Unsubscribe doesn't work (with Python stack trace)

[Matthew John Toseland]

I currently have 2 accounts subscribed to devl: matt...@toselandcs.co.uk
and t...@amphibian.dyndns.org.

I tried to unsubscribe one of them from the mailing lists page, and got
an error URL with no content:

https://ml.freenetproject.org/v1/%7B%22stackTrace%22:[[%22/var/task/handlemlrequest.py%22,78,%22lambda_handler%22,%22print(/%22Received%20context:%20/%22%20+%20json.dumps(context,%20indent=2))%22],[%22/usr/lib64/python2.7/json/__init__.py%22,251,%22dumps%22,%22sort_keys=sort_keys,%20**kw).encode(obj)%22],[%22/usr/lib64/python2.7/json/encoder.py%22,209,%22encode%22,%22chunks%20=%20list(chunks)%22],[%22/usr/lib64/python2.7/json/encoder.py%22,442,%22_iterencode%22,%22o%20=%20_default(o)%22],[%22/usr/lib64/python2.7/json/encoder.py%22,184,%22default%22,%22raise%20TypeError(repr(o)%20+%20/%22%20is%20not%20JSON%20serializable/%22)%22]],%22errorType%22:%22TypeError%22,%22errorMessage%22:%22%3C__main__.LambdaContext%20object%20at%200x7f16bbc14c90%3E%20is%20not%20JSON%20serializable%22%7D

Granted this is with a Javascript blocker, but JS was permitted for that
page. In any case I have never agreed with Ian that Freenet's *sole*
audience are technically illiterate web2.0 kool kidz who have nothing to
hide and nothing to fear; it should work without javascript, even if
it's less pretty.

I am sending this to support rather than devl since I have no idea how
the new infrastructure works and haven't kept up with such things, and
it's clearly a support issue. But I do think it will cause you a lot of
badwill if you don't fix it.



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Re: [freenet-support] Building a new censorship circumvention tool: what do we need to know?

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Content preview:  ] You could use YaCy for that:http://www.yacy.net Ivan, Arne
   Thanks for your replies. I looked at YaCy. It's new to me. [...] 

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Ivan, Arne

Thanks for your replies. I looked at YaCy. It's new to me.

Best wishes, Robert


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Re: [freenet-support] Building a new censorship circumvention tool: what do we need to know?

[Robert John Morton]

Dear CENO team:

An extremely worth-while and timely project. I wish you well.

I think that the deliberate exclusion of sites from popular search 
engine listings is one of the worst forms of censorship on the Web. 
Perhaps the only way to combat this is to create a search engine that 
has no commercial or political motives behind it: an "open source" 
search engine if you like. But it would have to be made popular and 
that's the difficult part.


More determined censoring, I suppose, is where a particular government 
blocks content at specific IP addresses from entering its jurisdiction. 
I imagine that a set of obscured relays could manage this by making 
censored content available via unblocked addresses. This could, however, 
end up as a cat and mouse chase in which the content consumer would have 
to be able to hop quickly to ever-changing unblocked IP addresses.


Many difficult problems but well worth overcoming.

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Belo Horizonte-MG, Brasil
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[freenet-support] freenet doesn't work on osx

[John]

Downloaded the installer onto OSX. Tried installing. Won’t allow me to install 
in /Applications because my user is not administrator. Selected another 
location instead. Then a ton of errors ensure. Very broken.

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[freenet-support] (no subject)

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[freenet-support] File upload doesn't start

[John Pinkman]

I am trying to upload one larger file (few GB), and there is no progress. It 
says STARTING as a status, and it stays this way for hours.

I tried from VPN, and from regular wifi on different OS, same result. Tor, and 
torrent client all work fine, but freenet just doesn't work.

There are no error or log messages, it doesn't say what is the problem. I 
suspect that Freenet expects open ports, or UPnP? It should be able to work 
without inbound connections.

Any idea what is going wrong?
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[freenet-support] Unable to install

[John Welch]

Downloaded FreenetInstaller-1463 and ran it. Cursor indicates something is 
happening.

Task manager indicates it is using no CPU, and .1 MB of memory.
Nothing else happens.
Using Windows 8.1 with IE 11 and Firefox.
DO not get an installer or the first time wizard.
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[freenet-support] Freenet Uninstall did not work

[John Wyman]

I received a message that I needed to uninstall Freenet and re-install it.I 
uninstalled Freenet from the Control Panel (Windows 7) but when I tied to 
re-install it I got this message:
Freenet already installed!Please uninstall first or choose another directory!
What do I do now?

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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet Uninstall did not work

[John Wyman]

I managed to uninstall it.I manually deleted  C:\Program Files\Freenet (or 
C:\Program Files (x86)\Freenet) Apparently uninstalling the program from the 
control panel is not enough.Thank you.

Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 20:37:53 +0100
From: matt...@toselandcs.co.uk
To: support@freenetproject.org
CC: jwym...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Freenet Uninstall did not work

On Sat, Sep 07, 2013 at 07:51:43AM -0500, John Wyman wrote:
 I received a message that I needed to uninstall Freenet and re-install it.I 
 uninstalled Freenet from the Control Panel (Windows 7) but when I tied to 
 re-install it I got this message:
 Freenet already installed!Please uninstall first or choose another directory!
 What do I do now?
 
How exactly did you install it? From the exe on the website, or using the Java 
installer?
 
More details on the download page on the website.
 
Does C:\Program Files\Freenet (or C:\Program Files (x86)\Freenet) exist?

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Re: [freenet-support] Please help: We need more seednodes!

[Robert John Morton]

Is it possible to work as an assistant seed node?
I can manger 24/7 almost but can only manage 10kB/s up and down.

On 11/09/12 07:32, Matthew Toseland wrote:
 We're down to 9 seednodes. This means bootstrapping onto opennet is very 
 slow. We need volunteers to run seednodes. All you need is:
 - A Freenet node that is up 24x7, or reasonably close to 24x7.
 - At least 50KB/sec bandwidth both ways. Note that you may get some traffic 
 on your IP even after it is removed from the seednodes list.
 - A static IP address, or at least auto-updated dyndns (most routers can do 
 this now).

 If you can run a seednode, then please:
 - Go to opennet configuration and set be a seednode? to true.
 - Send me your opennet noderef, which you can find here:
 http://127.0.0.1:/strangers/myref.fref

 Obviously your opennet noderef includes your IP address, so replying on FMS 
 is probably a bad idea!


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[freenet-support] ANNOUNCING NODE FOR OVER 40 HOURS

[Robert John Morton]

Hello

Problem solved. I had insufficient bandwidth set. OK now. Sorry.

Regards, Rob
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[freenet-support] Freenet Installation error

[John Fahey]

Hi, I'm having a problem installing Freenet. 

When I try to install it it comes up with

FreenetInstaller-1408.exe


Error at line 1408


Line Text: LoadLanguage_pt-br()
Error: This line does not contain a recognized action.

This Program will exit.
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[freenet-support] Freenet software won't connect anymore

[John Doe]

In my last email to you, I told you that the Freenet software on my computer 
disconnected after only a few minutes of usage and wouldn't reconnect unless 
and until I restarted my computer, and asked for advice. Now my Freenet 
software won't start or connect at all. My OS is the latest version of Ubuntu. 
I'm trying to use Freenet for Linux. There's no start icon for Freenet on my 
desktop. What should I do?

[freenet-support] frequent disconnections with linux freenet

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[freenet-support] Cannot execute OR uninstall to reinstall Freenet on 64 bit windows system - error message received

[John adsales]

Re: freenet program install

Tried to reinstall using the installer program but get error message again.

Error message:

Windows cannot access the specified device, path or file. You may not have
the appropriate permissions to access the item.

I try to uninstall the program using the uninstaller in the freenet
directory and get the same error message.

Can u advise as to a solution?

I am on Windows Vista 64 bit.

Appreciate your assistance. I am a medium technical user.

Thanks,

 

 

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Re: [freenet-support] Help: Service did not respond to signal

[John R Struk]

Support,

I have exactly the same problem with windows XP. Tried reloading it, 
newest release, stopping firewall and virus protection ,all to know avail.

 Regards,

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[freenet-support] Installed Freenet but won't run

[John Derbyshire]

I'm running OS X 10.6.3 on a MacBook. I've installed Freenet but it won't
run, and get the msg 'Unable to launch the application. Any ideas what I
should do next?

TIA
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[freenet-support] installation

[John Baxter]

yes, I dont want this program anymore. how do I uninstall it? please 
respond soon
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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet Not detecting JVM Properly

[John Huttley]

I've just had this problem with Win 7RC.

Go to your control panel and uninstall  /all/ java VM's
then install  java SE 'Early Experience' V7  for Windows even if you 
have windows 64 bit.

After a few reinstalls, it works fine.

--John


Jeff Isaac wrote:
 Hello!

 I recently updated to build 1228 per the recommendation of this thread 
 and the automatic process of my node. I also updated my Java to J6R15, 
 which according to the Java control panel is the latest version of J6. 
 My node, however, insists that I have to have J5R15 or J6R20 (which 
 appears to not exist yet), and is warning me about the security flaw 
 that I had believed these updates were supposed to protect against. Any 
 thoughts? Is it possible the node is misidentifying the requirements?

 Thanks!

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[freenet-support] Re: [Tech] Re: Please test build 933 prior to deployment on auto-update

[John Bäckstrand]

So, if the originating host happens to be the closest for the given key in
the entire network (which, in a network of a few hundred or at most few
thousand nodes and small file chunks is going to happen quite often), it
won't be stored at all, despite the insert seemingly completing
succesfully?

And of course, since nodes sometimes leave from the network or change
their position, even popular content's availability will deteriorate
steadily as it's permanently stored on less and less datastores.


Not really, with healing, which toad has implemented: every successful 
download will then help make the file more accessible to others by 
inserting the failed blocks. If some nodes are now offline that received 
the original data, new nodes, which are online now and closest, will 
receive it now and make the data doubled if the original node returns.


This combined with ECC should work fine, even in a network with lots of 
churn and lost data.


This, I think, has a slight bias towards storing popular data on nodes 
with high availability, even more so than today. So popular data should 
always be around, not dependent on node X, which has the crucial last 
block, being online. Less popular data though might require waiting 
around for nodes to pop up with the data on them.


Healing really feels like a missing piece of the puzzle, I always 
thought straight LRU should work pretty badly, but my guts tell me thats 
not the case with healing in the mix. The problem was, I felt, that 
blocks that were accessed from successful downloads were worth exactly 
the same as an access for an incomplete file which is no longer 
completely in the network, and this could potentially help keep old 
unusable data in the stores, modulo people getting tired of requesting 
unsuccessful data.


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[freenet-support] Re: [Tech] Re: Please test build 933 prior to deployment on auto-update

[John Bäckstrand]

> So, if the originating host happens to be the closest for the given key in
> the entire network (which, in a network of a few hundred or at most few
> thousand nodes and small file chunks is going to happen quite often), it
> won't be stored at all, despite the insert seemingly completing
> succesfully?
> 
> And of course, since nodes sometimes leave from the network or change
> their position, even popular content's availability will deteriorate
> steadily as it's permanently stored on less and less datastores.

Not really, with healing, which toad has implemented: every successful 
download will then help make the file more accessible to others by 
inserting the failed blocks. If some nodes are now offline that received 
the original data, new nodes, which are online now and closest, will 
receive it now and make the data doubled if the original node returns.

This combined with ECC should work fine, even in a network with lots of 
churn and lost data.

This, I think, has a slight bias towards storing popular data on nodes 
with high availability, even more so than today. So popular data should 
"always" be around, not dependent on node X, which has the crucial "last 
block", being online. Less popular data though might require waiting 
around for nodes to pop up with the data on them.

Healing really feels like a missing piece of the puzzle, I always 
thought straight LRU should work pretty badly, but my guts tell me thats 
not the case with healing in the mix. The problem was, I felt, that 
blocks that were accessed from successful downloads were worth exactly 
the same as an access for an incomplete file which is no longer 
completely in the network, and this could potentially help keep old 
unusable data in the stores, modulo people getting tired of requesting 
unsuccessful data.

---
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[freenet-support] Thanks Matt

[John Meeks]

This isn't about *technical* support, I just wanted to tell Matthew thanks
for working on this project.  The US government is really scaring me and
I'm glad someone's working on this.  You're doing a great job man.

One question I have is that the paypal balance on the home page usually
says something like a few hundred $, and I was wondering if it's actually
generating the required $2300 per month, or if it's falling short.  I've
had a monthly donation set up for quite a while now, and I just want to
make sure everything is going well financially for the project.

Thanks again.

--- John

[freenet-support] No inbound connections - what am I doing wrong?

[John Hopkins]

Do you have any firewall software? Are there any errors in the log?

On 1/26/06, Petr Goldblum  wrote:
>
> OK, I've had problems with inbound connections before because of my
> router, but I'm not sure which bit I'm getting wrong this time.  I've
> got a bunch of outgoing connections but no inbound.
>
> I've set my ipAddress value to the external IP of the router, and
> removed the % in front of it.  I checked the ini file for the
> listening port and set up my router to forward that port to my
> internal IP.  What else do I need to do to get inbound connections?
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[freenet-support] Hypothetical question...

[John Meeks]

The new information about version 0.7 sounds pretty good, but one thing
about it concerns me.  Assuming I don't know anyone who is using freenet,
how do I get onto the network?  (Remember, I'm asking this about the next
version, since it says you can only connect if a "friend" lets you.
Assuming I don't have a friend already using freenet, how do I get
connected?)

This change worries me (unless I'm mis-understanding it), since it
basically ties the network to a group of real-life friends, it creates a
nice friendly map that the authorities could use to find everyone
interested in a given subject.  I don't think the Chinese government would
have any problems getting someone's computer and seeing all the "friends"
it lists.

In short, it seems like this change would create a set of isolated
networks, and remove the plausable deniability of the previous network.

The "network of trust" concept seems to me to be deeply flawed, since
spies have been able to infiltrate even the most guarded networks of
"friends" (ie. the Mafia, the Manhattan project, etc).  Trusting "some guy
I met on the internet" doesn't seem like something I'd really want to do.

I guess another way to look at it is that the network seems to be going
towards being more useful for people in countries like China and less
useful for people in the US.  Plausable deniability is more useful in the
US, whereas secrecy is more useful in China.  While I feel for people in
China, I myself am in the US, and so therefore look at the project from my
point of view (especially in the current political climate).

I'm also a bit concerned about the constant restarts, it seems that the
project is following the "fad security of the month" (although networks of
trust were around with PGP like 10 years ago).

Anyway, the reason I'm asking about this is because I currently have
Paypal set up to donate $20/month to the project, but I'm not
sure if I like the direction it's going.

Any better explanation of how this will work (mainly "how can I connect if
I don't already know someone") would be greately appreciated.

Thanks.

--- John

[freenet-support] Hypothetical question...

[John Meeks]

The new information about version 0.7 sounds pretty good, but one thing
about it concerns me.  Assuming I don't know anyone who is using freenet,
how do I get onto the network?  (Remember, I'm asking this about the next
version, since it says you can only connect if a friend lets you.
Assuming I don't have a friend already using freenet, how do I get
connected?)

This change worries me (unless I'm mis-understanding it), since it
basically ties the network to a group of real-life friends, it creates a
nice friendly map that the authorities could use to find everyone
interested in a given subject.  I don't think the Chinese government would
have any problems getting someone's computer and seeing all the friends
it lists.

In short, it seems like this change would create a set of isolated
networks, and remove the plausable deniability of the previous network.

The network of trust concept seems to me to be deeply flawed, since
spies have been able to infiltrate even the most guarded networks of
friends (ie. the Mafia, the Manhattan project, etc).  Trusting some guy
I met on the internet doesn't seem like something I'd really want to do.

I guess another way to look at it is that the network seems to be going
towards being more useful for people in countries like China and less
useful for people in the US.  Plausable deniability is more useful in the
US, whereas secrecy is more useful in China.  While I feel for people in
China, I myself am in the US, and so therefore look at the project from my
point of view (especially in the current political climate).

I'm also a bit concerned about the constant restarts, it seems that the
project is following the fad security of the month (although networks of
trust were around with PGP like 10 years ago).

Anyway, the reason I'm asking about this is because I currently have
Paypal set up to donate $20/month to the project, but I'm not
sure if I like the direction it's going.

Any better explanation of how this will work (mainly how can I connect if
I don't already know someone) would be greately appreciated.

Thanks.

--- John

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Re: [freenet-support] Hypothetical question...

[John Meeks]

On Sat, 17 Sep 2005, Matthew Toseland wrote:

 You will have to use the opennet, which is considerably less secure.

I didn't realize that there will still be an opennet.  Will this be in
version 0.7, or will there be two different versions, depending on whether
you want to use the opennet/darknet?

Thanks again.

--- John

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Re: [freenet-support] Re: Hypothetical question...

[John Meeks]

It seems to me that finding people to communicate with (trust) is the hard
part, and actually communicating with them is the easy part.  The opennet
allows you to not have to trust people, since everything is anonymous, and
thus solves the hard problem (in addition to the easy one).  The friends
network solves the easy problem (communication) but doesn't help with the
hard problem (finding people to trust).

There is one change that I think would be good:  Make it impossible to
construct any given file from any given node.  This turns deniability into
impossibility (ie. someone can't say the file was on the drive, and it
was encrypted they can only say part of the file was on the drive, but
we had to get the rest off the internet to get the file).  This seems to
have a better chance of standing up in court.  In other words, never let a
given node hold any complete file.

--- John

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Re: [freenet-support] First time firewall config help

[John Hart]

Matthew Toseland wrote:


On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 10:08:14AM +0930, John Hart wrote:
 


Hi,

There are two files * *freenet.conf and default.conf, which one do I
modify to enter the IP address of my router ?
   



freenet.conf is the config file for freenet. You don't need to tell it
about your router.
 


I use an old Netcomm firewall router, it has Port Forwarding option
which requires the Server IP Address, Incoming Port and Target Port. Info
for both ports needs to be filled to work. Do I put the Freenet Listen
Port number in twice?
   



Yes.
 


Any help would be great

Cheers

John Hart
   




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Thanks for the advice, I set the port forwarding and removed the router 
address from the freenet.conf file. looks like everything is working but 
VERY slow. Is this normal?


John
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Re: [freenet-support] First time firewall config help

[John Hart]

Matthew Toseland wrote:

  It is normal for it to be slow to start with. If you go to Open
Connections, do you have incoming connections or are they all outgoing?
If you have incoming connections, it should improve significantly over
time.

On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 08:09:44PM +0930, John Hart wrote:
  
  
Thanks for the advice, I set the port forwarding and removed the router 
address from the freenet.conf file. looks like everything is working but 
VERY slow. Is this normal?

John



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Hi,

Incoming and Outgoing connections seem to be idle. The log gives this
list of errors:

5/08/2005 11:20:29 (freenet.support.io.NIOInputStream, YThread-11):
waited more than 3ms in NIOIS.read() tcp/connection:
183965.94.175.92:2717,[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED]-
closing
java.lang.Exception: debug

 at freenet.support.io.NIOInputStream.read(NIOInputStream.java:319)
 at java.io.FilterInputStream.read(Unknown Source)
 at freenet.session.FnpLink.negotiateOutbound(FnpLink.java:637)
 at freenet.session.FnpLink.solicit(FnpLink.java:202)
 at
freenet.session.FnpLinkManager.createOutgoing(FnpLinkManager.java:111)
 at freenet.ConnectionJob.run(ConnectionJob.java:378)
 at freenet.ConnectionJob.createConnection(ConnectionJob.java:78)
 at
freenet.node.ConnectionOpener.checkpoint(ConnectionOpener.java:95)
 at
freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint.checkpoint(Checkpoint.java:54)
 at
freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint.received(Checkpoint.java:47)
 at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:177)
 at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:61)
 at
freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler$ChainContainer.run(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:335)
 at
freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler$ChainContainer.received(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:288)
 at
freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler$ChainContainer.access$100(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:207)
 at
freenet.node.StateChainManagingMessageHandler.handle(StateChainManagingMessageHandler.java:99)
 at freenet.Ticker$Event.run(Ticker.java:325)
 at
freenet.thread.YThreadFactory$YThread.run(YThreadFactory.java:285)

The connection data is:


  

  
  
  
  68.125.119.61:8992
  45:54
  -
  10KiB
  14 s
  5:29


  
  
  
  82.236.88.127:
  37:50
  -
  9KiB
  14 s
  4:46


  
  
  
  66.218.55.98:10960
  40:41
  -
  11KiB
  12 s
  3:39


  
  
  
  212.152.133.9:41875
  1436:527
  -
  190KiB
  0 s
  3:34


  
  
  
  82.92.183.7:12328
  22:24
  -
  5,920Bytes
  11 s
  2:43


  
  
  
  216.239.78.237:4426
  13:24
  -
  5,120Bytes
  0 s
  2:35


  
  
  
  82.134.90.234:11464
  146:63
  -
  19KiB
  2 s
  2:18


  
  
  
  claster47.mine.nu:27789
  30:33
  -
  7,680Bytes
  7 s
  2:15


  
  
  
  67.185.116.234:22027
  12:24
  -
  5,280Bytes
  2 s
  1:46


  
  
  
  g7ugc.shacknet.nu:12153
  11:9
  -
  4,000Bytes
  21 s
  53 s


  
  
  
  62.176.248.31:7878
  167:53
  -
  21KiB
  5 s
  51 s

  



John


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[freenet-support] First time firewall config help

[John Hart]

Hi,

There are two files * *freenet.conf and default.conf, which one do I
modify to enter the IP address of my router ?

I use an old Netcomm firewall router, it has Port Forwarding option
which requires the Server IP Address, Incoming Port and Target Port. Info
for both ports needs to be filled to work. Do I put the Freenet Listen
Port number in twice?

Any help would be great

Cheers

John Hart


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[freenet-support] FNP question

[John]

Hi
I'd like to know what the minimum information needed is to connect to a
freenet node via FNP.  Is it just the TCP address?  Or do you need all
the fields included in the node's reference?  I figure most of that is
just extra information which helps in routing requests.
Also I noticed that every time I export the node's reference the
signature information changes.  I'd like find out more about how FNP
works and what all this identity information is.  I haven't found
anything on freenethelp.org - can you suggest any resources?
Thanks
John
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[freenet-support] Re: emperical evidence for what I say

[John McCain]

+++ Newsbyte [02/12/04 22:26 +0100]:
freenet sucks, etc.
(paraphrased)

As long as we've agreed to continue this silliness, just what is your current
position?  That you should get your freenet.org e-mail address back because
freenet sucks?


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[freenet-support] Null pointer exception

[John Huttley]

in 5095


This is the stderror.log
This is what happens if you misspell the freenet log configuration line.




 Opening log file failed!
INFO: Native CPUID library
'freenet/support/CPUInformation/libjcpuid-x86-linux.so' loaded from
resource
INFO: Optimized native BigInteger library
'net/i2p/util/libjbigi-linux-athlon.so' loaded from resource
Exception in thread main java.lang.NullPointerException
at
freenet.support.LoggerHookChain.setThreshold(LoggerHookChain.java:96)
at freenet.support.LoggerHook.setThreshold(LoggerHook.java:111)
at freenet.Core.setupLogger(Core.java:820)
at freenet.node.Main.main(Main.java:448)


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[freenet-support] please discontinue my membership

[John Hebert]

Please discontinue my membership.

Thanks,
John Hebert



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[freenet-support] 5088 route not found

[John Doe]

Hi,
I'm afraid there's something quite wrong with build 5088. Namely, after 
having the node continuosly running for almost 48 hours, almost all I get is 
Route not found (0/0/0) messages. I've been lucky a few times with GPL.txt 
(although even this key doesn't seem to work reliably) and I even managed to 
pull the Freedom engine front page and a couple of other high traffic keys 
once.

This is despite the fact the I've re-seeded the node, I've got something 
like 50 established connections (in/out) with other nodes and the size of 
the store grows -- currently 240MB.

Most log messages are RateLimitingViolation although no local tuning was 
done in freenet.conf.

Any ideas/help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: [freenet-support] Can't limit bandwidth usage adequately

[John Huttley]

Input bandwidth limiting simply doesn't work.

Toad is aware of this however other issues have higher priority at this
time.

Regards

John


On Tue, 2004-08-03 at 10:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi, I'm relatively new to freenet.
 
 I have trouble limiting my incoming bandwidth (with the last 3 builds I've used
 since I started using freenet - currently on 5086).
 
 I'm running on a business internet line that has 1 Mbit/sec local traffic but
 only 6.4 kbyte/sec international traffic.  Most freenet traffic I gets seems to
 be international. As soon as my freenet node starts using an average 7 kbyte/sec
 the browsing of the web within the business becomes almost unusable if you are
 trying to access an international site.
 
 So, I want to limit my inbound bandwidth to around 4 kbyte/sec average.
 
 I tried the following in freenet.ini:
 
 inputBandwidthLimit=3000
 outputBandwidthLimit=2000
 maxNodeConnections=100
 doOutLimitCutoff=true
 outLImitCutoff=0.5
 doReserveOutputBandwidthForSuccess=true
 
 (plus variations of above and trying other values in configuration file that
 comments indicate may affect bandwidth usage)
 
 All with no good result.  Is it actually possible to limit bandwidth?
 
 With above settings inbound traffic (monitored via firewall software) averages
 around 7 kbyte/sec (peaking to 14 kbytes/sec) and outbound traffic averages 7
 kbyte/sec (peaking at around 10 kbyte/sec).
 
 This totally disrupts internet browsing for other users in business.
 
 Can anyone recommend settings that can truly limit my bandwidth usage please.
 
 Thanks,
  Bryce.
 
 
 
 PS. is there anyway to search this list - maybe the above has been asked before
 but I couldn't find where to go to do a search?
 
 
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[freenet-support] 5087 works well

[John Huttley]

Hi toad,
This is working really well for me.
CPU usage is negligable and I'm able to download stuff I couldn't get
before.

It did fail after a day or so with OOM (500M) but thats survivable.

Regards

John

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[freenet-support] 5086- Sucess

[John Huttley]

I'm having great success with this, toad.
My home node was previously moribund. Now its as full of life as a
spring lamb.


A minor quibble is on the stats reported on a failure.

I don't have an example on the screen, but it goes like..

Attempts were made to contact 3 nodes
1 cleanly rejected
2 ---
47 backed off

So it sure wasn't trying to talk to just 3 nodes!

--Regards

John

(proudly financing freenet each month)

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[freenet-support] 5086 Funny stats

[John Huttley]

Hi toad,
here I've the real thing


Attempts were made to contact 8 nodes.

  * 0 were totally unreachable.
  * 8 restarted.
  * 0 cleanly rejected.
  * 39 backed off.

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Re: [freenet-support] 5086 Funny stats

[John Huttley]

Thanks for explaining it Trevor.
I thought a backoff happened after attempting to contact them.
I must be confusing it with a reject.

Regards

John

On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 02:50, Trevor Smith wrote:
 John;
 
 39 backed off means 39 other nodes *would* have been contacted; but due to
 max queries or recent rejects; we did not contact them; but rather skipped
 them and continued looking for a node that we are still permitted to route
 to. (call this load balancing / overload avoidance or whatever you like) so
 47 nodes were considered; but we only attempted to contact 8
 


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[freenet-support] incoming bandwidth not limited

[John Huttley]

With 5084 (and previous) I'm seeing unlimited incoming traffic.

The conf setting is to limit to 8k but I'm seeing 30k, which is the link
limit.

I'm doing some downloads and I know incoming bw is hard to control, but
even so, i'd expect it to be sort of working.

There is no evidence its working at all.

Any thoughts?

Regards

dad




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Re: [freenet-support] freenet can't find Java

[John Huttley]

This sort of thing happens when you  are using 'su'  to runfree net as
another user.

like   su - freenet -c ./start-freenet.sh


That is how I start freenet. However su cleans out the environment
variables, before starting. In this case, it is setting PATH back to a
default.

The solution is to set PATH inside the script.

PATH=${PATH}:/path/to/your/java

Regards

Dad

On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 05:32, Daniel Lewis wrote:
 I downloaded and installed Java in /usr/java, but when I run freenet it says
 starting freenet now: Done then nice: java: no such file or directory.  I'm
 running Fedora Core 1, and am somewhat new to Linux so I'm not sure how to fix
 this problem.  Thanks
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Re: [freenet-support] Stable build 5077, Fproxy problems

[John Huttley]

Toad wrote:
 {many nice things}
Thank you toad, a job well done!

Could you please cast your eye to the http interface.

What happens -- Has happend for ages.-- is that after a minimal amount 
of activity.
OR a modest amount of up time, http connection via fproxy are unresponsive.

This is very much like the max connection problems of the browsers which 
have been documented.
Fixes for Mozilla are also documented, and applied.

However I can browse with galeon, experience artic level slowdowns 
whilst talking to the local node (!!)

Then power up mozilla (user.prefs updated) and instantly have the same 
problems, talking to the local node.

Netstat will show maybe 30 or 40 connections open to fproxy

It's Dire. Its been around for a year, more I'm sure.

Regards

John
Ps,
the reward for good work is the chance to do more good work.
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Re: [freenet-support] Blackdown

[John Huttley]

On Tue, 2004-02-10 at 13:43, Todd wrote:
  Hello,
 
 Hey.
 
  I've tried running freenet stable with blackdown-1.4.1 under linux
  (gentoo)
  Unfortunately it fails after a little while.
 
 Fails with what?  Are you sure it's the JVM and not Freenet?

Yes, java seems to be running but fproxy is not contactable.
It seems to run for a few hours ok.


  I've switched back to sun 1.4.2_03
 
 Does it now not fail?

Runs Fine.

 I haven't used Freenet (or much of anything, actually) for two months 
 now.  Blackdown/Freenet was working for me as of December 12, 2003.  
 Funny.

Thats computers for you.


 -todd
 
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[freenet-support] Blackdown

[John Huttley]

Hello,

I've tried running freenet stable with blackdown-1.4.1 under linux
(gentoo)
Unfortunately it fails after a little while.

I've switched back to sun 1.4.2_03

Regards

john


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Re: [freenet-support] Blackdown

[John Huttley]

Hi Todd,

Thats good news!

Regards

john

On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 08:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I run Gentoo/Blackdown, and I have no problems.
 
 Sorry you didn't get a reply sooner.
 
 -todd
 
 
 Quoting John Huttley [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  I am about to switch to gentoo/Blackdown 1.4.1
  
  Do we have any issues?
  
  Regards
  
  John
 
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Re: [freenet-support] Expanding a datastore

[John Huttley]

Thanks, Toad

I wasn't sure, from the comments in the conf, file what would happen.

Regards
john


On Sat, 2004-01-03 at 13:13, Toad wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 03, 2004 at 01:12:04PM +1300, John Huttley wrote:
  Hi,
  Is there any way of expanding a ds?,
  I'd like to go from 5Gb to maybe 10, _Without_ erasing it.
 
 No problem, just change the storeSize in the config.

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[freenet-support] Freenet woes

[John McCain]

Okay, we all know the following:

As of right now, freenet pretty much does not work.  Content cannot be 
accessed.  People have stopped trying to update content, and people are 
dropping out of the network.  The character of the discussion of freenet has 
changed from a working free network to an interesting but incomplete science 
project.

What is the problem?  I understand that bugs happen, and I am not looking to 
bust anyone's chops over it.  I am interested, however, in knowing the 
following things:

-Do the developers know what is wrong?
-Are they sure that freenet's bad behavior of late is not the result of some 
sort of poisoning attack?

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Re: [freenet-support] An amusing statistic

[John Huttley]

Got you beat!

Estimated external pSearchFailed (based only on QueryRejections due to
load):3.1624491533886337E-121



On Wed, 2003-12-03 at 07:58, Kevin Bennett wrote:
 I looked at the general page of the web interface and was a little amused to
 see the following figure:
 
 Current recommended request interval sent to client nodes
 1.9478309723356009E9ms
 
 That's roughly 22.5 *days* :D
 
 Kevin.
 
 
 
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[freenet-support] Rounding

[John Huttley]

I've just got 5039 going and after 15 minutes has not gone berserk.
Always a good sign.

I laughed when i saw the Estimated external PSearchFailed number
1.2653853272907117E-24

Perhaps we could just round this abit?

Regards
Dad

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[freenet-support] Question 2

[John]

So Dave, if I set the HTL to, say 4000 the next time I get a page that I 
can't access, and just leave it to complete, will that mean that my list 
of learned nodes will be increased by 4000 ?

John



The seednodes file is only needed when you start freenet the first time. 
After that it will load the nodes that it has learned. You'll only need 
it again if your routingtables become corrupted. Dave

Daily, when I download the most recent unstable build (to overwrite 
freenet.jar), should I also be downloading and overwriting the 
seednodes.ref file?



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[freenet-support] Question 2

[John]

Daily, when I download the most recent unstable build (to overwrite 
freenet.jar), should I also be downloading and overwriting the 
seednodes.ref file?

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[freenet-support] questions

[John McCain]

I am a newbie who has just set up a permanent node, and I'm getting
abysmal results trying to access freesites.  The few attempts that
succeed take up to an hour to load, and most sites never come back at
all.  Is this performance normal?  I've heard conflicting reports about
how to improve performance, from adding every site you've ever seen to
your seedrefs file to cleaning out your seedrefs file.  What's the deal
on improving performance?  Is it simply a matter of time?

I expect my IP address to change soon?  What effect will this have on my
node?  Will I need to blast all the data and do a fresh install, or can
I move the working node to the new address?


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Re: [freenet-support] ????????????????????????????????W H A T NO W ????????????????????????????

[John McCain]

So, you are able to connect to your localhost: or something like
that and get the status web pages, right?

On the main page, you should notice three links, one of which is the
freedom engine.  This effectively is the freenet portal.  Freenet
itself is like the web was in the Early '90s.  No search engines. 
Everything is linked pages from there on in.

On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 10:27, Bernhard Kluge wrote:
 OK!
 I have installed FREENET and got an nice clean Webinfo side, but what
 now
 What to do and where to get what ? I klick evreywhere on the nice clean
 webdoc but i cant not get any usefull done whit it.
 
 So ? where to go from here ???
 The ide was very good but it isnt for normal peaple or what. because it
 need an kvalified somthing to work arount or i am very very stupid.
 Every thing that takes more than five minets is not ready to use for
 normal people.
 
 EX. What meanes whit KEY is it an webaddress (its look like it) where
 to get   so caled   KEY   ´  S
 entries: 0=What entries
 ?
 globalRequestsPerHour: 0.0 =What
 requests and global
 ?
 localRequestsPerHour: 0.0   = What
 Local i know that 127.0.0.1 is my own maskin but so what  PerHour
 ??
 
 
 So please help an very very stupid user to understand so i can get an
 AAHA! experiens
 and maybe can be an exelent user off this wonderful system.
 
 MvH Bernhard
 
 
 
 
 
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[freenet-support] I figured it out (Network Error Again (more details)

[John E. Mayorga]

I swtitched the logging to debug mode and found that
the error was that I had the datastore set too small.
During the installation, it was suggested that 2500kb
(or something like that), so I typed in 2500. I
thought the number entered was in kilobytes. Looking
at the freenet.conf file, I found that it was in
bytes, not kilobytes. I set the number low to start
off, but I didn't mean for it to be THAT low.

Anyways, my suggestion to Ian: during installation,
specify the units entered when asking the question of
the storeSize.

Thanks everybody.

John


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[freenet-support] Mac OS

[John Stewart]

Freenetproject
I need an older version of the freenet software, one that will
run in Mac OS 8.6. Where can I go to download the older versions
of freenet?

Thanks

John



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Freenet 0.3.9.1 Windows Installer (best option) (without Java) is imposible 
to install, it stops at the execute: C:\Program 
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Freenet 0.3.9.1 Windows Installer (best option) (without Java) is imposible 
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[freenet-support] Key Questions

[John Goerzen]

Hi,

I'm new to Freenet and I'm struggling to understand some of the
implications of all the different key types.  Unfortunately, the
documentation in this regard is really lacking.  So:

First, what is the difference between an MSK and a SSK?  I've seen
SSKs that essentially look just like MSKs, with paths to html
documents and whatnot.  Why then is there any need for the MSK?

Secondly, what is the whole point of this date-based redirect thing?
To me, it seems that it has a lot of downsides; if the original author
of content drops off the 'net for even a few days, it's lost
even if it's popular.  That's not good, I think.  Are there better
ways of doing these things that are still secure?

Third, what is the purpose of the KSKs, which appear to be insecure,
when we have things like CHKs?

Fourth, what are the types of keys that can be updated?  It seems to
me that any using public-key cryptography should be updatable but this
is apparently not the case?  (No doubt there are architectural
limitations that I'm not aware of that prevent this...)

Also:

 There is Freenet.client.IndexClient that some pages reference
 but there are zero docs on it.  Can someone explain what it does
 and how it works?

 How exactly do people handle feedback to sites now, and in the past?
 The Snarfoo pages seemed to indicate that there is the current
 method that absolutely requires the site maintainer to check back
 each day, and the old method that didn't.  Can anyone fill me in?

 What purpose is there to specifying -htl for an *insert*?

Thanks,
John Goerzen


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