Re: [freenet-support] Offline installer fails

2012-02-12 Thread Evan Daniel
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Yfrwlf yfr...@gmail.com wrote:

 The problem is the existing common formats like DEB and RPM are too
 stupid and not set up right.  They lack the flexibility to be able to
 do things like installing multiple versions of the same library or
 the same program side-by-side, one of the causes of the syndrome of
 Thou shalt only install ONE version of Firefox!  If you want a newer
 one, upgrade your entire OS!, which is just ludicrous. The point is,
 all *sorts* of hell is caused because of the Linux packaging mess,
 and it effects both devs and users in harmful ways. You standardize
 on an intelligent, featureful system, and everybody wins.

 Gentoo allows that. Gentoo is also 100% completely customizable to fit
 even the most esoteric tastes. It even supports pre-compiled binary
 packages. Why aren't you using it, then?


 I only use systems which are cross-distro.  You keep calling ZI yet another
 package manager, and I keep telling you that it isn't because it works on
 *any distro*, but you can't seem to grasp that.  It's what makes ZI unique.
  Of course I can't force everyone to use the same package manager, but that
 isn't needed with ZI because it works alongside existing ones.  Buy hey,
 perpetuate the existing fragmented confusing world of Linux packaging and
 wait until everyone starts using the same package manager if you want
 (something that will never happen since distros want exclusive repositories
 to leverage their distro with, even if it hurts the Linux community).

So is there a ZI package yet?

Evan Daniel
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Re: [freenet-support] Offline installer fails

2012-02-12 Thread Evan Daniel
On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Yfrwlf yfr...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 02/12/2012 08:19 AM, Evan Daniel wrote:

 So is there a ZI package yet?


 That sounds nice, you could make the ZI package/feed depend on JDK so there
 were no longer any unfulfilled dependencies on the user's end regardless of
 platform, since it would be automatically installed.  Instead of the
 existing installer, you could have some of those things done with a
 web-based first run setup wizard.  Upgrades could be handled by ZI updates
 instead of custom updaters, too.

 I don't know if redoing all that is worth it in exchange for certain perks
 though, since Freenet has already implemented so many of its own systems to
 make up for not having those systems exist across platforms.  Perhaps ZI is
 too late to the party. :)

It's not too late. Personally, I don't care at all about ZI, but if
end users find it useful, I'm for it. Please let me know when it's
available :)

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Re: [freenet-support] Offline installer fails

2012-01-20 Thread Evan Daniel
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Yfrwlf yfr...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 01/20/2012 07:05 AM, Dennis Nezic wrote:

 On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 22:10:39 +1300, Austin wrote:

 Originally tried the JavaWebStart installer, and had problems with
 disk space. Moved /usr/local to a bigger partition, then downloaded
 the offline installer:
 http://freenet.googlecode.com/files/new_installer_offline_1405.jar as
 per the web site instructions; also the sig file
 new_installer_offline_1405.jar.sig which I verified with gpg.
 Then ran
   java -jar new_installer_offline.jar
 All went OK until Processing step 2/15, Setting the Updater up,
 which reported Process execution failed and asked Continue
 Anyway?. I continued, but every step after that failed.
 Cleared out the target directory and tried again, same result.
 Can't find any installation log, is there one somewhere?
 Grateful for any suggestions as to what to try next.
 System is Debian Linux 2.6, amd64 (Intel i7 870), 8GB RAM.
 Java OpenJDK 1.6.0_18

 (Side note: Why isn't there a debian package for freenet yet?)


 Well with the only dependency being Java I could understand why there are no
 packages.  If there needed to be though it should be Zero Install so that
 it's cross-distro and cross-platform.

Using Zero Install won't make it so I can apt-get install freenet.
That needs a Debian package, hosted on the Debian repositories. The
request is for a Debian package on Debian repos, not to make it easier
to install Freenet on Debian.

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Re: [freenet-support] Wondering about darknets security

2011-07-28 Thread Evan Daniel
 connection. Make them convince you they're
a real live person who isn't a Bad Guy, and you've probably made
yourself a difficult enough target that they'll go after someone
easier.

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Re: [freenet-support] [freenet-dev] Freenet 0.7.5 build 1385

2011-07-20 Thread Evan Daniel
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Matthew Toseland
t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote:
 Freenet 0.7.5 build 1385 is now available, please upgrade.

 The main change is merging the store-io branch, aka slot filters. This is a 
 replacement for the old datastore bloom filters. It keeps 4 bytes in memory 
 for each slot in the datastore, indicating whether they are full and the 
 first few bytes of the (hashed, salted) key. This is slightly smaller than 
 the old bloom filters, but is kept on the heap, not memory mapped, so it will 
 increase your memory limit in wrapper.conf slightly when you first run it. It 
 should greatly reduce disk I/O, in particular disk reads caused by writing a 
 block to the datastore. It will delete the old bloom filters and build the 
 new slotfilter files, which will take some time, during which the node will 
 be using the disk quite heavily, but after that it should be much reduced.

 Please let us know if there are any problems! There is also a new version of 
 FlogHelper (which didn't work with the last build), a new load management fix 
 and some minor stuff.

Neat to see this feature going in :)

Upgraded earlier today. I'm showing no writes to store, cache, or
client cache since then (but yes to slashdot cache). This is true
across all three key types, even on the nearly empty pubkey stores.

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Re: [freenet-support] Temporary files error

2010-07-04 Thread Evan Daniel
On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 10:35 AM, 3BUIb3S50i 3buib3s...@gmail.com wrote:
 Since 1255, all my downloads  20MB failed with temporary files error when
 the node decompress the file to the download directory. In the wrapper,
 these failed downloads are marked BZip2 CRC error, and only a fraction of
 the file is decompressed. But these chunk of the supposed failed downloads
 are OK!

 I would like desactivate the new broken CRC control to decompress all the
 files.

How about instead of adding more features to make a bad UI to work
around trivial bugs, we fix the bugs...

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Re: [freenet-support] Fw: Inserts insert fine, but FCP never finishes

2010-06-24 Thread Evan Daniel
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Matthew Toseland
t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote:
 On Sunday 13 June 2010 14:52:17 Dennis Nezic wrote:
 episodi...@mtnvoeldfh6zd61fk1br94hikbkstf2xsmvqfts16lc wrote :
  episodi...@mtnvoeldfh6zd61fk1br94hikbkstf2xsmvqfts16lc wrote :
  ros...@mrdnrocaisdbhx3oqxnxsr2fhlrafrkk7wsoy9ecxdq wrote :
  Anybody else getting this?
 
  I insert via PutComplexDir using TogosFCP or jSite (0.6). My site
  inserts fully into freenet (I can download it, browse, it, etc.),
  but the FCP transaction never completes.
 
  jSite/Togos  hang at 100%, waiting for FCP to give a finished
  message or some such, which never arrives.
 
  It seemed to start doing this after the recent update, but
  obviously I can't be sure if that's the issue.
 
  Single files work ok (KSK, CHK), as does a single-file SSK.
  However, if I upload a single file using a USK, it seems to hang.
  Just a hunch...
 
 
  Roscoe.
 
  Same here, since 1250 update.
 
 
  Funny thing is .. i was just about to post a anyone else? similar
  post, while a jSite freesite insert stucked at 100%. (i only tried
  jSite though, with hundred of inserted files per 'project'.)
 

 Yup, me too.

 I inserted the last edition of Now What? before I got the 1250 build
 and it worked fine. I inserted an edition of Linka shortly after 1250
 came through and jSite has never completed since.

 My assumption is this is likely somehow connected to the USK changes
 and the insertion of date hints.

 Somebody please communicate this to Toad and co please. I posted
 something related to this on Freetalk earlier, but I'm not convinced
 anybody is paying much attention to Freetalk posts at the moment.

 This is fixed as of 1253.

It does not seem to be.  I still occasionally have inserts of my stats
site that never finish.  I start them via FCP, as persistent in the
global queue.  (The FCP client then disconnects.)  They sometimes
finish, and sometimes remain indefinitely, showing 100%?? status.
Either way, the update is visible on Freenet as if the insert had
succeeded.

This has been occasionally present for some time now (well before
1250; I don't know exactly when).  It still happens sometimes, but not
always.

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Re: [freenet-support] Uninstall Freenet

2010-05-29 Thread Evan Daniel
Masayuki Hatta appears to still be maintaining one:
http://www.mhatta.org/blog/2010/02/17

Evan Daniel

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Matthew Toseland
t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote:
 On Wednesday 26 May 2010 04:58:02 Dennis Nezic wrote:
 Ubuntu doesn't have a freenet package??

 No, we don't encourage official packaging at this point on any distribution 
 which has any idea of stable software. I.e. gentoo-based distributions are 
 welcome to package Freenet. ;)

 Unofficial debian/ubuntu packages are another matter, but at the moment we 
 don't have any afaik.

 On Mon, 03 May 2010 22:43:51 +0800, Chris wrote:
  Gday,
 
  Could you please help me? I am trying to uninstall Freenet.
 
  Since installing Freenet, there is activity happening behind the
  scenes when the machine is sitting idle even with Freenet shutdown.
  Need to isolate what is happening.
 
  I found the uninstall file in /home/pc5/freenet/  but don't know how
  to use this file in terminal to uninstall.
 
  I am new to Ubuntu and Linux and when an application is not in the
  automated places like Ubuntu Software centre and synaptic package
  manager then I don't know what has to be done.
 
  Could you please tell me how to use the uninstall file? Each line of
  code?
 
 
  Thanks.
 
  Regards,
 
  Chris Hazzard.
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Re: [freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 48, Issue 12

2010-04-14 Thread Evan Daniel
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Matthew Toseland
t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote:
 On Saturday 10 April 2010 21:53:24 freenet wrote:
 Matthew,

 I don't monitor the node that closely. The reason for the crashes
 varies. It seems to usually be a null pointer exception.

 Usually this isn't fatal. It would be interesting to see the logs. I assume 
 this is shown in wrapper.log?

 Other times
 it just crashes out with no warning. Other times it runs out of disk
 space. When that happens the entire Freenet installation virtually
 self destructs, corrupting key files, mostly the persistent temp files
 and the .db4o database. I have to totally wipe those to recover the
 node. The datastore seems to survive all crashes ok. Freenet really
 should handle running out of disk space better than this.

 Until Java 1.6 we don't even know how much disk space is available. And most 
 embedded databases (thankfully not the one we use) corrupt themselves 
 unrecoverably on out of disk space. Just pointing out that it's not as easy a 
 problem as you might think. Really the solution is for the user to set a 
 sensible space limit, rather than filling up the entire partition with 
 datastore and then using even more for downloads. And we do try to help the 
 user there, by suggesting a fraction of the detected disk size in the 
 installer.

 So I've turned the log level down to minimum to help prevent runaway
 disk usage. Hence I no longer see much info on what might have made
 the node crash. I did manage to increase the size of the partition
 that Freenet runs from by about 2GBytes and decrease the size of the
 datastore by 1GByte. So far no more running out of disk space.

 Ah, so it's THE LOG FILES that fill up the disk? Freenet rotates log files 
 once an hour, and there is a limit on the total size of the log files, 
 defaulting to 128MB - but unfortunately this only includes the compressed 
 rotated log files, not the live log files. In any case if we are using 
 500MB+ for one hour's logs something is seriously wrong - I suggest in that 
 case you shut down the node, if necessary delete everything else, and send me 
 as much of the compressed logfile as you can.

Well, there's another issue as well: Freenet uses more space for the
datastore than configured, by about 2-3%.
https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=3689

Evan Daniel
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Re: [freenet-support] [freenet-dev] Another way Freenet sucks for filesharing was Re: major problems - stuck at 100%, nonresponsive

2010-04-02 Thread Evan Daniel
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Matthew Toseland
t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote:
 On Friday 02 April 2010 17:31:13 Matthew Toseland wrote:
 On Tuesday 09 March 2010 04:27:24 Evan Daniel wrote:
  You should really send these to the support list; that's what it's for.
 
  You can change the physical security level setting independently of
  the network seclevels -- see configuration - security levels.
 
  I'm not sure what else to suggest at this point.  You could try
  increasing the amount of ram for temp buckets (configuration - core
  settings), but that's mostly a stab in the dark.
 
  I suspect you need to reduce the amount of stuff in your queue.

 Thanks Evan for helping Daniel. In theory it ought to be possible to have a 
 nearly unlimited number of downloads in the queue: That is precisely why we 
 decided to use a database to store the progress of downloads. Unfortunately, 
 in practice, disks are slow, and the more stuff is queued, the less of it 
 will be cached in RAM i.e. the more reliant we are on slow disks.

 There are many options for optimising the code so that it uses the disk 
 less. But unfortunately they are all a significant amount of work.

 See https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=4031 and the bugs it is 
 marked as related to.

 So I guess the real question here is, how important is it that we be able to 
 queue 60 downloads and still have acceptable performance? How many users use 
 Freenet filesharing in that sort of way?

All of them, I suspect.  If a file is mostly downloaded, but not
complete, the natural response seems to be to leave it there in hopes
it will complete, and add other files in the mean time.  Combined with
unretrievable files due to missing blocks, this will produce very
large download queues.

Evan Daniel
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Re: [freenet-support] changing permanent temp folder

2010-03-09 Thread Evan Daniel
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Daniel Stork stork...@yahoo.com wrote:


 Hi, I'm having problems with files stuck at 100% and having to wait hours
 and days for them to decode.
 It seems that despite having all the parts freenet just sits on it for some
 reason. Is there some reason for this?
 Would it be possible that you guys fix this? cuz it would be great not to
 have to wait days to decode a file that's already here.

 The node.db4o file also becomes enourmous for some reason (over half Gb)
 after a few days.
 It seems to be that this is what causes the files to take so long to decode,
 and it is also making the a high-end computer totally unresponsive.

 In the meantime, until this hopefully gets fixed, could you tell me if
 there's a way to change the location of the persistent temp folder,
 I would like to put the node.db4o on a ram disk, but the persistent temp is
 too large for this, so I would have to separate the two,
 and could not find settings in freenet.ini,

 Thanks a lot, and thanks for all your work on freenet, it's awsome.

Hopefully this will get fixed at some point.

Could you please give us a copy of your stats page, in advanced mode?

Short term, you can remove some or all of the keys from your download
queue, and then put them back slowly, making sure the queue never gets
overly large.  (That is, save a list of things to download somewhere,
download a few, put in new ones as old ones finish.)

You could move the node.db4o elsewhere, and then add a symlink to the
new location.

Evan Daniel
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Re: [freenet-support] Return of the Out of memory, Part LCXIX

2010-03-09 Thread Evan Daniel
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Dennis Nezic denn...@dennisn.dyndns.org wrote:
 As I (and I'm sure others) mentioned before, my node is still going
 down (crashing?) regularly -- roughly weekly. I currently allocate it
 150MB of (precious) ram. Here are my last 2 (of infinity) heap reports
 from the jvm dump:

 Heap
  def new generation   total 46080K, used 41323K
  eden space 40960K, 100% used
  from space 5120K,   7% used
  to   space 5120K,   0% used
  tenured generation   total 102400K, used 99586K
   the space 102400K,  97% used
  compacting perm gen  total 12288K, used 11390K
   the space 12288K,  92% used
    ro space 10240K,  61% used
    rw space 12288K,  60% used

 Heap
  def new generation   total 46080K, used 41400K
  eden space 40960K, 100% used
  from space 5120K,   8% used
  to   space 5120K,   0% used
  tenured generation   total 102400K, used 102399K
   the space 102400K,  99% used
  compacting perm gen  total 12288K, used 11214K
   the space 12288K,  91% used
    ro space 10240K,  61% used
    rw space 12288K,  60% used

 Is there NO way that freenet can do a better job cleaning up? (I
 believe this happens even if I don't have (much) currently in the queues
 -- Ie. if I did heavy activity days before -- or maybe even on it's own
 without any manually-initiated activity, although I would have to test
 this more :\.)

 Maybe we can add more debugging info as to where all the memory is
 allocated? Ie. which structures? (And hopefully decide that we can Let
 Go of some of them :|.)

What plugins are you running (complete list)?  Can you provide a copy
of your full stats page, in advanced mode?

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Re: [freenet-support] major problems - stuck at 100%, nonresponsive

2010-03-08 Thread Evan Daniel
You should really send these to the support list; that's what it's for.

You can change the physical security level setting independently of
the network seclevels -- see configuration - security levels.

I'm not sure what else to suggest at this point.  You could try
increasing the amount of ram for temp buckets (configuration - core
settings), but that's mostly a stab in the dark.

I suspect you need to reduce the amount of stuff in your queue.

Evan Daniel

On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 8:05 AM, Daniel Stork stork...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Defragmenting the database did help. It went from 520 Mb to 160 Mb,
 This made it a bit more responsive and the smaller files now finished in
 about an hour,
 but the larger ones are still stuck at 100%.

 Could you tell me how to change the location of the persistent temp folder?
 I didn't see this in freenet.ini

 I'd like to put to node.db4o.crypt file on the ramdisk, but the persistent
 temp is way too big for that.
 Does the node.db4o have to be in the same folder as the persistent temp ?

 Also, if I'm running freenet from either a ramdisk or a truecrypt volume,
 than does it make sense to have the persistent temp and the datastore and
 db4o encrypted ?
 Is it possible to just have these unencrypted without affecting my online
 security settings ?



 Thanks a lot,

 Dan



 
 From: Evan Daniel eva...@gmail.com
 To: Daniel Stork stork...@yahoo.com; support@freenetproject.org
 Sent: Sat, March 6, 2010 4:38:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [freenet-support] major problems - stuck at 100%, nonresponsive

 I suspect the stalled downloads are the same problem as the heavy IO,
 and that both come from the downloads database.  I would expect
 increasing the memory available to help; I'm somewhat surprised it
 doesn't.  I doubt there's much io to the datastore in comparison.  If
 you want to play with ram disks, putting the data store on a normal
 hard disk and the node.db4o (or node.db4o.crypt) file on a ram disk is
 more likely to help.  However, first I would try defragmenting your
 node.db4o file (configuration - core settings - Defragment the
 downloads database during the next startup? - true).  Does setting
 that and then restarting the node help?  How big was your node.db4o
 file before / after defragmenting?

 If none of this helps, then I suspect you simply have more downloads
 queued than Freenet can handle.  I recommend removing some or all of
 the files, and then re-adding them when others finish, keeping the
 total size queued at any one time limited.

 Evan Daniel

 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Daniel Stork stork...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Evan, thanks for the response, I tried playing around with the memory, and
 giving freenet 2 gb makes it crash,
 but it works with 1,5gb (I have a total of 4gb installed).

 The memory did not change anything. The disk was churning a lot so I
 transferred the datastore to a 2gb ramdisk, which reduced some of it.
 But still the system becomes really unresponsive, when using freenet.

 Any ideas what this could be? All my hardware is really more than enough,
 I
 have one of the best Core 2 Duos and all resources are underutilized.

 Also, - I know others have asked already, but am not sure if this issue
 was
 ever resolved - I have numerous downloads at 100% that do not complete.
 I have been waiting for hours and days.

 Any idea why this happens?

 I usually have about 80-100 simultaneous downloads, is this too much for
 freenet to handle?

 Thanks a lot,


 
 From: Evan Daniel eva...@gmail.com
 To: support@freenetproject.org; Daniel Stork stork...@yahoo.com
 Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 7:13:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [freenet-support] major problems - stuck at 100%,
 nonresponsive

 On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Daniel Stork stork...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm having major problems with freenet on Windows, I have 60 downloads of
 which 60 have been stuck at 100% for days.
 Running freenet makes Windows completely unresponsive.
 It takes literally 10 minutes for frost to start up.
 This happened in the past. I deleted node.db4o and the permanent
 downloads
 folder and this fixed it for a while,
 But it goes back to the same state in a few days.
 Right now my node.db4o is 230 Mb and I don't want to lost the 60
 downloads
 (almost 10 gigs total) which are complete.
 The CPU usage is 50-80% on a very strong pc.

 My questions are the following:

 1. Could the unresponsiveness be a memory issue with Java ? I have 4 gigs
 but  freenet and frost use only 160 and 210 megabytes. Is java putting  a
 limit on these somehow?
 What's the proper way to allocate memory to freenet and frost ?

 Freenet has a configuration option.  You can set it from configuration
 - core settings - max memory.

 For frost, run it with java -Xmx256M -jar frost.jar (or whatever
 setting you prefer) instead of the normal java -jar frost.jar.

 It's possible your issue is Freenet memory; I'm not certain.  Please
 let me

Re: [freenet-support] major problems - stuck at 100%, nonresponsive

2010-03-06 Thread Evan Daniel
I suspect the stalled downloads are the same problem as the heavy IO,
and that both come from the downloads database.  I would expect
increasing the memory available to help; I'm somewhat surprised it
doesn't.  I doubt there's much io to the datastore in comparison.  If
you want to play with ram disks, putting the data store on a normal
hard disk and the node.db4o (or node.db4o.crypt) file on a ram disk is
more likely to help.  However, first I would try defragmenting your
node.db4o file (configuration - core settings - Defragment the
downloads database during the next startup? - true).  Does setting
that and then restarting the node help?  How big was your node.db4o
file before / after defragmenting?

If none of this helps, then I suspect you simply have more downloads
queued than Freenet can handle.  I recommend removing some or all of
the files, and then re-adding them when others finish, keeping the
total size queued at any one time limited.

Evan Daniel

On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Daniel Stork stork...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Evan, thanks for the response, I tried playing around with the memory, and
 giving freenet 2 gb makes it crash,
 but it works with 1,5gb (I have a total of 4gb installed).

 The memory did not change anything. The disk was churning a lot so I
 transferred the datastore to a 2gb ramdisk, which reduced some of it.
 But still the system becomes really unresponsive, when using freenet.

 Any ideas what this could be? All my hardware is really more than enough, I
 have one of the best Core 2 Duos and all resources are underutilized.

 Also, - I know others have asked already, but am not sure if this issue was
 ever resolved - I have numerous downloads at 100% that do not complete.
 I have been waiting for hours and days.

 Any idea why this happens?

 I usually have about 80-100 simultaneous downloads, is this too much for
 freenet to handle?

 Thanks a lot,


 
 From: Evan Daniel eva...@gmail.com
 To: support@freenetproject.org; Daniel Stork stork...@yahoo.com
 Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 7:13:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [freenet-support] major problems - stuck at 100%, nonresponsive

 On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Daniel Stork stork...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm having major problems with freenet on Windows, I have 60 downloads of
 which 60 have been stuck at 100% for days.
 Running freenet makes Windows completely unresponsive.
 It takes literally 10 minutes for frost to start up.
 This happened in the past. I deleted node.db4o and the permanent downloads
 folder and this fixed it for a while,
 But it goes back to the same state in a few days.
 Right now my node.db4o is 230 Mb and I don't want to lost the 60 downloads
 (almost 10 gigs total) which are complete.
 The CPU usage is 50-80% on a very strong pc.

 My questions are the following:

 1. Could the unresponsiveness be a memory issue with Java ? I have 4 gigs
 but  freenet and frost use only 160 and 210 megabytes. Is java putting  a
 limit on these somehow?
 What's the proper way to allocate memory to freenet and frost ?

 Freenet has a configuration option.  You can set it from configuration
 - core settings - max memory.

 For frost, run it with java -Xmx256M -jar frost.jar (or whatever
 setting you prefer) instead of the normal java -jar frost.jar.

 It's possible your issue is Freenet memory; I'm not certain.  Please
 let me know if increasing memory available helps.


 2. Does setting priority in task manager have any effect ? I noticed they
 are on below normal and cannot be changed.

 I'm not certain.  Freenet normally runs most of its threads at very
 low priority, and a couple at higher priority.  Reducing the priority
 too far on some OSes can mean the high priority threads get starved
 for CPU, causing timeouts and restarts and such.  I'm not sure if this
 happens on windows.


 3. Is there a way to save these completed downloads that freenet is not
 finishing (i.e. command line utility)?

 Just the normal download process.  Reducing the size of your queue
 will fix the problem, and increasing the memory available may help.


 Also another issue I noticed:

 - When I select Download the file in the background and store in
 R:\Freenet\downloads or Fetch the file in the background from the
 freenet
 UI,
 it doesn't do anything. Are these supposed to work?

 They should add the file to your download queue; they work fine here.
 What does happen?  What error message are you getting?

 Evan Daniel


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Re: [freenet-support] can't install

2010-02-06 Thread Evan Daniel
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Martin Lorenz mar...@lorenz.priv.at wrote:
 well,
 just tried to get the latest version after some years and stayed hoplessly
 unsuccessful.

 I keep getting a freenet nodewhich dosen't listen on 
 when trying the headless install I found a reason:

 $ ./bin/1run.sh
 Enabling the auto-update feature
 Detecting tcp-ports availability...
 Can not bind fproxy to : let's try 8889 instead.
 Can not bind any socket on 127.0.0.1:
                IT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN\!

                Make sure your loopback interface is properly configured.
                Delete Freenet\'s directory and retry.

 no idea why this is

 these are the last few lines of an strace of java -jar bin/bindtest.jar  
 

 munmap(0xb76ca000, 136735)              = 0
 mmap2(NULL, 331776, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
 MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS|MAP_STACK, -1, 0) = 0xb6a06000
 mprotect(0xb6a06000, 4096, PROT_NONE)   = 0
 clone(child_stack=0xb6a56494, 
 flags=CLONE_VM|CLONE_FS|CLONE_FILES|CLONE_SIGHAND|CLONE_THREAD|CLONE_SYSVSEM|CLONE_SETTLS|CLONE_PARENT_SETTID|CLONE_CHILD_CLEARTID,
  parent_tidptr=0xb6a56bd8, {entry_number:6, base_addr:0xb6a56b70, 
 limit:1048575, seg_32bit:1, contents:0, read_exec_only:0, limit_in_pages:1, 
 seg_not_present:0, useable:1}, child_tidptr=0xb6a56bd8) = 21970
 futex(0xb6a56bd8, FUTEX_WAIT, 21970, NULL unfinished ... exit status 1

What OS are you running?

This looks like the Debian Squeeze ipv6 bug:
http://new-wiki.freenetproject.org/Installing_on_POSIX#Debian_Squeeze
(It might also happen on other platforms, but I'm not certain.)

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Re: [freenet-support] Fwd: WoT mailman password?

2010-02-03 Thread Evan Daniel
The wiki move screwed up passwords; we had to reset via the forgot
password mechanism.  Could it be a similar problem here?  Have you
tried that?

Evan Daniel

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:42 AM,  bbac...@googlemail.com wrote:
 No ideas? Is the WoT list unusable now? Should we create a new one elsewhere?


 -- Forwarded message --
 From:  bbac...@googlemail.com
 Date: Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 09:11
 Subject: WoT mailman password?
 To: support@freenetproject.org


 I am the admin of the WoT mailing list. It seems that the list was
 migrated to a new
 server, and now my valid password is no longer accepted. I didn't
 change this password.

 What went wrong here? What should I do?

 --
 __
 GnuPG key:   (0x48DBFA8A)
 Keyserver:   pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de
 Fingerprint:
 477D F057 1BD4 1AE7 8A54 8679 6690 E2EC 48DB FA8A
 __



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 __
 GnuPG key:   (0x48DBFA8A)
 Keyserver:   pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de
 Fingerprint:
 477D F057 1BD4 1AE7 8A54 8679 6690 E2EC 48DB FA8A
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Re: [freenet-support] major problems - stuck at 100%, nonresponsive

2010-01-25 Thread Evan Daniel
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Daniel Stork stork...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm having major problems with freenet on Windows, I have 60 downloads of
 which 60 have been stuck at 100% for days.
 Running freenet makes Windows completely unresponsive.
 It takes literally 10 minutes for frost to start up.
 This happened in the past. I deleted node.db4o and the permanent downloads
 folder and this fixed it for a while,
 But it goes back to the same state in a few days.
 Right now my node.db4o is 230 Mb and I don't want to lost the 60 downloads
 (almost 10 gigs total) which are complete.
 The CPU usage is 50-80% on a very strong pc.

 My questions are the following:

 1. Could the unresponsiveness be a memory issue with Java ? I have 4 gigs
 but  freenet and frost use only 160 and 210 megabytes. Is java putting  a
 limit on these somehow?
 What's the proper way to allocate memory to freenet and frost ?

Freenet has a configuration option.  You can set it from configuration
- core settings - max memory.

For frost, run it with java -Xmx256M -jar frost.jar (or whatever
setting you prefer) instead of the normal java -jar frost.jar.

It's possible your issue is Freenet memory; I'm not certain.  Please
let me know if increasing memory available helps.


 2. Does setting priority in task manager have any effect ? I noticed they
 are on below normal and cannot be changed.

I'm not certain.  Freenet normally runs most of its threads at very
low priority, and a couple at higher priority.  Reducing the priority
too far on some OSes can mean the high priority threads get starved
for CPU, causing timeouts and restarts and such.  I'm not sure if this
happens on windows.


 3. Is there a way to save these completed downloads that freenet is not
 finishing (i.e. command line utility)?

Just the normal download process.  Reducing the size of your queue
will fix the problem, and increasing the memory available may help.


 Also another issue I noticed:

 - When I select Download the file in the background and store in
 R:\Freenet\downloads or Fetch the file in the background from the freenet
 UI,
 it doesn't do anything. Are these supposed to work?

They should add the file to your download queue; they work fine here.
What does happen?  What error message are you getting?

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Re: [freenet-support] Installation Failed

2010-01-25 Thread Evan Daniel
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Alan Smith smit...@shaw.ca wrote:
 I tried Installing Twice and got the same error. See attachment.

What version of windows are you running, precisely?  64- or 32-bit?
What JVM and version?  Are you running any antivirus software?

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Re: [freenet-support] trouble installing

2010-01-17 Thread Evan Daniel
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:39 AM, closeau clos...@inbox5.com wrote:
  clos...@... writes:


 After downloading Freenet I try to install and I get an error message
 Freenet starter was unable to control the freenet system service.
 Reason: Service did not respond to signal.
 What do I have to do?

 I see that others are having the same problem as me. From what I can tell no 
 one
 has gotten an answer. Maybe this is a problem that you are addressing 
 currently
 and have not been able to resolve.Maybe you feel it is to trivial an issue to
 sddress. Either way a response to this issue would be appreciated.

As far as I know, there is no known solution to this problem.  I
believe Zero3 is working on it, but I don't know precisely how much
progress he's been able to make.  I think at present he's in need of
testers on versions of Windows he doesn't have.  See
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freenet/index.php?title=Jobs
for details; contact him if you're willing to help test.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

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Re: [freenet-support] freenet will not launch

2010-01-10 Thread Evan Daniel
See 
https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/freenet/index.php?title=Installing_on_POSIX
for fix and links to the Debian bug reports.

Evan Daniel

On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Paul Landers j.paul.land...@gmail.com wrote:
 I moved my node to a new Debian Squeeze machine, and now it will not
 launch.  When I invoke ./run.sh start these are the entries in
 wrapper.log:

 STATUS | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 17:45:36 | -- Wrapper Started as Daemon
 STATUS | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 17:45:36 | Launching a JVM...
 INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/01/10 17:45:36 | WrapperManager: Initializing...
 INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager: WARNING -
 The Wrapper jar file currently in us
 e is version 3.3.1
 INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager:
 while the version of the Wrapper whi
 ch launched this JVM is
 INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager:           3.2.3.
 INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager:
 The Wrapper may appear to work corre
 ctly but some features may
 INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager:
 not function correctly.  This config
 uration has not been tested
 INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager:
 and is not supported.
 INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager:
 INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager Error:
 Unexpected exception opening backend soc
 ket: java.net.SocketException: Invalid argument
 INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager Error:
 Unexpected exception opening backend soc
 ket: java.net.SocketException: Invalid argument
 .
 .
 .
 INFO   | jvm 1    | 2010/01/10 17:45:37 | WrapperManager Error:
 Unexpected exception opening backend soc
 u...@debianp2pserver:~/freenet_temp/freenet$ tail wrapper.log
 ADVICE | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 18:08:19 |
 http://wrapper.tanukisoftware.org/doc/english/integrate.html
 ADVICE | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 18:08:19 |
 
 ADVICE | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 18:08:19 |
 INFO   | jvm 5    | 2010/01/10 18:08:20 | WrapperManager Error:
 Unexpected exception opening backend socket: java.net.SocketException:
 Invalid argument
 ERROR  | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 18:08:20 | JVM did not exit on request,
 terminated
 INFO   | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 18:08:20 | JVM exited on its own while
 waiting to kill the application.
 STATUS | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 18:08:20 | JVM exited in response to
 signal SIGKILL (9).
 FATAL  | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 18:08:20 | There were 5 failed launches
 in a row, each lasting less than 300 seconds.  Giving up.
 FATAL  | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 18:08:20 |   There may be a
 configuration problem: please check the logs.
 STATUS | wrapper  | 2010/01/10 18:08:20 | -- Wrapper Stopped


 I then downloaded and installed a fresh node in a new directory, but
 still have the same problem.

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Re: [freenet-support] Down/uploads excessive

2010-01-08 Thread Evan Daniel
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:15 PM, nicpaul nicp...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 Hi there support,

 I installed Freenet the other day and tested a couple of links.

 Within an hour my entire monthly quota down/upload from my service provider
 had been used up. I have never approached, let alone reach my quota before!

 As that was the last day of the service month - not a problem as I didn't
 have access to full speed broadband for only one day.

 However, the same thing has occurred again. I have therefore uninstalled
 Freenet.

 This brings up cost and usage issues, plus in countries like China surely
 they only have to look for massive down/uploads to figure out who may have
 Freenet installed? Or was my installation wrong?

There's a configuration item for bandwidth limits, specified in KiB/s.
 The post-install wizard should ask about it.  Did you configure it
correctly?  Did Freenet ignore the specified limit?  (It has done that
in the past, but that was a long time ago and I haven't heard anything
of the sort recently.)

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Re: [freenet-support] BUG: Freenet does not respect size limit for datastore

2009-12-27 Thread Evan Daniel
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 10:34 AM, SmallSister development
smallsis...@xs4all.nl wrote:
 Evan Daniel wrote:
 Persistent-temp is not part of the datastore, and is not expected to
 stay within the datastore size limit.  It's used to hold data from
 partially completed downloads.  In theory, it will only grow to be
 slightly larger than your total queue size.  However, there appear to
 be some bugs that make it leak space slowly.  If it grows beyond your
 total queue size rapidly, though, that's not something I've seen.

 I can live with some additional disk-space use for downloaded files in
 transit; if it cleans up after the downloads are complete. (I planned a
 few gigs for downloads I configured Freenet.) Yet, presistent-temp grew
 over the weeks to achieve 11 GB... with several wrapper-induced
 shutdowns of Freenet. (The db4o implementation for downloads can get
 pretty unresponsive at times.)

 But with 17GB datastore (15 GB configured) PLUS 11GB in persistent-temp
 Freenet eats the best part of a 30 GB partition... Reclaiming ~9GB in
 unused temp files would make quite a difference.


The workaround for persistent-temp is to shut down the node, then
delete node.db4o and persistent-temp-*/ and restart the node.
Warning, this will remove all in-progress uploads/downloads, so let
those complete first.

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Re: [freenet-support] BUG: Freenet does not respect size limit for datastore

2009-12-25 Thread Evan Daniel
On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 7:18 AM, SmallSister development
smallsis...@xs4all.nl wrote:
 Dennis Nezic wrote:
 On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 23:03:25 +0100, SmallSister development wrote:
 Dennis Nezic wrote:
 On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 13:28:36 +0100, SmallSister development wrote:
 2) Error message on the file sharing pages:
 Internal error
 Internal error
 Return to queue page.
 [The queue page gives this error message too]
 I have posted about this bug as far back as June 12th '09, with
 freenet version 1216 and probably earlier -- basically ever since
 the db40 thing was merged :P. Toad flippantly suggested it was my
 flaky hardware (raid 5 software array) or a bug in the db40
 libraries. But the regularity of these errors (I still get them
 from time to time, and have to delete my node.db4o) makes me
 surmise otherwise.
 The error disappeared when I freed some disk space... And I got the
 data store shrunk by resizing it; it is at 40% use now. I'll clean
 out temp files and node.db4o once the downloads have completed.

 Interesting. Come to think of it, I also run pretty low on free
 diskspace ... 99% disk usage (of over 1tb) not being uncommon ...
 although that should still leave several gigs free. But, it's also
 interesting that you didn't have to delete your node.db4o file to get
 rid of the Internal error.

 And the Internal error reappeared after Freenet filled up the
 partition again overnight. persistent-temp had grown to 11 GB, which
 is  a significant chunk of a 30 GB partition.

Persistent-temp is not part of the datastore, and is not expected to
stay within the datastore size limit.  It's used to hold data from
partially completed downloads.  In theory, it will only grow to be
slightly larger than your total queue size.  However, there appear to
be some bugs that make it leak space slowly.  If it grows beyond your
total queue size rapidly, though, that's not something I've seen.

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Re: [freenet-support] Bug: 'Freenet Download button is not func...'

2009-12-10 Thread Evan Daniel
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:26 AM, UserVoice supp...@uservoice.com wrote:

 manojmast...@aol.com wrote:

 Freenet Download button is not functioning. I am being redirected next 
 page, displaying some code error.

 On http://freenetproject.org/index.html
 Using Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.3) 
 Gecko/20090824 Firefox/3.5.3

This should be fixed now.  Please try again, and let us know if you
experience any difficulties.

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Re: [freenet-support] Bug: 'I can't download (0.7.5 for Windows).'

2009-12-10 Thread Evan Daniel
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 7:52 AM, UserVoice supp...@uservoice.com wrote:

 davide.min...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can't download (0.7.5 for Windows).

 On http://freenetproject.org/
 Using Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/532.0 
 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/3.0.195.33 Safari/532.0

This should be fixed now.  If you have any further problems, let us know.

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Re: [freenet-support] Not enought entropy on headless system

2009-12-10 Thread Evan Daniel
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Marco A. Calamari marc...@dada.it wrote:

 I installed today Freenet on a headless Soekris 5501
  (Geode I586 compatible processor) running Debian Lenny

 The node hangs during boot with the message

 There isn't enough entropy available on your system...
 Freenet won't start until it can gather enough.

 and stalls forever; the old find trick doesn't work
  either.

 I suppose that Freenet uses /dev/random as entropy source;
  can I redirect on urandom ?

 Many thanks.   Marco

You could probably do that, but I would recommend against it.  Good
random numbers important for securing cryptographic applications.

My recommendation would be to install something like turbid (
http://www.av8n.com/turbid/ ) to get a secure source of random
numbers.  (There are a few other programs that do similar things, but
turbid is the only one I know of that makes guarantees about the
*minimum* entropy content of its output, which is what cryptographic
applications care about.)

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Re: [freenet-support] Wget'ing freenet:USKs

2009-11-18 Thread Evan Daniel
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Dennis Nezic
denn...@dennisn.dyndns.org wrote:
 On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:44:07 -0500, Evan Daniel wrote:
 On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 7:36 AM, Dennis Nezic
 denn...@dennisn.dyndns.org wrote:
  What is the purpose of the freenet: notation? (Besides
  complicating things.)
 
  When I try to wget -r -np a freesite, most links will not be
  fetched
  -- namely those that still use the ubiquitous /USK... url.
  (Because -np, --no-parent, is meant to only fetch files within a
  particular directory and not ascend to other parent directories,
  thus preventing the fetching of the entire Internet.) So
  because /USK.. and /freenet:USK.. are effectively two different
  parent folders, simply using -np won't work.
 
  Instead of -np I have to explicitly list the key in both
  notations as parameters to --include-directories .. resulting in
  a hideous command line. (Which includes the USK key 3 times.)
 
  I wouldn't mind doing this if there was SOME reason for it? (Was it
  meant to be used as a protocol identifier, like http: mailto:, etc?)
  But is it really necessary to 301 Permanently Move queries to the
  freenet:* links?

 It is in fact a protocol identifier, like http:, mailto:, irc:, etc.
 The idea is that the proper URL of a Freenet file is something like
 freenet:u...@crypto/sitename/edition/filename.  The FProxy web
 interface provides, for convenience, a way to translate freenet: URLs
 into http: ones.

 Eventually, it would be nice to support this in other ways.  For
 example, FProxy should rewrite freenet: URLs into the appropriate
 http: equivalent.  Alternately, a browser plugin that knew how to
 handle freenet: URLs (ie, translate them into http: and then handle
 normally), and prevented downloading of content from any other URL
 type would improve security and require less content filtering (thus
 making it easier to support more complex file types).  See bug 3414:
 https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=3414

 Would it help if the content filter rewrote all /u...@... URLs into
 /freenet:u...@...?  That would probably be a fairly easy change.
 (The content filter already does URL rewriting, to insert the checked
 http pages for example.)  If so, please file a bug report.

 Hrrm. I'm no expert, but doesn't the /freenet:u...@... URL syntax seem
 wrong? The protocol should be the first thing, not in the pathname? And
 it would only make sense if it was from some external non-fproxy
 source, no? I mean, if the user is already accessing fproxy, what's the
 point of freenet: references?

 It seems to me that having fproxy automatically redirect
 all /USK@ /CHK@ /SSK@ links to /freenet:USK@ links is pointless in the
 first place ... and getting rid of this redirection should solve the
 problem and simplify things too :).

No, the / at the beginning is perfectly correct.

Your browser has no clue how to handle a freenet: URL.  The / at the
front means it should use that as an absolute path to construct an
http: URL from, using the current server (typically 127.0.0.1:).
FProxy provides a translation layer that gets the corresponding
freenet: URL over http in that format.

The proper URL of a Freenet document is not u...@blah or
http://127.0.0.1:/u...@blah; or even
http://127.0.0.1:/freenet:u...@blah;.  It's freenet:u...@blah.
The http version is simply a translation that your browser (and wget,
etc) knows what to do with.

URLs are supposed to begin with a protocol: identifier.  Including
only a portion of the correct URL in the translation layer, while not
exactly wrong, seems silly.  The proper solution is to make sure that
all http: URLs for Freenet documents follow the same format.  As long
as that format is consistent, I don't think there's any problem with
wget and such.

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Re: [freenet-support] Wget'ing freenet:USKs

2009-11-15 Thread Evan Daniel
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 7:36 AM, Dennis Nezic
denn...@dennisn.dyndns.org wrote:
 What is the purpose of the freenet: notation? (Besides complicating
 things.)

 When I try to wget -r -np a freesite, most links will not be fetched
 -- namely those that still use the ubiquitous /USK... url. (Because
 -np, --no-parent, is meant to only fetch files within a particular
 directory and not ascend to other parent directories, thus preventing
 the fetching of the entire Internet.) So because /USK..
 and /freenet:USK.. are effectively two different parent folders, simply
 using -np won't work.

 Instead of -np I have to explicitly list the key in both notations as
 parameters to --include-directories .. resulting in a hideous command
 line. (Which includes the USK key 3 times.)

 I wouldn't mind doing this if there was SOME reason for it? (Was it
 meant to be used as a protocol identifier, like http: mailto:, etc?)
 But is it really necessary to 301 Permanently Move queries to the
 freenet:* links?

It is in fact a protocol identifier, like http:, mailto:, irc:, etc.
The idea is that the proper URL of a Freenet file is something like
freenet:u...@crypto/sitename/edition/filename.  The FProxy web
interface provides, for convenience, a way to translate freenet: URLs
into http: ones.

Eventually, it would be nice to support this in other ways.  For
example, FProxy should rewrite freenet: URLs into the appropriate
http: equivalent.  Alternately, a browser plugin that knew how to
handle freenet: URLs (ie, translate them into http: and then handle
normally), and prevented downloading of content from any other URL
type would improve security and require less content filtering (thus
making it easier to support more complex file types).  See bug 3414:
https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=3414

Would it help if the content filter rewrote all /u...@... URLs into
/freenet:u...@...?  That would probably be a fairly easy change.
(The content filter already does URL rewriting, to insert the checked
http pages for example.)  If so, please file a bug report.

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Re: [freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 50, Issue 9

2009-11-10 Thread Evan Daniel
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:58 AM, freenet free...@pacbell.net wrote:

 On Nov 9, 2009, at 17:16:24 +0100, bimbek bimbek...@gmail.com wrote:


 Oh, with all the respect Matthew Toseland, you did not need to ban
 the poor
 guy.

 I hope that one day you will not ban all of us just because some US
 court
 would say that using freenet is illegal...

 Did anyone catch the irony that the Freenet Project - that is
 dedicated to overcoming censorship and promoting absolute free speech
 for all worldwide - has just banned, censored if you will, someone
 from a simple support e-mail list?

 But from the Freenet web site at http://freenetproject.org/philosophy.html
 :

 You cannot guarantee freedom of speech and enforce copyright law. It
 is for this reason that Freenet, a system designed to protect Freedom
 of Speech, must prevent enforcement of copyright.

Freenet must operate under the laws of both the US and the UK.  What's
surprising, exactly?

If you want support for illegal activities, don't look for it on
moderated, non-anonymous forums like this email list!  How surprising
is that?  Seriously, if you want to discuss illegal activities,
shouldn't you be using something like, I don't know, Freenet?

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Re: [freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 50, Issue 9

2009-11-10 Thread Evan Daniel
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:14 AM,  urza9...@gmail.com wrote:
 Freenet is exactly what was being discussed. He wasn't looking for
 support for illegal activities, he was looking for support for
 Freenet, which he happened to be using in a way that in certain
 countries is illegal. So should we refuse support to anyone asking for
 help with freenet if their use of it happens to be illegal in, say,
 China?

 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Evan Daniel eva...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:58 AM, freenet free...@pacbell.net wrote:

 On Nov 9, 2009, at 17:16:24 +0100, bimbek bimbek...@gmail.com wrote:


 Oh, with all the respect Matthew Toseland, you did not need to ban
 the poor
 guy.

 I hope that one day you will not ban all of us just because some US
 court
 would say that using freenet is illegal...

 Did anyone catch the irony that the Freenet Project - that is
 dedicated to overcoming censorship and promoting absolute free speech
 for all worldwide - has just banned, censored if you will, someone
 from a simple support e-mail list?

 But from the Freenet web site at http://freenetproject.org/philosophy.html
 :

 You cannot guarantee freedom of speech and enforce copyright law. It
 is for this reason that Freenet, a system designed to protect Freedom
 of Speech, must prevent enforcement of copyright.

 Freenet must operate under the laws of both the US and the UK.  What's
 surprising, exactly?

 If you want support for illegal activities, don't look for it on
 moderated, non-anonymous forums like this email list!  How surprising
 is that?  Seriously, if you want to discuss illegal activities,
 shouldn't you be using something like, I don't know, Freenet?

What part of this is confusing?  Freenet must operate according to the
laws of the US and UK.  Chinese law has as little to do with it as
French law.  The best legal advice we have says not to offer support
to people known to be engaged in piracy.  Not don't support piracy
-- don't offer support to people engaged in it!  That means banning
people who admit to it.

If you want support for your illegal activities, get it on Freenet or
some other secure, anonymous forum.  This email list is not such a
forum!  Whether that lines up with how you wish the world worked or
not is completely irrelevant.

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Re: [freenet-support] Strange behavior of the MIME type detection

2009-10-29 Thread Evan Daniel
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 6:51 AM, henri godron enjoy...@gmail.com wrote:
 I wanted to ask something, I think it is related : Do you see, sometime when
 downloading a file (like a .zip or .png for example) fproxy telling you that
 the file is .zip.bin or .png.bin with an unknown mime type ?
 Can someone try with this file please ? It's a new one, I had it from fms..

 c...@soksfw9pa0eswrfpbmfredzpqofwki2a98etiwryfvy,MYbngaOGBPcqAHOfB0QAAVIj05Lh7N4iTMcYu15FOI,AAIC--8/20percent.png

 I have an error on this file and fproxy is saying it's percent.png.bin !

 Does it do the same for you guys ?

It's helpful to include the error :)

I get Failed to decode a block: Crypto key too short.  That means
exactly what it sounds like: the crypto key is shorter than it should
be.  It only has 42 characters; it should have 43.  That almost
certainly means someone messed up when copy/pasting the key.

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Re: [freenet-support] Insertion list freezes when having 100++ insertions

2009-10-27 Thread Evan Daniel
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 6:15 AM, henri godron enjoy...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I made a 140 files (40Kb each) insertion yesterday for testing, and I could
 see the first 100 insertions in FPROXY. Since then, my other 40 insertions
 were stopped. I restarted the freenet service (under Windows Vista). Freenet
 works well but i can't see the insertion page (neither from Thaw) as the
 browser it's constantly waiting for 127.0.0.1.

 In my statistic panel in fproxy i have  : requests : 78 au total, 50 CHK,
 52 SSK (3 locales)

 I think this 78 total requests are related to my insertions and maybe
 that's why the fproxy page of the insertions is waiting ?

 What do you think ?

This may be fixed in the current testing version of Freenet; you can
try it by running update.cmd testing.  We'd like to know whether
that fixes it for you.

The Current Activity box on the statistics page is only loosely
related.  It includes both locally originated requests / inserts, and
those from other nodes.  If you queue several large files, those
represent a large number of requests (or inserts) of 32kB blocks; they
are queued and handled a few at a time.  You shouldn't expect to see
much relationship between how many files you have queued and the
current activity statistics.

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Re: [freenet-support] Peer connections

2009-10-16 Thread Evan Daniel
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:06 AM,  l...@hushmail.com wrote:

 Hey Evan.

 I tried that site but it doesn't open or exist.
 I have gone to quite a few sites concerning how to forward ports
 and so far none of them instruct how to, just this is what you
 need to do. Frustrating to say the least.

 Since you say I am connected, how to I contact whoever I am
 connected to? I have searched through all the pages of Freenet I
 can access but nothing that shows or leads me into the path or
 manner of trying to contact any of these connected ones.

 Thanks
 On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 09:40:47 +0700 Evan Daniel eva...@gmail.com
 wrote:
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:41 PM,  l...@hushmail.com wrote:
 Hello people.
 I have these peers and they are connected. I am assuming
 connected to me in some manner.
 In order to connect to them, I have to give them something,
and/or
 get something from them.

 Where, no, how do I find their info in order to connect?
 I know I can send my noderef but where do I find theirs?

 Also, the message in the window mentions using a certain port. I
 think it says something like UDP but since I don't have that
page
 open please forgive me if I got the letters wrong.

 SIGH! Again, it mentions forwarding this port and I cannot seem
to
 understand how to do this.

You already have everything you need to connect to them.  You can
tell
because you're connected to them.  Similarly, they have everything
they need.

There are plenty of people who can do a better job than I
explaining
how to forward a port.  Some of them have done so on this mailing
list; some of those, recently.  I suggest checking the list
archives.
Alternately, google can help:
http://www.google.com/q=how+to+forward+a+port

If you need further help on forwarding ports, I recommend you consult
the manual for your router.

There is no way to communicate directly with your opennet peers.  Your
node is connected to them, and routing requests for them (and vice
versa), but that doesn't mean all that much.  If you want to talk to
people, I suggest using an app like Frost, FMS, or Freetalk.  Think of
Freenet like a giant game of Telephone (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_%28game%29 ) or Six Degrees of
Kevin Bacon ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Degrees_of_Kevin_Bacon
).  Your node sends and receives messages, but who it sends them to or
receives them from is only peripherally related to where they came
from or where they're going.  So don't worry about who your opennet
peers are; they're just semi-random people who use Freenet.

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Re: [freenet-support] Peer connections

2009-10-14 Thread Evan Daniel
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 9:41 PM,  l...@hushmail.com wrote:
 Hello people.
 I have these peers and they are connected. I am assuming
 connected to me in some manner.
 In order to connect to them, I have to give them something, and/or
 get something from them.

 Where, no, how do I find their info in order to connect?
 I know I can send my noderef but where do I find theirs?

 Also, the message in the window mentions using a certain port. I
 think it says something like UDP but since I don't have that page
 open please forgive me if I got the letters wrong.

 SIGH! Again, it mentions forwarding this port and I cannot seem to
 understand how to do this.

You already have everything you need to connect to them.  You can tell
because you're connected to them.  Similarly, they have everything
they need.

There are plenty of people who can do a better job than I explaining
how to forward a port.  Some of them have done so on this mailing
list; some of those, recently.  I suggest checking the list archives.
Alternately, google can help:
http://www.google.com/q=how+to+forward+a+port

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Re: [freenet-support] storage stats bug

2009-10-10 Thread Evan Daniel
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 5:26 PM, Toni Bergman toni.berg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Installing while offline causes store and cache to stay at 0 keys/bytes.
 Resizing store fixes it
 1223 was the last version of freenet that actually worked. But I guess the
 term: if it aint broke dont fix it. Has newer reached that far.
 For example
 Certain someone said (not per word):
 1) This version of freenet works, we can now try more disruptive changes
 2) Then that certain someone made those disruptive changes and prevented
 connecting to freenet 1223 with the disruptive changes versions
 Yes I undestand disruptive changes can be tried once you get something
 right.
 No I do not understand preventing the working version from connecting again.

 Please don't reply to me, just feel bad about whoever's logic.

No such decision was made, as far as I know.  I don't know of any
known-broken changes that were released.

It has been months since 1224 was released.  How do you expect us to
know that something broke if you don't report it?  Stop making
assumptions: if a bug is introduced in a new version, the developers
probably don't know about it.  REPORT IT.

Those of us actually working on Freenet don't tend to consider it as
being in the ain't broke state.  Data retention sucks, speed is
somewhere between ok and awful depending, security is far weaker than
we'd like, etc, etc.  Most changes are attempts to fix known bugs,
improve usability, or fix the aforementioned gross deficiencies.  I
can't fathom why you would want Freenet to stop improving.

Also, for the record: some of the recent mandatory build requirements
have been at my personal request.  Those requests were made as part of
an effort to improve what limited data collection I can do, with the
specific aim of doing exactly what you ask for: namely, measuring
whether new builds help or hurt things.  They're not aimed at the
relatively simple problems you seem to be having, but rather the far
more subtle sort like request routing and data reachability, that are
impossible to analyze on a single node or small test network, and
extremely difficult to measure on the live network.

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Re: [freenet-support] No subject

2009-10-10 Thread Evan Daniel
 undocumented and write a cursory
explanation, then plenty of people will find it useful -- and you'll
get *more* complaints, not fewer.

So, if you want improved documentation, you should be willing to
improve it yourself.  We have a wiki ( http://wiki.freenetproject.org/
); feel free to add to existing pages or start new ones.  I'm willing
to answer questions, but I will be much, much happier about the
prospect if the results are going to help more than one person.  So,
if the questions you have aren't answered in the docs / wiki / etc,
and someone takes the time to answer them for you, then we would
probably be very appreciative if you took the time to add some of
those answers to the wiki so that someone else could get the benefit
of them as well.

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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet uninstall for new Build install

2009-10-09 Thread Evan Daniel
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:38 AM,  l...@hushmail.com wrote:
 On  Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:04:34 +0700, Evan Daniel wrote:
 Please send replies to the support list; it makes it easier for
 others
 to help with the problem, and for anyone with the same problem to
 see
 the answer.  (Unless, of course, you're sending info you'd like
 kept
 private.)

 Sorry about that. I will post to support from now on and thank you
 for directing me to the proper procedures. I like that.

 I think I'm sort of averaging around 8-10 peers. I accidentally
 clicked something and it opened a separate tab showing connected

  and one busy. This was with a total of 19 peers at the time.

If it's showing that, then you have a sufficiently recent version of
Freenet running, and it is almost certainly running without any major
network problems.

Are you still having problems with warnings about updating?


 I don't know about this next thing.
 The Freenet Installer icon was on my desktop. I just put it into a
 folder. When I opened the folder to look at it (for no good
 reason), there was the icon with these words;  Freenet Installer-
 1233.
 The Freenet page that opens says 1236. Like I said, I downloaded a
 new one yesterday but it's called, freenet-0.7.0-rc1.new-install.
 The site said it was the latest.
 That doesn't look like the latest to me.

 I have found Build 1236 and will install it.

 How do I uninstall Freenet 1233, Freemail, Frost etc.?

 I am not a command line person but have tried several things.
 'cmd' and then tried to go to the Freenet directory or folder to
 change what others have suggested. I also tried 'promt', then
 typing in the path but can't get past this message:

 C:\Program\Files\Freenet\ is not recognized as an internal or
 external command operable program or batch file.

You're probably looking for the command cd as in cd c:\program
files\.  Or, more generally:
http://www.google.com/search?q=windows+command+line+introduction


 Anyway, I'm about fed up with it. I keep searching but cannot find
 anything that tells me 'how' to do certain things. The instructions

 only say this is what one needs to do. I repeat, I need to know
 how.

In general, when the Freenet documentation doesn't explain the
details, that's because it's a normal part of using your computer that
is not specific to Freenet.  For example, uninstalling is done through
the control panel on Windows, apt on Debian, emerge on Gentoo, and
other methods on other OSes.  That means that googling for general
instructions on how to do such things on your computer will help.

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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet version

2009-10-08 Thread Evan Daniel
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 7:35 AM,  l...@hushmail.com wrote:
 Hi again.
 Well, I've looked there, the stats page, and also at the bottom of
 the Freenet window when it opens. It tells me the version in both
 places and they are the same, 0.7.5, Build #1236

 I downloaded it from the Freenet Project site.



Please send replies to the support list; it makes it easier for others
to help with the problem, and for anyone with the same problem to see
the answer.  (Unless, of course, you're sending info you'd like kept
private.)

I have no idea why it would be saying you need to update, given that
you have the latest version.

If you look at your stats page, in the Peer Statistics box, how many
peers does it show?  Ideally, you should have a moderate number
(~10-40, depending on bandwidth) as either CONNECTED of BACKED OFF
(aka BUSY), with most of those CONNECTED.  If your version truly is
old, it will show a few peers as TOO NEW.  Do you have connected
peers?  Do you have peers that are too new?

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Re: [freenet-support] 'wassupport?

2009-10-07 Thread Evan Daniel
On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 10:58 PM,  l...@hushmail.com wrote:
 HI.,
 Can anyone tell me how to open Freemail after it has been set up? I
 cannot find it.

 Also, what is the most recent build of the Freenet node software?
 I found 0.7.5 Build #1230. Which way are the numbers going?
 I have installed 0.7.5 Build #1236 but as I have written to
 support about, Freenet tells me that is too old.

The latest version of Freenet is 0.7.5 build 1236.

If your Freenet software is telling you it is too old, then it is
older than that.  How are you determining which version you have
installed?  The recommended way is to look at your stats page, in the
Node Version Information box.

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Re: [freenet-support] New to Freenet/need help

2009-10-04 Thread Evan Daniel
On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 9:46 AM,  l...@hushmail.com wrote:
 Hello.
 I am having some problems as a newbie. Hope someone will help me
 out. They may seem clear and simple to others but they are not to
 me. Sorry 'bout that.

 Freenet tells me it is trying to connect to my external IP and that
 I can use the Temporary IP Address hint. How?
 What is it I am supposed enter in that window and where do I find
 that information?

 Also, it tells me to forward three ports. Again, how does one do
 such a thing? I've never forwarded a port or an email so I need
 help here also.

 It also informs me that I am using a node or version, (0.7.0) that
 is horribly old and I should update. I have tried in the
 configurations drop down and it says configurations are
 successfully changed but I don't know if that is in fact the
 correct update. It still tells me each time I go to Freenet that my
 node is very, very old. HELP!

 Lastly, how does one go about finding friends on Freenet or
 Frost. It says to only connect to friends but I don't know anyone
 using Freenet or Frost. I am in a country that blocks many sites. I
 think the most in the world, so any real help would be greatly
 appreciated. It would be so nice to be able to talk with someone
 about different things while learning more about Freenet and Frost
 and how to use them to achieve the best safety and anonymity one
 can.
 Thanks again.

The update that Freenet is referring to is changing the version of the
software to a newer one; this is not the same thing at all as changing
configuration settings.  Freenet should be able to update itself, but
first you need to get it connected.

On the stats page (found at http://127.0.0.1:/stats/ ), you can
find how many peers you are connected to (under the peer statistics
box, count both connected and backed off peers).  This number
should be greater than zero, but I suspect that in your case it is
not.

When Freenet says you should connect to friends, it means that
literally.  Friends are people you know and trust; you get them by
talking to people.  They can be people you know in real life or from
the Internet, but they should be real people you know and trust.
Freenet does not have any special meaning for the word that's
different than the ordinary one.

Most people don't know anyone using Freenet, and so can't connect to
Friends.  That's fine, Freenet can still work, but it is less secure.
Your node (ie the copy of the Freenet software that you are running)
needs to talk to other nodes; these nodes are the ones most able to
figure out what you are doing.  If you don't know anyone running
Freenet, then those nodes will be run by strangers; that's fine, but
obviously less secure.

Because of the reduced security inherent in letting your Freenet node
talk to strangers, Freenet requires explicit confirmation that this is
ok.  That's what the security level settings are for; in order to use
opennet (allowing your node to talk to strangers), which is the only
way to run Freenet if you don't have any friends using it, you need to
go to the security levels config page (
http://127.0.0.1:/seclevels/ ) and set the level for Protection
against a stranger attacking you over the Internet to Normal.

If you had set that level to High previously, it would cause (some of
the) problems you are seeing.  Was that the case?  Does changing it
help?

The IP address and port forwarding problems are a bit technical.  For
the first, go to a site like http://www.whatismyip.com/ and type the
number it gives you into the IP Address Hint box.

For port forwarding, you'll need to go to the configuration options
for your router or firewall; this may be a separate physical box, or
it may be integrated into your cable / dsl modem.  It should have come
with instructions on how to get to the configuration page.  Follow
those, and forward the ports as requested by Freenet.  If you're using
a software firewall, the same basic procedure applies.  If you need
more detailed help than that, I suggest looking up port forwarding on
Google, or asking for more info here.

Evan Daniel
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Re: [freenet-support] Support Digest, Vol 48, Issue 12

2009-09-17 Thread Evan Daniel
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 1:37 AM, freenet free...@pacbell.net wrote:

 On Sep 16, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Evan Daniel eva...@gmail.com wrote:

 Message: 6
 Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:46:22 -0400
 From: Evan Daniel eva...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [freenet-support] My node keeps loosing all it's opennet
       connections
 To: support@freenetproject.org
 Message-ID:
       4f9383510909160946r5bbe70f6rc6eb5069e95...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Matthew Toseland
 t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote:
 On Tuesday 15 September 2009 15:15:47 freenet wrote:
 Every few days my node just looses all it's connections.

 Restarting the node does not solve the problem. Usually I have to
 shut
 the node down completely for about two days. When I restart it,
 after
 about 10 minutes it starts getting connections. One time I
 downloaded
 a new seednodes.fref file and that seemed to get the connections
 started again.

 I think there is a bug where the node keeps trying to contact one or
 two nodes on IP addresses that are no longer valid. For example,
 this
 time I see the following two errors over and over and over and over
 again in the logs:

 Sep 15, 2009 04:10:05:527 (freenet.io.comm.UdpSocketHandler,
 PacketSender thread for 60973, ERROR): Error while sending packet to
 128.222.3.103:18143: java.io.IOException: No route to host
 java.io.IOException: No route to host
 ? ? ? at java.net.PlainDatagramSocketImpl.send(Native Method)
 ? ? ? at java.net.DatagramSocket.send(DatagramSocket.java:612)
 ? ? ? at
 freenet.io.comm.UdpSocketHandler.sendPacket(UdpSocketHandler.java:
 247)
 ? ? ? at
 freenet.node.FNPPacketMangler.sendPacket(FNPPacketMangler.java:1794)
 ? ? ? at
 freenet.node.FNPPacketMangler.sendAuthPacket(FNPPacketMangler.java:
 1781)
 ? ? ? at
 freenet
 .node.FNPPacketMangler.sendAnonAuthPacket(FNPPacketMangler.java:
 1739)
 ? ? ? at
 freenet
 .node.FNPPacketMangler.sendJFKMessage1(FNPPacketMangler.java:839)
 ? ? ? at
 freenet.node.FNPPacketMangler.sendHandshake(FNPPacketMangler.java:
 2876)
 ? ? ? at freenet.node.PacketSender.realRun(PacketSender.java:247)
 ? ? ? at freenet.node.PacketSender.run(PacketSender.java:126)
 ? ? ? at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:637)
 ? ? ? at freenet.support.io.NativeThread.run(NativeThread.java:100)
 Sep 15, 2009 04:10:10:555 (freenet.node.PeerManager, PacketSender
 thread for 60973, NORMAL): Connected: 0 ?Routing Backed Off: 0 ?Too
 New: 0 ?Too Old: 0 Disconnected: 14 ?Never Connected: 18 ?
 Disabled: 0
 Bursting: 1 ?Listening: 0 ?Listen Only: 0 ?Clock Problem: 0
 Connection Problem: 0 ?Disconnecting: 0
 Sep 15, 2009 04:10:13:471 (freenet.io.comm.UdpSocketHandler,
 PacketSender thread for 60973, ERROR): Error while sending packet to
 5.4.174.104:60115: java.io.IOException: No route to host
 java.io.IOException: No route to host
 ? ? ? at java.net.PlainDatagramSocketImpl.send(Native Method)
 ? ? ? at java.net.DatagramSocket.send(DatagramSocket.java:612)
 ? ? ? at
 freenet.io.comm.UdpSocketHandler.sendPacket(UdpSocketHandler.java:
 247)
 ? ? ? at
 freenet.node.FNPPacketMangler.sendPacket(FNPPacketMangler.java:1794)
 ? ? ? at
 freenet.node.FNPPacketMangler.sendAuthPacket(FNPPacketMangler.java:
 1781)
 ? ? ? at
 freenet
 .node.FNPPacketMangler.sendAnonAuthPacket(FNPPacketMangler.java:
 1739)
 ? ? ? at
 freenet
 .node.FNPPacketMangler.sendJFKMessage1(FNPPacketMangler.java:839)
 ? ? ? at
 freenet.node.FNPPacketMangler.sendHandshake(FNPPacketMangler.java:
 2876)
 ? ? ? at freenet.node.PacketSender.realRun(PacketSender.java:247)
 ? ? ? at freenet.node.PacketSender.run(PacketSender.java:126)
 ? ? ? at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:637)
 ? ? ? at freenet.support.io.NativeThread.run(NativeThread.java:100)


 My Internet connection is working fine. Those two IP addresses are
 not
 reachable and the node is stuck in a loop trying to get to them. One
 other temporary fix was to edit the seednodes.fref file and remove
 the
 nodes with the unreachable IP addresses.

 Freenet 0.7.5 Build #1233 build01233
 Freenet-ext Build #26 r23771

 # Java Version: 1.6.0_15
 # JVM Vendor: Apple Inc.
 # JVM Version: 14.1-b02-92
 # OS Name: Mac OS X
 # OS Version: 10.5.8
 # OS Architecture: x86_64

 Sure seems like a serious bug to me.

 Sounds like a serious bug in your internet connection. We do indeed
 repeatedly send handshaking packets to all our peers' IP addresses
 and this is normal and expected behaviour if two of them have
 invalid addresses.

 The first of those IP addresses listed looks like my node.  I'm not
 sure why it made that one public; it should be using
 evanbd.dyndns.org.  That IP is indeed not routable to the outside
 world; apparently my noderef is from when I was running on my father's
 strangely configured network (something about needing to be able to
 VPN into networks that collectively used all the various
 reserved-for-private nets address spaces, so he chose something
 unreserved that he knew to be unroutable).

 My updated

Re: [freenet-support] My node keeps loosing all it's opennet connections

2009-09-16 Thread Evan Daniel
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Matthew Toseland
t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote:
 On Tuesday 15 September 2009 15:15:47 freenet wrote:
 Every few days my node just looses all it's connections.

 Restarting the node does not solve the problem. Usually I have to shut
 the node down completely for about two days. When I restart it, after
 about 10 minutes it starts getting connections. One time I downloaded
 a new seednodes.fref file and that seemed to get the connections
 started again.

 I think there is a bug where the node keeps trying to contact one or
 two nodes on IP addresses that are no longer valid. For example, this
 time I see the following two errors over and over and over and over
 again in the logs:

 Sep 15, 2009 04:10:05:527 (freenet.io.comm.UdpSocketHandler,
 PacketSender thread for 60973, ERROR): Error while sending packet to
 128.222.3.103:18143: java.io.IOException: No route to host
 java.io.IOException: No route to host
       at java.net.PlainDatagramSocketImpl.send(Native Method)
       at java.net.DatagramSocket.send(DatagramSocket.java:612)
       at freenet.io.comm.UdpSocketHandler.sendPacket(UdpSocketHandler.java:
 247)
       at freenet.node.FNPPacketMangler.sendPacket(FNPPacketMangler.java:1794)
       at freenet.node.FNPPacketMangler.sendAuthPacket(FNPPacketMangler.java:
 1781)
       at
 freenet.node.FNPPacketMangler.sendAnonAuthPacket(FNPPacketMangler.java:
 1739)
       at
 freenet.node.FNPPacketMangler.sendJFKMessage1(FNPPacketMangler.java:839)
       at freenet.node.FNPPacketMangler.sendHandshake(FNPPacketMangler.java:
 2876)
       at freenet.node.PacketSender.realRun(PacketSender.java:247)
       at freenet.node.PacketSender.run(PacketSender.java:126)
       at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:637)
       at freenet.support.io.NativeThread.run(NativeThread.java:100)
 Sep 15, 2009 04:10:10:555 (freenet.node.PeerManager, PacketSender
 thread for 60973, NORMAL): Connected: 0  Routing Backed Off: 0  Too
 New: 0  Too Old: 0 Disconnected: 14  Never Connected: 18  Disabled: 0
 Bursting: 1  Listening: 0  Listen Only: 0  Clock Problem: 0
 Connection Problem: 0  Disconnecting: 0
 Sep 15, 2009 04:10:13:471 (freenet.io.comm.UdpSocketHandler,
 PacketSender thread for 60973, ERROR): Error while sending packet to
 5.4.174.104:60115: java.io.IOException: No route to host
 java.io.IOException: No route to host
       at java.net.PlainDatagramSocketImpl.send(Native Method)
       at java.net.DatagramSocket.send(DatagramSocket.java:612)
       at freenet.io.comm.UdpSocketHandler.sendPacket(UdpSocketHandler.java:
 247)
       at freenet.node.FNPPacketMangler.sendPacket(FNPPacketMangler.java:1794)
       at freenet.node.FNPPacketMangler.sendAuthPacket(FNPPacketMangler.java:
 1781)
       at
 freenet.node.FNPPacketMangler.sendAnonAuthPacket(FNPPacketMangler.java:
 1739)
       at
 freenet.node.FNPPacketMangler.sendJFKMessage1(FNPPacketMangler.java:839)
       at freenet.node.FNPPacketMangler.sendHandshake(FNPPacketMangler.java:
 2876)
       at freenet.node.PacketSender.realRun(PacketSender.java:247)
       at freenet.node.PacketSender.run(PacketSender.java:126)
       at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:637)
       at freenet.support.io.NativeThread.run(NativeThread.java:100)


 My Internet connection is working fine. Those two IP addresses are not
 reachable and the node is stuck in a loop trying to get to them. One
 other temporary fix was to edit the seednodes.fref file and remove the
 nodes with the unreachable IP addresses.

 Freenet 0.7.5 Build #1233 build01233
 Freenet-ext Build #26 r23771

 # Java Version: 1.6.0_15
 # JVM Vendor: Apple Inc.
 # JVM Version: 14.1-b02-92
 # OS Name: Mac OS X
 # OS Version: 10.5.8
 # OS Architecture: x86_64

 Sure seems like a serious bug to me.

 Sounds like a serious bug in your internet connection. We do indeed 
 repeatedly send handshaking packets to all our peers' IP addresses and this 
 is normal and expected behaviour if two of them have invalid addresses.

The first of those IP addresses listed looks like my node.  I'm not
sure why it made that one public; it should be using
evanbd.dyndns.org.  That IP is indeed not routable to the outside
world; apparently my noderef is from when I was running on my father's
strangely configured network (something about needing to be able to
VPN into networks that collectively used all the various
reserved-for-private nets address spaces, so he chose something
unreserved that he knew to be unroutable).

My updated noderef is below.  I've manually examined it for obvious
errors.  I've left the ip address in it; that is the correct external
ip for my node.  However, it's a dhcp address (though an infrequently
changing one), so it should probably removed to leave only the dyndns
name if that won't cause any problems.

Evan Daniel

opennet=true
identity=hP0uNEAg4CgfqeovGWyB0N2EbOy2WpnD6bihF1kOP3k
lastGoodVersion=Fred,0.7,1.0,1231
sig

Re: [freenet-support] About store statistics not updating

2009-09-08 Thread Evan Daniel
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Toni Bergmantoni.berg...@gmail.com wrote:
 https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=3465
 I saw that bug about a guy's datastore being only 10 GB filled over a year
 and figure I'd report something I thought about skipping.

 After I updated to

 Freenet 0.7.5 Build #1233 build01233
 Freenet-ext Build #26 r23771

 I've noticed that my cache is now 10GB/100GB and the number of keys or the
 size of cache isn't increasing. (328 281 keys)
 So maybe another stats bug
 Store sizes aren't moving either, they haven't reached 10GB yet.

So your cache is both not full, and not growing?  Ditto your store?
How many keys are in each, out of what capacity?  For example, my node
shows:
Keys474,302 2,637,633
Capacity3,068,885   3,068,886

It is normal for your store to fill very, very slowly.  It's not
desirable, but it is the expected behavior at present.

Evan Daniel
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Re: [freenet-support] Mac - Java

2009-08-27 Thread Evan Daniel
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Matthew
Toselandt...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote:
 On Wednesday 26 August 2009 20:01:44 Plantaginus wrote:
 Java to old.

 Instelled versions:

 Java Applications:

 Java SE6 64-bit
 J2SE 5.0 64-bit
 J2SE 5.0 32-bit
 J2se 1.4.2 32-bit

 That's all I could get via software update.

 Known problem, Apple's fault. Sorry, not much we can do until Apple releases 
 a new JVM based on 1.6.0_15 or 1.5.0_20.

I believe OSX 10.6 includes updated versions.  Apparently Apple
doesn't consider remote code execution vulnerabilities serious enough
to warrant a rapid patch to older versions of OSX, though.

Evan Daniel
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Re: [freenet-support] How can I undo the automatic messaging to my yahoo mailbox?

2009-08-26 Thread Evan Daniel
There is a link at the bottom of every email to unsubscribe:
http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 4:54 AM, richard
hepplewhiterichardhepplewh...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Dear Michael,

 How can I undo the automatic messaging to my yahoo mailbox?

 Thank you very much!

 Richard.

 --- On Sat, 8/22/09, Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote:

 From: Matthew Toseland t...@amphibian.dyndns.org
 Subject: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 build 1232
 To: Discussion of development issues d...@freenetproject.org,
 support@freenetproject.org
 Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 11:44 PM

 Sorry folks, don't use 1231 (fortunately the upload to the auto-update
 didn't complete), it had a severe bug preventing startup. 1232 fixes this
 and also has some minor work on plugins.

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Re: [freenet-support] Automating console interface

2009-08-24 Thread Evan Daniel
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 5:56 AM, VolodyA! V
Anarhistvolo...@whengendarmesleeps.org wrote:
 Michael Yip wrote:
 Hi all,

 I'm currently carrying out a research project on Freenet to try and
 measure the amount of information one can gain from the observable
 attributes.

 I was wondering if there's any way I can automate the commands through
 the Freenet console interface, in the same way one can write a shell
 script to automate shell commands?

 Thanks for your help in advance.

 Michael
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 If i would be doing something like this i would edit the code itself putting
 System.err.println(Attribute1 = +attribute1.toString()) of the attributes 
 that
 i need to capture and then write something to parse wrapper.log file which is
 where it all will end up.

Far better would be freenet.support.Logger.minor(this,
messageString);.  Replace minor with the log level of your choice.
This lets you easily turn it on and off on the config screen.

In general, the easiest way to script Freenet is going to be FCP +
your scripting language of choice.  See
http://wiki.freenetproject.org/FreenetFCPSpec2Point0 for details.

Also, I think questions like this probably belong on the devl list.

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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet inside LAN

2009-08-23 Thread Evan Daniel
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Alex Pyattaevalex.pyatt...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 6:40 AM, David R. ellimi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've just found Freenet, and it looks really great.  I've always
 considered freedom of speech pretty much the most important thing you can
 have, so I love what this is doing.  Anyway, I've had what seems to be a
 good idea - set up people at my school to use freenet.  I'm planning to
 bundle it with a few other apps (tor, firefox+privacy addons, utorrent, etc)
 and let people download it and put it on their flash drives, and run it
 whenever they get on a school computer.  As they did this, they'd connect to
 a mini-freenet (darknet of course), within the school.  The main problem
 I've got here is that freenet doesn't work over LAN, or at least I can't
 figure out how to make it do so.  I don't want one computer on freenet, and
 the others running a browser pointed to 192.168.1.X.  I want to set up a
 darknet composed of computers within the same LAN.

 If anyone knows how I could do this, or could suggest another way to do
 it  (I tried WASTE, and couldnt get it going either) I would very much
 appreciate it.

 Thanks,
     Ellimistd

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 The Freenet program has no idea if an IP address is a LAN or WAN address.
 Because it can not know your exact network settings. The only thing it does
 is sending packets to other IP addresses. Your users should always point
 their browsers to 127.0.0.1, not external IP address, since fproxy binds to
 loopback interface, not external interfaces, otherwise it would require
 authentification to connect to the node. When you get 3-4 nodes up 
 running, you can try to connect them by exchanging noderefs. to do all this
 in pure darknet (without access to internet) just remove seednodes.fref file
 in freenet's root directory. You may put it back when you decide to use
 opennet. However, since you use LAN, you should probably not use opennet
 connections, since it is WERY easy to find out that you run freenet when you
 do so. Hope this helps.

No need to delete the seednodes file.  Just turn off opennet on the
config screen.

Running opennet on the LAN should work just fine, with no more
security issues than running opennet anywhere else.

I've run two nodes on the same LAN; it doesn't require any special
configuration.  I just turned on opennet on both, then exchanged
darknet refs, and they connected over the LAN and connected to the
outside world, and it all just worked.

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Re: [freenet-support] ?spam? Re: Peer IP address leakage?

2009-08-23 Thread Evan Daniel
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 5:19 AM, Michael Yipmhy...@cs.bham.ac.uk wrote:
 Dsoslglece wrote:
 Michael Yip a écrit :
 Hi,

 My name is Michael and I'm currently studying the source code of Freenet.

 I have found that the object reference for all PeerNode objects has the
 IP address of the peer associated with it. How is anonymity kept with
 the IP of the peer exposed? I have examined the log file and it seems
 the object reference of the peers are logged as they are added.

 What I'm confused is since Freenet seek to promote freedom of speech in
 the presence of strict government control, if they decide to run a
 Freenet node and collect IP addresses in this manner, the consequences
 would be unthinkable

 I have tested this by adding another node of mine and my IP address
 appears as expected.

 Can anyone explain to me why??

 Thanks,

 Michael
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 Hi Michael...
 it is correct that your IP would be known by your neighbour node, but,
 he is the only one to be able to identify you... more, and beside the
 fact of being able to be sure that you are using Freenet (only sure of
 this), even so, he has no way of knowing if the info or file or
 whatever, coming to you, or going from you, did or not come or go 10
 nodes away from you, since you act also (as a node) in passing
 packets... and anyway, even so, he is (and you are, and any of your
 neighbours) unable to know the content of the package, if you didn't
 create it yourself or ask yourself for it since only the original
 sender and final receiver are able to know it's content.
 Hope it was clear...


    Hi,

    Thanks for your reply.

    Taking from the point that IP addresses are known to your peers, I
 have another question.

    I've noticed that the hop-to-live counter is decremented according
 to the policy of:
     1)  the source node of the request,
     2) the node which recently reported fail for a data request or
     3) the node handling the request (usually because the node is the
 source of the request)

    Ok, so what if I modify the code for my node so that:

    1) maxHTL = 1
    2) decrementAtMin = false
    3) disableProbabilisticHTLs = false

   Would this mean that my peers would not forward my message any
 further? This is because if so, this would allow me to probe my peers
 using my set of keys for data

Your peers will sometimes pass on requests at min htl, specifically to
avoid this problem.  That's what the probabilistic htl thing is for.

Turning off probabilistic htl only turns it off on your node; it
doesn't change your peers config, obviously.  So turning it off will
let other people probe your store, but doesn't help you probe theirs.

Evan Daniel
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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet inside LAN

2009-08-23 Thread Evan Daniel
Yes and no.  It will run just fine, however you'll lose things like
the automatic start at bootup.  Also, Freenet is not expected to work
well with low uptime; it really, really wants to run 24x7 or close to
it.  Connecting for a couple hours a day won't work nearly as well.
Also, I highly recommend using a data store of several GB, which is
getting large by flash drive standards.

Evan Daniel

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 2:14 PM, David R.ellimi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Exellent, it works perfectly (in my test, at least.  I have yet to try it
 for for it's real purpose).  I don't know why it didn't before, but
 whatever.  Still, I may have another problem - is freenet portable?  If I
 run the installer to install to a flash drive, put firefox-portable on that
 drive, write a batch script to start freenet and open firefox to
 127.0.0.1:, will it work on another computer?  (assuming that computer
 has java).   It doesn't seem like freenet would _need_ any registry entries
 to function, but I'd like to be sure, and i'm not certain I'd catch
 everything if I did it myself.

 -Ellimistd

 On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Evan Daniel eva...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Alex Pyattaevalex.pyatt...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
  On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 6:40 AM, David R. ellimi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I've just found Freenet, and it looks really great.  I've always
  considered freedom of speech pretty much the most important thing you
  can
  have, so I love what this is doing.  Anyway, I've had what seems to be
  a
  good idea - set up people at my school to use freenet.  I'm planning to
  bundle it with a few other apps (tor, firefox+privacy addons, utorrent,
  etc)
  and let people download it and put it on their flash drives, and run it
  whenever they get on a school computer.  As they did this, they'd
  connect to
  a mini-freenet (darknet of course), within the school.  The main
  problem
  I've got here is that freenet doesn't work over LAN, or at least I
  can't
  figure out how to make it do so.  I don't want one computer on freenet,
  and
  the others running a browser pointed to 192.168.1.X.  I want to set up
  a
  darknet composed of computers within the same LAN.
 
  If anyone knows how I could do this, or could suggest another way to do
  it  (I tried WASTE, and couldnt get it going either) I would very much
  appreciate it.
 
  Thanks,
      Ellimistd
 
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  The Freenet program has no idea if an IP address is a LAN or WAN
  address.
  Because it can not know your exact network settings. The only thing it
  does
  is sending packets to other IP addresses. Your users should always point
  their browsers to 127.0.0.1, not external IP address, since fproxy binds
  to
  loopback interface, not external interfaces, otherwise it would require
  authentification to connect to the node. When you get 3-4 nodes up 
  running, you can try to connect them by exchanging noderefs. to do all
  this
  in pure darknet (without access to internet) just remove seednodes.fref
  file
  in freenet's root directory. You may put it back when you decide to use
  opennet. However, since you use LAN, you should probably not use opennet
  connections, since it is WERY easy to find out that you run freenet when
  you
  do so. Hope this helps.

 No need to delete the seednodes file.  Just turn off opennet on the
 config screen.

 Running opennet on the LAN should work just fine, with no more
 security issues than running opennet anywhere else.

 I've run two nodes on the same LAN; it doesn't require any special
 configuration.  I just turned on opennet on both, then exchanged
 darknet refs, and they connected over the LAN and connected to the
 outside world, and it all just worked.

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Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Evan Daniel
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 9:59 AM, VolodyA! V
Anarhistvolo...@whengendarmesleeps.org wrote:
 Luke771 wrote:
 Alex Pyattaev wrote:
 Ok people, I'll try to adopt my own freenode to track the users that
 try to connect to freenet. If I come up with solution, I'll indeed
 tell you. Hope I'll ban some nasty users before you make a patch, so
 that I can sleep well knowing that my bosses will never know about the
 freenet users in the LAN=)

 What you're doing here is catching Opennet users. Pure Darknet users
 wont be that easy to catch.

 He has stated that the network does not allow P2P applications running 
 Freenet
 as pure darknet will technically be F2F, now we can start arguing whether 
 F2F
 is a subset of P2P or a distinctly different thing. But if we accept that F2F
 and P2P are different, then people who haven't enabled Opennet are actually 
 not
 violating that particular network's guidelines.

Except that it's really, really obvious that friends are a subset of
peers.  See definition of peers.  In a computing context, peers is as
distinct from client/server etc.  This is a silly argument, and any
sysadmin will (rightly) tell you you're an idiot if you try to make
it.

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Re: [freenet-support] How can a system administrator detect active freenodes?

2009-08-21 Thread Evan Daniel
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Alex Pyattaevalex.pyatt...@gmail.com wrote:

 He has stated that the network does not allow P2P applications running
 Freenet
 as pure darknet will technically be F2F, now we can start arguing
 whether F2F
 is a subset of P2P or a distinctly different thing. But if we accept that
 F2F
 and P2P are different, then people who haven't enabled Opennet are
 actually not
 violating that particular network's guidelines.

 Actually, darknet peers inside LAN are not violating ToS, because the
 inside-network traffic is not an issue. The actual problem is that a bunch
 of p2p users seeding and leeching from internet can consume every possible
 bit of channel available on the ISP's connection.  That's why they are
 illegal. The traffic for each user is virtually unlimited, but if you do the
 math, you will see that without p2p you just can not consume even 2 mbit/s
 channel, and we provide 10 mbit/s. Thus, when the user is downloading
 something big from time to time - it works just nice. But when he fills up
 at list 5 mbit/s with 24/7 p2p exchange the traffic utilization is much
 bigger than it should be. I have proposed to the managers that we allow p2p
 for extra charge (or with limited QoS), but they have decided that it will
 not work out (all that piracy stuff is still an issue).
 Online gamers are not always client-server. I have stated spring as a
 typical random-server udp-based game (ta-spring.com), the Company Of heroes
 also works similarily - host is a random node, and all nodes are
 interconnected.
 Indeed, 24x7 active connections can be suspicious, so I hope you will
 counter this problem so that I don't bother setting up filter. I suggest
 breaking every single connection that lasts for more than 1 hour, if it is
 not unique, and then reconnecting after random delay.
 PS: fuck bosses, I run freenet node myself=)

Last I checked, p2p wasn't illegal in any place I know of :)

This sounds to me like you really just need better QoS for your users,
not to block P2P.  It's relatively easy to allocate bandwidth such
that everyone gets their fair share, and those that use it *less* get
priority over the short term.  That means that p2p users can use up
any excess bandwidth, but if someone else is just trying to browse the
web it will go quickly.  Piracy is not the point of Freenet; please
don't assume anyone running Freenet is a pirate.  You should consult a
lawyer about your liability for piracy -- I suspect, however, that you
aren't liable until you are notified of a *specific* problem.

Also, have you tried just asking your users to set reasonable
bandwidth limits?  All p2p apps I know of, including Freenet, provide
bandwidth limiting controls.  Perhaps you should simply inform your
users of the situation and what you consider a reasonable bw limit for
p2p apps.

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Re: [freenet-support] [freenet-dev] Freenet 0.7 build 1229, 1230 and 1231

2009-08-21 Thread Evan Daniel
Congrats :)

On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Matthew
Toselandt...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote:
 Please upgrade to 1231. Changelogs:
 1229:
 - XML vulnerability warnings fixes.
 - Fix an NPE in plugins.
 - Minor internal stuff.
 1230:
 - Detect the XML vulnerability on OS/X. Try to detect it on OpenJDK, maybe 
 not very well.
 - Clarify an english string (Completed downloads to temporary space not 
 directory).

Hmm.  For consistency, I think it should be Completed fetches to
temporary space.

 - Sync before closing the new peers file. Some wierd filesystems might need 
 this and we're still getting reports of losing peers on power loss.
 - Minor internal stuff.
 1231:
 - Increase the maximum peers limit and make it scale with your upstream 
 bandwidth. 11 peers at 10KB/sec, 15 at 20KB/sec, 19 at 30KB/sec, 26 at 
 60KB/sec, 34 at 100KB/sec and 40 and 140KB/sec. Show the limit on the stats 
 page.
 - Support BMPs in fproxy (from kurmi's Summer of Code project).
 - Slightly better (X)HTML support in fproxy.
 - When changing the store type (most notably when setting the store size in 
 the first time wizard), don't stall for minutes or more preallocating the 
 datastore - do it in the background. IMHO this was a serious problem for new 
 users with a lot of disk space.
 - Internal changes to the web interface which will make it easier to 
 implement WebDAV in plugins. Requires a new version of XMLSpider.
 - Persist overall total output/input bytes in the database.
 - Translation updates and minor english string fixes.
 - Some workarounds for cruft left in the database by old bugs or by GCJ.
 - Snoop callbacks for data and metadata, will allow easier listing of the 
 files on a freesite, or make it easier to write things like KeyExplorer.
 - Saces' multi-container site insert code: many changes merged, still not 
 enabled by default because it still leaks stuff in the database.
 - Can specify in FCP what compression codecs to use.
 - Internal and build fixes and more comments and javadocs.

 Thanks to:

 saces
 toad
 Tommy[D]
 Markus
 3BUIb3S50i
 platy
 sdiz
 Artefact2
 infinity0
 juiceman

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Re: [freenet-support] Time to fill datastore

2009-08-18 Thread Evan Daniel
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Samtest...@codingninjas.org wrote:
 Hello,

 I am wondering how long it should take to fill up the datastore of 100g that I
 setup? It has only filled up about 10g of the 50g (datastore half of
 datastore). This node has been running 24/7 for almost a year now with the
 setting of 100g for datastore. The connection speed is 100kB/sec up and down
 and it averages close to that. I rarely download anything from freenet, but
 shouldn't other peoples traffic cause my datastore to be filled up by a year
 of running at 100kB/sec!?

 Is that normal that it is so incredibly under utilizing the space I have given
 it?

 Or is something wrong?
 Should I nuke it and reinstall freenet completely? I don't want to try nuking
 it if it is just going to end up taking a year to build up to 10g again.

 Thanks for any help.

Nuking things won't help anything, and is bad for the network.  Please don't.

Unfortunately, this is a known issue that needs fixing.  See eg bugs
2932 and 2933 on the bugtracker.

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Re: [freenet-support] No connections at all with build 1230

2009-08-15 Thread Evan Daniel
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 9:25 AM, bqz69bq...@telia.com wrote:
 On Saturday 15 August 2009 06:55:28 am freenet wrote:
 Ever since I upgraded to build 1230 I've never been able to establish
 a connection to any other freenet nodes on the open-net.

 The statistics page shows:

 Disconnected: 20
 Seed nodes: 18

 for the last 48+ hours.

 I'm running on Mac OS 10.5.7 which is at Java 1.6.0_13 so of course I
 get the Upgrade your Java immediately! error message.

 You must update your java to update 15.

 http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

OSX doesn't have the update available yet, as the OP said.  Telling
someone to upgrade to a nonexistent version isn't precisely helpful.

That said, my OSX laptop is running just fine -- connections work,
etc, though obviously I can't use the XML plugins on the laptop until
the security update is available.

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Re: [freenet-support] Need Feedback on a Network Diagram of Freenet

2009-08-15 Thread Evan Daniel
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Frye, David
Wdavid.f...@duke-energy.com wrote:
 I am writing a book about computer security and want to include a very basic
 diagram of how Freenet and Darknet work. Would it be possible to have
 someone look over the picture below and verify I have an accurate (basic)
 understanding of the architecture? The only question I have is, do the other
 clients provide a role in providing pieces of the data to Client A or do
 Client A and E communicate directly with each other to transfer the data?
 Thank you!

I think you're heading in the right direction, but not completely
accurate.  Freenet is both simpler and more complex than your diagram
suggests.

First, terminology: Freenet is peer to peer; the Freenet software runs
nodes or peers.  Normally, a person using Freenet runs a single node
(copy of the Freenet software).  They might also run one or more
clients (software that provides some functionality, like file sharing
or messaging); each client would talk to the node run by the user.
The user's node handles converting the client's requests into network
level messages.

Freenet doesn't have a high-level structure of distinct networks like
your diagram suggests.  Each node is connected to some other nodes;
they aren't grouped into separate networks*.  This is true whether
those nodes are opennet or darknet nodes.  When a node wants a piece
of data, it picks the node it's connected to that's most likely to
have it (or know where to find it) and asks that node.  This request
gets passed along until either the data is found or the request times
out with the data not found.  Once the data is found, it gets returned
to the original requester along the same route; the node that had the
data and the node that requested it never talk directly, and don't
know who each other are.  All any node along the route knows is the
previous and next nodes in the route (this is where a large portion of
the security of Freenet comes from).

The difference between darknet and opennet isn't in how the
connections are used, but in how they're made.  Opennet connections
are made automatically by the nodes.  The result is something that
doesn't require user intervention to set up, but is less secure: if
you enable opennet on your node, then your node broadcasts to the rest
of the network the fact that it's running Freenet and how to connect
to it, which lets an attacker determine a list of all opennet nodes
(with a modest amount of work).  Darknet is different: connections are
manually established by the user between their node and the node of
someone they trust (for definitions of trust that depend highly on
individual circumstances).  If your node has only darknet connections
(you can run a mix of darknet and opennet connections if you like, but
you'll only get a partial benefit from it), then it is dark, in the
sense of being hard to see.  There is no easy way for an attacker to
determine that you're running Freenet, to recognize the Freenet
connection, etc.  Despite the difference in how the connections are
established, they're used in the same way at a network level.
Requests initiated on a purely darknet node might get routed onto an
opennet connection and then onto a different darknet connection.

Since you only make darknet connections to people you know, there's a
common misconception that you can only get data from your friends; in
general, this is not the case.  Darknet connections are like real
world social connections: you don't know all your friends' friends.
Many of your darknet peers are probably connected to each other (your
friends know each other), but they also connect to other people you
don't know.  Your friends connect to people you don't know, who
connect to people who don't know your friends, and much like the Kevin
Bacon game you're indirectly connected to someone who's also connected
to the main opennet network, and from there to the rest of the world.
Freenet can then make use of those connections to route requests and
data, even though no individual node knows much about the connectivity
of the network as a whole.

Hopefully that's helpful.  Feel free to ask more questions; I or
someone else can hopefully answer them.  You might find the wiki
useful; I've been trying to improve it a bit of late, but it's still
somewhat sparse and frequently out of date.  Consider looking at eg
http://wiki.freenetproject.org/DarkNet and things linked from there.
If you're interested in helping the wiki lacks things like nice
diagrams -- if you're willing to contribute such, it would be
appreciated.

* It's possible to have networks that are completely disconnected, but
if there exists a route from one node to another, they're on the same
network.  By the time you have more than a few people on a small
disconnected network, someone will probably manage to make a
connection to someone who can connect to someone who... and all of a
sudden it's not a disconnected network any longer.

Evan

Re: [freenet-support] Java

2009-08-10 Thread Evan Daniel
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Ragnarrag...@hush.ai wrote:
 Hello,

 Can anyone help with Java and FreeNet not being able to recognize
 the correct version?

What version of Freenet are you running?  What version of Java are you
using, and what does Freenet think you're using?

(If you're referring to the Java version security warning, upgrade to
Freenet build 1229.)

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[freenet-support] Temp dir question (forward from Frost)

2009-08-07 Thread Evan Daniel
(Forwarded from Frost board 'freenet')

Toad, I told you our users knew what 'directories' were and that
they'd complain when Freenet stopped putting files in them :)

The downloads page shouldn't say Completed downloads to temporary
directory if it didn't download the files to a temporary directory.
(I should have noticed this when testing the relevant changes; I
missed it too.)

Sometimes I think you worry too much about hypothetical 'newbie users'
that we don't have much actual feedback from, to the detriment of the
majority of our users, who I think can be described as technically
competent, but not experts.

Evan Daniel

- Anonymous - 2009.08.07 - 00:30:48GMT -

Hi

My all downloads (from Frost) are going to (fproxy):
Completed downloads to temporary directory (4).

Where is a temporary directory ?! I couldnot find those files in any
/tmp, or Freenet' directory.

How i can force Freenet to download all files directly into disk' downloads ?
Or maybe I just need to wait some time and files will be moved thee?

My Protection if your computer is seized or stolen option is NORMAL.
Version: Freenet 0.7.5 Build #1226 build01226
Freenet-ext Build #26 r23771

Please help. :-
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Re: [freenet-support] 301 Moved Permanently ... ugh

2009-08-06 Thread Evan Daniel
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Matthew
Toselandt...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote:
 On Tuesday 04 August 2009 05:29:35 Dennis Nezic wrote:
 For the past few Freenet builds, fproxy's behavior has changed whereby
 it seems to use http 301 Moved Permanently to redirect downloads of
 the form 'http://localhost:/c...@../filename' to
 'freenet:c...@..' ... but it doesn't seem to include the filename part
 in the redirected location ... or at least when I 'wget' CHKs it
 doesn't include the filenames  it uses the CHK as the filename :\.

 I don't think that's new. If the CHK doesn't include the filename as 
 metadata, we redirect it; that's been true for ages.

The problem is that I think Frost has a habit of inserting files
without a filename (to generate the same CHK), and then inserting
another CHK with a filename that redirects to it.  Or something
equally weird, I'm not clear on the details.  The problem it's trying
to solve is that the same file with different names should collide
(not an uncommon case in the filesharing world).

Evan Daniel
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Re: [freenet-support] freenet fails to run 3

2009-06-21 Thread Evan Daniel
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 12:07 AM, Egbert van der
Meere.vanderm...@wolmail.nl wrote:
 I have disabled both antivirus and firewall but it makes no difference.
 Atached is an plugin report stating the ports are forwarded succesfully.
 The test using another computer can not perform.
 Monitoring my CPU does not show any overload.
 Waiting for more suggestions to solve this problem.

 UPP plugin report

 The following device has been found : ZyXEL Prestige 2602H-61 Internet
 Sharing Gateway

 Our current external ip address is : (deleted)

 Our reported max downstream bit rate is : 13220 bits/sec

 Our reported max upstream bit rate is : 970 bits/sec

Your upstream bandwidth is under 1 Kib/s?  That's glacial even by
dialup standards.  I would say that counts as something seriously
broken with your connection.  Unfortunately, I doubt there's any way
to make Freenet work over that slow a connection.

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Re: [freenet-support] freenet fails to run 3

2009-06-21 Thread Evan Daniel
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 2:51 AM, Egbert van der
Meere.vanderm...@wolmail.nl wrote:
 What can I do to improve this?


Is that really the upstream bandwidth of your connection?  If so, you
need to get a better Internet connection.  If not, you need to
determine why Freenet is unable to use your bandwidth.  The obvious
answers are some other program using it all, or something badly
misconfigured.  Do you have other programs using significant bandwidth
on your connection?  If so, try turning them off or limiting their
bandwidth usage.

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Re: [freenet-support] freenet fails to run 3

2009-06-20 Thread Evan Daniel
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 6:32 AM, Egbert van der
Meere.vanderm...@wolmail.nl wrote:
 No matter wich links I try to load, non of them do.
 Not after one hour, not after one day and not after one week.
 I am not new to freenet and I know it is slow but this symply not working at
 all.

 Also FROST has problems with it.
 Looks to me on the contrary it is not working...

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This is a very weird problem.

What browser and OS are you using (including versions)?

It would be helpful to have a paste of your full statistics page in
advanced mode, your wrapper.log (or at least the recent portions), and
your freenet-latest.log.  (If they're large, it would be best to put
them online somewhere rather than mailing to the list; if you can't do
that, emailing them just to me is fine.  I'd warn about potential
anonymity issues with freenet-latest.log, but it doesn't sound like
it's working enough for that to be a problem :/ )

Evan Daniel

P.S. If you could continue this thread instead of starting new ones, I
would find that easier to organize and see everything you've posted,
and be less likely to ask questions you've already answered.
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Re: [freenet-support] freenet fails to run 3

2009-06-20 Thread Evan Daniel
On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Egbert van der
Meere.vanderm...@wolmail.nl wrote:
 I am using Windows XP and Firefox both up to date.
 I hope this mail will not bounce because it'srather big.
[...]
 Node status overview * bwlimitDelayTime:
 0ms * nodeAveragePingTime: 378ms * darknetSizeEstimateSession: 0 nodes *
 opennetSizeEstimateSession: 57 nodes * nodeUptime: 58m27s *
 routingMissDistance: 0, * backedOffPercent: 0,0% * pInstantReject:
 100,0% * unclaimedFIFOSize: 0 * RAMBucketPoolSize: 168 B / 10.0 MiB *

First, notice the pInstantReject: 100%.  This means your node is
rejecting all requests, ie something is seriously wrong.  This
normally means that either your network is badly misbehaving or
Freenet is starved for CPU time.  Also, total payload output of 0B
means that your node has never had a connection to another node that
completed and lasted long enough to handle a (successful) request.

Second, the wrapper.log shows *lots* of announcements.  This isn't
normal.  I *strongly* suspect there is something wrong with your
network connection.  The obvious suspects are port forwarding at your
router for UDP ports (not TCP!), and your ISP doing something weird.
If you're absolutely, 100% certain your UDP ports are properly
forwarded, find a computer (ideally on a different ISP) and test
whether you can send UDP packets and receive them to the ports in
question.  I've used iperf for that purpose, but I'm sure there are
other ways to do it as well.

The other possible source of problems is overzealous or misconfigured
firewall or antivirus software.  If you're using any such, consider
disabling them to test whether that solves the problem.

If none of those gets anywhere, I'm stumped.  Perhaps someone else has
a better idea.

Evan Daniel
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Re: [freenet-support] freenet fails to run 2

2009-06-19 Thread Evan Daniel
Your node is only connected to one other node.  This suggests to me
that you have problems with your internet connection (misconfigured
router, evil ISP, etc).

Are the opennet and darknet ports are accessible to the outside world
for UDP (forwarded at router, etc)?  Has your node correctly detected
your external IP address?

Evan Daniel

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Egbert van der
Meere.vanderm...@wolmail.nl wrote:
 No the page has stopt updating.
 I'ts been over 13hours now.
 Included freenet latest log.

 jun 20, 2009 02:00:00:512 (freenet.node.PeerManager, PacketSender thread for
 10039, NORMAL): Connected: 1  Routing Backed Off: 0  Too New: 0  Too Old: 0
  Disconnected: 1  Never Connected: 15  Disabled: 0  Bursting: 0  Listening:
 0  Listen Only: 0  Clock Problem: 0  Connection Problem: 0  Disconnecting: 0
 jun 20, 2009 02:00:04:856 (freenet.node.FNPPacketMangler, UdpSocketHandler
 for port 29778(1), NORMAL): We received an unexpected JFK(2) message from
 jupiter.travisbrown.ca:16145 (time since added: 48859047 time last
 receive:-1)
 jun 20, 2009 02:00:05:575 (freenet.node.PeerManager, PacketSender thread for
 10039, NORMAL): Connected: 1  Routing Backed Off: 0  Too New: 0  Too Old: 0
  Disconnected: 1  Never Connected: 15  Disabled: 0  Bursting: 0  Listening:
 0  Listen Only: 0  Clock Problem: 0  Connection Problem: 0  Disconnecting: 0
 jun 20, 2009 02:00:10:637 (freenet.node.PeerManager, PacketSender thread for
 10039, NORMAL): Connected: 1  Routing Backed Off: 0  Too New: 0  Too Old: 0
  Disconnected: 1  Never Connected: 15  Disabled: 0  Bursting: 0  Listening:
 0  Listen Only: 0  Clock Problem: 0  Connection Problem: 0  Disconnecting: 0
 jun 20, 2009 02:00:12:106 (freenet.node.FNPPacketMangler, UdpSocketHandler
 for port 29778(1), NORMAL): We received an unexpected JFK(2) message from
 jupiter.travisbrown.ca:16145 (time since added: 48866297 time last
 receive:-1)
 jun 20, 2009 02:00:15:762 (freenet.node.PeerManager, PacketSender thread for
 10039, NORMAL): Connected: 1  Routing Backed Off: 0  Too New: 0  Too Old: 0
  Disconnected: 1  Never Connected: 15  Disabled: 0  Bursting: 0  Listening:
 0  Listen Only: 0  Clock Problem: 0  Connection Problem: 0  Disconnecting: 0
 jun 20, 2009 02:00:20:778 (freenet.node.PeerManager, PacketSender thread for
 10039, NORMAL): Connected: 1  Routing Backed Off: 0  Too New: 0  Too Old: 0
  Disconnected: 1  Never Connected: 15  Disabled: 0  Bursting: 0  Listening:
 0  Listen Only: 0  Clock Problem: 0  Connection Problem: 0  Disconnecting: 0
 jun 20, 2009 02:00:25:825 (freenet.node.PeerManager, PacketSender thread for
 10039, NORMAL): Connected: 1  Routing Backed Off: 0  Too New: 0  Too Old: 0
  Disconnected: 1  Never Connected: 15  Disabled: 0  Bursting: 0  Listening:
 0  Listen Only: 0  Clock Problem: 0  Connection Problem: 0  Disconnecting: 0
 jun 20, 2009 02:00:28:606 (freenet.node.FNPPacketMangler, UdpSocketHandler
 for port 29778(1), NORMAL): We received an unexpected JFK(2) message from
 jupiter.travisbrown.ca:16145 (time since added: 48882797 time last
 receive:-1)
 jun 20, 2009 02:00:30:090 (freenet.node.MemoryChecker, Scheduled job:
 freenet.node.memorychec...@10efd7c(259), NORMAL): Memory in use: 36.0 MiB
 jun 20, 2009 02:00:30:840 (freenet.node.PeerManager, PacketSender thread for
 10039, NORMAL): Connected: 1  Routing Backed Off: 0  Too New: 0  Too Old: 0
  Disconnected: 1  Never Connected: 15  Disabled: 0  Bursting: 0  Listening:
 0  Listen Only: 0  Clock Problem: 0  Connection Problem: 0  Disconnecting: 0
 jun 20, 2009 02:00:35:871 (freenet.node.PeerManager, PacketSender thread for
 10039, NORMAL): Connected: 1  Routing Backed Off: 0  Too New: 0  Too Old: 0
  Disconnected: 1  Never Connected: 15  Disabled: 0  Bursting: 0  Listening:
 0  Listen Only: 0  Clock Problem: 0  Connection Problem: 0  Disconnecting: 0
 jun 20, 2009 02:00:36:934 (freenet.node.FNPPacketMangler, UdpSocketHandler
 for port 29778(1), NORMAL): We received an unexpected JFK(2) message from
 jupiter.travisbrown.ca:16145 (time since added: 48891125 time last
 receive:-1)
 jun 20, 2009 02:00:40:950 (freenet.node.PeerManager, PacketSender thread for
 10039, NORMAL): Connected: 1  Routing Backed Off: 0  Too New: 0  Too Old: 0
  Disconnected: 1  Never Connected: 15  Disabled: 0  Bursting: 0  Listening:
 0  Listen Only: 0  Clock Problem: 0  Connection Problem: 0  Disconnecting: 0
 jun 20, 2009 02:00:46:043 (freenet.node.PeerManager, PacketSender thread for
 10039, NORMAL): Connected: 1  Routing Backed Off: 0  Too New: 0  Too Old: 0
  Disconnected: 1  Never Connected: 15  Disabled: 0  Bursting: 0  Listening:
 0  Listen Only: 0  Clock Problem: 0  Connection Problem: 0  Disconnecting: 0
 jun 20, 2009 02:00:51:106 (freenet.node.PeerManager, PacketSender thread for
 10039, NORMAL): Connected: 1  Routing Backed Off: 0  Too New: 0  Too Old: 0
  Disconnected: 1  Never Connected: 15  Disabled: 0  Bursting: 0  Listening:
 0  Listen Only: 0  Clock Problem: 0  Connection Problem: 0  Disconnecting

Re: [freenet-support] Fwd: How to increase the store?

2009-06-16 Thread Evan Daniel
In either case, you have to let it finish.  This is a slow process,
and requires enough space to hold both the old and new store on the
disk at the same time.  Setting preallocate datastore and resize store
on node start both to true will make it run faster, though the node
won't be usable during the resize.

If you want it to run faster, the only solution I know of is to use a
faster disk.  Unfortunately, the resize does a lot of random io,
rather than sequential, which makes it very slow.

Evan Daniel

On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:03 PM, bbac...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Now, after the reset to 90GiB, the node starts again with the migration:

 INFO | jvm 1 | 2009/06/16 20:00:37 | CHK-cache cleaner in progress: 0/1534443

 Had to stop it. When there is no solution I have to delete the store
 and start a new one?


 -- Forwarded message --
 From:  bbac...@googlemail.com
 Date: Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 19:43
 Subject: How to increase the store?
 To: support@freenetproject.org


 I wanted to increase my datastore from 90 to 100GiB. Changed the setting,
 and set 'preallocate datastore' to false (also tried with true, same result).
 Shortly after restart the node starts to access each single key:
 
 INFO   | jvm 1    | 2009/06/15 07:10:23 | PUBKEY-cache cleaner in
 progress: 1376135/1380999
 INFO   | jvm 1    | 2009/06/15 07:12:00 | CHK-cache cleaner in
 progress: 0/1380999
 

 The CHK process ran for more than 14 hours, and then it didn't even
 reach 30% progress.
 I had to stop the migration. I set the node size back to 90GiB, and
 now my cache utilization is
 at 5,5% (before it was 99%). So most of the data is gone. But however,
 how can I increase
 the store without the never-ending migration?

 FYI: I run freenet on a laptop, the store is on an external USB hard disk.

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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet HTML page loads only partially

2009-06-08 Thread Evan Daniel
On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Prawda2prawda2.i...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 7:41 PM, bo-lebo...@web.de wrote:
 the cut off text begins with:

  a name=maciej_jachowicz  style=co

 watch the extra  , this error makes the content filter stop.
 just fix the fatal html error(s)/typos and insert again. ;)

 indeed, that was the problem.

 thanks a lot!
 I'd never figure it out.

It seems to me that this is a bug; the filter should not silently chop
off data.  If it can't pass the data through, it should warn the user
about what it is doing instead.  Possibly with a screen like the
unsafe content screen, with options display unfiltered, display
partial page, display as text or a similar set.

Evan Daniel
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[freenet-support] Is it my system, or had builds 1208-1209 have severe performance issues?

2009-05-15 Thread Evan Daniel
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Matthew Toseland
 wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 May 2009 18:29:47 Evan Daniel wrote:
>> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Matthew Toseland
>>  wrote:
>> > On Friday 08 May 2009 17:40:58 Juiceman wrote:
>> >> >> Weird. ?node.db4o was an insane 375 MB. ?I deleted it and and added a
>> >> >> bunch of downloads. ?Now it is less than 10 MB. ?That definitely
>> >> >> helped some with the disk thrashing.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think I found the main problem, and I'm embarrassed to say
>> >> >> apparantly I had xmlspider plugin running and writing GB+ files to the
>> >> >> same disk the node resides on. ?I turned this off and the disk usage
>> >> >> became manageable.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I also upgraded my HDD from an older 2 MB cache model to one with 16
>> >> >> MB and now Freenet is zipping along nicely.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I did see some errors in the log so I am sending it to Toad for
> review.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> P.S. I would recommend not installing the xmlspider by default on
>> > installs.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Victor - might this be your issue as well?
>> >> >
>> >> > ROFL. So that just leaves victor...
>> >>
>> >> Is it normal that node.db4o never shrinks? ?I have completed all the
>> >> downloads I had running and removed them from the page, yet node.db4o
>> >> doesn't get smaller. ?I have rebooted the node also. ?This IMHO is bad
>> >> because it will eventually kill performance with disk access...
>> >
>> > Yes, the only way to ensure it shrinks is to defrag it. This is on the
> todo
>> > list, but it does not seem urgent to me. Is it really a huge, monstrous,
>> > evil, all-consuming problem more urgent than the 500 other things we have
> to
>> > deal with?
>>
>> I see two issues. ?First, my node.db4o has broken 100MiB. ?That's not
>> a problem, but eventually it would be. ?I can deal with this by
>> emptying my download / upload queues, deleting it, and re-adding any
>> keys, but that's annoying. ?It's not urgent, but an option to defrag
>> at startup would be nice if it doesn't take too much of your time.
>>
> How much have you had in your queue so far?
>

About 3GiB, maybe a little less.

Evan Daniel



Re: [freenet-support] Is it my system, or had builds 1208-1209 have severe performance issues?

2009-05-15 Thread Evan Daniel
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Matthew Toseland
t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote:
 On Wednesday 13 May 2009 18:29:47 Evan Daniel wrote:
 On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Matthew Toseland
 t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote:
  On Friday 08 May 2009 17:40:58 Juiceman wrote:
   Weird.  node.db4o was an insane 375 MB.  I deleted it and and added a
   bunch of downloads.  Now it is less than 10 MB.  That definitely
   helped some with the disk thrashing.
  
   I think I found the main problem, and I'm embarrassed to say
   apparantly I had xmlspider plugin running and writing GB+ files to the
   same disk the node resides on.  I turned this off and the disk usage
   became manageable.
  
   I also upgraded my HDD from an older 2 MB cache model to one with 16
   MB and now Freenet is zipping along nicely.
  
   I did see some errors in the log so I am sending it to Toad for
 review.
  
   P.S. I would recommend not installing the xmlspider by default on
  installs.
  
   Victor - might this be your issue as well?
  
   ROFL. So that just leaves victor...
 
  Is it normal that node.db4o never shrinks?  I have completed all the
  downloads I had running and removed them from the page, yet node.db4o
  doesn't get smaller.  I have rebooted the node also.  This IMHO is bad
  because it will eventually kill performance with disk access...
 
  Yes, the only way to ensure it shrinks is to defrag it. This is on the
 todo
  list, but it does not seem urgent to me. Is it really a huge, monstrous,
  evil, all-consuming problem more urgent than the 500 other things we have
 to
  deal with?

 I see two issues.  First, my node.db4o has broken 100MiB.  That's not
 a problem, but eventually it would be.  I can deal with this by
 emptying my download / upload queues, deleting it, and re-adding any
 keys, but that's annoying.  It's not urgent, but an option to defrag
 at startup would be nice if it doesn't take too much of your time.

 How much have you had in your queue so far?


About 3GiB, maybe a little less.

Evan Daniel
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[freenet-support] Is it my system, or had builds 1208-1209 have severe performance issues?

2009-05-13 Thread Evan Daniel
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:33 AM, Matthew Toseland
 wrote:
> On Friday 08 May 2009 17:40:58 Juiceman wrote:
>> >> Weird. ?node.db4o was an insane 375 MB. ?I deleted it and and added a
>> >> bunch of downloads. ?Now it is less than 10 MB. ?That definitely
>> >> helped some with the disk thrashing.
>> >>
>> >> I think I found the main problem, and I'm embarrassed to say
>> >> apparantly I had xmlspider plugin running and writing GB+ files to the
>> >> same disk the node resides on. ?I turned this off and the disk usage
>> >> became manageable.
>> >>
>> >> I also upgraded my HDD from an older 2 MB cache model to one with 16
>> >> MB and now Freenet is zipping along nicely.
>> >>
>> >> I did see some errors in the log so I am sending it to Toad for review.
>> >>
>> >> P.S. I would recommend not installing the xmlspider by default on
> installs.
>> >>
>> >> Victor - might this be your issue as well?
>> >
>> > ROFL. So that just leaves victor...
>>
>> Is it normal that node.db4o never shrinks? ?I have completed all the
>> downloads I had running and removed them from the page, yet node.db4o
>> doesn't get smaller. ?I have rebooted the node also. ?This IMHO is bad
>> because it will eventually kill performance with disk access...
>
> Yes, the only way to ensure it shrinks is to defrag it. This is on the todo
> list, but it does not seem urgent to me. Is it really a huge, monstrous,
> evil, all-consuming problem more urgent than the 500 other things we have to
> deal with?

I see two issues.  First, my node.db4o has broken 100MiB.  That's not
a problem, but eventually it would be.  I can deal with this by
emptying my download / upload queues, deleting it, and re-adding any
keys, but that's annoying.  It's not urgent, but an option to defrag
at startup would be nice if it doesn't take too much of your time.

Second issue is a minor security thing.  I'm probably less paranoid
than most Freenet users, but I would like to know that after I
download a file, the traces left behind by doing so are well defined.
That would include the file itself and the fact that its blocks are in
my cache.  I'd rather not also have that info in the node.db4o file
(is it encrypted?).  Again, not urgent, but worth dealing with
eventually.  The truly paranoid will have motion detectors that
unmount their encrypted filesystems and start scrubbing RAM before the
Bad Guys (TM) can sit down at the keyboard, right?

Evan Daniel



[freenet-support] Please answer a quick survey on Freenet

2009-05-06 Thread Evan Daniel
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Matthew Toseland
 wrote:
> What OS do you use for Freenet?
Debian Lenny

> What is your current datastore size set to?
100GiB

> What is your output bandwidth limit set to?
30KiB/s

> What actual bandwidth usage do you typically get?
28KiB/s

> This will help us to make decisions about new performance features ...
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Re: [freenet-support] Please answer a quick survey on Freenet

2009-05-06 Thread Evan Daniel
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Matthew Toseland
t...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote:
 What OS do you use for Freenet?
Debian Lenny

 What is your current datastore size set to?
100GiB

 What is your output bandwidth limit set to?
30KiB/s

 What actual bandwidth usage do you typically get?
28KiB/s

 This will help us to make decisions about new performance features ...

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[freenet-support] How does a Freenet newbie get Freenet friends to become invisible

2008-09-09 Thread Evan Daniel
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:22 AM, bqz69  wrote:
> I have almost made a supplementary Freenet, Freemail, JSite -and FMS
> minihowto, but I need an important question answered.
>
> How does a Freenet newbie, who urgently needs Freenet for some purpose, add
> reference nodes of Friends, when he/she does not have any Freenet Friends,
> but is all on his own?
>
> This is a question about finding Freenet friends, and not about adding the
> very reference node (that I know already)
>
> Freenet becomes more and more rurgent, I find
>
> I need it explained in down to earth words?
>
> It is a very relevant question I hope. :-)

Short answer:  you don't.

Longer answer:  the point of the Friends nodes is that the nodes are
run by people you trust (for some value of trust).  In order for that
to be meaningful, you have to know the person in some context other
than as a potential person to swap noderefs with.  If you only know
them as someone to swap noderefs with, then it's not particularly more
or less secure than the automatic Strangers connections -- in either
case, the people you're connecting to might be Bad Guys in disguise.
So, in order to add Friends nodes in a manner that actually improves
your security, you have to find people you know who run freenet -- if
you don't know any such, then the best thing to do is convince your
friends to run freenet, and swap noderefs with them.  There simply
isn't a shortcut here; if you want better security than the Strangers
mode offers, you need to have some non-freenet-based trust in the
person you're connecting to.  (However, there's no requirement that
you know the person in real life -- online friends who you know from
another context work fine too.)  Exactly how much you need to trust
the Friends you connect to will depend on your personal situation.

Hope that clears things up...

Evan Daniel



Re: [freenet-support] How does a Freenet newbie get Freenet friends to become invisible

2008-09-09 Thread Evan Daniel
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:22 AM, bqz69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have almost made a supplementary Freenet, Freemail, JSite -and FMS
 minihowto, but I need an important question answered.

 How does a Freenet newbie, who urgently needs Freenet for some purpose, add
 reference nodes of Friends, when he/she does not have any Freenet Friends,
 but is all on his own?

 This is a question about finding Freenet friends, and not about adding the
 very reference node (that I know already)

 Freenet becomes more and more rurgent, I find

 I need it explained in down to earth words?

 It is a very relevant question I hope. :-)

Short answer:  you don't.

Longer answer:  the point of the Friends nodes is that the nodes are
run by people you trust (for some value of trust).  In order for that
to be meaningful, you have to know the person in some context other
than as a potential person to swap noderefs with.  If you only know
them as someone to swap noderefs with, then it's not particularly more
or less secure than the automatic Strangers connections -- in either
case, the people you're connecting to might be Bad Guys in disguise.
So, in order to add Friends nodes in a manner that actually improves
your security, you have to find people you know who run freenet -- if
you don't know any such, then the best thing to do is convince your
friends to run freenet, and swap noderefs with them.  There simply
isn't a shortcut here; if you want better security than the Strangers
mode offers, you need to have some non-freenet-based trust in the
person you're connecting to.  (However, there's no requirement that
you know the person in real life -- online friends who you know from
another context work fine too.)  Exactly how much you need to trust
the Friends you connect to will depend on your personal situation.

Hope that clears things up...

Evan Daniel
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[freenet-support] FMS Woes

2008-05-08 Thread Evan Daniel
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 1:32 AM, MyTwoCents  wrote:
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>
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>
> On Tue, 6 May 2008, "Evan Daniel"  wrote:
>  >On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:39 PM, MyTwoCents  
> wrote:
>  >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>  >>
>  >>  I was going to just post this on my flog (which I did) but decided that
>  >>  since I've no idea if any devs read it, I want to be certain that it gets
>  >>  SOME actual notice by developer types and thus posted it here also
>  >>
>  >>  I've been taking a bit of time lately to check in on 0.7 again and have
>  >>  been trying out FMS.  I have to say that while the idea is a good one, 
> has
>  >>  a few things that need to be addressed. Specifically the process of
>  >>  announcing new identities has problems.
>  >>
>  >>  1) The capcha images themselves have absolutely GOT to be changed.
>  >>  Because: "You must have at least 1 identity created and have received the
>  >>  SSK keypair for it from Freenet before setting trust.", I cannot post
>  >>  messages yet, I have been able to read a few, including one:
>  >>
>  >>  Subject: Re: current CAPTCHAs suck
>  >>  From: The Seeker at cI~w2hrvvyUa1E6PhJ9j5cCoG1xmxSooi7Nez4V2Gd4
>  >>  Date: Thu, 01 May 08 21:31:52 -
>  >>  Message-ID:
>  >>   cIw2hrvvyUa1E6PhJ9j5cCoG1xmxSooi7Nez4
>  >>  V2Gd4>
>  >>
>  >>  That expresses the opinion that the captchas are more likely to be solved
>  >>  by a program than a human.
>  >>
>  >>  Having spent a few hours trying in vain to read the damn things, I have 
> to
>  >>  say that I wouldn't be surprized if that were true.  Of course, I also
>  >>  think that they were specifically designed to make life difficult for
>  >>  people with vision impairments.
>  >>
>  >>  The images need to be something that an actual human will have little to 
> no
>  >>  trouble reading them. Unfortunately, the graphic abortions that are in 
> use
>  >>  now are apparently impossible for me to read, since I've been "solving"
>  >>  (not that I know if they're 'solved' or just wrong.) them for the better
>  >>  part of a week now and have yet to get my identity announced.
>  >>
>  >>  Which brings me to #2.
>  >>
>  >>  How about some feedback?
>  >>
>  >>  Specifically, when I "solve" a captcha, how about telling me if I got it
>  >>  right or not?  My thought, present captchas one at a time.  Allow user to
>  >>  fill in and submit.  If incorrect, TELL THE USER!!!, then present them 
> with
>  >>  a new one.  If it's correct, again TELL THE USER!!! then present them 
> with
>  >>  a new one.
>  >>
>  >>  This business of sitting here going nearly blind trying to read faint,
>  >>  almost invisible characters is bad enough, not even knowing if I actually
>  >>  got one right is liable to make somebody homicidal.  There's absolutely
>  >>  ZERO reason for this to be a fargin guessing game!
>  >>
>  >>  Frankly, if I ever get my hands on the
>  >>  absolute-brain-dead-moron-studying-to-be-an-idiot-and-failing-miserably
>  >>  that decided to use that kind of damn-near-invisible-characters-image I'm
>  >>  going to print out 10,000 pages of them on plywood sheeds and make him 
> eat
>  >>  them while I beat him to death with my monitor!
>  >>
>  >>  Can you tell I'm more than just casually frustrated here?  Good!
>  >>
>  >>  WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE FIX THE DAMNED CAPTCHAS ON FMS?!?
>  >>
>  >>  The preceeding was written while frustrated and angry and then posted
>  >>  anyway to make a point.
>  >>
>  >>  - --
>  >>  My public keys can be found on my freenet site:
>  >>  SSK at TEx6TiaPeszpV4AFw3ToutDb49EPAgM/mytwocents/62//m2ckey.html
>  >>  (*NOTE* you must be running freenet for this link to be usefull)
>  >>  and on public keyservers. Key-Id: 0x92769D7E
>  >>  Fingerprint: 2F07D586C8D4EEA732711338CFEF46E592769D7E
>  >>  I can be reached either by the NiM form on the freesite or by
>  >>  Email: m2c AT nym.panta-rhei.eu.org
>  >>  Frost: MyTwoCents at Z+59LNK9NhMvxewYggENU4Ww50s On the 0.5 Freenet board
>  >>
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Re: [freenet-support] FMS Woes

2008-05-08 Thread Evan Daniel
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 1:32 AM, MyTwoCents [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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 On Tue, 6 May 2008, Evan Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:39 PM, MyTwoCents [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
  
I was going to just post this on my flog (which I did) but decided that
since I've no idea if any devs read it, I want to be certain that it gets
SOME actual notice by developer types and thus posted it here also
  
I've been taking a bit of time lately to check in on 0.7 again and have
been trying out FMS.  I have to say that while the idea is a good one, 
 has
a few things that need to be addressed. Specifically the process of
announcing new identities has problems.
  
1) The capcha images themselves have absolutely GOT to be changed.
Because: You must have at least 1 identity created and have received the
SSK keypair for it from Freenet before setting trust., I cannot post
messages yet, I have been able to read a few, including one:
  
Subject: Re: current CAPTCHAs suck
From: The [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 01 May 08 21:31:52 -
Message-ID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
V2Gd4
  
That expresses the opinion that the captchas are more likely to be solved
by a program than a human.
  
Having spent a few hours trying in vain to read the damn things, I have 
 to
say that I wouldn't be surprized if that were true.  Of course, I also
think that they were specifically designed to make life difficult for
people with vision impairments.
  
The images need to be something that an actual human will have little to 
 no
trouble reading them. Unfortunately, the graphic abortions that are in 
 use
now are apparently impossible for me to read, since I've been solving
(not that I know if they're 'solved' or just wrong.) them for the better
part of a week now and have yet to get my identity announced.
  
Which brings me to #2.
  
How about some feedback?
  
Specifically, when I solve a captcha, how about telling me if I got it
right or not?  My thought, present captchas one at a time.  Allow user to
fill in and submit.  If incorrect, TELL THE USER!!!, then present them 
 with
a new one.  If it's correct, again TELL THE USER!!! then present them 
 with
a new one.
  
This business of sitting here going nearly blind trying to read faint,
almost invisible characters is bad enough, not even knowing if I actually
got one right is liable to make somebody homicidal.  There's absolutely
ZERO reason for this to be a fargin guessing game!
  
Frankly, if I ever get my hands on the
absolute-brain-dead-moron-studying-to-be-an-idiot-and-failing-miserably
that decided to use that kind of damn-near-invisible-characters-image I'm
going to print out 10,000 pages of them on plywood sheeds and make him 
 eat
them while I beat him to death with my monitor!
  
Can you tell I'm more than just casually frustrated here?  Good!
  
WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE FIX THE DAMNED CAPTCHAS ON FMS?!?
  
The preceeding was written while frustrated and angry and then posted
anyway to make a point.
  
- --
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]/mytwocents/62//m2ckey.html
(*NOTE* you must be running freenet for this link to be usefull)
and on public keyservers. Key-Id: 0x92769D7E
Fingerprint: 2F07D586C8D4EEA732711338CFEF46E592769D7E
I can be reached either by the NiM form on the freesite or by
Email: m2c AT nym.panta-rhei.eu.org
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  I tried to read your flog but couldn't; your SSK is malformed.

  That's not malformed.  It's an 0.5 key.  My flog is mirrored on both
  networks
  0.7 key is (wordwrap is probably gonna kill this. ymmv)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED],rQ8XqGy-MFZIMbM3zWE0VwXzNUf
  T7lcp5gVYOoFFzio,AQACAAE/mytwocents/11/
  (it's also listed on 'Another Index')


  There are ways other than captchas to announce yourself.  If I knew
  what your identity was I'd be happy to add it, as you're obviously
  human.

  I'd take you up on that if it werent for a stubborn streak that insists on
  my being able to do it myself by following the few directions I could find
  and the software working and letting me in.


  You could post a patch with better captchas.  As the initiator of the

  If I had the skills

[freenet-support] FMS Woes

2008-05-07 Thread Evan Daniel
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Evan Daniel  wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:39 PM, MyTwoCents  
> wrote:
>  > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>  >  Hash: SHA1
>  >
>  >  I was going to just post this on my flog (which I did) but decided that
>  >  since I've no idea if any devs read it, I want to be certain that it gets
>  >  SOME actual notice by developer types and thus posted it here also
>  >
>  >  I've been taking a bit of time lately to check in on 0.7 again and have
>  >  been trying out FMS.  I have to say that while the idea is a good one, has
>  >  a few things that need to be addressed. Specifically the process of
>  >  announcing new identities has problems.
>  >
>  >  1) The capcha images themselves have absolutely GOT to be changed.
>  >  Because: "You must have at least 1 identity created and have received the
>  >  SSK keypair for it from Freenet before setting trust.", I cannot post
>  >  messages yet, I have been able to read a few, including one:
>  >
>  >  Subject: Re: current CAPTCHAs suck
>  >  From: The Seeker at cI~w2hrvvyUa1E6PhJ9j5cCoG1xmxSooi7Nez4V2Gd4
>  >  Date: Thu, 01 May 08 21:31:52 -
>  >  Message-ID:
>  >   cIw2hrvvyUa1E6PhJ9j5cCoG1xmxSooi7Nez4
>  >  V2Gd4>
>  >
>  >  That expresses the opinion that the captchas are more likely to be solved
>  >  by a program than a human.
>  >
>  >  Having spent a few hours trying in vain to read the damn things, I have to
>  >  say that I wouldn't be surprized if that were true.  Of course, I also
>  >  think that they were specifically designed to make life difficult for
>  >  people with vision impairments.
>  >
>  >  The images need to be something that an actual human will have little to 
> no
>  >  trouble reading them. Unfortunately, the graphic abortions that are in use
>  >  now are apparently impossible for me to read, since I've been "solving"
>  >  (not that I know if they're 'solved' or just wrong.) them for the better
>  >  part of a week now and have yet to get my identity announced.
>  >
>  >  Which brings me to #2.
>  >
>  >  How about some feedback?
>  >
>  >  Specifically, when I "solve" a captcha, how about telling me if I got it
>  >  right or not?  My thought, present captchas one at a time.  Allow user to
>  >  fill in and submit.  If incorrect, TELL THE USER!!!, then present them 
> with
>  >  a new one.  If it's correct, again TELL THE USER!!! then present them with
>  >  a new one.
>  >
>  >  This business of sitting here going nearly blind trying to read faint,
>  >  almost invisible characters is bad enough, not even knowing if I actually
>  >  got one right is liable to make somebody homicidal.  There's absolutely
>  >  ZERO reason for this to be a fargin guessing game!
>  >
>  >  Frankly, if I ever get my hands on the
>  >  absolute-brain-dead-moron-studying-to-be-an-idiot-and-failing-miserably
>  >  that decided to use that kind of damn-near-invisible-characters-image I'm
>  >  going to print out 10,000 pages of them on plywood sheeds and make him eat
>  >  them while I beat him to death with my monitor!
>  >
>  >  Can you tell I'm more than just casually frustrated here?  Good!
>  >
>  >  WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE FIX THE DAMNED CAPTCHAS ON FMS?!?
>  >
>  >  The preceeding was written while frustrated and angry and then posted
>  >  anyway to make a point.
>  >
>  >  - --
>  >  My public keys can be found on my freenet site:
>  >  SSK at TEx6TiaPeszpV4AFw3ToutDb49EPAgM/mytwocents/62//m2ckey.html
>  >  (*NOTE* you must be running freenet for this link to be usefull)
>  >  and on public keyservers. Key-Id: 0x92769D7E
>  >  Fingerprint: 2F07D586C8D4EEA732711338CFEF46E592769D7E
>  >  I can be reached either by the NiM form on the freesite or by
>  >  Email: m2c AT nym.panta-rhei.eu.org
>  >  Frost: MyTwoCents at Z+59LNK9NhMvxewYggENU4Ww50s On the 0.5 Freenet board
>  >
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[freenet-support] FMS Woes

2008-05-06 Thread Evan Daniel
e captchas.  If this creates a spam problem,
I apologize; somebody tell me if I'm announcing all the spammers and
don't notice :D

I won't post the changes I made.  They're trivial and anyone else can
make similar ones, and besides having more variety is probably not a
bad thing.  I encourage people to do the same, provided they're
willing to pay attention in case they end up announcing spammers.

Evan Daniel



Re: [freenet-support] FMS Woes

2008-05-06 Thread Evan Daniel
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 9:39 PM, MyTwoCents [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
  Hash: SHA1

  I was going to just post this on my flog (which I did) but decided that
  since I've no idea if any devs read it, I want to be certain that it gets
  SOME actual notice by developer types and thus posted it here also

  I've been taking a bit of time lately to check in on 0.7 again and have
  been trying out FMS.  I have to say that while the idea is a good one, has
  a few things that need to be addressed. Specifically the process of
  announcing new identities has problems.

  1) The capcha images themselves have absolutely GOT to be changed.
  Because: You must have at least 1 identity created and have received the
  SSK keypair for it from Freenet before setting trust., I cannot post
  messages yet, I have been able to read a few, including one:

  Subject: Re: current CAPTCHAs suck
  From: The [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Thu, 01 May 08 21:31:52 -
  Message-ID:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  V2Gd4

  That expresses the opinion that the captchas are more likely to be solved
  by a program than a human.

  Having spent a few hours trying in vain to read the damn things, I have to
  say that I wouldn't be surprized if that were true.  Of course, I also
  think that they were specifically designed to make life difficult for
  people with vision impairments.

  The images need to be something that an actual human will have little to no
  trouble reading them. Unfortunately, the graphic abortions that are in use
  now are apparently impossible for me to read, since I've been solving
  (not that I know if they're 'solved' or just wrong.) them for the better
  part of a week now and have yet to get my identity announced.

  Which brings me to #2.

  How about some feedback?

  Specifically, when I solve a captcha, how about telling me if I got it
  right or not?  My thought, present captchas one at a time.  Allow user to
  fill in and submit.  If incorrect, TELL THE USER!!!, then present them with
  a new one.  If it's correct, again TELL THE USER!!! then present them with
  a new one.

  This business of sitting here going nearly blind trying to read faint,
  almost invisible characters is bad enough, not even knowing if I actually
  got one right is liable to make somebody homicidal.  There's absolutely
  ZERO reason for this to be a fargin guessing game!

  Frankly, if I ever get my hands on the
  absolute-brain-dead-moron-studying-to-be-an-idiot-and-failing-miserably
  that decided to use that kind of damn-near-invisible-characters-image I'm
  going to print out 10,000 pages of them on plywood sheeds and make him eat
  them while I beat him to death with my monitor!

  Can you tell I'm more than just casually frustrated here?  Good!

  WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE FIX THE DAMNED CAPTCHAS ON FMS?!?

  The preceeding was written while frustrated and angry and then posted
  anyway to make a point.

  - --
  My public keys can be found on my freenet site:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]/mytwocents/62//m2ckey.html
  (*NOTE* you must be running freenet for this link to be usefull)
  and on public keyservers. Key-Id: 0x92769D7E
  Fingerprint: 2F07D586C8D4EEA732711338CFEF46E592769D7E
  I can be reached either by the NiM form on the freesite or by
  Email: m2c AT nym.panta-rhei.eu.org
  Frost: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On the 0.5 Freenet board

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I tried to read your flog but couldn't; your SSK is malformed.

There are ways other than captchas to announce yourself.  If I knew
what your identity was I'd be happy to add it, as you're obviously
human.

You could post a patch with better captchas.  As the initiator of the
thread you referenced, I would be in favor.  I've got some code I'm
playing with, but it's not there yet.  Working on other people's code
always feels more like work than fun, and the same is true of C++, so
it probably won't get posted for a while yet.

In the meantime I've modified the FMS source so that my node will post
easier versions of the same captchas.  If this creates a spam problem,
I apologize; somebody tell me if I'm announcing all the spammers and
don't notice :D

I won't post the changes I made.  They're trivial and anyone else can
make similar ones, and besides having more variety is probably not a
bad thing.  I encourage people to do the same, provided they're
willing to pay attention in case they end up announcing spammers.

Evan Daniel
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[freenet-support] towards Freenet 0.7.0

2008-05-02 Thread Evan Daniel
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Matthew Toseland
 wrote:
> On Thursday 01 May 2008 16:20, sich wrote:
>  > Ermanno Baschiera a ?crit :
>  > > Hi,
>  > > In my opinion a good bandwidth control system should be necessary. I
>  > > read that at the moment it's not very accurate. I think that all
>  > > people with low bandwidth can benefit from an accurate bandwidth
>  > > control. I mean... think about new comers who want to give a try
>  > > running Freenet... They keep the node up for some days... their MSN
>  > > starts to disconnect every 5 minutes, surfing becomes slow and they
>  > > often have to reload pages... even if they set their node's output
>  > > bandwidth to a resonable value. I'm afraid they at last could give up
>  > > and unistall freenet.
>  > > I had those problems, but with the last 3-4 builds, it happens much
>  > > less often, and I can't exclude that it could be my isp's fault (maybe
>  > > throttling?) or something else, not Freenet. Anyway, an accurate
>  > > bandwidth control cannot hurt.
>  > >
>  > > -Ermanno Baschiera
>  > For me the problem is that Freenet don't use all the bandwitch
>  > avaible... I have very good bandwitch but Freenet is only using around
>  > 40ko/s...
>
>  Do you have 0% pInstantReject as well? If so, your node is accepting every
>  request sent to it, yet is still not using much bandwidth (compared to what
>  it could do). Which is what I find on my node when I run with a high bwlimit:
>  our neighbours simply don't send us enough requests to use up all the
>  bandwidth, even taking into account that their neighbours are probably
>  rejecting a lot of requests, so we probably get a lot of the rejected
>  requests due to not being backed off.
>
>  I don't know that there's much that can be done about this. Load limiting
>  adapts to the average network conditions, and we can't go too much beyond
>  that without breaking routing.

You could increase the number of peers, and thus get more traffic...

Evan Daniel



[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-30 Thread Evan Daniel
On 30 Aug 2006 04:50:23 -, Anonymous via Panta Rhei

> Perhaps I was not sufficiently clear.  Linux is not an acceptable answer.
> Machine limitations are a major part of that, but other considerations
> that I am not at liberty to discuss are also a factor.
>
> Changing OS is not an option no matter what.  I have made poor choices due
> to financial limitations and now am locked into those choices for at least
> another 9.85 years.  (and yeah, it sucks to be me.)
>
> On the other hand, I have seen reports of people successfully running 0.7
> on a Windows 98 computer with little difficulty.  Because of this, I do not
> comprehend the apparent reluctance to divulge the requested help.

I don't think there's any 'reluctance,' I think it's just that no one
does that, so they're not particularly inclined to offer advice on how
to run something on an OS they don't have.  Have you looked at the
support wiki (I haven't)?  Also, have you described the symptoms of
the problem in detail on this list (at a quick glance I don't see
such, and I'm not going to bother hunting in detail when the
anonymization makes it harder)?

And I confess I'm quite confused by your hardware problems -- if you
had a weird peripheral that Linux didn't like, that wouldn't surprise
me, but I really can't imagine a computer that can run 98 but not
Linux, at least as far as basics like network and non-accelerated
graphics go.  And it can't be a problem of not enough disk / memory /
cpu -- Freenet is *way* more demanding than any minimalist Linux
distro, and likely most non-minimalist ones if you at least chose a wm
that's lighter than KDE or Gnome.  My personal choice would be
Enlightenment, but there are plenty of others, some of them
exceedingly lightweight.

(And yes, I've installed Linux on weird "windows-only" hardware.  It
can be a pain, but it can be done.  Don't get me started on Toshiba
laptops...)

Evan



[freenet-support] can freenet use this technology?

2006-08-30 Thread Evan Daniel
No.

Quantum cryptography, key distribution, etc. all rely on the ability
of communicators to exchange objects like qbits or entangled photons.
Properly designed, this provides a guarantee (backed by the
Uncertainty Principle) that the communication can't be intercepted.
Needless to say, I can't send you a photon over the internet.  And,
any attempt to send a digital representation of one suffers because
digital data can be read non-destructively.

Basically a quantum crypto based network would need, at a minimum,
physical fiber optic links between the participants.

HTH

Evan

On 8/29/06, remailer at invalid.com  wrote:
> -BEGIN TYPE III ANONYMOUS MESSAGE-
> Message-type: plaintext
>
>
>
> this tech, or an algo based on it?
>
>
> Quantum cryptographic data network created
> http://www.dailyindia.com/show/55384.php/Quantum-cryptographic-data-network-created
>
> EVANSTON, Ill., Aug. 28 (UPI) -- U.S. scientists have demonstrated, for the 
> first time, a quantum cryptographic data network.
>
> Researchers from Northwestern University and BBN Technologies Inc., a 
> Cambridge, Mass., research and development company, said they integrated 
> quantum noise protected data encryption, or QDE, with quantum key 
> distribution to develop a complete data communication system with 
> extraordinary resilience to eavesdropping.
>
> "The volume and type of sensitive information being transmitted over data 
> networks continues to grow at a remarkable pace," said Prem Kumar, professor 
> of electrical engineering and computer science at Northwestern and 
> co-principal investigator on the project. "New cryptographic methods are 
> needed to continue ensuring that the privacy and safety of each user's 
> information is secure."
>
> The QDE method, called AlphaEta, makes use of the inherent and irreducible 
> quantum noise in laser light to enhance the security of the system and makes 
> eavesdropping much more difficult. The scientists said unlike most other 
> physical encryption methods, AlphaEta maintains performance on par with 
> traditional optical communications links and is compatible with standard 
> fiber optical networks.
>
> Henry Yeh, director of programs at BBN, said the newly developed system 
> represents the state-of-the-art in ultra-secure high-speed optical 
> communications.
>
> Copyright 2006 by United Press International
>
>
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Re: [freenet-support] can freenet use this technology?

2006-08-29 Thread Evan Daniel

No.

Quantum cryptography, key distribution, etc. all rely on the ability
of communicators to exchange objects like qbits or entangled photons.
Properly designed, this provides a guarantee (backed by the
Uncertainty Principle) that the communication can't be intercepted.
Needless to say, I can't send you a photon over the internet.  And,
any attempt to send a digital representation of one suffers because
digital data can be read non-destructively.

Basically a quantum crypto based network would need, at a minimum,
physical fiber optic links between the participants.

HTH

Evan

On 8/29/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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this tech, or an algo based on it?


Quantum cryptographic data network created
http://www.dailyindia.com/show/55384.php/Quantum-cryptographic-data-network-created

EVANSTON, Ill., Aug. 28 (UPI) -- U.S. scientists have demonstrated, for the 
first time, a quantum cryptographic data network.

Researchers from Northwestern University and BBN Technologies Inc., a 
Cambridge, Mass., research and development company, said they integrated 
quantum noise protected data encryption, or QDE, with quantum key distribution 
to develop a complete data communication system with extraordinary resilience 
to eavesdropping.

The volume and type of sensitive information being transmitted over data networks continues 
to grow at a remarkable pace, said Prem Kumar, professor of electrical engineering and 
computer science at Northwestern and co-principal investigator on the project. New 
cryptographic methods are needed to continue ensuring that the privacy and safety of each user's 
information is secure.

The QDE method, called AlphaEta, makes use of the inherent and irreducible 
quantum noise in laser light to enhance the security of the system and makes 
eavesdropping much more difficult. The scientists said unlike most other 
physical encryption methods, AlphaEta maintains performance on par with 
traditional optical communications links and is compatible with standard fiber 
optical networks.

Henry Yeh, director of programs at BBN, said the newly developed system 
represents the state-of-the-art in ultra-secure high-speed optical 
communications.

Copyright 2006 by United Press International


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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-29 Thread Evan Daniel

On 30 Aug 2006 04:50:23 -, Anonymous via Panta Rhei


Perhaps I was not sufficiently clear.  Linux is not an acceptable answer.
Machine limitations are a major part of that, but other considerations
that I am not at liberty to discuss are also a factor.

Changing OS is not an option no matter what.  I have made poor choices due
to financial limitations and now am locked into those choices for at least
another 9.85 years.  whine(and yeah, it sucks to be me.)/whine

On the other hand, I have seen reports of people successfully running 0.7
on a Windows 98 computer with little difficulty.  Because of this, I do not
comprehend the apparent reluctance to divulge the requested help.


I don't think there's any 'reluctance,' I think it's just that no one
does that, so they're not particularly inclined to offer advice on how
to run something on an OS they don't have.  Have you looked at the
support wiki (I haven't)?  Also, have you described the symptoms of
the problem in detail on this list (at a quick glance I don't see
such, and I'm not going to bother hunting in detail when the
anonymization makes it harder)?

And I confess I'm quite confused by your hardware problems -- if you
had a weird peripheral that Linux didn't like, that wouldn't surprise
me, but I really can't imagine a computer that can run 98 but not
Linux, at least as far as basics like network and non-accelerated
graphics go.  And it can't be a problem of not enough disk / memory /
cpu -- Freenet is *way* more demanding than any minimalist Linux
distro, and likely most non-minimalist ones if you at least chose a wm
that's lighter than KDE or Gnome.  My personal choice would be
Enlightenment, but there are plenty of others, some of them
exceedingly lightweight.

(And yes, I've installed Linux on weird windows-only hardware.  It
can be a pain, but it can be done.  Don't get me started on Toshiba
laptops...)

Evan
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[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-27 Thread Evan Daniel
Please justify your assumptions.

There is a lot of data on social networks that says that is not how
they look.  I see no reason to believe the social networks a freenet
darknet would be built upon would be different.

Evan

On 8/26/06, urza9814 at gmail.com  wrote:
> Yea, but you don't know all the nodes in the network, you just know
> the ones your connected to. So if one of those links between the
> networks goes down, half your downloads stall out and die. And
> wouldn't that put a pretty big strain on certain computers? I mean, if
> you get this global network of small networks...90% of the data you
> request will probably be on another 'network'. The number of
> connections between these networks is going to be a lot smaller than
> connections within the network. Therefore the computers that connect
> between them are gonna have a much greater strain on them than the
> ones that are only linked to one 'network'. And if these individual
> networks fully connect and integrate...you have an opennet. Except you
> have to physically get your node connections from someone else. So you
> have an opennet with much fewer connections, which doesn't seem like a
> good thing.
>
>
> On 8/26/06, Evan Daniel  wrote:
> > On 8/26/06, diddler4u at hotmail.com  wrote:
> > > >>Freenet 0.5 is an opennet. You connect to any random node that happens
> > > >>to be on. Freenet 0.7 doesn't have this yet. In 0.7, there is no main
> > > >>network. There might be now, but the idea of the way it currently is
> > > >>setup is to allow small groups to connect without connecting to
> > > >>everyone else.
> > > >
> > > >That is not true.  Freenet 0.7 is designed to form one global  network, 
> > > >not
> > > >multiple independent networks consisting of small groups.
> > > >
> > > >Ian.
> > >
> > > Ian,
> > >
> > > How can freenet grow to be a global network unless someone in one group
> > > trades connection information with someone in another group?
> > >
> > > Hypothetical - A group of people in England, another in France, another in
> > > Russia, and another in China have grown individual trusted 0.7 freenets. 
> > > No
> > > one in any of these groups knows someone in the other freenet group, and
> > > they don't want to just advertise in IRC chat to find someone to connect 
> > > to
> > > because they don't know and trust this as a way to add people to their
> > > freenet. How will these freenet groups become a part of a global network?
> >
> > They won't.  But your assumptions are off -- there's lots of good
> > reasons to assume that once a small local network passes a handful of
> > connected users it will gain a connection to a different network.  And
> > then you have a global network.  This is what is meant when people say
> > 0.7 is designed to form a global network -- there is no magic, except
> > for the underlying properties of the social connections the network is
> > built upon.
> >
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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-27 Thread Evan Daniel

Please justify your assumptions.

There is a lot of data on social networks that says that is not how
they look.  I see no reason to believe the social networks a freenet
darknet would be built upon would be different.

Evan

On 8/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yea, but you don't know all the nodes in the network, you just know
the ones your connected to. So if one of those links between the
networks goes down, half your downloads stall out and die. And
wouldn't that put a pretty big strain on certain computers? I mean, if
you get this global network of small networks...90% of the data you
request will probably be on another 'network'. The number of
connections between these networks is going to be a lot smaller than
connections within the network. Therefore the computers that connect
between them are gonna have a much greater strain on them than the
ones that are only linked to one 'network'. And if these individual
networks fully connect and integrate...you have an opennet. Except you
have to physically get your node connections from someone else. So you
have an opennet with much fewer connections, which doesn't seem like a
good thing.


On 8/26/06, Evan Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 8/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Freenet 0.5 is an opennet. You connect to any random node that happens
  to be on. Freenet 0.7 doesn't have this yet. In 0.7, there is no main
  network. There might be now, but the idea of the way it currently is
  setup is to allow small groups to connect without connecting to
  everyone else.
  
  That is not true.  Freenet 0.7 is designed to form one global  network, not
  multiple independent networks consisting of small groups.
  
  Ian.
 
  Ian,
 
  How can freenet grow to be a global network unless someone in one group
  trades connection information with someone in another group?
 
  Hypothetical - A group of people in England, another in France, another in
  Russia, and another in China have grown individual trusted 0.7 freenets. No
  one in any of these groups knows someone in the other freenet group, and
  they don't want to just advertise in IRC chat to find someone to connect to
  because they don't know and trust this as a way to add people to their
  freenet. How will these freenet groups become a part of a global network?

 They won't.  But your assumptions are off -- there's lots of good
 reasons to assume that once a small local network passes a handful of
 connected users it will gain a connection to a different network.  And
 then you have a global network.  This is what is meant when people say
 0.7 is designed to form a global network -- there is no magic, except
 for the underlying properties of the social connections the network is
 built upon.

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[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-26 Thread Evan Daniel
On 8/26/06, diddler4u at hotmail.com  wrote:
> >>Freenet 0.5 is an opennet. You connect to any random node that happens
> >>to be on. Freenet 0.7 doesn't have this yet. In 0.7, there is no main
> >>network. There might be now, but the idea of the way it currently is
> >>setup is to allow small groups to connect without connecting to
> >>everyone else.
> >
> >That is not true.  Freenet 0.7 is designed to form one global  network, not
> >multiple independent networks consisting of small groups.
> >
> >Ian.
>
> Ian,
>
> How can freenet grow to be a global network unless someone in one group
> trades connection information with someone in another group?
>
> Hypothetical - A group of people in England, another in France, another in
> Russia, and another in China have grown individual trusted 0.7 freenets. No
> one in any of these groups knows someone in the other freenet group, and
> they don't want to just advertise in IRC chat to find someone to connect to
> because they don't know and trust this as a way to add people to their
> freenet. How will these freenet groups become a part of a global network?

They won't.  But your assumptions are off -- there's lots of good
reasons to assume that once a small local network passes a handful of
connected users it will gain a connection to a different network.  And
then you have a global network.  This is what is meant when people say
0.7 is designed to form a global network -- there is no magic, except
for the underlying properties of the social connections the network is
built upon.

Evan



Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-26 Thread Evan Daniel

On 8/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Freenet 0.5 is an opennet. You connect to any random node that happens
to be on. Freenet 0.7 doesn't have this yet. In 0.7, there is no main
network. There might be now, but the idea of the way it currently is
setup is to allow small groups to connect without connecting to
everyone else.

That is not true.  Freenet 0.7 is designed to form one global  network, not
multiple independent networks consisting of small groups.

Ian.

Ian,

How can freenet grow to be a global network unless someone in one group
trades connection information with someone in another group?

Hypothetical - A group of people in England, another in France, another in
Russia, and another in China have grown individual trusted 0.7 freenets. No
one in any of these groups knows someone in the other freenet group, and
they don't want to just advertise in IRC chat to find someone to connect to
because they don't know and trust this as a way to add people to their
freenet. How will these freenet groups become a part of a global network?


They won't.  But your assumptions are off -- there's lots of good
reasons to assume that once a small local network passes a handful of
connected users it will gain a connection to a different network.  And
then you have a global network.  This is what is meant when people say
0.7 is designed to form a global network -- there is no magic, except
for the underlying properties of the social connections the network is
built upon.

Evan
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[freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-25 Thread Evan Daniel
On 8/25/06, diddler4u at hotmail.com  wrote:
>
> >It should not be possible to trace them easily. Of course, if his PC gets
> >captured, that's possible.
>
> If the person was busted their computer would be captured.
>
> I guess the only safe way is to run freenet from inside an encrypted
> (truecrypt or the like) partition or container and just hope freenet doesn't
> write information outside that container, no matter what the OS.

I'm confused... is this supposed to be an argument in favor of 0.5???

Evan



Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0,5 and 0,7

2006-08-25 Thread Evan Daniel

On 8/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It should not be possible to trace them easily. Of course, if his PC gets
captured, that's possible.

If the person was busted their computer would be captured.

I guess the only safe way is to run freenet from inside an encrypted
(truecrypt or the like) partition or container and just hope freenet doesn't
write information outside that container, no matter what the OS.


I'm confused... is this supposed to be an argument in favor of 0.5???

Evan
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Migration path, please! (Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7

2006-08-24 Thread Evan Daniel
On 8/24/06, diddler4u at hotmail.com  wrote:
> Evan,
>
> Would you define this statement? "they're (developers) working against a
> very real
> clock."

Happily.  At some point, running Freenet will (likely) become illegal,
assuming current trends continue.  This includes in the West.  It may
already be in France.  It is safe to assume that developing Freenet
will have the same legal status, whatever that may be.

When that happens, the darknet needs to be sufficiently functional for
development to move off the public net and onto the darknet.  If the
darknet can't support a collaborative development effort by then, we
have a real problem.  It may or may not be enough to kill Freenet
entirely, but it would be a big enough setback to make data resets and
incompatible versions look rosy by comparison.

Evan



Migration path, please! (Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7

2006-08-24 Thread Evan Daniel
On 24 Aug 2006 10:46:58 -0400, Rowland  wrote:
> A me-too and a summary of the discussion thus far as I see it:
>
> 1. Breaking backward compatibility is a bad thing.
> 2. Saying you won't ever do it again is small comfort.
> 3. Providing a migration path would help a lot.
> 4. I don't care about the darknet. I don't object to its existence but I have 
> no interest in it.
> 5. I want the opennet!
> 6. Backward compatibility between 0.5 and 0.7 looks like a foregone 
> conclusion at this point.
> 7. What we need instead is a migration path from Freenet 0.5 to the 0.7 
> opennet.
> 8. And we need it badly. This could be a show stopper.
> 9. This should be a high priority item.
>
> Now... what's the migration path gonna be?

First of all, it should be noted that there are significant technical
reasons that migrating content is difficult.  Key size changed from a
variable size from (IIRC) 1kB to 1MB to the current version of 32kB
for CHKs and 1kB for other keys.  Since most content needs bigger keys
than that, splitfiles are transparently supported.  The result is that
the locations of all the files changed.  Any data migration plan would
have to deal with this, and doing so is a non-trivial project.
Specifically, it would require more work on the part of the developers
(who are seriously overworked as it is) than it would require of the
users to reinsert the content on the new network and modify things as
needed.

1 -- yup, I agree.  But you were warned long ago it might happen.  It
did.  There were good reasons, and it wasn't done lightly.

2 -- actually, I don't think anyone has said it won't happen again.
Just that they will work very very hard to have it not happen before
1.0 gets released, which is still at least a couple years away.

3 -- yes, it would.  Please feel free to contribute one.  Personally,
as a donor to the freenet project, I would prefer my money go toward
doing cutting edge research into anonymity, and making the 0.7 version
work.

4 -- that's either naive or short-sighted.  No matter where you are,
it looks likely that opennet won't be a viable option forever.  We
can't just wait until that happens to produce an answer.  Also,
darknet has *inherent* security advantages that have been discussed
numerous times.

5 -- Yep.  So do most of us.  Myself included.  Getting enough refs is
pain when you don't know many people running Freenet (I know exactly
1).  Opennet is coming; be patient.  There are a lot of reasons not to
deploy opennet yet.  Most of them boil down to a) darknet is easer to
make work well and b) it doesn't yet.  Combined with c) most things
that improve the darknet performance will help the opennet, it seems
reasonable to try to fix the darknet first.

6 -- I think (and hope) it is.

7 -- We have one.  Install 0.7, and insert your content into it.  The
obvious improvement over this would be an easy way for most
applications to cross-post content.  In fact, I'll bet all most people
really need is for Frost to do that, and they can handle freesites etc
manually.  So please talk to the Frost devs about that, it would be
*way* easier than trying to solve the problem at the node level.

8 -- Doesn't appear to be yet.  It looks like the darknet is alive and
growing, though small.

9 -- I disagree.  If you want a file sharing program, go find one.  If
you want a chat program, go find one.  If you want an answer for
communicating in an actively hostile environment with legal backing to
its hostility, you need Freenet.  Except that you don't need 0.5,
because that doesn't solve the problem.  And you don't even really
need 0.7, because it doesn't yet either.  What you need is for smart,
motivated people to be working hard at finding a solution for you,
because AFAICT it doesn't exist yet.  And I think that's exactly what
the devs are doing.  Working on back compatibility would be a huge
drain on those resources, and they're working against a very real
clock.

Evan



Re: Migration path, please! (Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7

2006-08-24 Thread Evan Daniel

On 24 Aug 2006 10:46:58 -0400, Rowland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

A me-too and a summary of the discussion thus far as I see it:

1. Breaking backward compatibility is a bad thing.
2. Saying you won't ever do it again is small comfort.
3. Providing a migration path would help a lot.
4. I don't care about the darknet. I don't object to its existence but I have 
no interest in it.
5. I want the opennet!
6. Backward compatibility between 0.5 and 0.7 looks like a foregone conclusion 
at this point.
7. What we need instead is a migration path from Freenet 0.5 to the 0.7 opennet.
8. And we need it badly. This could be a show stopper.
9. This should be a high priority item.

Now... what's the migration path gonna be?


First of all, it should be noted that there are significant technical
reasons that migrating content is difficult.  Key size changed from a
variable size from (IIRC) 1kB to 1MB to the current version of 32kB
for CHKs and 1kB for other keys.  Since most content needs bigger keys
than that, splitfiles are transparently supported.  The result is that
the locations of all the files changed.  Any data migration plan would
have to deal with this, and doing so is a non-trivial project.
Specifically, it would require more work on the part of the developers
(who are seriously overworked as it is) than it would require of the
users to reinsert the content on the new network and modify things as
needed.

1 -- yup, I agree.  But you were warned long ago it might happen.  It
did.  There were good reasons, and it wasn't done lightly.

2 -- actually, I don't think anyone has said it won't happen again.
Just that they will work very very hard to have it not happen before
1.0 gets released, which is still at least a couple years away.

3 -- yes, it would.  Please feel free to contribute one.  Personally,
as a donor to the freenet project, I would prefer my money go toward
doing cutting edge research into anonymity, and making the 0.7 version
work.

4 -- that's either naive or short-sighted.  No matter where you are,
it looks likely that opennet won't be a viable option forever.  We
can't just wait until that happens to produce an answer.  Also,
darknet has *inherent* security advantages that have been discussed
numerous times.

5 -- Yep.  So do most of us.  Myself included.  Getting enough refs is
pain when you don't know many people running Freenet (I know exactly
1).  Opennet is coming; be patient.  There are a lot of reasons not to
deploy opennet yet.  Most of them boil down to a) darknet is easer to
make work well and b) it doesn't yet.  Combined with c) most things
that improve the darknet performance will help the opennet, it seems
reasonable to try to fix the darknet first.

6 -- I think (and hope) it is.

7 -- We have one.  Install 0.7, and insert your content into it.  The
obvious improvement over this would be an easy way for most
applications to cross-post content.  In fact, I'll bet all most people
really need is for Frost to do that, and they can handle freesites etc
manually.  So please talk to the Frost devs about that, it would be
*way* easier than trying to solve the problem at the node level.

8 -- Doesn't appear to be yet.  It looks like the darknet is alive and
growing, though small.

9 -- I disagree.  If you want a file sharing program, go find one.  If
you want a chat program, go find one.  If you want an answer for
communicating in an actively hostile environment with legal backing to
its hostility, you need Freenet.  Except that you don't need 0.5,
because that doesn't solve the problem.  And you don't even really
need 0.7, because it doesn't yet either.  What you need is for smart,
motivated people to be working hard at finding a solution for you,
because AFAICT it doesn't exist yet.  And I think that's exactly what
the devs are doing.  Working on back compatibility would be a huge
drain on those resources, and they're working against a very real
clock.

Evan
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Re: Migration path, please! (Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7

2006-08-24 Thread Evan Daniel

On 8/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Evan,

Would you define this statement? they're (developers) working against a
very real
clock.


Happily.  At some point, running Freenet will (likely) become illegal,
assuming current trends continue.  This includes in the West.  It may
already be in France.  It is safe to assume that developing Freenet
will have the same legal status, whatever that may be.

When that happens, the darknet needs to be sufficiently functional for
development to move off the public net and onto the darknet.  If the
darknet can't support a collaborative development effort by then, we
have a real problem.  It may or may not be enough to kill Freenet
entirely, but it would be a big enough setback to make data resets and
incompatible versions look rosy by comparison.

Evan
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[freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 build 894

2006-07-25 Thread Evan Daniel
As of this morning, my node (build 891) had been trying to fetch build
892 for some time (over a day) without success.

BTW, is there a reason new node rev fetches aren't in the queue?

Also, has the auto-updater revocation system ever been tested?

Evan Daniel

On 7/25/06, Matthew Toseland  wrote:
> Freenet 0.7 build 894 is now available. This build, and the builds
> immediately before it, should fix insert resuming: Persistent inserts
> should now resume from where they left off when the node is restarted.
> Other recent changes include a minor fix to backoff, which may improve
> matters.
>
> Please upgrade, test, and report any bugs that you find. You should be
> able to fetch it from the automatic update system within an hour or so.
> If this is not possible, please tell me; there are other ways to update
> but we prefer that people use the auto-updater.
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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.7 build 894

2006-07-25 Thread Evan Daniel

As of this morning, my node (build 891) had been trying to fetch build
892 for some time (over a day) without success.

BTW, is there a reason new node rev fetches aren't in the queue?

Also, has the auto-updater revocation system ever been tested?

Evan Daniel

On 7/25/06, Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Freenet 0.7 build 894 is now available. This build, and the builds
immediately before it, should fix insert resuming: Persistent inserts
should now resume from where they left off when the node is restarted.
Other recent changes include a minor fix to backoff, which may improve
matters.

Please upgrade, test, and report any bugs that you find. You should be
able to fetch it from the automatic update system within an hour or so.
If this is not possible, please tell me; there are other ways to update
but we prefer that people use the auto-updater.
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[freenet-support] (no subject)

2006-07-11 Thread Evan Daniel
Yes.

On 7/8/06, jiao lei  wrote:
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> Can I upload and download files from freenet?
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Re: [freenet-support] (no subject)

2006-07-10 Thread Evan Daniel

Yes.

On 7/8/06, jiao lei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Can I upload and download files from freenet?

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[freenet-support] Freenet .5 messes up my internet connection

2006-05-02 Thread Evan Daniel
On 4/29/06, vinyl1  wrote:
> Joseph Terranova said:
>
> "Linksys routers have a nasty flaw: they keep track of all connections for 
> days. So if you're using something that has a lot of connections, such as p2p 
> or freenet, it bonks fairly quickly. You might want to try looking for an 
> alternative open-source firmware for it that fixes the problem.
>
> Well, that certainly doesn't sound good.  But while I'm a fan of open-source, 
> I think mixing it with old hardware might lead to even more difficulties.
>
> I'd rather look into D-Link,  Netgear and Belkin.  What is everyone using?  
> What model works well with Freenet in a home environment?

I'm using a Linksys box just fine with Freenet 0.7; 0.7 has far fewer
connections and no churn.

I had it working with 0.5 ages ago, I think I just turned down max
connections and bandwidth available in the freenet config.  It would
reset occasionally, but as long as everything used static ip, not
dhcp, that wasn't a huge issue most of the time.

HTH

Evan



Re: [freenet-support] Freenet .5 messes up my internet connection

2006-05-02 Thread Evan Daniel

On 4/29/06, vinyl1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Joseph Terranova said:

Linksys routers have a nasty flaw: they keep track of all connections for 
days. So if you're using something that has a lot of connections, such as p2p or 
freenet, it bonks fairly quickly. You might want to try looking for an alternative 
open-source firmware for it that fixes the problem.

Well, that certainly doesn't sound good.  But while I'm a fan of open-source, I 
think mixing it with old hardware might lead to even more difficulties.

I'd rather look into D-Link,  Netgear and Belkin.  What is everyone using?  
What model works well with Freenet in a home environment?


I'm using a Linksys box just fine with Freenet 0.7; 0.7 has far fewer
connections and no churn.

I had it working with 0.5 ages ago, I think I just turned down max
connections and bandwidth available in the freenet config.  It would
reset occasionally, but as long as everything used static ip, not
dhcp, that wasn't a huge issue most of the time.

HTH

Evan
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[freenet-support] Installation problem: HTTP:/1.1 307

2006-04-14 Thread Evan Daniel
On 4/14/06, Gubben Noa  wrote:
> On Windows XP SP2, when I try try to install Freenet, I get the error
> "Download of seednodes.zip failed: 'HTTP/1.1 307'." The same error is
> given for all files the installer tries to download.
>
> HTTP status code 307 is  Temporary Redirect.
>
> How should I proceed to successfully install Freenet?

I know it might not be the answer you were looking for, but have you
considered trying 0.7 instead of 0.5?

Early results suggest it works better...

HTH

Evan Daniel



Re: [freenet-support] Installation problem: HTTP:/1.1 307

2006-04-14 Thread Evan Daniel
On 4/14/06, Gubben Noa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Windows XP SP2, when I try try to install Freenet, I get the error
 Download of seednodes.zip failed: 'HTTP/1.1 307'. The same error is
 given for all files the installer tries to download.

 HTTP status code 307 is  Temporary Redirect.

 How should I proceed to successfully install Freenet?

I know it might not be the answer you were looking for, but have you
considered trying 0.7 instead of 0.5?

Early results suggest it works better...

HTH

Evan Daniel
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