[freenet-support] FMS Woes
Definitely agree with the captchas problem. I was unable to announce my identity and gave up! Frost, though spammed right now is light years ahead usability wise. On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 6:39 PM, MyTwoCents wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I was going to just post this on my flog (which I did) but decided that > since I've no idea if any devs read it, I want to be certain that it gets > SOME actual notice by developer types and thus posted it here also > > I've been taking a bit of time lately to check in on 0.7 again and have > been trying out FMS. I have to say that while the idea is a good one, has > a few things that need to be addressed. Specifically the process of > announcing new identities has problems. > > 1) The capcha images themselves have absolutely GOT to be changed. > Because: "You must have at least 1 identity created and have received the > SSK keypair for it from Freenet before setting trust.", I cannot post > messages yet, I have been able to read a few, including one: > > Subject: Re: current CAPTCHAs suck > From: The Seeker at cI~w2hrvvyUa1E6PhJ9j5cCoG1xmxSooi7Nez4V2Gd4 > Date: Thu, 01 May 08 21:31:52 - > Message-ID: > cIw2hrvvyUa1E6PhJ9j5cCoG1xmxSooi7Nez4 > V2Gd4> > > That expresses the opinion that the captchas are more likely to be solved > by a program than a human. > > Having spent a few hours trying in vain to read the damn things, I have to > say that I wouldn't be surprized if that were true. Of course, I also > think that they were specifically designed to make life difficult for > people with vision impairments. > > The images need to be something that an actual human will have little to no > trouble reading them. Unfortunately, the graphic abortions that are in use > now are apparently impossible for me to read, since I've been "solving" > (not that I know if they're 'solved' or just wrong.) them for the better > part of a week now and have yet to get my identity announced. > > Which brings me to #2. > > How about some feedback? > > Specifically, when I "solve" a captcha, how about telling me if I got it > right or not? My thought, present captchas one at a time. Allow user to > fill in and submit. If incorrect, TELL THE USER!!!, then present them with > a new one. If it's correct, again TELL THE USER!!! then present them with > a new one. > > This business of sitting here going nearly blind trying to read faint, > almost invisible characters is bad enough, not even knowing if I actually > got one right is liable to make somebody homicidal. There's absolutely > ZERO reason for this to be a fargin guessing game! > > Frankly, if I ever get my hands on the > absolute-brain-dead-moron-studying-to-be-an-idiot-and-failing-miserably > that decided to use that kind of damn-near-invisible-characters-image I'm > going to print out 10,000 pages of them on plywood sheeds and make him eat > them while I beat him to death with my monitor! > > Can you tell I'm more than just casually frustrated here? Good! > > WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE FIX THE DAMNED CAPTCHAS ON FMS?!? > > The preceeding was written while frustrated and angry and then posted > anyway to make a point. > > - -- > My public keys can be found on my freenet site: > SSK at TEx6TiaPeszpV4AFw3ToutDb49EPAgM/mytwocents/62//m2ckey.html > (*NOTE* you must be running freenet for this link to be usefull) > and on public keyservers. Key-Id: 0x92769D7E > Fingerprint: 2F07D586C8D4EEA732711338CFEF46E592769D7E > I can be reached either by the NiM form on the freesite or by > Email: m2c AT nym.panta-rhei.eu.org > Frost: MyTwoCents at Z+59LNK9NhMvxewYggENU4Ww50s On the 0.5 Freenet board > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: N/A > > iQA/AwUBSCDgbJ5/ZUtfDwnNEQL29wCfW8gK6/+WA3h7bqnKxeIdzQ30GAcAn2ja > DbIHNfhKs12uZq8FvGYc340y > =l+8j > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > ___ > Support mailing list > Support at freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > -- Though I know that I know nothing.
Re: [freenet-support] FMS Woes
Definitely agree with the captchas problem. I was unable to announce my identity and gave up! Frost, though spammed right now is light years ahead usability wise. On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 6:39 PM, MyTwoCents [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I was going to just post this on my flog (which I did) but decided that since I've no idea if any devs read it, I want to be certain that it gets SOME actual notice by developer types and thus posted it here also I've been taking a bit of time lately to check in on 0.7 again and have been trying out FMS. I have to say that while the idea is a good one, has a few things that need to be addressed. Specifically the process of announcing new identities has problems. 1) The capcha images themselves have absolutely GOT to be changed. Because: You must have at least 1 identity created and have received the SSK keypair for it from Freenet before setting trust., I cannot post messages yet, I have been able to read a few, including one: Subject: Re: current CAPTCHAs suck From: The [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 01 May 08 21:31:52 - Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] V2Gd4 That expresses the opinion that the captchas are more likely to be solved by a program than a human. Having spent a few hours trying in vain to read the damn things, I have to say that I wouldn't be surprized if that were true. Of course, I also think that they were specifically designed to make life difficult for people with vision impairments. The images need to be something that an actual human will have little to no trouble reading them. Unfortunately, the graphic abortions that are in use now are apparently impossible for me to read, since I've been solving (not that I know if they're 'solved' or just wrong.) them for the better part of a week now and have yet to get my identity announced. Which brings me to #2. How about some feedback? Specifically, when I solve a captcha, how about telling me if I got it right or not? My thought, present captchas one at a time. Allow user to fill in and submit. If incorrect, TELL THE USER!!!, then present them with a new one. If it's correct, again TELL THE USER!!! then present them with a new one. This business of sitting here going nearly blind trying to read faint, almost invisible characters is bad enough, not even knowing if I actually got one right is liable to make somebody homicidal. There's absolutely ZERO reason for this to be a fargin guessing game! Frankly, if I ever get my hands on the absolute-brain-dead-moron-studying-to-be-an-idiot-and-failing-miserably that decided to use that kind of damn-near-invisible-characters-image I'm going to print out 10,000 pages of them on plywood sheeds and make him eat them while I beat him to death with my monitor! Can you tell I'm more than just casually frustrated here? Good! WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE FIX THE DAMNED CAPTCHAS ON FMS?!? The preceeding was written while frustrated and angry and then posted anyway to make a point. - -- My public keys can be found on my freenet site: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/mytwocents/62//m2ckey.html (*NOTE* you must be running freenet for this link to be usefull) and on public keyservers. Key-Id: 0x92769D7E Fingerprint: 2F07D586C8D4EEA732711338CFEF46E592769D7E I can be reached either by the NiM form on the freesite or by Email: m2c AT nym.panta-rhei.eu.org Frost: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On the 0.5 Freenet board -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: N/A iQA/AwUBSCDgbJ5/ZUtfDwnNEQL29wCfW8gK6/+WA3h7bqnKxeIdzQ30GAcAn2ja DbIHNfhKs12uZq8FvGYc340y =l+8j -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Though I know that I know nothing. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] vista
I have been using freenet on vista for ages.It works flawlessly. On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 5:04 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > On Wednesday 16 April 2008 10:37, you wrote: > > hi. > > can you use freenet with windows vista > > thanks. > > Probably, however no developer that I know of uses Vista, so support may be a > little difficult. Try it and let us know what happens. I have heard reports > from users trying it on Vista before, some of them apparently successful. > > ___ > Support mailing list > Support at freenetproject.org > http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support > Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support > Or mailto:support-request at freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe > -- Though I know that I know nothing.
RE: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville
14MB...sorry about he typo :) -Original Message- From: Toad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 3/10/2004 10:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 09:50:08PM +0500, Aman Pervaiz wrote: Yup you are right. Freenet is working better than ever right now. I have a poor 56k connection. I run a transient node on a machine of 650Mhz and windows xp...stable and unstable both fred versions. I am downloading files all the time. For example I downloaded two 14GB files that were inserted months ago successfully and very fastjust in a couple Uhm, do you mean 14MB? of hours. Most of the free-sites are accesible. Unstable works better than stable though. But yup freenet is evolving and growing. Cheers to Toad, Ian and the rest of the team. Hope I could get broadband and contribute one day :) Aryan -Original Message- From: Joe Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 3/10/2004 6:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville Toad writes: On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 02:21:19PM +0100, Troed S?ngberg wrote: My experience is the opposite of his, but I guess you know that the last stable builds have been really good already .. They have? In what sense? All I hear are complaints... and I usually run unstable, because it's what gets hacked on mostly... With the the latest stable builds, my java hanging problems have gone away (I figure that they were in an infinite loop trying to garbage collect due to the leaks; it's a bug in the jvm, certainly, but it seems it's been worked around) and I'm able to fetch information fairly easily. Sure, it's not like surfing the web, but right now freenet is better than it's ever been. You're only ever going to hear complaints because the happy people don't need support. :) For reference, what I did to make Freenet work well: - Blow away my old freenet configuration (from the last slashdotting era); - Re-seed with the stable seeds; - Forward the correct port on my Linksys router; - Use cjb.net for IP forwarding; - Increase RAM allowance for the jvm to 256 MB (-Xmx256m in start-freenet.sh); - Increase store size to 4 GB. Most of this is standard configuration. The only reason I increased my store size is because I wanted to contribute more to the network. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. winmail.dat___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville
Yup you are right. Freenet is working better than ever right now. I have a poor 56k connection. I run a transient node on a machine of 650Mhz and windows xp...stable and unstable both fred versions. I am downloading files all the time. For example I downloaded two 14GB files that were inserted months ago successfully and very fastjust in a couple of hours. Most of the free-sites are accesible. Unstable works better than stable though. But yup freenet is evolving and growing. Cheers to Toad, Ian and the rest of the team. Hope I could get broadband and contribute one day :) Aryan -Original Message- From: Joe Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 3/10/2004 6:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville Toad writes: On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 02:21:19PM +0100, Troed S?ngberg wrote: My experience is the opposite of his, but I guess you know that the last stable builds have been really good already .. They have? In what sense? All I hear are complaints... and I usually run unstable, because it's what gets hacked on mostly... With the the latest stable builds, my java hanging problems have gone away (I figure that they were in an infinite loop trying to garbage collect due to the leaks; it's a bug in the jvm, certainly, but it seems it's been worked around) and I'm able to fetch information fairly easily. Sure, it's not like surfing the web, but right now freenet is better than it's ever been. You're only ever going to hear complaints because the happy people don't need support. :) For reference, what I did to make Freenet work well: - Blow away my old freenet configuration (from the last slashdotting era); - Re-seed with the stable seeds; - Forward the correct port on my Linksys router; - Use cjb.net for IP forwarding; - Increase RAM allowance for the jvm to 256 MB (-Xmx256m in start-freenet.sh); - Increase store size to 4 GB. Most of this is standard configuration. The only reason I increased my store size is because I wanted to contribute more to the network. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] winmail.dat___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
