Re: [freenet-support] Startup question

2005-03-04 Thread Don Gregory
 Well then don't use Freenet. It'll never work well if it can't run most
 of the time. With the current version, which learns really slowly. Sorry
 we can't be more helpful. Obviously you can turn it off when you want to
 play Quake, but you can't just fire freenet up and instantly start
 downloading, because of its architecture.


Well, I'm setting up a dedicated linux box to run it on (well, sorta, I'll be 
running other net stuff on there too), so we'll see how that goes after it 
has a few weeks to learn.

D

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Re: [freenet-support] Startup question

2005-03-04 Thread Don Gregory

  Sorry we can't be more helpful.

 We *can* be more helpful, and in fact we were, as evidenced by Dave
 Hooper and myself.

 Perhaps you misunderstood what he was asking for?


Ah, it's cool.  I understood what he meant, and it actually was somewhat 
useful.  At least I know now not to expect it to really populate all that 
quickly.

Well, like I said before, it'll have its own box to run on soon, and 
hopefully, over time, that one will start to be responsive.  Running it on my 
desktop system isn't very practical.  There's just too much bandwidth, CPU 
time and disk accessing running in the background.

D

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Re: [freenet-support] Getting started question...

2005-03-04 Thread Don Gregory
On Wednesday 02 March 2005 8:10, Matthew Toseland wrote:
 You need to make sure that that node can access the internet fully i.e.
 it can receive incoming connections. If it can, and the box is 500MHz+
 with 128+ MB of RAM, it should get a lot better over a week or so.
 Freenet _does not offer instant gratification_. 0.7 will be a lot better
 on this (learning time), but will still have the basic problem that
 nodes must learn where stuff is.

Well, just got the box today.  It's a hand me down from my cousin.  I know 
it's a K6-2/533 (Yech!)  And according to the Compaq factory stats, has 64M 
of RAM, but I'm hoping my cousin added a bit more to it in the time he's 
owned it.  

Haven't had a chance to check it out yet.  I'm busy reconfiguring my desktop 
system to dual-boot Linux/XP.  I'm pretty good about keeping XP tuned up 
right, but I've just installed/uninstalled too many programs over the last 
year and change, and it was gettin' twitchy, so I decided to blow it away.

I'm tryin' to make a Linux desktop I can use full-time, and I'll just keep the 
XP partition for gaming.  SimplyMEPIS 3.3.  Debian distro.  Very slick.  I 
highly recommend it for anybody looking for a Windows-replacement version of 
Linux.  Though it only comes with KDE, so you have to install Gnome yourself 
if you want it.  Really a very simple process with the Synaptic Package 
manager.

But I digress...

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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet service not starting on Gentoo Linux

2005-03-04 Thread Don Gregory
On Thursday 03 March 2005 1:49, Todd Walton wrote:
 On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 19:04:12 +1300, John Huttley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Narcis Gratianu wrote:
  I'm sorry  that I cannot offer a script-kiddy answer.

 You're a dork.


ROFL!  Damned surly tech-support guys!  ;-)

Don

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Re: [freenet-support] Can't download seednodes.ref

2005-03-04 Thread Don Gregory

 they are talking about this problem on the dev list.
 sourceforge is going big corporation,
 and this is a side effect of their cost-cutting measures.
 they intentionally slow down the download of seednodes.ref
 because they want to force projects to compress these files.

 kind regards philippe


I don't think that's it.  When I tried the webinstall, each file would have a 
50/50 chance of downloading at either 150K+/s or .02K/s.  That ain't from 
throttling.  And when I downloaded the files via ftp (Well, HTTP download 
from the FTP server), they all downloaded full-speed.  Any way you slice it, 
that's a tech problem on their end, regardless of the spin they're tryin' 
to put on it.

Don

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[freenet-support] Startup question

2005-02-27 Thread Don Gregory
It appears that Freenet wants to modify the startup section of my 
Windows config so that it fires up automatically at a reboot.  I don't 
care for this.  I want to be able to launch it manually.  I hate things 
starting automatically.  Is there any way to change this?  I tell Spy 
Sweeper to remove that, but it comes back almost immediately, even if 
the Freenet process isn't running.

I thought maybe the grayed-out option to set the node to transient would 
be what controls that, but when I check the option on the Serious Geeks 
tab to allow me to change those options on the main page, it says it 
needs to restart the node for changes to take effect.  When the node 
restarts, those options are still grayed out, and the checkbox on the 
Serious Geeks tab is un-checked again.

I also tried looking through Freenet.ini for anything that might apply 
to the auto-startup, but I didn't find anything about startup or 
transient anywhere in the ini file.

So, since none of the obvious solutions are working, here I am.  Anybody 
know how to do this?

Thanks in advance,
Don
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[freenet-support] Getting started question...

2005-02-27 Thread Don Gregory
After initially setting up Freenet, (I set it to announce in the config) 
will it only download and cache sites I try to visit, or if I leave it 
running, will it just start to spider stuff automatically up to my 
store's set MB limit?

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[Fwd: Re: [freenet-support] Startup question]

2005-02-27 Thread Don Gregory
Ah, the startup folder!  Doh!  So simple it never even occurred to me.  
I'm so used to various spyware/adware things taking liberties with my 
config files, the simple answer never even entered my mind.

Ordinarily, Spy Sweeper keeps my startup config locked, and it'll warn 
me whenever something changes it.  Then I just click the offending app 
and choose Revert and Spy Sweeper blows that junk away.  This time, 
though, it kept reappearing every time I told it to revert.  I could 
understand that if the Freenet.exe was running, but nothing was.  Musta 
been a Windows process that doesn't like people messing with stuff in 
the startup folder.

Thanks very much,
Don
 Original Message 
Subject:Re: [freenet-support] Startup question
Date:   Sun, 27 Feb 2005 11:54:13 -0800
From:   Todd Walton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: support@freenetproject.org
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Go into the Start menu, go to Applications* and then Startup. 
There'll be an entry for Freenet.  Right click on it and Delete.  The
decision to load Freenet on startup is when the installer says Create
shortcuts or some such, and it gives you a check box.

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Re: [freenet-support] Getting started question...

2005-02-27 Thread Don Gregory
So the keys it collects...  Are these sorta like router table 
entries?  It doesn't cache the sites themselves, it caches the keys and 
slowly builds up a routing table that enables you to surf around?

Mika Hirvonen wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 13:46:37 -0500, Don Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

After initially setting up Freenet, (I set it to announce in the config)
will it only download and cache sites I try to visit, or if I leave it
running, will it just start to spider stuff automatically up to my
store's set MB limit?
   

It will not spider stuff, but the node will cache most of the data
that passes thru it. It does not care whether you or someone else
requested it.
 


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Re: [freenet-support] Getting started question...

2005-02-27 Thread Don Gregory
Well, I'll just have to let it roll and see what happens.  It's on my 
desktop XP system right now, which is occasionally inconvenient, but in 
the next week, I'll be pickin' up another PC, and when I do, I'll set 
that up with Linux and make that a dedicated Freenet box.  I can just 
let it go and forget about it that way, and hopefully after a week or 
two, it'll have it's tendrils spread a bit.

Tried i2P too, but there doesn't seem to be much to it yet.  The router 
part's useable, but there doesn't seem to be any content to browse or 
any apps for doing so yet, so being somewhat less than a coding guru, 
there's not much I can do with it.  Sounds like another interesting 
technology to keep an eye on tho.


Todd Walton wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 17:16:59 -0500, Don Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

So the keys it collects...  Are these sorta like router table
entries?  It doesn't cache the sites themselves, it caches the keys and
slowly builds up a routing table that enables you to surf around?
   

Not quite.  The node has a routing table, in which it tracks the speed
and reliability of other nodes, and what kinds of stuff they're good
at finding.  The node also has a datastore, in which it selectively
stores data that passes through.  Each datum has a key associated with
it.
 


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RE: [freenet-support] Freenet causing crashes...

2004-08-19 Thread Don Gregory
  And yeah, typically 15-20 minutes.  And when I say crash, I 
 mean the 
  whole system powers down.  Goes to a black screen, my monitor shuts 
  down, etc...
 
 That is surely a heat problem.

Yeah, I know that's what it sounds like, but that ain't it.  I finally
got it figured out today.  Apparently, SP2 reset my power-saving
settings in my display properties, so it made my monitor power-down
after 20 minutes.  Man, do I feel foolish!  But in my own defense, I've
had heat-related crashes in the past, and that's the ONLY time my
monitor ever goes into power-down mode, cuz I long ago set it to never
do that.

It WAS kinda puzzling that my monitor would go into power-down mode, yet
my PC's power light would stay on.  Usually during a heat-related crash,
it'd just reboot.  This time, it just sat there with a black monitor.
It struck me as odd, but the screensaver thing didn't occur to me right
away.

Though I appreciate your efforts to help me.  Thanks.  

I may have to quit running it anyway.  It's starting to seem to me that
running a node is a little bigger commitment than your typical P2P
client, and that it's really more appropriate for running on it's own
machine.  I don't know that it'll be practical to keep it up and running
24/7 on my desktop system, as it is now.  But we'll see.  I'll leave it
running overnight tonight and see how things go.  I did some research
today, and did some tweaking to my freenet.ini to try to get things
working a little better.  Time will tell.

Anyway, thanks again.

Don



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RE: [freenet-support] Re: Freenet causing crashes...

2004-08-19 Thread Don Gregory
That's good to know.  Thanks.  In the event log, does the message say
TCP/IP has reached the security limit imposed on the number of
concurrent TCP connect attempts.?  Cuz if so, that's the 10 half-open
connection thing I mentioned in an earlier post.  So far, that's the
only TCPIP messages I've gotten in event manager, personally.

Don


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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Wayne McDougall
 Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 12:13 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [freenet-support] Re: Freenet causing crashes...
 
 
  On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 02:11:40PM -0400, Don Gregory wrote:
   Anybody else here have any trouble with Freenet running 
 on XP SP2?  
   I know SP2 is still a bit new to most people, and it's a 
   HUGE service pack, weighing in at over 260M, and 
 it screws 
   with hundreds of system files, so I'd like to be able to 
 rule that 
   out definitively if anybody here is using SP2 with 
 Freenet without 
   incident.  There have been reports of it messing with 
 other pieces 
   of software, so I naturally assumed this might be a 
 likely suspect.
 
 Adding a data point. I'm running Freenet on XP SP2 with no 
 problems at all.
 
 The only point I've noted is that SP2 will throttle TCP/IP 
 connections if too many failed connections occur in too short 
 a time. When I restart Freenet I'll get a few events in the 
 event log reporting that the throttling has kicked in. My 
 assumption is that freenet is trying to reestablish 
 connections to the nodes it knew about previously - some of 
 which aren't there any more.
 
 This has done no harm that I can observe. Freenet has no 
 problems starting up and isn't noticeably slower at doing so. 
 It seems to run just the same as before and I haven't 
 observed any connection throttling during Freenet operations.
 
 I'm happy.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [freenet-support] Problems with Freenet: from a windows perspective.

2004-08-19 Thread Don Gregory
Well, I HAVE bumped into the half-open connection limit once or twice.
Mostly it's an issue for people using P2P clients, edonkey, overnet,
etc...  It's easy enough to fix anway.

I did some reading on the subject, and the recommendation I got was to
manually change the config file to have TransientNode=False in it.
Apparently Freenet won't integrate into the network as well if you're
set to transient.  In the process of testing it now.  I'll know better
in a day or so.

Don


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 Michael DeLisle
 Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 1:38 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [freenet-support] Problems with Freenet: from a 
 windows perspective.
 
 
   I recently installed a new node from scratch on a 
 Windows XP SP2 box, 
 and here are my observations.
 
   While there's lots of talk about SP2 limiting TCP 
 connections, I 
 haven't see any real issues with it.
 
   On the negative side, freenet-java-webinstall.exe is 
 configured to 
 install Sun JRE 1.4.1, when I believe it should install 1.4.2.
 
   After 5 hours of uptime I only have 72 open 
 connections.  This was a 
 problem I experienced on my linux based node too; either the 
 seednodes.ref file is inadequate (weighing in at 26mB!) or 
 Freenet 5091 
 isn't aggressive enough about meeting maxNodeConnections.
 
   I would also like to point out that I'm currently only 
 using ~50% of 
 my upstream bandwidth, based on frequent observation of the General 
 Information page.  Perhaps Freenet should be more apt to take 
 advantage of newbie nodes?
 
   If there's any other information that would be of 
 assistance, please 
 let me know.
 
 --mikeDOTd
 
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RE: [freenet-support] Problems with Freenet: from a windowsperspective.

2004-08-19 Thread Don Gregory
Ah, okay.  Yeah, kinda n00b here.  Now that you mention it, it didn't
really seem to make a difference.  Musta been an older faq.

Don


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 Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Problems with Freenet: from a 
 windowsperspective.
 
 
 Transient isn't that relevant anymore; the current build in 
 CVS has all 
 traces of the Transient property removed.
 
 So you won't notice much of a difference using this property 
 on stable 
 (build 5091).
 
 On Thursday 19 August 2004 03:05 am, Don Gregory wrote:
  Well, I HAVE bumped into the half-open connection limit 
 once or twice. 
  Mostly it's an issue for people using P2P clients, edonkey, 
 overnet, 
  etc...  It's easy enough to fix anway.
 
  I did some reading on the subject, and the recommendation I 
 got was to 
  manually change the config file to have 
 TransientNode=False in it. 
  Apparently Freenet won't integrate into the network as well 
 if you're 
  set to transient.  In the process of testing it now.  I'll 
 know better 
  in a day or so.
 
  Don
 
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[freenet-support] Freenet causing crashes...

2004-08-18 Thread Don Gregory
I just recently setup a node, and I'm trying to let it run for a while
to give it a chance to spread its tendrils so to speak.  I'm at the
point now where it's had maybe 4-5 hours to run over my 3Mb cable
connection and I'm STARTING to get a little responsiveness from the
network.

Problem is, I want to leave it running for several hours to fully
propagate itself, whatever, but it seems to be gobbling up a LOT of CPU
power.  Well, not the Freenet executable, but the java engine running
it.  That by itself wouldn't be a problem, but it seems to be making my
computer crash.  After leaving it running for 15 minutes or so, my
computer will spontaneously crash/shut-down.

I tried setting the CPU priority in the config tool to be below normal,
I tried setting the process priority in Task Manager to be below normal
for both the javaw.exe and freenet.exe processes, but it's still
devouring over 90% of my CPU on average, and it's still crashing my
system after 10-15 minutes.  This really sucks, because it was just
around NOW that things were starting to get interesting.

The system I'm running it on is:

Windows XP Pro, SP2
Athlon XP 1800+
768 RAM
3Mb cable internet connection
Windows Binary 5091 version of the Node
Sun Java 2 Runtime Environment, SE v1.4.2_04

Can anybody help explain what's going on here and how I might fix it?  I
just recently installed SP 2 for XP, and I know that has a 10-connection
limit for half-open TCPIP connections, and in the Freenet config
utility, it says 200 connections, so I was thinking maybe that might
have something to do with it.  I actually changed that bit of my Windows
configuration, as 10 is too low.  The TCPIP stack I'm running now allows
50 half-open connections.  That may still be too low, though, depending
on just how Freenet's using TCPIP.

So, is there anybody that knows anything about running a node on a SP2
version of WinXP Pro?  Also, any advice for configuring things for
optimum performance?  I really have no idea how the Freenet network
works under the hood, so I really don't have a clue how to tune things
properly.  Any good n00b resources available that I could look at?

Any help appreciated.  I love the Freenet concept, but it's still a
little tech-heavy for me to grasp at this stage.

Thanks much,
Don



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RE: [freenet-support] Freenet causing crashes...

2004-08-18 Thread Don Gregory
Well, the heat thing is the obvious answer, but I don't think that's it.
My CPU temp never goes above 50 degrees celsius, which should be well
within acceptable tolerances.  Plus, I have my case open and a
FULL-SIZE, like cool your whole house sized, fan blowing right into the
case.  I used to have heat problems, but none since I put that fan in
there.

Just to be on the safe-side, I just underclocked my CPU on the MB a few
cycles, so we'll see if that helps stability.

And yeah, typically 15-20 minutes.  And when I say crash, I mean the
whole system powers down.  Goes to a black screen, my monitor shuts
down, etc...  I don't think it's the CPU usage doing it necessarily, cuz
I often run video-editing software set to high priority that runs it at
near 100% all day long without issue.  I just mention the CPU usage
because I wasn't sure if that was normal or not.

My uplink speed is only 256K.  (No premiere service available in my
neighborhood yet)

Memory in the Flaunch.ini was set to default.  I changed it to 256M,
so we'll see what happens.  I'll also upgrade my Java too.  Thought I
was already up to date there, but I guess not.

Thanks for all the suggestions, everyone.  I appreciate it.

Anybody else here have any trouble with Freenet running on XP SP2?  I
know SP2 is still a bit new to most people, and it's a HUGE
service pack, weighing in at over 260M, and it screws with hundreds of
system files, so I'd like to be able to rule that out definitively if
anybody here is using SP2 with Freenet without incident.  There have
been reports of it messing with other pieces of software, so I naturally
assumed this might be a likely suspect.


Don





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 Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 12:05 PM
 To: Don Gregory; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Freenet causing crashes...
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 08:36:21AM -0400, Don Gregory wrote:
  I just recently setup a node, and I'm trying to let it run 
 for a while 
  to give it a chance to spread its tendrils so to speak.  I'm at the 
  point now where it's had maybe 4-5 hours to run over my 3Mb cable 
  connection and I'm STARTING to get a little responsiveness from the 
  network.
  
  Problem is, I want to leave it running for several hours to fully 
  propagate itself, whatever, but it seems to be gobbling up a LOT of 
  CPU power.  Well, not the Freenet executable, but the java engine 
  running it.  That by itself wouldn't be a problem, but it 
 seems to be 
  making my computer crash.  After leaving it running for 15 
 minutes or 
  so, my computer will spontaneously crash/shut-down.
 
 Hmmm. Your computer has inadequate cooling, most likely. Not 
 our problem :). No obvious ideas for a workaround... except 
 perhaps enabling doCPULoad=true in the config file (you're on 
 linux, right? :)).
  
  I tried setting the CPU priority in the config tool to be below 
  normal, I tried setting the process priority in Task Manager to be 
  below normal
 
 Hmm, you're not on linux. That rules out that idea.
 
  for both the javaw.exe and freenet.exe processes, but it's still 
  devouring over 90% of my CPU on average, and it's still crashing my 
  system after 10-15 minutes.  This really sucks, because it was just 
  around NOW that things were starting to get interesting.
 
 15 minutes?! Your system's expected lifetime is pretty low if 
 it crashes in 15 minutes of 90% CPU usage. Are you sure you 
 don't have major issues with inadequate cooling?
  
  The system I'm running it on is:
  
  Windows XP Pro, SP2
  Athlon XP 1800+
  768 RAM
  3Mb cable internet connection
 
 The downlink doesn't matter much. The uplink is what matters. 
 3Mbps downlink, what's the uplink? 256kbps? 768kbps?
 
  Windows Binary 5091 version of the Node
  Sun Java 2 Runtime Environment, SE v1.4.2_04
  
  Can anybody help explain what's going on here and how I 
 might fix it?  
  I just recently installed SP 2 for XP, and I know that has a 
  10-connection limit for half-open TCPIP connections, and in the 
  Freenet config
 
 That doesn't cause major problems, according to other 
 reports. In any case it'll just queue them; it shouldn't 
 cause a crash.
 
 BTW, what exactly do you mean by crashing?
 
  utility, it says 200 connections, so I was thinking maybe 
 that might 
  have something to do with it.  I actually changed that bit of my 
  Windows configuration, as 10 is too low.  The TCPIP stack 
 I'm running 
  now allows 50 half-open connections.  That may still be too low, 
  though, depending on just how Freenet's using TCPIP.
 
 Freenet uses 200 OPEN conns, it only opens 50 or so at once - 
 so there will not generally be more than 50 half-open conns.
  
  So, is there anybody that knows anything about running a 
 node on a SP2 
  version of WinXP Pro?  Also, any advice for configuring things for 
  optimum performance?  I really have no idea how the Freenet network