Found 925 Searching for revocation key Revocation counter: 0 Update in progress Cannot update because not running under wrapper 1) but it's showing three times the starting the update process line, which looks strange 2) but on the fproxy homepage the warning A new stable version of Freenet is available does not disappear anymore 3) there's no feedback to the user that the node won't update because there's no wrapper. perhaps the whole update mechanism should not be shown to the user but a you could have updated if you had run freenet within the wrapper 4) the node does not check for further new versions: Freenet 0.7 Build #924 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ Freenet-ext Build #5 r9584 A newer version is available! (Build #927) but it's still stuck with the update to #925 ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] NPE while updating
1) but it's showing three times the starting the update process line, which looks strange 2) but on the fproxy homepage the warning A new stable version of Freenet is available does not disappear anymore 3) there's no feedback to the user that the node won't update because there's no wrapper. perhaps the whole update mechanism should not be shown to the user but a you could have updated if you had run freenet within the wrapper 4) the node does not check for further new versions: Freenet 0.7 Build #924 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ Freenet-ext Build #5 r9584 A newer version is available! (Build #927) but it's still stuck with the update to #925 5) It seems that your node isn't running the latest version of the software. Updating to 925 is advised. Your node is currently doing a final check to verify the security of the update. (4/3) -- huh? step 4 of 3? sorry for the many posts but the problems keep on coming ;) ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] NPE while updating
Found 921 Searching for revocation key Revocation counter: 0 Update in progress Exception : java.lang.NullPointerException java.lang.NullPointerException at freenet.node.updater.NodeUpdater.innerUpdate(NodeUpdater.java:219) at freenet.node.updater.NodeUpdater.Update(NodeUpdater.java:169) at freenet.clients.http.WelcomeToadlet.handlePost(WelcomeToadlet.java:80) at freenet.clients.http.ToadletContextImpl.handle(ToadletContextImpl.java:295) at freenet.clients.http.SimpleToadletServer$SocketHandler.run(SimpleToadletServer.java:342) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:619) ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] The auto-update system was broken around build 851
Hi, ./update.sh made my node unusable. I tried to fix the problem: ./run.sh stop rm freenet-cvs-snapshot.jar rm freenet-cvs-snapshot.jar.sha1 rm freenet-ext.jar rm freenet-ext.jar.sha1 wget http://.../freenet-cvs-snapshot.jar wget http://.../freenet-cvs-snapshot.jar.sha1 wget http://.../freenet-ext.jar wget http://.../freenet-ext.jar.sha1 ./run.sh start I hope the log-file gives information to solve this problem. -- wrapper.log STATUS | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:13 | -- Wrapper Started as Daemon STATUS | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:13 | Launching a JVM... INFO | jvm 1| 2006/07/04 17:47:14 | Exception in thread main java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: freenet/node/NodeStarter ERROR | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:14 | JVM exited while loading the application. STATUS | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:18 | Reloading Wrapper configuration... STATUS | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:18 | Launching a JVM... INFO | jvm 2| 2006/07/04 17:47:18 | Exception in thread main java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: freenet/node/NodeStarter ERROR | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:18 | JVM exited while loading the application. STATUS | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:23 | Reloading Wrapper configuration... STATUS | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:23 | Launching a JVM... INFO | jvm 3| 2006/07/04 17:47:23 | Exception in thread main java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: freenet/node/NodeStarter ERROR | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:23 | JVM exited while loading the application. STATUS | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:28 | Reloading Wrapper configuration... STATUS | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:28 | Launching a JVM... INFO | jvm 4| 2006/07/04 17:47:28 | Exception in thread main java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: freenet/node/NodeStarter ERROR | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:28 | JVM exited while loading the application. STATUS | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:33 | Reloading Wrapper configuration... STATUS | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:33 | Launching a JVM... INFO | jvm 5| 2006/07/04 17:47:33 | Exception in thread main INFO | jvm 5| 2006/07/04 17:47:33 | java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: freenet/node/NodeStarter ERROR | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:33 | JVM exited while loading the application. FATAL | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:33 | There were 5 failed launches in a row, each lasting less than 300 seconds. Giving up. FATAL | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:33 | There may be a configuration problem: please check the logs. STATUS | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:33 | -- Wrapper Stopped Bouke On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 11:48 +0200, Florent Daignière (NextGen$) wrote: Hi, Just to keep people posted: We made a change in the 85X series wich might prevent your node from starting. The solution is to update manually both your freenet-ext.jar and freenet-cvs-snapthot.jar. You can reach us on irc or on support@freenetproject.org if needed. NextGen$ PS: the update url is : The update script should work. http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/freenet-cvs-snapshot.jar http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/freenet-ext.jar ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] The auto-update system was broken around build 851
Hi, My node is up again... but it gives info about the following: INFO | jvm 1| 2006/07/04 20:57:27 | Does not verify (CHK block 2543) INFO | jvm 1| 2006/07/04 20:57:43 | Does not verify (CHK block 3615) What could that be? Greetings :) On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 19:01 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, ./update.sh made my node unusable. I tried to fix the problem: ./run.sh stop rm freenet-cvs-snapshot.jar rm freenet-cvs-snapshot.jar.sha1 rm freenet-ext.jar rm freenet-ext.jar.sha1 wget http://.../freenet-cvs-snapshot.jar wget http://.../freenet-cvs-snapshot.jar.sha1 wget http://.../freenet-ext.jar wget http://.../freenet-ext.jar.sha1 ./run.sh start I hope the log-file gives information to solve this problem. -- wrapper.log STATUS | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:13 | -- Wrapper Started as Daemon STATUS | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:13 | Launching a JVM... INFO | jvm 1| 2006/07/04 17:47:14 | Exception in thread main java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: freenet/node/NodeStarter ERROR | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:14 | JVM exited while loading the application. STATUS | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:18 | Reloading Wrapper configuration... STATUS | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:18 | Launching a JVM... INFO | jvm 2| 2006/07/04 17:47:18 | Exception in thread main java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: freenet/node/NodeStarter ERROR | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:18 | JVM exited while loading the application. STATUS | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:23 | Reloading Wrapper configuration... STATUS | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:23 | Launching a JVM... INFO | jvm 3| 2006/07/04 17:47:23 | Exception in thread main java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: freenet/node/NodeStarter ERROR | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:23 | JVM exited while loading the application. STATUS | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:28 | Reloading Wrapper configuration... STATUS | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:28 | Launching a JVM... INFO | jvm 4| 2006/07/04 17:47:28 | Exception in thread main java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: freenet/node/NodeStarter ERROR | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:28 | JVM exited while loading the application. STATUS | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:33 | Reloading Wrapper configuration... STATUS | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:33 | Launching a JVM... INFO | jvm 5| 2006/07/04 17:47:33 | Exception in thread main INFO | jvm 5| 2006/07/04 17:47:33 | java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: freenet/node/NodeStarter ERROR | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:33 | JVM exited while loading the application. FATAL | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:33 | There were 5 failed launches in a row, each lasting less than 300 seconds. Giving up. FATAL | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:33 | There may be a configuration problem: please check the logs. STATUS | wrapper | 2006/07/04 17:47:33 | -- Wrapper Stopped Bouke On Tue, 2006-07-04 at 11:48 +0200, Florent Daignière (NextGen$) wrote: Hi, Just to keep people posted: We made a change in the 85X series wich might prevent your node from starting. The solution is to update manually both your freenet-ext.jar and freenet-cvs-snapthot.jar. You can reach us on irc or on support@freenetproject.org if needed. NextGen$ PS: the update url is : The update script should work. http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/freenet-cvs-snapshot.jar http://downloads.freenetproject.org/alpha/freenet-ext.jar ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 Build #794 r9119 100% CPU Utilization
I updated to Freenet 0.7 Build #794 r9119. CPU is now at 100% utilization. I updated to Freenet 0.7 Build #799 r9137 and CPU utilization is good now. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] dedicated linux server
So, I've got an old box sitting here - 666 Celeron / 256M / 60G I'd like to put linux on it run it as a stand alone freenet box. Any suggestions on what flavor of linux would be easiest to set up freenet on?(remember it's ONLY for freenet) The flavor is not that important. Just go for an easy to install distro. Please keep in mind that you also have to install Java Runtime Environment: http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp Any other things I'm going to need to set up / know? Is there a readable faq/manual somewhere? Yes. For every distro there are howto's (manuals). Anybody willing to help off list (via email or irc) Just post your questions here. Other people could learn a lot from you and others ;) After OS Swap, how much of the remaining drive space would it be ok to dedicate to freenet? Split temp store 50/50? No, you don't have to do 50/50. 1024MB swap-space is already to much. Much installers can do it for you or - at lease - give hints. Does java for linux behave any better? I don't know. It works for me :) Any tricks to configuring mainport.bindAddress mainport.allowedHosts? It works the same. What about fuqid frost? Frost runs out of the box. For Fuqid you'll need wine [http://www.winehq.com/]. I am using CrossOver Office [http://www.codeweavers.com/]. You start with a bag full of luck and an empty bag of experience. The trick is to fill the bag of experience before you empty the bag of luck. Just try. Don't give up to quick. There are a lot of helpful docs like howto's and things like forums ;) Good luck! ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
IRC (Was: Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 does not start (java rel, os rel))
Hi All, I am using IRC now. Never knew it was so easy. Well, my node runs now. Bouke On Sat, 2006-06-03 at 22:59 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Try reinstalling. There is a new installer that may not have this problem. [..] It works now: Freenet 0.7 Build #779 r9029. Thanks a lot. At FProxy Homepage I see the following text: No peers found [..]. I don't know how to get Freenet up and running from this point. I didn't find information to get my own key. Besides that, I never used IRC (well... I tried it ones, but got disappointed. It's not like ICQ or MSN). 1. Where could I find more information about getting Fred to do some work? The older version (0.5) just connected to nodes. I didn't have to add/share keys. 2. Where could I find my own key? I found some help in the FAQ. But it doesn't work on my version. 3. Is there somebody who trusts me and likes to share his or hers key? 4. Is there an easy way to work with IRC? I found xchat and irssi for Linux. It looks like I have to: a. connect to a server (irc.freenode.net), b. then join a channel (#freenet-refs) c. and after that I could chat (using some commands)? Right? Is it something like that? I appreciate your help! Bouke ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
My Reference (was: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 does not start (java rel, os rel))
Hi all, 2. Where could I find my own key? I found some help in the FAQ. But it doesn't work on my version. At http://localhost:/darknet/ I found My Reference. There's also a form where I could paste keys. Bouke ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 does not start (java rel, os rel)
Hi all, Try reinstalling. There is a new installer that may not have this problem. [..] It works now: Freenet 0.7 Build #779 r9029. Thanks a lot. At FProxy Homepage I see the following text: No peers found [..]. I don't know how to get Freenet up and running from this point. I didn't find information to get my own key. Besides that, I never used IRC (well... I tried it ones, but got disappointed. It's not like ICQ or MSN). 1. Where could I find more information about getting Fred to do some work? The older version (0.5) just connected to nodes. I didn't have to add/share keys. 2. Where could I find my own key? I found some help in the FAQ. But it doesn't work on my version. 3. Is there somebody who trusts me and likes to share his or hers key? 4. Is there an easy way to work with IRC? I found xchat and irssi for Linux. It looks like I have to: a. connect to a server (irc.freenode.net), b. then join a channel (#freenet-refs) c. and after that I could chat (using some commands)? Right? Is it something like that? I appreciate your help! Bouke ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Build problem
javac automatically includes the main rt.jar java library, jikes does not. you'll have to add rt.jar to your classpath it you're using jikes Hi, After got freenet-ext.jar (make getseeds) make jar return the error: make jar jikes -bootclasspath lib/freenet-ext.jar -sourcepath src -d build src/freenet/client/*.java src/freenet/client/cli/*.java Found 1 system error: *** Semantic Error: You need to modify your classpath, sourcepath, bootclasspath, and/or extdirs setup. Jikes could not find package java.lang in: lib/freenet-ext.jar /src/FreeNet-src/lib src What's wrong ? Sam. -- Ce message a été vérifié par MailScanner pour des virus ou des polluriels et rien de suspect n'a été trouvé. MailScanner remercie transtec pour son soutien. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Re: Turning off or shutting down Freenet
Right now this isn't directly possible via freenet.exe (the systray app) as far as I can tell. It does take command line args, but not a shutdown one. It could Heh ignore that, I'm an idiot, obviously running freenet.exe -shutdown to call ExitFServe would spawn a new process then shut it down rather than affecting an existing one :) It would have to look for another instance of itself, post stop/exit messages to it and then quit. This is unneccessarily complex though, process killing should work one way or another. Good news I found a way that kind of works and doesn't require any external programs. taskkill.exe comes with Windows and can be used to end tasks/processes from the commandline. Unfortunately, Freenet doesn't work properly with taskkill. In theory, 'taskkill /IM freenet.exe' should end Freenet but it only ends the front end. Freenet remains in the background. Repeating the function does not help (it says send the signal but the process does not end). I guess Freenet backend does not respond to Windows end task signal for some reason. An alternative, you can use 'taskkill /IM freenet.exe /F' which forces Freenet to end but of course this means it's not a clean shutdown. While I still think a command line shut down switch would be useful, at the very least Freenet should respond properly to a Windows end task signal. Thanks Matthew for your help to approve my message as I used a remailed for anonymity purposes. The freenet node runs with the name javaw.exe. But if you don't know the exact PID, simply killing by name might affect other java programs running as they all have the same process name (java or javaw). freenet.exe is just the bunnyapp (Yes, this confusion arises quite often but nobody cares to give this, IMHO totally superfluous (hopefully 0.7 comes without all these stupid extra-programs), app a proper name). ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Re: Web install does not work
Are you on 5105 now then? In About it says 0.5.2.8 that's the version of the systray utility for windows, a small freenet starting/stopping tool for windoze user convenience the node's version is shown at the node's web-interface at http://127.0.0.1:/ which btw is your first entry into the freenet world. if you've made yourself comfortable check out programs like Frost, FUQID and FIW that use more of freenet's capabilites ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: Could not find the Main class error
Hello, Sameerrors... WhenLaunchingFreenet: Thestrangethingisthatitisstillpresentinthebar... When launching Configure from the task bar: Whentyping:java-Xmx128M-cpfreenet.jarfreenet.node.Main E:\ProgramFiles\Freenet java-Xmx128M-cpfreenet.jarfreenet.node.Main Exceptioninthread"main"java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:freenet/node/Main WhenLaunching:java-Xmx128M-cpfreenet.jar;freenet-ext.jar;%CLASSPAT H%freenet.node.Main E:\ProgramFiles\Freenet java-Xmx128M-cpfreenet.jar;freenet-ext.jar;%CLASSPAT H%freenet.node.Main Exceptioninthread"main"java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:freenet/node/Main Anymoreideas? ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Question.7
On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 05:48:37PM -0400, Juiceman wrote: Wasn't there an idea to have a separate encrypted user store with a key that is only in ram? When a person turns off their node or computer the user store is essentially unreadable and would be erased on next start-up? Locally requested content would only be kept there. Sure. This will help. We might support HTL 0 requests/inserts but have them only go to the client cache. Or we might overload it so that that was HTL=3D-1, and HTL=3D0 goes to the client cache and then the store, but is not routed. I was under the impression, that *every* answer to a request initiated by the node would be stored in the client cache with a one-time-memory-only-key. Other passing DataFounds would be stored as usual in the normal data store. Who's wrong here? ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Re: Could not find the Main class error
6. Enter java -Xmx128M -cp freenet.jar freenet.node.Main without the quotes. make that java -Xmx128M -cp freenet.jar;freenet-ext.jar;%CLASSPATH% freenet.node.Main ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Segfaults in freenet.node.ds.FSDataStoreElement$KeyInputStreamImpl.close()
The virtual machine you're running (Sun?) is segfaulting (accessing a memory area that it may not access, often raised due programming errors). This is no error of freenet or the node, but it simply triggers an error in the virtual machine. Consider upgrading your Java environmnent as the current release is 1.5.0_04 (or perhaps already _05) and yours is 1.4.2_09, which is rather old. Maybe your particular bug has been fixed with a more recent JRE. You do not need to alter anything on your current freenet installation; the store and anything can remain untouched and it would be a loss to lose all the stored data- and routing-informations the node has already gained. Over the past day or so, I've been getting a lot of crashes that I haven't seen before. They all have one error in common: # An unexpected error has been detected by HotSpot Virtual Machine: # # SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x2a45607a, pid=43265, tid=3076 # # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (1.4.2_09-b05 mixed mode) # Problematic frame: # j freenet.node.ds.FSDataStoreElement$KeyInputStreamImpl.close()V+14 It's always freenet.node.ds.FSDataStoreElement$KeyInputStreamImpl.close() that triggers the segfault. As I said, I've not seen these crashes before today, and all of a sudden they're killing my node left and right. It strikes me as odd that I've been running a node for nearly two years without encountering this error, and over the course of a day it's taken my node out again and again and again. What is this error telling me? Should I delete my datastore and start fresh? Is this a disk I/O error? -s ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Another weird error
5103 + 1.5.0_02 Linux Sarge kerner 2.6.11 export PATH= $PATH:/home/fnrun/jre1.5.0_02/bin/:/home/fnrun/jre1.5.0_02/lib/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/freenet$ ./start-freenet.sh [1] 5816 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/freenet$ Detected freenet-ext.jar Detected freenet.jar Sun java detected. Sun Java 1.4.2 detected. Starting Freenet now: Command line: java -Xmx256m -XX:MaxDirectMemorySize=256m freenet.node.Main Done INFO: Native CPUID library 'freenet/support/CPUInformation/libjcpuid-x86-linux.so' loaded from resource INFO: Optimized native BigInteger library 'net/i2p/util/libjbigi-linux-pentium3.so' loaded from resource [1]+ Done./start-freenet.sh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/freenet$ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/freenet$ java.io.IOException: Attempt to use a released TempFileBucket: /home2/fnrun/freenet/store/temp/tbf_6d399dce at freenet.support.SpyOutputStream.checkValid(SpyOutputStream.java:29) at freenet.support.SpyOutputStream.close(SpyOutputStream.java:105) at freenet.client.SegmentOutputStream.close(SegmentOutputStream.java:237) at java.io.FilterOutputStream.close(Unknown Source) at freenet.support.io.FilterDataChunkOutputStream.close(FilterDataChunkOutputStream.java:23) at java.io.FilterOutputStream.close(Unknown Source) at freenet.OutputStreamTrailerWriter.close(OutputStreamTrailerWriter.java:35) at freenet.node.states.data.SendData.closeSend(SendData.java:187) at freenet.node.states.data.SendData.handleThrowable(SendData.java:419) at freenet.node.states.data.SendData.finish(SendData.java:578) at freenet.node.states.data.SendData.received(SendData.java:277) at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:177) at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:61) at freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler $ChainContainer.run(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:335) at freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler $ChainContainer.received(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:288) at freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler $ChainContainer.access$100(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:207) at freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler.handle(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:99) at freenet.Ticker$Event.run(Ticker.java:325) at freenet.thread.YThreadFactory $YThread.run(YThreadFactory.java:285) java.io.IOException: Attempt to use a released TempFileBucket: /home2/fnrun/freenet/store/temp/tbf_6d399dce at freenet.support.SpyOutputStream.checkValid(SpyOutputStream.java:29) at freenet.support.SpyOutputStream.close(SpyOutputStream.java:105) at freenet.client.SegmentOutputStream.close(SegmentOutputStream.java:237) at java.io.FilterOutputStream.close(Unknown Source) at freenet.support.io.FilterDataChunkOutputStream.close(FilterDataChunkOutputStream.java:23) at java.io.FilterOutputStream.close(Unknown Source) at freenet.OutputStreamTrailerWriter.close(OutputStreamTrailerWriter.java:35) at freenet.node.states.data.SendData.closeSend(SendData.java:187) at freenet.node.states.data.SendData.handleThrowable(SendData.java:419) at freenet.node.states.data.SendData.finish(SendData.java:578) at freenet.node.states.data.SendData.received(SendData.java:277) at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:177) at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:61) at freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler $ChainContainer.run(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:335) at freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler $ChainContainer.received(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:288) at freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler $ChainContainer.access$100(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:207) at freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler.handle(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:99) at freenet.Ticker$Event.run(Ticker.java:325) at freenet.thread.YThreadFactory $YThread.run(YThreadFactory.java:285) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/freenet$ # # An unexpected error has been detected by HotSpot Virtual Machine: # # [thread 16384 also had an error]] [thread 16384 also had an error]] [thread 16384 also had an error]] [thread 16384 also had an error]] [thread 16384 also had an error]] [thread 16384 also had an error]] [thread 16384 also had an error]] [thread 16384 also had an error]] [thread 16384 also had an error]] [thread 16384 also had an error]] [thread 16384 also had an error] [thread 16384 also had an error] [thread 16384 also had an error] [thread 16384 also had an error] [thread 16384 also had an error] [thread 16384 also had an error] [thread 16384 also had an error] [thread 16384 also had an error] [thread 16384 also had an error] [thread 16384 also had an error] [thread 16384 also had an error] [thread 16384 also had an error] [thread 16384 also had an error] [thread 16384 also had
Re: [freenet-support] Fwd: memory problem
Where do I need to define memory constraints for the java executables as defined in flaunch.ini? Appending the constraints to JavaExec and JavaW in flaunch is not accepted. Basically I want freenet to use less memory, all the memory that it uses is not working in its favour. It results in trashing. In FLaunch.ini try setting: JavaMem=64M Although that might be not enough to run freenet it's a first try. If it crashes or OOMs, increase the limit to 96M, 128M, ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] KSK question
This is a Type III anonymous message, sent to you by the Mixminion server at pbox-level-2.homelinux.net. If you do not want to receive anonymous messages, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- Message-type: plaintext - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 is it possible to get freenet to allow me to overwrite the contents of a KSK@ keyspace? Some idiot uploaded a *REALLY* offensive .jpg into one of my NiM slots and if it is at all possible, I'd like to replace it with some text. Thanks for the help. M2C - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Cygwin) iD8DBQFCTKS9z+9G5ZJ2nX4RAq2QAKCLXWJ3esRX4dls6DGG11/hxSpA/ACfQOez kKN6kFWEFu9BkYFeSOOX4iM= =Yyre - -END PGP SIGNATURE- -END TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Crash; jvm or freenet?
Freenet keeps crashing (or jvm?). I can't do `/etc/init.d/freenet Your JVM crashed with Signal 11 = Segmentation Fault # # The exception above was detected in native code outside the VM # # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (Blackdown-1.4.2-01 mixed mode) # Try switching to Sun's latest JVM 1.5 (http://java.sun.com/). You might encounter problems installing it for gentoo as there are only rpms and .bin installers; dunno if gentoo can handle these. But any other JVM with at least version 1.4 should work, too (e.g. IBM's) costs me 3p an hour 3 pence? 3 pounds? yes, 3 pence would be great! :) *envy* to run my computer (1.5c) 1.5c = worth 1.5 cent?? an 1.5GHz Celeron !?? I suppose it wasn't that important... ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] node config suggestions on high bandwidth situation and a maybe-bug
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:54:25 -0800, Todd Walton wrote: On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 14:12:54 +0100, BlueStar88 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm running a node on a high power root-server What is a root server? a root server is a rented server you've got root access on. a managed server is a rented server you've got one or more user accounts on and a (usually web) frontend to configure things where root access would be needed for. you've got no access to the root account. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] which jvm?
On Sat, 2004-10-09 at 20:48, Nicholas Sturm wrote: Won't help me if the explanation is in Italian. Unfortunatly is a slang joke, using gramelot, so only a person practically mothertongue side-by-side with you can translate that. Ciao. Marco [Original Message] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freenetsup Maillist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10/9/2004 2:52:27 AM Subject: Re: [freenet-support] which jvm? Remailer operator, as freenet node owner, works for free and pay for it. Let them have some fun . Never seen, with an Italian speaking friend, why antani remailer has this name ? It is explained on the remailer site. Ciao. Marco On Sat, 2004-10-09 at 01:01, Nicholas Sturm wrote: Actually, anonymous might be a good substitute for futureworlds; a choice that might be clearer, even to all nubies, and not just assumed to be a pseudonym, or a moniker bestowed by parents such as Mr. Mrs. Graff who named their son Auto Graff. [Original Message] From: A.Melon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10/8/2004 6:46:26 PM Subject: Re: [freenet-support] which jvm? In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 05:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although if you do get it to work, futureworlds, let us know, please. Er ... futureworlds is a Mixmaster anonymous remailer dummy address. Ah, I see. This issue has come up before with somebody using Toad's email address to mail to the list. I wish it was common to insert some kind of short text, forwarded from or some such. -todd Why is that? I thought that of all people, surely freenet users would understand a desire to remain anonymous. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Oggi e' il domani di cui ci dovevamo preoccupare ieri. -- Oggi e' il domani di cui ci dovevamo preoccupare ieri. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] which jvm?
Remailer operator, as freenet node owner, works for free and pay for it. Let them have some fun . Never seen, with an Italian speaking friend, why antani remailer has this name ? It is explained on the remailer site. Ciao. Marco On Sat, 2004-10-09 at 01:01, Nicholas Sturm wrote: Actually, anonymous might be a good substitute for futureworlds; a choice that might be clearer, even to all nubies, and not just assumed to be a pseudonym, or a moniker bestowed by parents such as Mr. Mrs. Graff who named their son Auto Graff. [Original Message] From: A.Melon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10/8/2004 6:46:26 PM Subject: Re: [freenet-support] which jvm? In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 05:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although if you do get it to work, futureworlds, let us know, please. Er ... futureworlds is a Mixmaster anonymous remailer dummy address. Ah, I see. This issue has come up before with somebody using Toad's email address to mail to the list. I wish it was common to insert some kind of short text, forwarded from or some such. -todd Why is that? I thought that of all people, surely freenet users would understand a desire to remain anonymous. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Oggi e' il domani di cui ci dovevamo preoccupare ieri. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Site insertion woes
forget windows 98. it wasn't designed to run programs bigger than notepad. in detail freenet and fiw use up so many network connections that win 98 can not deliver that much. it's a design flaw of win 98 and there doesn't exist a fix. although there is a workaround which might work: you can try to increase the upper limit of allowed concurrent connections add the string key MaxConnections = 250 under HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\MSTCP to your registry and reboot if it doesn't help - increase to 512 then to 1024 if that doesn't help - get yerself an operating system (i'm using 98se too so i know it's crap, linux is your only friend out there) in attempting to insert a test site and ran got an enourmous number of errors from FIW .08 java.net.SocketException: No buffer space available (maximum connections reached ?): connect at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.socketConnect(Native Method) at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.doConnect(Unknown Source) at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connectToAddress(Unknown Source) at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source) at java.net.Socket.connect(Unknown Source) at java.net.Socket.connect(Unknown Source) at java.net.Socket.init(Unknown Source) at java.net.Socket.init(Unknown Source) at fiw.fcp.FCPConn.makeSocket0(FCPConn.java:538) at fiw.fcp.FCPConn.makeSocket(FCPConn.java:516) at fiw.fcp.FCPConn.insertStream(FCPConn.java:242) at fiw.fcp.FCPConn.insertStream(FCPConn.java:218) at fiw.core.jobs.InsertJob.run(InsertJob.java:231) at fiw.core.jobs.Job.run0(Job.java:131) at fiw.core.jobs.PooledThreadProducer$PooledThread.run(PooledThreadProdu cer.java:97) looking at the freenet.log shows a problem allright. freenet.ini is all defaults except for ip address, listenport, inputBandwidthLimit=1024 and outputBandwidthLimit=1024 OS is win98se with nothing running that isn't required for freenet and FIW freenet has been working good for site retrievals and small NiM inserts, but I can't seem to insert a full freesite. Oct 8, 2004 8:49:48 PM (freenet.node.Main, main): Starting Freenet (Fred) 0.5 node, build #5096 on JVM Sun Microsystems Inc.:Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM:1.4.2_05-b04 INFO: Native CPUID library 'freenet/support/CPUInformation/jcpuid-x86-windows.dll' loaded from resource INFO: Optimized native BigInteger library 'net/i2p/util/jbigi-windows-pentiummmx.dll' loaded from resource Oct 8, 2004 8:50:02 PM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading node keys: node Oct 8, 2004 8:50:02 PM (freenet.node.Main, main): Read node file Oct 8, 2004 8:50:06 PM (freenet.node.Main, main): starting filesystem Oct 8, 2004 8:50:11 PM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading data store Oct 8, 2004 8:50:11 PM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading routing table Oct 8, 2004 8:50:14 PM (freenet.node.Main, main): From input: 1024.0 Oct 8, 2004 8:50:14 PM (freenet.node.Main, main): Setting default initTransferRate to 1024.0 Oct 8, 2004 8:50:42 PM (freenet.node.Main, main): Created new NGRT Oct 8, 2004 8:50:43 PM (freenet.node.Main, main): Loaded stats Oct 8, 2004 8:50:43 PM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading temp bucket factory Oct 8, 2004 8:50:43 PM (freenet.node.Main, main): loaded temp bucket factory Oct 8, 2004 8:50:43 PM (freenet.node.Main, main): Loaded bucket factory Oct 8, 2004 8:50:43 PM (freenet.node.Main, main): not seeding routing table Oct 8, 2004 8:50:51 PM (freenet.node.Main, main): starting node Oct 8, 2004 8:50:59 PM (freenet.node.Main, main): Detected Windows 98/ME. Limiting connections accordingly. To get rid of this message, use a proper operating system - sorry Oct 8, 2004 8:51:00 PM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading service: mainport Oct 8, 2004 8:51:04 PM (freenet.node.Main, main): loading service: distribution Oct 8, 2004 8:51:04 PM (freenet.interfaces.servlet.SingleHttpServletContainer, main): Loading the single servlet distribution.params.servlet Oct 8, 2004 8:51:06 PM (freenet.node.Node, main): Starting ticker.. Oct 8, 2004 8:51:06 PM (freenet.node.Node, main): Starting interfaces.. Oct 8, 2004 8:51:07 PM (freenet.node.http.BookmarkManagerServlet, main): Bookmarks updated on request Oct 8, 2004 8:51:10 PM (freenet.node.Node, main): starting ListenSelector.. Oct 8, 2004 8:51:52 PM (freenet.support.io.NIOInputStream, YThread-9): waited more than 3ms in NIOIS.read() tcp/connection: 205567.80.194.103:5771,[EMAIL PROTECTED]:freenet.supp [EMAIL PROTECTED] closing java.lang.Exception: debug at freenet.support.io.NIOInputStream.read(NIOInputStream.java:319) at java.io.FilterInputStream.read(Unknown Source) at freenet.session.FnpLink.negotiateOutbound(FnpLink.java:637) at freenet.session.FnpLink.solicit(FnpLink.java:202) at freenet.session.FnpLinkManager.createOutgoing(FnpLinkManager.java:111) at freenet.ConnectionJob.run(ConnectionJob.java:378) at freenet.ConnectionJob.createConnection(ConnectionJob.java:78
[freenet-support] Freenet over 100%
Probably in the unstable the problem of the load bar constantly over 100% is already solved, but on the 5096 it happens only with sun jvm 1.5. and not with older ones. HTH. Marco -- + Il Progetto Freenet - segui il coniglio bianco ---+ * the Freenet Project - follow the white rabbit* * Marco A. Calamari[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.marcoc.it* * PGP RSA: ED84 3839 6C4D 3FFE 389F 209E 3128 5698 * + DSS/DH: 8F3E 5BAE 906F B416 9242 1C10 8661 24A9 BFCE 822B + = Signature assolutamente contraria alla netiquette, = Non credo proprio che su Freenet vi siano cose illegali. Dopo tutto io non ne ho mai viste, ho solo sentito delle voci che lo sostengono. Comunque, se ce ne fossero, sono assolutamente convinto che ve le hanno messe individui ed organizzazioni ostili a Freenet, ai suoi scopi ed alle liberta' civili, e che la comunita' degli utenti Freenet non li recupera, se non per errore. Ed anche se ci fosse chi recupera questo materiale illegale, sono profondamente convinto che questo venga fatto da individui ed organizzazioni ostili a Freenet ed alle liber- ta' civili per diffondere tra la gente paura, incertezza e disinformazione su Freenet e l'anonimato. Utilizzo e diffondo Freenet per proteggere il diritto alla privacy mio e di tutti gli onesti cittadini, comunicando in maniera anonima, come e' mio diritto riconosciuto, informazioni e materiali assoluta- mente legali. Credo che questa mia posizione sia condivisa da coloro che non riconoscono alla vicina di casa, ad organizza- zioni legali ed illegali ed al Governo il diritto di monitora- re tutto cio' che fanno e dicono. Nel caso che vi fossero persone che invece credono sia giusto farsi monitorare in questo modo, perche' tanto loro e tutte le persone oneste non hanno niente da nascondere, vorrei che sapessero che l'esis- tenza di persone cosi' ingenue e candide non mi fa ridere nemmeno un po', ma anzi mi preoccupa molto. Non per quello che puo' succedere a loro, che se lo meriterebbero, ma per quello che altri, con il loro supporto attivo o passivo, potrebbero fare a tutti noi. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] which jvm?
On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 20:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 05:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Although if you do get it to work, futureworlds, let us know, please. Er ... futureworlds is a Mixmaster anonymous remailer dummy address. Ah, I see. This issue has come up before with somebody using Toad's email address to mail to the list. I wish it was common to insert some kind of short text, forwarded from or some such. Yes, this is the default for Mixmaster remailer. There is a detailed Comment: header that your MUA probably hides. The body *cannot be changed*; is a philosophical problem ... HTH. Marco -- Oggi e' il domani di cui ci dovevamo preoccupare ieri. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] which jvm?
On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 05:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Jay Oliveri [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tuesday 05 October 2004 02:16 pm, futureworlds wrote: given win98se and being forced to run with only 64mb ram on a p233 Not much you can do except run Freenet on at least NT4 or Win2K. Win98 cannot handle an application like Freenet, and you might have too little ram to even *make* it work. Although if you do get it to work, futureworlds, let us know, please. Er ... futureworlds is a Mixmaster anonymous remailer dummy address. -- Oggi e' il domani di cui ci dovevamo preoccupare ieri. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] freenet starts and hangs
mail escape string for '=' as '=' itself is used to escape special characters No-one seems to have mentioned that your freenet.ini file looks like it is full of junk. What is all this =3D crap? Try deleting the freenet.ini file and recreating it. Freenet really doesn't like corrupted ini files. - Original Message - From: Anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 8:03 PM Subject: [freenet-support] freenet starts and hangs freenet starts up, then stops with flashing '!' on the systray rabbit. Anyone know the cause of this? perhaps my settings are at fault? any advice / recomendations are welcome except for bandwidth limits which I have no choice except 512bytes / sec inbound and outbound. thanks freenet.log (in it's entirety) Oct 1, 2004 7:45:01 AM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): Starting Freenet (Fred) 0.5 node, build #5096 on JVM Sun Microsystems Inc.:Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM:1.4.1_03-b02 INFO: Native CPUID library 'freenet/support/CPUInformation/jcpuid-x86-windows.dll' loaded from resource INFO: Optimized native BigInteger library 'net/i2p/util/jbigi-windows-pentiummmx.dll' loaded from resource Oct 1, 2004 7:45:18 AM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): loading node keys: node Oct 1, 2004 7:45:19 AM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): Read node file Oct 1, 2004 7:45:22 AM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): starting filesystem Oct 1, 2004 7:45:29 AM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): loading data store Oct 1, 2004 7:45:30 AM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): loading routing table Oct 1, 2004 7:45:32 AM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): From input: 512.0= Oct 1, 2004 7:45:32 AM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): Setting default initTransferRate to 512.0 Oct 1, 2004 7:45:54 AM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): Created new NGRT Oct 1, 2004 7:45:55 AM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): Loaded stats Oct 1, 2004 7:45:55 AM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): loading temp bucket factory Oct 1, 2004 7:45:55 AM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): loaded temp bucket factory Oct 1, 2004 7:45:55 AM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): Loaded bucket factory Oct 1, 2004 7:45:55 AM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): not seeding routing table Oct 1, 2004 7:45:59 AM (freenet.node.Main, main, NORMAL): starting node Could not initialize network I/O system! Exiting java.io.IOException: Unable to establish loopback connection at sun.nio.ch.PipeImpl$Initializer.run(Unknown Source) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at sun.nio.ch.PipeImpl.init(Unknown Source) at sun.nio.ch.SelectorProviderImpl.openPipe(Unknown Source) at java.nio.channels.Pipe.open(Unknown Source) at sun.nio.ch.WindowsSelectorImpl.init(Unknown Source) at sun.nio.ch.WindowsSelectorProvider.openSelector(Unknown Source) at java.nio.channels.Selector.open(Unknown Source) at freenet.transport.AbstractSelectorLoop.init(AbstractSelectorLoop.java:153= ) at freenet.transport.ThrottledSelectorLoop.init(ThrottledSelectorLoop.java:6= 9) at freenet.transport.WriteSelectorLoop.init(WriteSelectorLoop.java:85) at freenet.transport.tcpConnection.startSelectorLoops(tcpConnection.java:167) at freenet.node.Main.startNode(Main.java:1570) at freenet.node.Main.spawnNode(Main.java:1060) at freenet.node.Main.main(Main.java:908) Caused by: java.net.SocketException: No buffer space available (maximum connections reached?): connect at sun.nio.ch.Net.connect(Native Method) at sun.nio.ch.SocketChannelImpl.connect(Unknown Source) at java.nio.channels.SocketChannel.open(Unknown Source) ... 15 more here's most of my freenet.ini [Node Config] # Freenet configuration file # This file was automatically generated by WinConfig on 09/30/04 [Freenet Node] # Note that all properties may be overridden from the command line, # so for example, java Freenet.Node --listenPort 1 will cause # the setting in this file to be ignored # Normal entries # The byte size of the datastore cache file. Note that it will maintain # a fixed size. If you change this or the storePath field following, # your entire datastore will be wiped and replaced with a blank one storeSize=3D795M # The path to a single file (including file name, or a comma-separated list= # of files, # containing the data store. The size of each file is given by storeSize= # Defaults to cache_port in the main freenet directory. #storeFile=3D # The port to listen for incoming FNP (Freenet Node Protocol) connections o= n. listenPort=3D## # The I.P. address of this node as seen by the public internet. # This is needed in order for the node to determine its own # NodeReference. ipAddress=3Dmydomain.com # Transient nodes do not give out references to themselves, and should # therefore not receive any requests. Set this to yes only if you are # on a slow, non-permanent connection. transient=3Dfalse
[freenet-support] Freenet stable insert
Can someone post data on how insert works with stable 5095? From a couple of well inserted node I'm unable to insert: 1) a freesite that was previously inserted in 24 hours is still running after 1 week (using FIW, 5095, sun 1.4.5.) at depth 8 2) a single KSK from fproxy at depth 6 Any suggestion ? Many thanks. Marco -- +--- http://www.winstonsmith.info ---+ | il Progetto Winston Smith: scolleghiamo il Grande Fratello | | the Winston Smith Project: unplug the Big Brother | | Marco A. Calamari [EMAIL PROTECTED] http:// www.marcoc.it | | DSS/DH: 8F3E 5BAE 906F B416 9242 1C10 8661 24A9 BFCE 822B | + PGP RSA: ED84 3839 6C4D 3FFE 389F 209E 3128 5698 --+ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Re: [freenet-chat] paypal policy
On Sat, 2004-09-11 at 21:30, Toad wrote: We've had problems with paypal before. We've tried alternatives; nobody would use them. However, when you organize a mass phoning-the-CFO campaign, they are quite responsive :) Bring it on, a good slashdotting usually helps the fund. We do not violate the regulations; we do not provide pornographic services. If they want to take the line that we do, well, we'll deal with that when we come to it. BTW there is ~~ $0 in the paypal account; I just got sent $800, and that was all there was in the account. There is however a substantial sum in the bank, some of which will be sent to the project codefrog shortly. We may launch an appeal after releasing the simulation results formally in the coming days.. Quite interesting, albeit not fully informative (what is codefrog ? why codefrog and not another project? ). I'm doing my yearly small donation to the Freenet Project, but I'm still very disappointed by the non-public way the Project use to administer the money that receive. At the beginning the site had at least the running total of the PayPal donation, and from time to time in the donatio page itself, some news was given, as for example the good news of your full time job! Last year I wrote exactly the same thing, but received no answer; I would be pleased to see from time to time, news on the site ot maillist, about the way money is used. I'm quite sure that I'm not alone. For example, the Florence Linux User Group normally discuss in public how the (few) money is managed, and use a signed spreadsheet with income and expenses. Few minutes each month suffice to update this. On the main site I was unable to find the composition of the Freenet Board or any detail about the way money is used. The mission statement is not a detail, of course. Your mail is the first news I saw by longtime on this subject; I really cannot understand why a formally managed project give no details of the way his money is managed. A simple monthly mail sent to the maillist will be enought (IMHO, of course) In any case my donation will arrive shortly Ciao. Marco -- + Il Progetto Freenet - segui il coniglio bianco ---+ * the Freenet Project - follow the white rabbit* * Marco A. Calamari[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.marcoc.it* * PGP RSA: ED84 3839 6C4D 3FFE 389F 209E 3128 5698 * + DSS/DH: 8F3E 5BAE 906F B416 9242 1C10 8661 24A9 BFCE 822B + = Signature assolutamente contraria alla netiquette, = Non credo proprio che su Freenet vi siano cose illegali. Dopo tutto io non ne ho mai viste, ho solo sentito delle voci che lo sostengono. Comunque, se ce ne fossero, sono assolutamente convinto che ve le hanno messe individui ed organizzazioni ostili a Freenet, ai suoi scopi ed alle liberta' civili, e che la comunita' degli utenti Freenet non li recupera, se non per errore. Ed anche se ci fosse chi recupera questo materiale illegale, sono profondamente convinto che questo venga fatto da individui ed organizzazioni ostili a Freenet ed alle liber- ta' civili per diffondere tra la gente paura, incertezza e disinformazione su Freenet e l'anonimato. Utilizzo e diffondo Freenet per proteggere il diritto alla privacy mio e di tutti gli onesti cittadini, comunicando in maniera anonima, come e' mio diritto riconosciuto, informazioni e materiali assoluta- mente legali. Credo che questa mia posizione sia condivisa da coloro che non riconoscono alla vicina di casa, ad organizza- zioni legali ed illegali ed al Governo il diritto di monitora- re tutto cio' che fanno e dicono. Nel caso che vi fossero persone che invece credono sia giusto farsi monitorare in questo modo, perche' tanto loro e tutte le persone oneste non hanno niente da nascondere, vorrei che sapessero che l'esis- tenza di persone cosi' ingenue e candide non mi fa ridere nemmeno un po', ma anzi mi preoccupa molto. Non per quello che puo' succedere a loro, che se lo meriterebbero, ma per quello che altri, con il loro supporto attivo o passivo, potrebbero fare a tutti noi. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [freenet-support] Newbie : is my installation good ?
hm, that is really poor. your node might be taught some other nodes. download http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/seednodes.ref and store it within your freenet directory, overwriting the existing file. then stop and restart your node so it will reseed itself from that file, importing all node references stored within. this procedure is called reseeding. maybe you even don't need to stop and restart the node; but as your node is pretty currently useless to you and the network, no harm is done when you take it down for a few minutes HTH Have installed the update 5091 and still have only 32 nodes : Number of known routing nodes 32 Number of node references 32 Number of newbie nodes 1 Number of uncontactable nodes 0 Contacted and attempted to contact node references 32 Contacted node references 3 Contacted newbie node references 0 Connections with Successful Transfers 3 Backed off nodes 3 Connection Attempts 286 Successful Connections 5 Lowest max estimated search time 0ms Lowest max estimated DNF time 0ms Lowest global search time estimate 3315.0ms Highest global search time estimate 13270.0ms Lowest global transfer rate estimate 451 bytes/second Highest global transfer rate estimate 1 553 bytes/second Lowest one hop probability of DNF 0,8874 Highest one hop probability of DNF 0,9475 Lowest one hop probability of transfer failure 0,0476 Highest one hop probability of transfer failure 0, Single hop probability of QueryRejected 0.043 Single hop average time for QueryRejected 5035.026553250033 Single hop probability of early timeout 0.324 Single hop average time for early timeout 18029.086762984993 Single hop probability of search timeout 0.572 Single hop average time for search timeout 66627.9187723576 Single hop overall probability of DNF given no timeout 0.898 Single hop overall probability of transfer failure given transfer 0.12827225130890052 Probability of transfer given incoming request 0.0 Total number of requests that didn't QR 119 Total number of reqests that timed out before a QR or Accepted 35 Implementation freenet.node.rt.NGRoutingTable It tried http://127.0.0.1:/servlet/nodeinfo/networking/ocm as proposed. Here is the result : Connections open (Inbound/Outbound/Limit) 3 (0/3/200) Transfers active (Transmitting/Receiving) 11 (0/11) Data waiting to be transferred None Total amount of data transferred 10 MiB Any sugestion would be very appreciated. Thanks for your help, Laurent -Message d'origine- De : Toad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : jeudi 12 août 2004 02:21 À : lflesch.domicile; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : Re: [freenet-support] Newbie : is my installation good ? On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 04:39:04PM +0200, lflesch.domicile wrote: I'm actually making a tree with freenet. Installed freenet build 5090 on XP pro + frost. I have configured my node as permanent node and have made a reseed with the seednode found on freenet homepage. Everything seems working yet : - After 3 days o connection, I have only maxi 30 reference node connected. Is it normal. What is a typical number ? No. It should be higher than that. See http://127.0.0.1:/servlet/nodeinfo/networking/ocm Near the top it should say something like: Connections open (Inbound/Outbound/Limit) 82 (30/52/200) Show me - are there any inbound connections? - Browsing a freesite is very hard. In fact, I succeeded only once opening one of the site proposed. Is it normal ? No. Well, mostly no. :). Consequence of the above. I hope all your advices to help me diagnose and tune my installation. Thanks ! -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] node on a server, and at home?
don't worry, your node will automatically tell you when a newer version i= s available (by noticing new build numbers within the network) Usually :). Check the web site from time to time, or read this list or devl, in case there's a reset. This is not necessarily so. 99% of the time this works, but the most recent node update (5090) was a full and clean network reset, meaning 5090 would talk only to builds 5090 and above. If you had a 5089 node, you'd never get the notice about seeing a newer build. This doesn't immediately matter to you, Mike, I'm just commenting on the above statement. true, you're both correct, in fact someone simply *has* to use the new builds first so the other builds can see there's something new around. maybe my answer was shot too fast again ^-^ the comment was meant as an easy small step for node ops when to update; being member of the support, announce and devl mailinglist is of course superior and preferable hand ;) ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] 5090 quirks...
ack.
then i hope you're pleased with my other observations?
so one can say, a node is unusable without doubt if it has less than, say, 40
connections to other nodes, is halfway useable if less than 60 and after that it's
okay?
maybe the mainport could give credit to this and not only show the 'first time user
message' but also a box describing verbally how many connections there are and what
successes the user can expect with that
amount of connections. this might hopefully dam up the 'help! my node can't connect'
mails and increase 1st time users' rating. communication is usually helpful ;)
especially between cryptic and strange nodes and
freenet maidens
It rejected the requests because it only had one connection. It had
nowhere to route the request to and didn't have it in its routing table,
so it instantly RNF'd it.
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 10:54:22PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi there, today i've tried the new 5090 build and i'd like to share my ex=
periences with you.
=20
first of, i've run into the 'too big seednodes' problem, too cutting =
the seednodes into half and throwing away one of these halves helped, as we=
ll as the suggestion to strip the file of every 'estimator' line, which=20
worked very well too (dunno if it breaks something either, but neverthele=
ss all the noderefs seem to show up in the RT)
=20
one of the first times i started my node, it had about ~30 connections to=
other nodes after not quite 1 hour. then i restarted the node (because i n=
eeded full network bandwidth). the next node start provided me=20
ONE connection to another node in the first 20 minutes. even after 2h of =
uptime i've come to only 20 live connections. that's weird and very depress=
ing :-/ as you can imagine the node was never really useable as=20
it was constantly backed off by all nodes it had connections to.
=20
what i've discovered then is the main reason why i write this mail.
at the time my node had this only one connection to the other node i was =
able to track the type of the messages which got passed between the two nod=
es.
interesting was, that the foreign node (i will now call it 'node B') was =
quite gentle to my node ('A') as it routed some DataRequests and later so=
me StoreDatas into my direction. so one can say that node B tried to=20
integrate my node into the network and thus began to route some things in=
to my direction. not too many, but what i'd like to call just right, mean=
s something like around 1 message per 1 minute. (hm, i suppose it=20
could be more)
=20
after some time the passed message types shown at the ocm connections pag=
e looked like this:
=20
Accepted 3/1=09
DataNotFound 0/1=09
QueryRejected3/0=09
DataRequest 1/3=09
=20
he send 3 DataRequests, i sent 3 Accepted, and now it comes.. my node res=
ponded immediately with 3 QueryRejecteds! (all numbers were always equal wh=
en reloading the page, 2=3D2=3D2, 4=3D4=3D4, ...)
the question is: why did my node reject the query?
see the following stats:
=20
Current routingTime 0ms=09
Current messageSendTimeRequest 0ms=09
Pooled threads running jobs 47 (39,2%)=09
Pooled threads which are idle7=09
Current upstream bandwidth usage 76 bytes/second (1,9%)=09
Current estimated load for QueryReject purposes 39%=09
Current estimated load for rate limiting 39,2%=09
Reason for load: Load due to thread limit =3D 39,2%
Load due to routingTime =3D 10% =3D 100ms / 1000ms =3D overloadLow (100%)
Load due to messageSendTimeRequest =3D 20% =3D 100ms / 500ms =3D overloa=
dLow=20
(100%)
Load due to output bandwidth limiting =3D 2,3% because outputBytes(4589) =
=3D=20
limit (196608,003 ) =3D outLimitCutoff (0,8) * outputBandwidthLimit (4096=
) *=20
60
Load due to expected inbound transfers: 0,5% because: 1000.0 req/hr *=20
9.950189371914758E-4 (pTransfer) * 86016.0 bytes =3D 85587 bytes/hr expec=
ted=20
from current requests, but maxInputBytes/minute =3D 245760 (set input lim=
it) *=20
60 * 1.1 =3D 16220160 bytes/hr target
Load due to expected outbound transfers: 4,2% because: 5046.5665649684115=
=20
req/hr * 9.970089730807576E-4(2 0s, 0 1s, 2 total) (pTransfer) * 86016.0=
=20
bytes =3D 432787 bytes/hr expected from current requests, but=20
maxInputBytes/minute =3D 172032 * 60 * 0.8 =3D 10321920 bytes/hr target=
=20
=20
my node was *never* overloaded --okay, the first few seconds after node =
startup the messageSTR was huge-- but after that the node was constantly a=
round 20-40% load; bw was nearly unused (i set bw to poor=20
4kb/s up and down, but that was even never reached. a later removal of th=
e limit did not help, either), cpu usage was very low too as nothing happen=
ed on the node.
=20
why should the node answer with a QR? i don't get it.
=20
of course the other node will be disppointed by my node's performance and=
decide to route somewhere else (or it ignores the QR and hammers regardles=
s earning even more QRs
[freenet-support] 5090 quirks...
hi there, today i've tried the new 5090 build and i'd like to share my experiences
with you.
first of, i've run into the 'too big seednodes' problem, too cutting the seednodes
into half and throwing away one of these halves helped, as well as the suggestion to
strip the file of every 'estimator' line, which
worked very well too (dunno if it breaks something either, but nevertheless all the
noderefs seem to show up in the RT)
one of the first times i started my node, it had about ~30 connections to other nodes
after not quite 1 hour. then i restarted the node (because i needed full network
bandwidth). the next node start provided me
ONE connection to another node in the first 20 minutes. even after 2h of uptime i've
come to only 20 live connections. that's weird and very depressing :-/ as you can
imagine the node was never really useable as
it was constantly backed off by all nodes it had connections to.
what i've discovered then is the main reason why i write this mail.
at the time my node had this only one connection to the other node i was able to track
the type of the messages which got passed between the two nodes.
interesting was, that the foreign node (i will now call it 'node B') was quite
gentle to my node ('A') as it routed some DataRequests and later some StoreDatas
into my direction. so one can say that node B tried to
integrate my node into the network and thus began to route some things into my
direction. not too many, but what i'd like to call just right, means something like
around 1 message per 1 minute. (hm, i suppose it
could be more)
after some time the passed message types shown at the ocm connections page looked like
this:
Accepted3/1
DataNotFound0/1
QueryRejected 3/0
DataRequest 1/3
he send 3 DataRequests, i sent 3 Accepted, and now it comes.. my node responded
immediately with 3 QueryRejecteds! (all numbers were always equal when reloading the
page, 2=2=2, 4=4=4, ...)
the question is: why did my node reject the query?
see the following stats:
Current routingTime 0ms
Current messageSendTimeRequest 0ms
Pooled threads running jobs 47 (39,2%)
Pooled threads which are idle 7
Current upstream bandwidth usage76 bytes/second (1,9%)
Current estimated load for QueryReject purposes 39%
Current estimated load for rate limiting39,2%
Reason for load:Load due to thread limit = 39,2%
Load due to routingTime = 10% = 100ms / 1000ms = overloadLow (100%)
Load due to messageSendTimeRequest = 20% = 100ms / 500ms = overloadLow
(100%)
Load due to output bandwidth limiting = 2,3% because outputBytes(4589) =
limit (196608,003 ) = outLimitCutoff (0,8) * outputBandwidthLimit (4096) *
60
Load due to expected inbound transfers: 0,5% because: 1000.0 req/hr *
9.950189371914758E-4 (pTransfer) * 86016.0 bytes = 85587 bytes/hr expected
from current requests, but maxInputBytes/minute = 245760 (set input limit) *
60 * 1.1 = 16220160 bytes/hr target
Load due to expected outbound transfers: 4,2% because: 5046.5665649684115
req/hr * 9.970089730807576E-4(2 0s, 0 1s, 2 total) (pTransfer) * 86016.0
bytes = 432787 bytes/hr expected from current requests, but
maxInputBytes/minute = 172032 * 60 * 0.8 = 10321920 bytes/hr target
my node was *never* overloaded --okay, the first few seconds after node startup the
messageSTR was huge-- but after that the node was constantly around 20-40% load; bw
was nearly unused (i set bw to poor
4kb/s up and down, but that was even never reached. a later removal of the limit did
not help, either), cpu usage was very low too as nothing happened on the node.
why should the node answer with a QR? i don't get it.
of course the other node will be disppointed by my node's performance and decide to
route somewhere else (or it ignores the QR and hammers regardless earning even more
QRs)
maybe there's a nasty bug somewhere which leads to the massive QR diplomacy we can see
all around freenettown hindering everything as nearly all nodes are backed off.
JFYI
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Re: [freenet-support] 5090 quirks...
Accepted 3/1 DataNotFound 0/1 QueryRejected 3/0 DataRequest1/3 he send 3 DataRequests, i sent 3 Accepted, and now it comes.. my node responded immediately with 3 QueryRejecteds! (all numbers were always equal when reloading the page, 2=2=2, 4=4=4, ...) the question is: why did my node reject the query? uhm, or is the QR == RNF ?? what types of QR do exist? maybe the OCM should/could tell which type of QR the node sent? another thing with the OCM page: the nice blue/orange arrows that indicate receiving or transmitting connections are broken for some years now. but only recently i saw, that they *do* appear once in a time. alas, theis count had nothing to do with the 'number of RX/TX'. maybe this could be fixed sometime? i really like the arrows you know ;) ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] node on a server, and at home?
Hello, I control a unix (linux enterprise) server for my web sites. Can I run a node on this and access it from home? Obviously typing http://127.0.0.1: will not pull it up since it is at a server farm in another state. (USA). by default the only host which is allowed to connect to the node interface on port is localhost (127.0.0.1) this is to forbid everyone else but the owner of the machine to access the node. in your freenet.cont/.ini there is a line reading: # List of IP addresses (for example 192.168.1.7), DNS names (erica or www.nsa.gov) or netmasks (192.168.1.0/24) of hosts (computers) that should be allowed to access the main web interface of your freenet node. Defaults to localhost (127.0.0.0/8) only. %mainport.allowedHosts=127.0.0.0/8 here you can change the array of allowed host for example to: mainport.allowedHosts=127.0.0.0/8,12.34.56.78 where 12.34.56.78 is the ip of your xp computer. please remember to remove the heading % which is a comment character! you should also notice that connecting from your xp to the freenet node is now done over unencrypted http. this means that if you're being sniffed your actions can be seen and every file you retrieve out of freenet will be unencrypted, too, which will utterly destroy the principle of privacy. if you've got nothing to hide that *might* be okay, but ipspoofing/-claiming will allow others to access your freenet node, which might have negative effects on your reputation ;) so the better alternative would be: create a ssh tunnel from the linux box to your xp system (or vice versa). see 'man ssh' and look for the -L and -R options. on your windoze box you can try PuTTY which has a (hidden?) ssh daemon function; or use a different ssh tunnel software. this will protect your traffic and authorize the node access. that's the way you should choose to go Also, if I have a router at home and 2 comps (XP machines) can I have each computer running a node? of course, just make sure the FNP ports of each node are different (they're chosen randomly, so they are usually different) and forward the two ports from the router to the according xp box. you can even have more than one node per computer! if so, you should change the ports for the mainport () and the fcp port (8481) for the second node to something else (you could possibly just add +1) so they don't affect each other. With the above resources how do I get the most out of it? (configuration). My BIGGEST thing is speed. I hate not finding what I am looking for and I hate file not founds. uhm, transfer speed of a splitfile is great and is able to easily max out your connection as the split-file is retrieved in parallel from different sources. overall, freenet has a large latency but usually a nice transfer speed. 404's are sadly quite common as the node first has to 'weave' itself into the freenet network before it can archive decent performance and knowledge of the surrounding nodes. after that process it's supposed to run quite okay you just shouldn't be afraid of letting the node run 24/7 for at least a week or so (i'd say, the opinions differ) to let the node become part of the network. also be prepared that a node can use up large amounts of the network bandwidth resulting in massive transfer volumes. several gigs per month are common. What would be better, unstable or stable? unstable is the testfield but has all the fixes first. stable is more pleasant and is updated quite regulary, too. if you choose to run an unstable node you ought to update the node every single day as the unstable branch progresses very fast don't worry, your node will automatically tell you when a newer version is available (by noticing new build numbers within the network) Thanks. YW ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [freenet-support] Showdown at the Freenode Coral
Really? I believe I did. Don't get mad at me if you chose to ignore it. I gave you a link to the New York state penal code definition of criminal facilitation. Which spells out very clearly that one only needs a probable knowledge that his or her actions are allowing for a crime to occur. http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/nycodes/c82/a25.html I also provided an appeals court decision that affirm the convection of a women that acted with out full knowledge that she was committing a crime. http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data2/circs/8th/032780p.pdf I also addressed the issue that I ran a freenet node for a brief time and stated that if for what ever reason it came up I would simply plead out and do some community service. Though that would be almost imposable because there is no hard evidence I ever ran a node, and NO evidence that it ever transmitted anything illegal. You can fill all the complaints you want; the FBI has more important things to do. Failure to prosecute does not set a precedent in any way. Similarly I would never go to trial on this; I would simply plead the case out which also does not set a precedent. Quote - The lack of honesty and integrity on the part of both yourself and your employer is no hindrance to this. ? The operation of a node in and of itself is not illegal. Only when it starts transmitting illegal information can a potential problem arise. PS: We should really continue this in chat like toad requested. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 10:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [freenet-support] Showdown at the Freenode Coral Importance: Low Mr Matthew Findley You made certain claims on this list regarding the possible penal consequences of running a freenet node. I challenged you to provide law and/or precedent references to support your claims. You failed to do so. In fact, you silently ignored this challenge. I also challenged you to explain the fact that you yourself run a freenet node, in view of the facts that you (a) consider it illegal to do so and (b) post from a US department of justice address. You chose to silently ignore this challenge too. Based on your own claims regarding the legality of operating a freenet node and your disclaimer regarding the relation of the contents of your postings on this list to your employment, you are, according to yourself, either a liar or a criminal. Your period of grace with me is coming to an end. Unless you provide this list with an adequate - at my discretion - explanation of these discrepancies in your arguments, I will cause a formal complaint against you to be filed with the US department of justice for running a freenet node and thereby knowingly distributing illegal material. What all this boils down to is that, following a formal complaint, the US department of justice will only have two options: to prosecute you or to not prosecute you. If it fails to prosecute you, it will be setting a precedent very useful to freenet. If it does prosecute you, all freenet operators will be able to benefit from your defence in the case, no matter whether you finally get convicted or acquitted. The way I see it, both alternatives are good for freenet. You and your employer are just about to become tools for the promotion of freenet's goals. The lack of honesty and integrity on the part of both yourself and your employer is no hindrance to this. Taking all this into account, I would suggest that you talk with your boss and decide on a strategy. You can create some rather impressive FUD by going to prison, or you can drop the FUD and acknowledge that the operation of freenet nodes is not illegal. It's your call. I will wait 18 hours from the time stamp of this mail and then act. Sincerely, ZP ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [freenet-support] (no subject)
The sixth amendment is the right to a public and speedy trial, the right to call witnesses, and the right to counsel. The fourth amendment is the protection against unreasonable searches and seizures. And I've never suggested we ditch or add anything. Laws preventing you from transmitting illegal material are already on the books and have been affirmed many times. PS: Bounced to chat as per toad's request -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 12:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [freenet-support] (no subject) Importance: Low I'd think the sixth admendment (protection from unreasionable search and seizure) helps people get away with crimes all the time. Should we ditch that too? ~Paul On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 11:55:58 -0400 (EDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ignorance is not a defense and nor should it be. If it was it would be almost impossible to arrest anyone. All you would need to do is have someone ask you to do it beforehand. Someone asks you to hold their box of drugs. Oh but you didn't know what was in the box it must be a big mistake. Someone asks you to help him into his locked house. Oh but you didn't know that it wasn't his house. Someone asks you to hide him from the cops. I guess it's alright because you didn't know he committed a crime. If you allow people to hide behind the fact that they simply didn't know with 100% certainty that what they were doing was a crime no one would ever be guilty. It's called personal responsibility, if your doing something it's up to you to ensure its legal. Someone that has drug deals happen in his yard does have a defense. He didn't let them. If he had said 'Sure come on in and use my yard to deal drugs' (like when you run a freenet node) then he would be guilty. Ignoring an obvious crime is not a crime, you can watch someone get shot and killed if you wanted. Ignoring your obvious crime however is quite punishable. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 5:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [freenet-support] (no subject) Importance: Low On 5 Aug 2004 04:42:44 [EMAIL PROTECTED]| (Matthew Findley) writes | Let me see if I can get caught up on whats gone on since I left work. | First I should probably clear this up. I am not a lawyer. I work at the | U.S. Attoreny's Office yes; but, only as a clerk. So nothing I say is | legal advice, the postion of the DOJ, to be considered an offical | interpretation of the laws, ect In other words, you were reprimanded at work for stirring up shit from an @usdoj.gov email address and now it's time to interject the disclaimers. If you weren't yet, you will be. I've been in a similar position, though not quite exactly the same, I made the same mistake, using a uniform email address in a civilian conversation, and I've felt the heat for it. On the one hand, I sympathize with you. Why would Anonymous issue an apology? Because even Anonymous can and perhaps will be identified via linguistic analysis, though I've done my best to pervert this message in such a manner that it cannot be connected with its author. On the other hand, I must assert that whomever initiated or will initiate the stink, it didn't start or won't start with me. Although, believe me, I have considered it since your first post to this list from an official address, and long before the current thread was borne. You go on to state | Let me put it this way. When you all fire up your nodes you know there | is a very strong likelyhood that it will end up houseing and transmiting | illegal material, correct? I would ask Who is 'you all'? and I would posit that the response is not 'correct.' (I would also insert a 'you people' and 'H Perot' reference, but that would be controversial and too demonstrable of knowledge of U.S. politics, no?) Freenet is comprised of a wide variety of users. Many of those users whom have been and continue to remain early adopters of Freenet are those same people what were and continue to be early adopters of other emerging technologies. They're in it for the tech, they're in it for the ideals, they're in it to support the ability of oppressed citizenries (I must wonder if that now applies to you in the States?) to have the continued freedom to express their ideas. And for fuck's sakes, some of them are just in it for the challenge of programming something new in Java. More to a point, there are Freenet node operators what have no idea that they may end up storing or transmitting illicit material. There are Freenet node operators what have been convinced by acquaintances to try out a new software program, one which is at the bleeding edge of networking, one which hopes to offer anonymity to its
[freenet-support] On topic message
Why do my messages keep show up as double posts in the archive? I'm only sending it to the email address for the group only once One shows up as something like [freenet-support] Showdown at the Freenode Coral and the other just as Showdown at the Freenode Coral ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [freenet-support] (no subject)
Ignorance is not a defense and nor should it be. If it was it would be almost impossible to arrest anyone. All you would need to do is have someone ask you to do it beforehand. Someone asks you to hold their box of drugs. Oh but you didn't know what was in the box it must be a big mistake. Someone asks you to help him into his locked house. Oh but you didn't know that it wasn't his house. Someone asks you to hide him from the cops. I guess it's alright because you didn't know he committed a crime. If you allow people to hide behind the fact that they simply didn't know with 100% certainty that what they were doing was a crime no one would ever be guilty. It's called personal responsibility, if your doing something it's up to you to ensure its legal. Someone that has drug deals happen in his yard does have a defense. He didn't let them. If he had said 'Sure come on in and use my yard to deal drugs' (like when you run a freenet node) then he would be guilty. Ignoring an obvious crime is not a crime, you can watch someone get shot and killed if you wanted. Ignoring your obvious crime however is quite punishable. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 5:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [freenet-support] (no subject) Importance: Low On 5 Aug 2004 04:42:44 [EMAIL PROTECTED]| (Matthew Findley) writes | Let me see if I can get caught up on whats gone on since I left work. | First I should probably clear this up. I am not a lawyer. I work at the | U.S. Attoreny's Office yes; but, only as a clerk. So nothing I say is | legal advice, the postion of the DOJ, to be considered an offical | interpretation of the laws, ect In other words, you were reprimanded at work for stirring up shit from an @usdoj.gov email address and now it's time to interject the disclaimers. If you weren't yet, you will be. I've been in a similar position, though not quite exactly the same, I made the same mistake, using a uniform email address in a civilian conversation, and I've felt the heat for it. On the one hand, I sympathize with you. Why would Anonymous issue an apology? Because even Anonymous can and perhaps will be identified via linguistic analysis, though I've done my best to pervert this message in such a manner that it cannot be connected with its author. On the other hand, I must assert that whomever initiated or will initiate the stink, it didn't start or won't start with me. Although, believe me, I have considered it since your first post to this list from an official address, and long before the current thread was borne. You go on to state | Let me put it this way. When you all fire up your nodes you know there | is a very strong likelyhood that it will end up houseing and transmiting | illegal material, correct? I would ask Who is 'you all'? and I would posit that the response is not 'correct.' (I would also insert a 'you people' and 'H Perot' reference, but that would be controversial and too demonstrable of knowledge of U.S. politics, no?) Freenet is comprised of a wide variety of users. Many of those users whom have been and continue to remain early adopters of Freenet are those same people what were and continue to be early adopters of other emerging technologies. They're in it for the tech, they're in it for the ideals, they're in it to support the ability of oppressed citizenries (I must wonder if that now applies to you in the States?) to have the continued freedom to express their ideas. And for fuck's sakes, some of them are just in it for the challenge of programming something new in Java. More to a point, there are Freenet node operators what have no idea that they may end up storing or transmitting illicit material. There are Freenet node operators what have been convinced by acquaintances to try out a new software program, one which is at the bleeding edge of networking, one which hopes to offer anonymity to its users, and what have installed Freenet to this very end. There are Freenet node operators what run a node but don't make any use of its existance. There are Freenet node operators what run a node simply because they have a machine with a nice linkup and a friend what asked a favor of them. You made a statement | The fact is that everyone knows there lots of illegal stuff floating | around freenet, and one can simply not avoid responsibility for a | crime by deliberately ignoring what is obvious. Although I'm not under your jurisdiction, I live in a country what seems to have a keen and cooperative eye on what the States consider to be the latest incarnation of Truth and Justice. As such this statement makes my skin crawl on its end. Even more so that it was made from an official of the Department of U.S. Justice. You are saying that a resident of a disadvantaged community has no defense that a drugs deal was committed in his yard, because he
RE: [freenet-support] RE: anonymity(NOT)
The USPS is a business (well not technically... but it's close enough to call it that for now) that's purpose is to deliver mail. It can not be held accountable if someone uses it's service illegally with out its knowledge. You as an individual are accountable if you do something illegal; especially so if you had reason to believe you were doing something illegal in the first place. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 7:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [freenet-support] RE: anonymity(NOT) Importance: Low On 5 Aug 2004, at 04:42, Matthew Findley wrote: Let me put it this way. When you all fire up your nodes you know there is a very strong likelyhood that it will end up houseing and transmiting illegal material, correct? So you know your computer will be doing something illegal and yet choose to do it anyway simply because you can not see it. That is willful blindness and is not a defense that will stand up in court. If that was true then the postal system would be in trouble, since I am sure most people within the USPS acknowledge that illegal materials (such as child pornography) are probably transmitted through the postal system, yet they do not open every letter and every package to prevent this from occurring, nor are they expected to. Ian. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [freenet-support] RE: anonymity(NOT)
And as I explained one does not need 100% certain knowledge of a crime to fit the legal requirement of knowing. It only needs to be proven that you had a good reason to suspect that it is so. The very fact that we're having this conversation or the fact that it's in the FAQ on the site is more then enough to prove you had knowledge that a crime is taking place. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 12:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [freenet-support] RE: anonymity(NOT) Importance: Low On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 09:20:24 -0400 (EDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you run a freenet node you know it's doing something illegal No. I've already explained this to you. Short memory? Do you get paid to post FUD? ___/ _/ -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [freenet-support] RE: anonymity(NOT)
Ok. As for your business. I'm not totally sure how it works, businesses really aren't my thing, but as long as you stated that you'd be running freenet as part of your business and they rubber stamped it you should be ok. As for everyone else though Here's something that may help illustrate my point better. Its the definition of criminal facilitation. http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/nycodes/c82/a25.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 2:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [freenet-support] RE: anonymity(NOT) Importance: Low Can we continue this on chat? I would bounce all the messages there but I don't know a quick way to bounce a message and reset the reply-to. On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 12:25:05PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The USPS is a business (well not technically... but it's close enough to call it that for now) that's purpose is to deliver mail. It can not be held accountable if someone uses it's service illegally with out its knowledge. You as an individual are accountable if you do something illegal; especially so if you had reason to believe you were doing something illegal in the first place. I am a business, called Amphibian Computer Services. At least for tax purposes. -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [freenet-support] anonymity(NOT)
As for the uploader Willful blindness can not protect you if it can be shown that you had a reasonable suspicion to believe they you are committing a crime. In fact in some cases a deliberate attempt to not obtain knowledge is proof of that knowledge. As for the downloader While true, the mere act of downloading contraband will probably not land you in jail by itself. It is however most likely sufficient evidence to obtain a warrant and if you really are downloading kiddy porn you will end up in jail. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 8:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [freenet-support] anonymity(NOT) Importance: Low miguel wrote: Just wondering... with all this encryption permeating Freenet there remains a gaping hole through which the nazi's could saunter through with their spy tools and legal bypasses to incriminate any and all Freenetters they choose to incriminate... the ip address/port# of all. Even using a third party dns service wouldn't help. Maybe not this day, but in light of current trends in government policies, in the not-too-distant future they will be slipping in and snagging whomever they choose by the ip address and will thus render useless all Freenet anonymity measures. Is there not a way to spoof the ip addresses, or mask the ip addresses so that our uncles and big brothers can't come in and bring down the house(s)? But the IP where a request originates and the IP of the machine where a requested file is stored *are* masked by the proxying system. Assume I'm the Gestapo and I'm running one or several freenet nodes and logging everything that goes on. I see a request coming from your IP. I can't figure what is being requested, because the key is encrypted. I can't figure who requested it, because your machine might be - and probably is - proxying the request for some other node. Unless the requested file is served from my own node, all I can do is pass on the request to yet another node and I'll never know which node or nodes finally served the file. Now, if I'm not the Gestapo but something much worse, like, say, Homeland Security, I could monitor the traffic of my peers in order to discover their peers and then monitor their traffic too until I have a good picture of the entire network. Traffic analysis might help me figure who made a request and who served it, but I still have to break encryption before I can figure which file that request concerned. Being the almighty Homeland Security, I do break the encryption. Fine, now I know that X requested kiddie porn and Y served it. However, I can't get anyone prosecuted for this. Y is going to deny - quite truthfully - that he knew that he was serving kiddie porn, X is going to claim that he just clicked on a link not knowing what it was and was appalled to find out, and I will have disclosed that I have broken freenet. That last part is the worst, because then all the leftists, the anti-globalists, the anti-war pack and other such terrorists will know to not use freenet any more. Of course, the same will happen if I get freenet forbidden: then the entire world will keep using it, except my local gulag population, which is the easiest one for me to monitor. Thus, I have to let freenet live and let the kiddie porn pass and concentrate on finding out who inserts subversive propaganda against our Beloved Leader. Or something like that. The real and ever-present danger against freenet is not in your IP being shown to your peers. It is in (a) the integrity of its developers and (b) in the security of the software archive. If the latter ever gets compromised, we might all end up running a piece of Big Broher-owned spyware called freenet. Z -- Framtiden är som en babianröv, färggrann och full av skit. Arne Anka ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [freenet-support] anonymity(NOT)
They do have a choice, nothing is forcing them to run freenet. It doesn't matter that they can't see exactly what their node is doing, but only the fact that they know what their node is probably doing. If someone gives you a package in Mexico and ask you to carry it across the boarder. You do so and customs finds it full of drugs. It doesn't matter that you didn't see what was in there or even if it was locked and you couldn't see what was in there. All that matters is that a reasonable person would know what's in there. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 1:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [freenet-support] anonymity(NOT) Importance: Low On 4 Aug 2004, at 15:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote As for the uploader Willful blindness can not protect you if it can be shown that you had a reasonable suspicion to believe they you are committing a crime. In fact in some cases a deliberate attempt to not obtain knowledge is proof of that knowledge. Its an interesting question; can it be willful blindness if you don't have a choice? It isn't that people choose not to see the information, its that they can't. Now perhaps they don't want to either, but it is hard to see how someone can be said to willfully avoid doing something they couldn't do if they wanted to. Ian. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [freenet-support] anonymity(NOT)
I wasn't aware of any cases where they hadn't had victory As for the INDUCE act (from what I've read) it applies to the creation of products used for illegal activities. It would make it against the law to create a product that's primary use is also against the law. In other words, it would outlaw iyour/i willful blindness about what freenet is really used for. It wouldn't just criminalize freenet, but it would criminalize you even making it. I'm very much against this law by the way. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 2:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [freenet-support] anonymity(NOT) Importance: Low On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 10:22:41AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for the uploader Willful blindness can not protect you if it can be shown that you had a reasonable suspicion to believe they you are committing a crime. In fact in some cases a deliberate attempt to not obtain knowledge is proof of that knowledge. That is unclear. Otherwise the recent P2P cases where the RIAA has not achieved victory would not have happened. This is precisely why they need INDUCE to pass (which probably WOULD criminalize Freenet). As for the downloader While true, the mere act of downloading contraband will probably not land you in jail by itself. It is however most likely sufficient evidence to obtain a warrant and if you really are downloading kiddy porn you will end up in jail. -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [freenet-support] anonymity(NOT)
That's because ISPs/Mail are protected by common carrier laws, you are not. They pass laws that specifically say that if a company is incorporated as a common carrier, then the items (or data) they transport aren't their responsibility. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 2:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [freenet-support] anonymity(NOT) Importance: Low On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 14:35:00 -0400 (EDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They do have a choice, nothing is forcing them to run freenet. It doesn't matter that they can't see exactly what their node is doing, but only the fact that they know what their node is probably doing. If someone gives you a package in Mexico and ask you to carry it across the boarder. You do so and customs finds it full of drugs. It doesn't matter that you didn't see what was in there or even if it was locked and you couldn't see what was in there. All that matters is that a reasonable person would know what's in there. FUD - since Freenet has other legitimate uses. We don't prosecute ISPs even though we _know_ with 100% certainty that some of the groups contain childporn. We don't prosecute car manufacturers even though we _know_ with 100% certainty that some cars will be used to transport drugs over national borders. We don't prosecute postal offices even though we know with 100% certainty that some packages contain childporn and some contain drugs. No one running a Freenet node _knows_ with 100% certainty that he/she is trafficking anything illegal. On the other hand, I don't live in the Fascist states of America. (See link for explanation) http://troed.se/index.php?subaction=showcommentsid=1091214452 regards, Troed -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [freenet-support] anonymity(NOT)
That's the systems themselves. Freenet itself is perfectly legal, so are guns. But that doesn't give you the freedom to do what ever you want with them. You can't upload/download kiddy porn just like you can't go around shooting people. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 2:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [freenet-support] anonymity(NOT) Importance: Low IANAL but there HAVE been recent US cases where major P2P systems have been found not to be in violation of the law. Otherwise INDUCE would be unnecessary. On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 02:35:00PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They do have a choice, nothing is forcing them to run freenet. It doesn't matter that they can't see exactly what their node is doing, but only the fact that they know what their node is probably doing. If someone gives you a package in Mexico and ask you to carry it across the boarder. You do so and customs finds it full of drugs. It doesn't matter that you didn't see what was in there or even if it was locked and you couldn't see what was in there. All that matters is that a reasonable person would know what's in there. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 1:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [freenet-support] anonymity(NOT) Importance: Low On 4 Aug 2004, at 15:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote As for the uploader Willful blindness can not protect you if it can be shown that you had a reasonable suspicion to believe they you are committing a crime. In fact in some cases a deliberate attempt to not obtain knowledge is proof of that knowledge. Its an interesting question; can it be willful blindness if you don't have a choice? It isn't that people choose not to see the information, its that they can't. Now perhaps they don't want to either, but it is hard to see how someone can be said to willfully avoid doing something they couldn't do if they wanted to. Ian. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [freenet-support] anonymity(NOT)
I'm not sure where your 'village' is but here it works much the same way actually. But the problem is that there is no machine that can just tell us what your intent was. So what your intent was has to be inferred from your actions and your knowledge. The fact is that everyone knows there lots of illegal stuff floating around freenet, and one can simply not avoid responsibility for a crime by deliberately ignoring what is obvious. So even though you didn't want to transmit kiddy porn you made the choice to run a freenet node fully aware that it could and would result in KP being distributed. That right there is enough to establish intent. As for why ISPs, Mail carriers, Bus, and others aren't reasonable is because they are common carriers and protected by law. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 3:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [freenet-support] anonymity(NOT) Importance: Low [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for the uploader Willful blindness can not protect you if it can be shown that you had a reasonable suspicion to believe they you are committing a crime. In fact in some cases a deliberate attempt to not obtain knowledge is proof of that knowledge. In my village, intent to commit an illegal act is a prerequisite to the committment of that act constituting a penal offence. Additionally, not preventing others from committing penal offences is not an offence in itself. The mere fact that you unknowingly and unintentionally facilitate the transfer of illegal material cannot be construed as an intentional active participation in that transfer. If it could, then every single ISP would be in jail because they all provide facilities which can be used and are actually used for the transfer of illegal material and they all damn well know that plenty of illegal material gets transferred through their systems along with the legal. As long as a system can and is meant to be used legally, you can't go after the provider of the system just because some abuse also occurs. At least here, we don't arrest the bus driver who happened to drive a drug dealer to his drop-off point. We don't jail the postman who happened to deliver a package with stolen goods to a fence, even though the postman damn well knows that, among all the packets he delivers, here are bound to be some with illegal content. And so on. Let me also remind you that the uploader on freenet is too complicated a term to be used as loosely as you do. The fact that a file is served from my system does not mean that I put it there. Nor does it mean that it will still be there next week when some over-zealous junior prosecutor raids me. And it certainly doesn't mean that I am obliged to check every byte that other people (or the system) put on my machine before I allow it to be put there. With your definition of the uploader, every owner of every forum and blog and news server and mail server on or through which something illegal got posted, would be headed for jail. Of course, YMMV. In countries where the law hardly matters, where money buys acquittals and where prosecutors work to get convictions rather than justice, irrespective of actual guilt, you might find yourself in a sore spot no matter that what you did might have been fully legal. As for the downloader While true, the mere act of downloading contraband will probably not land you in jail by itself. It is however most likely sufficient evidence to obtain a warrant and if you really are downloading kiddy porn you will end up in jail. You are now assuming (a) that Big Brother has cracked freenet and (b) that he doesn't care if that fact gets known and (c) that a search warrant will yield more evidence than traffic monitoring did. None of this needs be true and any one out of three is enough to keep you out of jail, provided that traffic monitoring didn't already provide sufficient evidence for a conviction, in which case a warrant and a search are superfluous. Z -- Framtiden är som en babianröv, färggrann och full av skit. Arne Anka ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Freenet Down!
I see your point, but we are working in a collaborative environment, and the node ops time is important too. Maybe less that the core developers one, but still important. This is the Stable release, and 5087 is crap^h^h^h^h er... unworkable. ... the user too deserve some attention when commiting code . JM2C. Ciao. Marco P.S. I'm a bit tired of the ...this is still [beta|alfa|omega] code as a catch all answer. If someone is rude, unpolite or simply wrong, ignore it or give him the respose that he need. Another cent On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 05:01, Nicholas Sturm wrote: Oh, come now. Does not anyone remember that a version number below 1.00 or a variation there of means developmental. As long as any software is developmental it means failures of a new version is almost certain. Even multi-billion companies can seldom produce software that runs on every machine. I can think of one rather large company that can't (won't) even try to make software work if you run anything but their software on a freshly install machine. Need I say who that company is? miguel wrote: For the first time since I started Freenet some 10 months ago it has failed! Build 5085 was fine. 5086... trash. Downhill. It would not find even YoYo, plus, it would just disconnect after 4 or 5 hours. This is a first for me since I usually run Freenet for days without a restart. Enter 5087. THe last time 5086 disconnected I went to my web interface and I found 5087. Great! I'll update and these problems with 5086 will be fixed. Fat chance. Now Freenet won't even connect, period! Log file: Jul 27, 2004 5:21:34 PM (freenet.node.Main, main, ERROR): Caught java.lang.OutOfMemoryError running or seeding node java.lang.OutOfMemoryError This is a first for me. A rollback to 5085 is in order. Danke! (Do I need to polish my German a bit and go to Entropy?) Ich denke das ist nicht sehr gut. Auf wiedersehn Freenet? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- + il Progetto Freenet - segui il coniglio bianco+ * the Freenet Project - follow the white rabbit* * Marco A. Calamari[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.marcoc.it* * PGP RSA: ED84 3839 6C4D 3FFE 389F 209E 3128 5698 * + DSS/DH: 8F3E 5BAE 906F B416 9242 1C10 8661 24A9 BFCE 822B + signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Development system
i suppose the heavy cpu usage arises because the node tries to contact all nodes it knows. this of course won't work as it is not connected to the internet. a solution would be to delete the routing table so it doesn't even know of other nodes and it cannot try to contact them which will result in a nice, fast booting and completely isolated local node for your tests: - stop the freenet node - cd into the freenet directory - delete the files: ls* ngrt* rt* seednodes.ref - start the node HTH if you want to re-integrate the node again download the seednodes.ref (or the .bz'ed version) from http://freenetprogect.org/snapshots/ dunno, but it might be necessary to delete ls* rt* ngrt* again for the node to reseed itself. then again maybe it will reseed automatically from the seednodes file if it has too few noderefs. PS: why OS/2 runs so much smoother is still a miracle... could be because OS/2's network subroutines are better programmed than the ones in windoze or because the node bugs on OS/2 and does not try to connect the known nodes or some other reason Hello, I have two computers. An old stationary system which runs OS/2, and a new laptop which runs WinXP because NetBSD won't run on it (yet)). I only have a pay-per-minute dial-up line so I'm not running a permanent node. Anyhow... I have written a couple of fcp tools in Rexx and in C, and without having a freenet node it would be somewhat difficult to test them, so I start Freenet without any internet connection. On my OS/2 system I get a few messages about my node being transient, and something about ipAddress - but it runs without any problems after that. If I try to launch the Freenet node on my XP system without an internet connection, the CPU usage bumps up to 100%, and the node seems VERY busy doing nothing. The air coming out of my laptop becomes very hot after a short while. The whole laptop becomes way to warm for comfort after a minute or two. So; how do start Freenet on my non-internet-connected Windows system without it eating up all my CPU resources? Using latest stable build on both systems. Kind regards, Jan M. Danielsson Use subject 'pgpkey' to receive my public PGP key. PGP Public Key Fingerprint= 43C8 4C46 18C3 2366 7B5B D72D 6818 D0FA CB96 5667 ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] max connections not chagning
I'm using the latest freenet client on win98se (don't say anything ;p) and Java 1.42, and I can't get the maximum connections to work properly. I set my max connections to 75, and my max threads to 200, but when I access my node and look at the open connections page, it says that 40 is still my max connections. Any suggestions? on win98 FRED (the freenet daemon you're running) limits the maximum connections it uses always down to a max of 40 because win98 is unable to have more than ~80 connections open at all. as i've got win98se too, i stopped trying and switched to a *real* operating system like .. (not starting a flamebait here ;) so either forget it or live with the 40 connections (or install yourself an OS) HTH ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [freenet-support] Norton Firewall
1) Find the IP address of my NAT or Firewall. The FAQ says to consult my manual but I can't find this information. check http://www.whatismyip.com/ it displays your ip from their POV which is the IP the freenet nodes have to use. if your ISP dispconnects you every-so-often and you therefore have a changing ip check out servides like http://www.no-ip.com/ or http://www.dyndns.com/ which will create a static name for your dynamic ip. then you have to update your freenet.ini/conf to use this NAME instead of a fixed ip value (i think my statement is correct) 2) Configure your NAT or firewall to forward connections to the listenPort number that you noted in the previous step, to the same port on your computer. I tried some things that seemed to work but I just want to make sure I'm doing it exactly right and not letting more than I need to through my firewall. check the NAT's documentation about port forwarding. you have to forward external_ip:freenet_port to internal_ip:freenet_port where external_ip is the one whatismyip.com gave you and internal_ip is the ip of your computer running freenet from within the LAN, freenet_port is the listenport= value from freenet.ini/conf HTH ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [freenet-support] messageSendTimeRequest
H for some reason I didn't think it showed the domain in the email address (else I might have used hotmail), though looking back I'm not quite sure where I got that idea from.. I personally work at the US Attorneys Office which does the prosecution rather then the investigation, and while the USAO would head up any investigation into arresting individuals it would be the FBI that would actually do the work to identify the users. So I'm just looking into freenet to satisfy my own personal interest. Also now while I can't comment (for obvious reasons) on possible investigations the office might be conducting, I can give you my personal opinion. I believe that freenet is still relatively safe from the recent crackdown on P2P child porn. Not because it can't be done, but simply because its just not as easy to ID offenders as on other networks. Networks like gnutella and kazza will literally give you a list of people committing a crime where as freenet would make you work for it. Its a simple cost benefit analysis. In the time it would take to prepare a case against a freenet user one could charge many times more kazza users (with the added benefit of not having to explain complex traffic analysis to a jury hehe). Right now, I think the most likely people to be snooping on freenet is @nsa.gov Again, this is just my personal opinion and does not reflect in anyway the US Attorneys Office. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 8:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [freenet-support] messageSendTimeRequest Importance: Low Out of curiosity, is the U.S. Department of Justice interested in freenet? When I see from @usdoj.gov in an email address, it really makes me wonder. Might the DOJ be interested in going after people for use of freenet or something? Considering the level of anonymity and such, I don't think anything would happen. But maybe just scoping things out? I could be completely wrong and perhaps someone at the DOJ is using freenet personally and using his government work email address for the mailing list, although I would tend to think that is somewhat irregular though who knows. Though I can think of more scary domains to be getting mail from... @cia.gov, @fbi.gov. Just an element of curiosity on my part. Any comments anyone? On May 28, 2004, at 10:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My node is almost constantly overloaded because messageSendTimeRequest exceeds successfulSendTimeCutoff by a significant amount. The messageSendTimeRequest likes to hang around 4000ms. Now I've observed that the messageSendTimeRequest seems to be tied the amount of data waiting to be transferred so I've tried to tweak the settings to reduce the amount of data that is going out of my node. Reducing the number of max connections, reducing the chance of cache, and other little things. But they don't seem to be able to bring it down. The only thing I can figure is that my node just looks too good to pass up (I have a really good upstream), and the other nodes just really like to request from my node and end up overloading me. So is there anything I can do to reduce the load? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [freenet-support] messageSendTimeRequest
Sorry for my late reply I was out of town most of last week. The newest build seems to have fix the problem with it almost always being overloaded, but it still is getting overloaded by this by a lot. It will get overloaded stay that way for about 5 mins then fall below the threshold and start accepting connections again for about 5 mins till it shoots back up and is overloaded again and restarts the cycle. Its been up for 10.5 hours, I had to copy the info out piece by piece to get it so sorry if it looks different (the firewall here doesn't like port so I have to use a telnet prompt to get to my machine and dump the info with a program I wrote...) Current routingTime:0ms Current messageSendTimeRequest: 4741ms Pooled threads running jobs:71 (47.3%) Pooled threads which are idle: 14 Reason for refusing connections:avgMessageSendTimeRequest(4741.311) successfulSendTimeCutoff(3000.000) Current estimated load for QueryReject purposes:47% Current estimated load for rate limiting: 237% Reason for load: Load due to thread limit: 47.3% Load due to routingTime:3.3% = 100ms / 3000ms = overloadLow (100%) Load due to messageSendTimeRequest: 237% = 4741ms / 2000ms overloadLow (100%) Load due to expected inbound transfers: 3.4% because 143028.4384083343 req/hr * 0.001058914944006 (pTransfer) * 291384.0 bytes = 44131549 bytes/hr maxInputBytes/minute = 19509360 (max observed bytes per minute) * 60 * 1.1 = 1287617760 bytes/hr target Estimated external pSearchFailed (based only on QueryRejections due to load): 0.499004276735748 Current estimated requests per hour (based on last 10 mins):42216.705203521495 Current global quota (requests per hour): 40460.32455491089 Highest seen bytes downloaded in one minute:19509360 Current outgoing request rate: 143028.4384083343 Current probability of a request succeeding:0.4% Current target (best case single node) probability of a request succeeding: 6.5% -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 5:59 PM To: Findley, Matthew; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [freenet-support] messageSendTimeRequest Importance: Low On Fri, May 28, 2004 at 01:13:01PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My node is almost constantly overloaded because messageSendTimeRequest exceeds successfulSendTimeCutoff by a significant amount. The messageSendTimeRequest likes to hang around 4000ms. Now I've observed that the messageSendTimeRequest seems to be tied the amount of data waiting to be transferred so I've tried to tweak the settings to reduce the amount of data that is going out of my node. Reducing the number of max connections, reducing the chance of cache, and other little things. But they don't seem to be able to bring it down. The only thing I can figure is that my node just looks too good to pass up (I have a really good upstream), and the other nodes just really like to request from my node and end up overloading me. So is there anything I can do to reduce the load? Okay, this is wierd. You running stable, I assume? Can you send me the output of your General infolet? http://127.0.0.1:/servlet/nodeinfo/performance/general How long has the node been running? -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Mascotte! :-)
i thought we had one !? he/she/it's called Hops; the visual appearance has been attached as an image as described by innocent bystanding witnesses On Thu, 3 Jun 2004 17:48:20 +0200, Newsbyte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tell me what you think about it: http://www.freenethelp.org/bux He looks stoned. A bit like Freenet itself - nice :) ___/ _/ -- http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 68bgBlack.jpg___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Re: Mascotte! :-)
oups - i did not intend to demotivate you! the pic i posted was from the old (-er?) freenet website. it has been an ad for a t-shirt you could have bought (and i still wished i had), so it's no official mascot in any way. and i don't think the HG will take offence if someone renews or (re)invents a mascot for the project! i bet they'll rather be proud ;) and, yeah, a bunny on dope would fit much more with the project *g* well, maybe there comes a good time when it's on crack hrmnm.. would have been a topic for chat i thought we had one !? he/she/it's called Hops; the visual appearance has been attached as an image as described by innocent bystanding witnesses Well, shite! What the? Not much advertising must have gone into that, because I had no idea there already was a bunny. :-( I think mine is more funny, though. Ah well... I thought about refining mine and proposing it as the official freenetbunny, but I guess the Higher Gods will never agree, now. Can as well throw it in the recycling-bin. :-/ ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] messageSendTimeRequest
My node is almost constantly overloaded because messageSendTimeRequest exceeds successfulSendTimeCutoff by a significant amount. The messageSendTimeRequest likes to hang around 4000ms. Now I've observed that the messageSendTimeRequest seems to be tied the amount of data waiting to be transferred so I've tried to tweak the settings to reduce the amount of data that is going out of my node. Reducing the number of max connections, reducing the chance of cache, and other little things. But they don't seem to be able to bring it down. The only thing I can figure is that my node just looks too good to pass up (I have a really good upstream), and the other nodes just really like to request from my node and end up overloading me. So is there anything I can do to reduce the load? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Connecting to a non-transient freenet server in a dmz from a dhcp freenet client behind the firewall
Hello, I have a linux server that I want to run freenet on as a non-transient server hanging off a dsl line. I'd like to use the windows freenet client on a dhcp client as a transient client so that it only goes to the linux freenet server. E.g. a freenet proxy server if you will. Would anyone have any idea how to configure either or both serers to that end. Any help appreciated! Thanks T ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] Duplicated references
In the current unstable seednodes there are 313 references, but only 162 unique nodes. Of the 162, a lot are artifacts leaved by updating or changing port. Can this be a problem, considering the current hight reseeding frequency ? FWIW. Marco -- + il Progetto Freenet - segui il coniglio bianco+ * the Freenet Project - follow the white rabbit* * Marco A. Calamari[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.marcoc.it* * PGP RSA: ED84 3839 6C4D 3FFE 389F 209E 3128 5698 * + DSS/DH: 8F3E 5BAE 906F B416 9242 1C10 8661 24A9 BFCE 822B + signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] update.sh always overwrites seednodes.ref
On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 13:32, Toad wrote: The routing table will not be overwritten unless either: a) The seednodes.ref is more recent than the routing table OR b) The routing table is trashed, for example because all the nodes in it are incompatible with the current code after a network reset. In the a) case, the RT is fully overwritten or appended ? -- + il Progetto Freenet - segui il coniglio bianco+ * the Freenet Project - follow the white rabbit* * Marco A. Calamari[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.marcoc.it* * PGP RSA: ED84 3839 6C4D 3FFE 389F 209E 3128 5698 * + DSS/DH: 8F3E 5BAE 906F B416 9242 1C10 8661 24A9 BFCE 822B + signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] Re: Freenet haiku errmm
On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 17:40, Toad wrote: On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 09:27:06AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Insertion on unstable are more or less working; it start working again one month ago. The performance varied from no retries, 4 hours to insert a medium-size freesite, to 4 retries-40 hours overall lenght. Insertion on stable are almost impossible since october; I had just one success, but the site was irretrievable. Toad pointed that poor performance can depend from the small size of unstable; I'm interested in know more about this statement. I had exactly the opposite sensation; that stable is far smaller that unstable ... No, stable is huuuge. At least 690 nodes. Comparing, how many unstable ones ??? -- + il Progetto Freenet - segui il coniglio bianco+ * the Freenet Project - follow the white rabbit* * Marco A. Calamari[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.marcoc.it* * PGP RSA: ED84 3839 6C4D 3FFE 389F 209E 3128 5698 * + DSS/DH: 8F3E 5BAE 906F B416 9242 1C10 8661 24A9 BFCE 822B + signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support
RE: [freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Please help: seednode sources
i have seen some stable nodes with connections to unstable nodes, unstable nodes with connections to stable nodes, seednodes for stable nodes with unstable references, seednodes for unstable nodes with stable references, you get the idea. why are stable nodes connecting AT ALL to unstable nodes and vice versa? they use incompatible protocols IIRC, so why should they even *try* to connect to incompatible nodes?!? why not have some sanity checks when importing seed files or adding node refs to the routing table? we'll all be luckier with this and in the long run the generated seednode files are much less polluted (why aren't they filtered after retrieving and combining for the official seednodes ?!?) *scratches head* i see no sense in the current noderef politics. I am running stable with 5058. I got the new node set at 5054, but I'm not at all sure those node are all stable (have my doubts). [Original Message] From: Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1/14/2004 3:16:32 PM Subject: [freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Please help: seednode sources It appears several nodes in the unstable list are running stable, and several nodes in the stable list are running unstable. Would ALL persons whose nodes are currently used as seednode sources please contact me and tell me the URL and which branch it is currently running please. On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 08:08:07PM +, Toad wrote: We need more sources of seednodes for the new stable branch. Please mail me with the URL to fetch seednodes from. It must be accessible from dodo.freenetproject.org (by IP), but it need not be visible to the rest of the internet. You can do this by setting: mainport.allowedHosts=127.0.0.0/8,212.13.198.248 in your freenet.conf. Note that this technically means that we can browse through your node and break your anonymity, so you may want to do it on nodes you don't use for important browsing :) -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support
Re: [freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Please help: seednode sources
why not have some sanity checks when importing seed files or adding node = refs to the routing table? we'll all be luckier with this and in the long r= un the generated seednode files are much less polluted (why aren't=20 We do. oh, good :) then wrong noderefs can only slip into the rt when the local rt already has these bad references (e.g. when switching von unstable-stable or the other way around without purging the rt) or when importing new seednodes which contain these bad refs. would it be useful if the local routing table would be checked on node startup if every ref is suited for the build? if there is such a check when adding refs while the node is running, then this check logic would be reusable at startup time, wouldn't it? they filtered after retrieving and combining for the official seednodes ?= !?) Because I didn't get around to it... i just remembered you asking Conrad Sabatier if he or someone else could write such a 'cleanup' script which removes lines from a seednode file not matching a regexp. i think thats a nice idea and would provide reliable seednodes... someone came around with this? ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support
