Re: [freenet-support] Which version of Freenet is supposed to work ?

2004-12-18 Thread evolution
Quoting Thomas Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Downloaded and installed STABLE-1.51.
 After ca 15 minutes none of the portal sites at the main page at the web
 interface have showed up.

15 minutes is not enough...  I don't know what the current best estimate is, but
it's certainly going to take hours to start getting stuff.  Whether 2 or 12 I
couldn't tell you.  How long did it take to integrate when you were using
Freenet last time?  I wouldn't think it was much different.

 Maybe it's just a question of time (how long), but I think it's in place
 to check  if I'm using the right version.
 Am I ?

For version, STABLE-1.51 is nigh useless.  The useful version number to report
is the build number, listed on the gateway page, centered above the active
links area.

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] java crash within two hours running build 5100

2004-12-12 Thread evolution
Quoting Paul Derbyshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 The final few lines before the crash would perhaps be more useful.
 Then we'd know what it was doing, or trying to do, when it shot
 itself in the foot.

Screwing the pooch, maybe?

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] java crash within two hours running build 5100

2004-12-12 Thread evolution
Quoting Chris Gentile [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Haven't been running a node for a few months lately.
 So just yesterday I updated and relaunched.
 I've wiped my routing clean, my store, and reseeded.
 I get a crash like this after at most 2 hours of uptime!

Though you may be able to get help from someone else here more knowledgable than
I, this looks like a Java problem, as Paul said.  Especially since:

 # Please report this error at
 # http://java.sun.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi

Have you done that?  Might help.  Unlikely, with Sun, but possible.

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] Re: [Tech] Is it always this slow?/kicked out of

2004-12-02 Thread evolution
Quoting Clueless [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Thanks for your answers, all in all I'm happy now with the performance of
 Freenet, I've given it 6GB to store data and it already uses 1.5GB.

This is heartening to hear.  I really wonder how often we gain a user who makes
it past the initial (slow) ramp-up of node performance.

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] Re: [Tech] Is it always this slow?/kicked out of

2004-12-02 Thread evolution
Quoting Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 01:33:28AM +, Clueless wrote:
  Now it's better, although as I write this, all I get is The network is
  busy, please try again later while trying to download FUQID, a program one
  seems to absolutely need to download from Freenet...

 you don't need FUQID to download files from freenet

I thought he was saying that to get FUQID, you need to download it from Freenet.
 Not that you need FUQID in order to download anything from Freenet.

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] Re: [Tech] Is it always this slow?/kicked out of

2004-12-01 Thread evolution
Why is it only the clueless new user who's talking about Freenet on this
Freenet mailing list right now?

-todd


Quoting Clueless [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 23:37:52 +0100, Someone wrote:

 Even on ADSL it isn't so slow. Shure it is much slower than browsing a
 normal Website. But this I do expect when the data has to pass through
 multiple nodes, with maybe even some ISDN or 56K users in the chain.

 I guess it depends on how long you had Freenet running, and how big the data
 store is.  On the first day, it was almost unusable for me.

 Now it's better, although as I write this, all I get is The network is busy,
 please try again later while trying to download FUQID, a program one seems
 to
 absolutely need to download from Freenet...

 The whole experience just isn't very newbie-friendly. A lot of people are
 probably giving up after a few hours because they don't feel 'geeky' enough.

 For a start, I think it would be good to have a current version of the
 important
 programs on the http://www.freenetproject.org/index.php?page=download page.

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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet under a chroot

2004-12-01 Thread evolution
 On Sun, Nov 07, 2004 at 05:05:23PM -0600, Eric Gillingham wrote:
 No that wasnt it, I fooled with it some more and copied a few more libs
 and /etc/ files and got it working using chrootuid yesterday. However
 since then I ended up writing my own C wrapper to accomplish this, when
 I get some time I plan on doing a writeup somewhere and releasing
 documentation on what I did so others that might be interesting in doing
 it may do so.

Did anything come of this?  It'd be kind of cool to try it out.

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] New sudo on Gnetoo breaks freenet

2004-11-23 Thread evolution
Quoting Salah Coronya [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Seee bug 71835 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71835 .

 The fix is to uncomment this line:

 Defaults:%wheel !env_reset

 and Freenet will run. This may not be the best answer though.

Ah!!  I was wondering why I couldn't get Freenet to run!  Thank you, Salah, for
posting this to the list.  Thank you.

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] Open Gateway Problem

2004-11-22 Thread evolution
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Does that mean you're on Windows?  What build are you running?  5099?

 Sorry...Yes, it's Windows XP Pro, SP2. Hmmm...right click/About
 says 0.5.2.8?

The build number is on the gateway page.  It says Build: and then the number,
and then your node's load.  5100 is out, so you should probably upgrade,
regardless.

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] Open Gateway Problem

2004-11-21 Thread evolution
Quoting Keith Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I apologize if this problem has been previously discussed on the
 list, but I didn't see a way to search the archives. Is that
 possible?

Yes, go to freenetproject.org, click on support or mailing lists and then
the archive link for one of the lists.  It leads to gmane, which lets you
search past postings.

 Also, www.freenethelp.org didn't work for me. Does anyone know if
 the site is out of service, or just temporarily down?

Though I can't say for sure, it's probably just temporarily unavailable to you. 
Keep trying.

 Anyway, I just discovered Freenet and downloaded and installed
 the client. When I right click on the icon is the tray and choose
 Open Gateway, my browser opens but I get a Connection refused
 error.

Does that mean you're on Windows?  What build are you running?  5099?

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] Are TFE and FIND dead?

2004-11-20 Thread evolution
Quoting Someone [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hmmm, I couldn't get TFE and FIND in the last 4 days. Most Frost
 groups are also much more silent than usual. Could someone else
 get TFE or FIND, or is there some kind of problem within the
 network?

I've been getting TFE fine, but I haven't been able to load FIND for almost a
week.  The lists are pretty silent lately, as well.  Conspiracy theory, anyone?

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet (5099 stable) tries to connect to IANA reserved IPs

2004-11-12 Thread evolution
Quoting Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Sun, Oct 31, 2004 at 10:04:28AM +0100, Klaus Eckhoff wrote:
  - 5.0.2.0
  - 5.255.116.166
  - 1.121.22.146
 
  All these IPs are IANA reserved (and will be blocked by ProtoWall
  for that reason). I'm wondering why freenet tries to connect
  to this IPs, maybe it's a bug? Anybody else noticed such a
  behaviour?

 Not according to RFC 3330:
 ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc3330.txt

RFC 3330 only lists specially marked ranges of domains.  5.0.0.0/8 and 1.0.0.0/8
are listed by ARIN as, respectively, the RESERVED-5 and RESERVED-9 networks,
owned and oeprated by IANA itself.  So, they're IANA reserved, but shouldn't
necessarily be blocked by a firewall.  Unless the makers of the firewall know
something I don't.

ws.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl?queryinput= is the ARIN lookup form.  Try, for
example:

http://ws.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl?queryinput=N%20.%20RESERVED-5
or http://ws.arin.net/cgi-bin/whois.pl?queryinput=1.121.22.146

So the question becomes: is the IANA running a node?

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] need HELP

2004-11-09 Thread evolution
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 also i have a website with losta files and stuff and it is in BT
 but i am worried about getting tracked and caught so i am trying to
 make this switch... so i need to know how to seed to... if someone
 has a step by step guide on EVERYTHING please let me know

If files are your thing, you might do better to check out I2P:

http://www.i2p.net/

Freenet is not well suited to sharing lots of files.  There's a BitTorrent
set-up in the works for I2P as well.

Freenet fits the traditional communication model better; things like blogs
(flogs) and the occasional moderate-sized file propagate easier and stay in
Freenet longer.  If you'd like to share your opinions as well as your files,
you're welcome and encouraged to set up a site in Freenet.

There's a wiki at:
http://www.freenethelp.org/

As for the Data Not Found (DNF) messages, how much uptime have you given your
node?  It takes a while to get integrated.  If you're getting DNF on
*everything*, starting with the gateway page, then you probably need to give
your node more time to integrate.  Leave it running.

Even then you have to understand that stuff falls of the network.  Even if FIND
or TFE has a freenet site listed, it may still be just gone forever.  The best
you can do is load it up and let it sit there and reload itself over and over. 
If it hasn't loaded after ~12 hours, it's really gone.

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] Problem using freenet

2004-11-06 Thread evolution
Quoting sutonimh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Dumb newbie here.  Just started using Freenet about 4 hours ago,
 installed frost too.  Soo far I can't seem to view anything past the web
 interface splash page.  Various errors, most common is the Route not
 found error.  Renewed the seednodes.  And have tried resetting freenet
 several times.  Advice?

Most probably it just hasn't had time to integrate into the network.  Let it run
for as long as you can.  Check every once in a while to see if you can load
something.  It'll need at least five hours of uninterrupted operation before it
starts to retrieve stuff, and then another good chunk of time before it'll start
reliably retrieving stuff.  What I've noticed is that Freenet benefits greatly 
from as much operation time as you can give it.  Meaning, it's not a simple
ramp up to expected operation.  The ramp keeps going and going.

A slim possibility, based on your report, is that you have a real problem in the
set up.  Try the above time-giving first.

While you're waiting, you can visit:
https://freenet.thing.net/gateways/

It's a list of public Freenet gateways.  It's non-anonymous, since your info
travels over the non-Freenet portion of the Internet, so beware.  But it's
proof that there is a Freenet, and you can whet your appetite.  *g*

Mail this list if you're still having the problem after a day or two.

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] Announce Digest: Virus?

2004-11-06 Thread evolution
Quoting Anonymous Freenetter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 In a message Ian wrote:
 If you want to ask me a question then send me an email, what relevance
 does this have to the support mailing list?

 This may have been off topic I'll grant, but sheesh.

I'll agree with the first part, but not the sheesh.

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] Stable build 5099, network reset, please upgrade

2004-10-26 Thread evolution
Quoting Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Stable build 5099 is now available widely.

Do we have to do the wait-for-larger-network-to-get-new-seednodes thing, as was
stated with 5097 and 5098?

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] Windows and JRE 1.5

2004-10-23 Thread evolution
This would make a good entry in the FAQ.

-todd


Quoting Dave Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 webinstall.exe only accepts 1.4.x JRE.  Maybe that should be changed but,
 until it is, you won't be able to install freenet that way.
 Of course, you could just hack your registry and it will just work:

 After installing JRE 1.5 (or whatever JRE you want to use) create this key:

 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\JavaSoft\Java Runtime Environment\1.4

 and copy everything from
 HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\JavaSoft\Java Runtime Environment\1.5.1_5   (or
 whatever it's called)
 into ...\1.4 also.

 That will trick the installer into thinking the JRE is a 1.4 JRE.


 Alternatively somebody could fix the installer.  I don't think there are any
 significant reasons why you can't just install a 1.4 JRE in the first
 place...

 d
   - Original Message -
   From: Gilles Gravier
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 8:11 AM
   Subject: [freenet-support] Windows and JRE 1.5


   Hi!

   Just tried to install Freenet 5090
 (http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/freenet-webinstall.exe) on Windows XP...
 with the latest JRE 1.5.0 installed. Unfortunately, the freenet installer
 then complains that it can't find a suitable JRE to run with.

   Of course, I don't want to also install the 1.4.1 JRE... I want to stay
 with 1.5.0 or better.

   Regards,
   Gilles.

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Re: [freenet-support] Re: Data store wiped - 11 Gb gone.

2004-10-12 Thread evolution
Quoting Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Mon, Oct 11, 2004 at 04:15:52PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  To time the node, I check the logs.  Start time is Starting Freenet.
  End time is starting ListenSelector.  Does this work?

 Yup.

Okay, I ran startups.  Six actually, three with useDSIndex=true, and three with
false.

Startup times:

useDSIndex=true
48secs 34secs 40secs

useDSIndex=false
27secs 37secs 33secs

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] Re: Data store wiped - 11 Gb gone.

2004-10-11 Thread evolution
Quoting Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Sure, just time how long it takes to start up on a big store a few
 times, with each of doIndex=true and doIndex=false.

On Linux, how does a person know that startup is finished?

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] Re: Data store wiped - 11 Gb gone.

2004-10-11 Thread evolution
Quoting Someone [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Maybe the node should have some type of button on the fproxy page to do
 a clean shutdown.

Can you not right click on the blue bunny in the system tray and select
Shutdown?

-todd

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[freenet-support] KSK Inserts

2004-10-11 Thread evolution
I'm frustrated because I can't NIM.  Whenever I try to NIM someone I get:

The Insert Request failed.
Reason: Request failed gracefully: freenet.client.WrongStateException: Wrong
state: FAILED should be DONE: after waiting for next process

On a tangentially-related note, I'm getting a lot of Couldn't connect to the
network. Are you sure you have configured Freenet correctly? Also make sure
that you are connected to the internet.

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] Re: Data store wiped - 11 Gb gone.

2004-10-11 Thread evolution
Quoting Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Mon, Oct 11, 2004 at 02:09:43PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Linux, how does a person know that startup is finished?

 From the log.

Okay, well, my logging is set to Normal.  When I start up the node, I get a log
entry for Starting Freenet, many more, and then an entry for starting
ListenSelector, which appears to be the last starting up type message.  The
next entry is from NIOInputStream and says waited more than 12ms in
NIOIS.read() blah blah blah.

Am I to assume that the ListenSelector message means the node is fully started?
If it's *starting* something, then obviously the node is *not* fully started,
but, lacking a blatant Node is started log statement, the ListenSelector
statement will do, correct?  The doIndex part comes before ListenSelector is
started, right?

Okay, in case I just twisted you in English knots, I'll restate the original
purpose.  I want to time how long it takes the node to start, and compare with
doIndex equals true and false.  To time the node, I check the logs.  Start time
is Starting Freenet.  End time is starting ListenSelector.  Does this work?

-todd

post script: *scratch head*  I just checked freenet.conf, and it seems the
doIndex that I remember, and that you, Toad, referred to in the previous emails
is not there.  It's called useDSIndex.  Has it changed recently?

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Re: [freenet-support] which jvm?

2004-10-07 Thread evolution
Quoting futureworlds [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I currently have:

 Java 2 Runtime Environement, Standard Edition 1.4.1_03

 Would I be better off getting:

What operating system are you running?

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] which jvm?

2004-10-07 Thread evolution
Quoting Jay Oliveri [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Tuesday 05 October 2004 02:16 pm, futureworlds wrote:
  given win98se and being forced to run with only 64mb ram on a p233

 Not much you can do except run Freenet on at least NT4 or Win2K.  Win98
 cannot handle an application like Freenet, and you might have too little
 ram to even *make* it work.

Although if you do get it to work, futureworlds, let us know, please.

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] which jvm?

2004-10-07 Thread evolution
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Thu, 2004-10-07 at 05:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Although if you do get it to work, futureworlds, let us know, please.

 Er ... futureworlds is a Mixmaster anonymous remailer dummy address.

Ah, I see.  This issue has come up before with somebody using Toad's email
address to mail to the list.

I wish it was common to insert some kind of short text, forwarded from or some
such.

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] Timed content

2004-09-16 Thread evolution
Quoting daniele [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I was thinking about the incredible amount of space that is used within
 freenet to hold contents that no one will never try to retrieve,
 because, for example, they are obsolete.
 If the person that puts the content on freenet knows that, for example,
 within 1 week, it will be obsolete, because of newer releases or because
 no one will know no more about its existence (eg: files shared via
 frost), or for anything else, it would be great if he could specify a
 time when every node keeping parts of the file can delete them (removing
 the file from freenet).

God no.  Please not this again...

This idea has been discussed before.  I've looked in the archives for relevant
email, but it was a long time ago and I can't find it.  (using gmane anyway)

Part of the problem with your idea, daniele, is that it goes against the design
of the Freenet network.  It amounts to censorability and there's no perceived
need for it anyway.

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] wget: a freenet trainer?

2004-09-16 Thread evolution
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 do yourself a favour and do not use wget; use puf (google for it)
 this downloader comes along fine with the '//' without being hacked and
 patched, is able to download dozens of files in parallel (which is extremely
 useful as transfers take a long time with freenet) and can be
 configured much more in detail than wget can

Oh, man...  I've been searching for a downloader that would work with Freenet
for a long time.  I've tried big bloated website mirroring tools, browser
plug-ins, and a hacked version of wget (which worked, but didn't work out). 
And suddenly - *poof* - comes puf.  Thanks for the tip, panamerica.

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] Virus found in Freenet Update

2004-08-28 Thread evolution
Quoting Niklas Bergh [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Says downloader.OG is Windows-specific. This suggests it can't possibly
 have infected a JAR file. Okay, WHICH FILE did it report was infected?

 [12:16] osh I'm still curious about this downloader-og that my antivirus
 claims that nodeconfig.exe contains. Is my AV fscked up or is something
 else a bit fishy?

Delete it.  Do we even support the use of nodeconfig.exe anymore?

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Re: [freenet-support] Current stable build numbers

2004-08-25 Thread evolution
Quoting Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Setting up a wiki on the site to help with documentation and other
 tidbits might be worth considering. I'm sure there are many non-coders
 that would be willing to help mantain documentation and other
 faq/how-to stuff.
 ~Paul

http://www.freenethelp.org/ is the functional Freenet wiki at the moment.  There
has been a series of wikis on the freenetproject.org web site itself, but it
never seemed to work.  The freenethelp.org site seems to be working a little
better.

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] Current stable build numbers

2004-08-22 Thread evolution
Quoting Sonax [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 The change from stable 5089 to 5090 got me thinking if it should be more
 easy for users to find out what the current stable build is.

 I know that if you follow the mailing lists or if you log into the irc
 channels you can get it, but why not make it _easy_ to find out what
 the latest stable build is?

 So i sugest that:
 On the webpage http://freenetproject.org/, right under (or over or...)
 the sourceforge logo we add a image/text box with the current stable
 build (that Toad and/or other devls can change).
 and/or
 We make a new mailing list that is used to only anounce new stable builds.
 Again, i know that new builds are anounced to the other lists, but let's
 face that there is also a lot of noice (or what will seem like noice
 to the average user) on these lists.

Anyone?  This sounds like an excellent idea to me.  Well, not the extra mailing
list idea, but the Current Stable Build is: on the front page idea.

Please?

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Re: [freenet-support] reseed

2004-08-20 Thread evolution
Quoting Kevin Steen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 2) Whenever you startup a freenet node, it will take some time to learn
 the network again. For the first hour you will probably only be able to
 access very popular content. For this reason, Freenet isn't very useful
 to modem users at the moment, but the problems are being worked on!

This isn't true.  For one thing, there've been people on this list who use
dial-up, and claim that it works just fine.  For another thing, the node
doesn't have to re-learn the network every time it starts.  There may be a
minor, two or three minute, delay in functioning, but not the hours that
learning takes.

Logically, re-learning is only necessary when the actual state of the network is
different than the what's in the nodes routing table.  Most of the nodes that
are going to be in a node's routing table are the ones that are useful.  The
ones that are useful are the larger, more permanent nodes run by broadband
users with some dedication to the project, yes?  Those nodes don't change that
often.  My node runs pretty close to 24/7.

I doubt the problem above is due (directly) to the node being on a modem line. 
As long as the node is given a few hours to run once in a while it should be
fine.  Never as good as a broadband node, but not useless.  As Robert wrote,
the node worked fine before.

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] I need to limit the amount of memory java uses.

2004-08-19 Thread evolution
Quoting Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I've read that there should be a parameter that limits java's mem usage in
 /usr/bin/start-freenet.sh. Mine seems to lack that parameter.  here is a copy
 of my start-freenet.sh:

 #!/bin/bash
 # This script is a companion script to the Gentoo freenet init script.
 # Logs freenet's stdout and stderr for debugging needs.
 #
 # Author: Brandon Low [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 #
 ${JAVA} ${JAVA_ARGS} freenet.node.Main -p /etc/freenet.conf \
  /var/freenet/freenet.stdout.log 2 /var/freenet/freenet.stderr.log
 
 echo $!

Steve: This is interesting.  If you don't submit a bug report to
bugs.gentoo.org, I will.  This script, /usr/bin/start-freenet.sh is essentially
another method of running Freenet on Gentoo, the other being
'/etc/init.d/freenet start'.  The init script correctly sets JVM memory usage,
but the above doesn't, of course.  The init script properly sets memory usage
by looking in /etc/conf.d/freenet.  In /etc/conf.d/freenet, the environment
variable called $JAVA_OPTIONS is set to -Xmx256M, by default.

There are two ways you could fix this.  1) is to change the above script to
somehow have the -Xmx256M option passed to ${JAVA}, along with what's already
there.  Either add it directly or set $JAVA_OPTIONS and add that.  2) is to run
Freenet from the initscript, which requires being root.

Number 2, of course, is much better than number 1.  For one thing, your number 1
will get overwritten in the future.

Let me/us know if you still have problems.

-todd

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[freenet-support] Gentoo Freenet Script

2004-08-19 Thread evolution
If you're running Freenet from a Portage-installed package on Gentoo, the
following script will work.

--

#!/bin/sh
# Freenet Wrapper Script

if [ ${1} == start ]; then
echo /etc/init.d/freenet start
/etc/init.d/freenet start
fi

if [ ${1} == stop ]; then
echo /etc/init.d/freenet stop
/etc/init.d/freenet stop
fi

if [ ${1} == restart ]; then
echo /etc/init.d/freenet restart
/etc/init.d/freenet restart
fi

# The most important part follows.  This is to
# update the node.  The others are almost as easy
# to do myself, from the command line.  But the
# update script is the heart of the matter.

if [ ${1} == update ]; then
cp -f /usr/lib/freenet/freenet.jar.old
/usr/lib/freenet/freenet.jar.ancient
cp -f /usr/lib/freenet/freenet.jar /usr/lib/freenet/freenet.jar.old
wget http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/freenet-latest.jar -O
/usr/lib/freenet/freenet.jar
wget http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/seednodes.ref.bz2 -O
/var/freenet/seednodes.ref.bz2
bunzip2 -f /var/freenet/seednodes.ref.bz2

touch -d 1/1/1970 /var/freenet/seednodes.ref
chown freenet:freenet /var/freenet/seednodes.ref
fi

--

Call this script freenet and add it to your $PATH and running/administering
Freenet becomes a matter of typing 'freenet start'.  This may not be useful,
it's almost just as easy to type '/etc/init.d/freenet start', or you may have
'rc-update add freenet default' in the past.  But the fourth option 'freenet
update' is where it gets interesting.  The default install of Freenet, via
Portage, requires you to type that god-awful ebuild-config-wait-2-seconds
thing.  Once you get that typed in you have the problem of wget nuking your
Freenet jar if freenetproject.org is down.  This happened to me.  Wget tried to
overwrite the freenet.jar, but since the website was down, got no further than
the 0th byte, leaving me with no Freenet. =(

The above script fixes both of these issues.  It simplifies the command to
update Freenet, and it makes a backup of freenet.jar before downloading the new
one.

Caveats: It actually makes two backups.  This is probably not useful to anybody.
 You can remove the creation of the second backup.  Also, this doesn't handle
updating unstable nodes.  But if you're running unstable, you're more than
likely not running a Portage ebuild of Freenet.  Third caveat, I suppose, is
that this doesn't give you a 'freenet config' command.  'vi /etc/freenet.conf'.

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet on FreeBSD

2004-08-18 Thread evolution
Quoting S [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I have written a cronjob and some accompanying scripts, such that the
 cronjob runs once per minute, and ensures that Freenet is running, and
 if not, runs it, unless I had at some prior point manually run
 =2E/stop-freenet.sh, in which case the script realizes that I had
 intentionally stopped Freenet, and does not fire it up.

I'm not sure if it's right for the job, I only discovered it the other day, but
there's something called supervise in the daemontools package.  It can be
found here:

http://cr.yp.to/daemontools.html

It's in Gentoo's Portage, it's in ports, there's an RPM available.  'supervise'
will run a program and restart it if it exits, until you stop it.  I've not
tried it.

-todd

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[freenet-support] The Windows Installer

2004-08-11 Thread evolution
Reason for email:

I just installed Freenet on a Windows machine.  This wasn't an update, this was
a fresh install.  I told the Windows installer to not create shortcuts, but
it did.  This is strange, because it hasn't done this before.  I went through
step-by-step, and when I got to the place where I could check Do Not Create
Shortcuts I checked it.  Yet, I get a Freenet icon on the desktop, a Freenet
program group entry in the Start Menu, and a Freenet shortcut in the Startup
folder.  This was for 5090.  When I updated to 5091 I told it again to not
create shortcuts and, again, it did.

Outstanding Issues:

On another note, whether or not Freenet starts up when Windows starts should be
separate from whether or not to create shortcuts.  They're logically different
(especially for those who don't know how a user sets a program to startup
automatically) and the choice has been separated in every other Windows
installer I've ever seen, making it the expected behavior.

On yet another note, can't we have a separate build updater?  Separate from the
installer, I mean.  It doesn't make sense to answer where I want the
installation to go on the filesystem, and whether or not to create shortcuts,
when I'm updating an existing installation.  update.bat?

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] The Windows Installer

2004-08-11 Thread evolution
Quoting myself:

 On yet another note, can't we have a separate build updater?  Separate from
 the installer, I mean.  It doesn't make sense to answer where I want the
 installation to go on the filesystem, and whether or not to create shortcuts,
 when I'm updating an existing installation.  update.bat?

Egads.  I apologize.  How long has that UpdateSnapshot.exe been there? *g*

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] java.lang.OutOfMemoryError

2004-08-09 Thread evolution
Quoting petr [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I'm sort of a newbie at this, but I'm trying to get Freenet to work and not
 having much luck.  I assume I don't have a connection to Freenet because none
 of the links on the Freenet website that require Freenet work.  I looked at
 freenet.log, and at the very end is this error:
 Caught java.lang.OutOfMemoryError running or seeding node
 java.lang.OutOfMemoryError
 Is this what's causing my problem?

Probably.  There's currently an issue with the seednodes.ref file.  It's big. 
So big, in fact, that loading it into memory causes an out-of-memory condition.
 A crude way of dealing with the situation is to open the seednodes.ref file
(found in the directory where you installed Freenet) and deleting half of the
entries there.  Note, however, that the problem will be fixed in the next build
(5091).

If you do surgery on the seednodes.ref, remember to download a new seednodes.ref
file when you next update your node.

Seednodes can be found here:
http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/seednodes.ref

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] node on a server, and at home?

2004-08-09 Thread evolution
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  With the above resources how do I get the most out of it? (configuration).
  My BIGGEST thing is speed. I hate not finding what I am looking for and I
  hate file not founds.

 uhm, transfer speed of a splitfile is great and is able to easily max out
 your connection as the split-file is retrieved in parallel from different
 sources.  overall, freenet has a large latency but usually a nice transfer
 speed.

Although, the best configuration, I think, would be to run just one node, and
access that node from wherever.  Having one node do all the work lets that one
node do more learning of the network.

 don't worry, your node will automatically tell you when a newer version is
 available (by noticing new build numbers within the network)

This is not necessarily so.  99% of the time this works, but the most recent
node update (5090) was a full and clean network reset, meaning 5090 would talk
only to builds 5090 and above.  If you had a 5089 node, you'd never get the
notice about seeing a newer build.  This doesn't immediately matter to you,
Mike, I'm just commenting on the above statement.

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] anonymity(NOT)

2004-08-07 Thread evolution
Quoting Troed SĂ„ngberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On the other hand, I don't live in the Fascist states of America. (See
 link for explanation)

 http://troed.se/index.php?subaction=showcommentsid=1091214452

 http://troed.se - controversial views or common sense?

You do operate a flog, don't you?  Even just a mirror of troed.se?

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] Startup times

2004-08-07 Thread evolution
Quoting somebody who's not really Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Please excuse me for 'borrowing' the email addy, I like to post anon, if
 there is an acceptable means to post to this list anonymously (via
 remailers) please advise and I will change tactics.

Could you please at least state, at the beginning of the email, that you're not
really Toad?  The identity of the author changes the meaning of the message
considerably.

Maybe just a:
NOTE: I'm not really Toad, I'm Anonymous.

Or put your above quoted paragraph at the beginning of the email, instead of the
end.

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] new stable

2004-07-25 Thread evolution
Quoting Newsbyte [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Tried it out, and thusfar...it's crap.

This is perhaps inappropriate for the support mailing list?

-todd

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[freenet-support] Freenethelp.org Down

2004-07-18 Thread evolution
It appears that freenethelp.org is dysfunctional at the moment.  Is there
something to be done to help, Newsbyte?  Anybody else know what the matter is?

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet Project health

2004-07-15 Thread evolution
Quoting Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Okay, you'll never get acceptable performance. Tough.

Yeah!  Get a proper operating system use schedule.

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] RE: start-problems

2004-07-10 Thread evolution
Quoting Garb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I too am running Freenet from Gentoo (kernel 2.6.7),

I too!

 my initial joy over finding it in the portage tree and thus being able to
 simply emerge it was quicly cooled by the fact, that the configuration E-build
 appears broken.

Wow.  I had the opposite experience.  I've run from a manual install for the
longest time.  But here about two weeks ago I installed from Portage, and I was
amazed at how well it handled the install.  I especially liked the pre-made
init script.  I didn't have any problems with the configuration.

Clever idea, transferring freenet.ini to freenet.conf.  How did you know to
change the paths to /var/freenet and so on?

 Rc-update add freenet default

With a lower-case 'r', of course.

Overall, I'm very happy with the Portage installation of Freenet.

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] Interesting news posting in alt.internet.p2p

2004-07-05 Thread evolution
Quoting Paul Derbyshire [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 http://groups.google.com/groups?q=freetellahl=enlr=ie=UTF-
 8c2coff=1safe=offselm=Xns951A1E8DA9B51neo1061hotmailcom%4066.185.95
 .104rnum=2

 It's a very, very, very bloody long posting

As is yours!  Yikes.  You might do better to post this kind of thing to [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] 
The average p2p- and freenet-literacy is higher there, I think, since that's
what the list was set up for.

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] RE: trouble getting any information

2004-06-28 Thread evolution
 I am running Win XP with IE and Zonealarm Pro (active and switched off, no
 difference).

Please don't use IE with Freenet.  You don't want to compromise your anonymity,
whether you now feel you need it or not.

As for the problem you describe, it may be that you just need to keep running
Freenet.  When I've gotten those messages (and everything should have been
okay) I've noticed that they just go away after a while.  A small possibility
is that everything *is* running okay, but your node doesn't know about enough
other nodes yet, and the few it does know about maybe rejected your node's
advances because they were too busy at the moment.  Like a busy signal on the
telephone.

Remember also that Freenet, unlike other peer to peer networks, doesn't offer
the convenience of turning it on only when you want.  For the node to work at
all well, it needs to integrate itself into the network.

When I started my last office job, I learned everyone's name and got on a
conversation-basis with them sometime before I actually was able to get in on
the rumor distribution chain.  It's roughly the same (in effect) with Freenet. 
Run it as much as possible until you can reliably retrieve a few sites.

On the other hand, maybe there's a config problem?  Maybe try re-seeding the
node, by running freenet-webinstall.exe again.

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] HOWTO start up FREENET automaticly with Runlevel Scripts??

2004-06-28 Thread evolution
 im a linux/unix newbie but want to install and have freenet started as a
 daemon at system-boot time. (Runlevel 3+5). i tried something but still
 failed yet to get it to work.

What OS and distro are you using?  Some kind of Unix?  Some kind of Linux?  If
Linux, which distro?  If you're running Gentoo (unlikely), then try installing
Freenet from 'emerge freenet' and run 'rc-update add freenet default'.

Really, without knowing your OS, there's not much help to be had.  If you're
feeling adventurous, you can check out my script below.  The start() function
is probably what you'll want to look at.  Notice the CLASSPATH variable.  You
need to have freenet.jar and freenet-ext.jar in there.

#!/sbin/runscript
# Gentoo freenet init.d-script
#
# This script requires the companion script start-freenet.sh to do it's
# job.  This script is needed to facilitate full logging of freenet.
#
# Also requires the /etc/conf.d/freenet file to be configured correctly.
#
# Gentoo Maintainer: Brandon Low [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Authors: Per Wigren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#  Brandon Low [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#

depend() {
need net
}

check_config() {
if [ -z ${FREENET_NICENESS} ] || [ -z ${JAVA_OPTIONS} ]; then
eerror Please set all options in /etc/conf.d/freenet
return 1
fi
if [ ! -f /etc/freenet.conf ]; then
eerror To configure freenet, please run:
eerror # ebuild
/usr/portage/net-p2p/freenet/freenet-[version].ebuild
return 1
fi
return 0
}

start() {
JAVA=$(java-config --java)
#Uncomment this next line if your JVM doesn't support NPTL and you're
using NPTL
#export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1

check_config || return 1

ebegin Starting Freenet now
if [ ! -f /usr/lib/freenet/freenet-ext.jar ]; then
 ewarn freenet-ext.jar not found.  It can be downloaded from
 ewarn http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/freenet-ext.jar;
 eend 1
 return 1
fi
if [ ! -f /var/freenet/seednodes.ref ]; then
 ewarn seednodes.ref not found, you can download some seeds
 ewarn from
http://hawk.freenetproject.org/~freenet4/seednodes.ref;
 eend 1
 return 1
fi

   
CLASSPATH=/usr/lib/freenet/freenet.jar:/usr/lib/freenet/freenet-ext.jar:$CLASSPATH

# if Sun JDK set -server option as suggested on mailing list
if [ ! -z `${JAVA} -help 21 | grep '[-]server'` ]; then
JAVA_ARGS=-server
else
JAVA_ARGS=
fi
JAVA_ARGS=${JAVA_ARGS} ${JAVA_OPTIONS}
ulimit -n 4096
# Had to change off of using start-stop-daemon to start it,
# because of suckage.  This allows us to log the stdout and
# stderr of freenet.
export JAVA JAVA_ARGS CLASSPATH
echo XX  /var/freenet/freenet.pid
nice -n ${FREENET_NICENESS} sudo -u freenet /usr/bin/start-freenet.sh \
 /var/freenet/freenet.pid
sleep 1
ps ax|grep ^ *$(cat /var/freenet/freenet.pid)  /dev/null
eend $?
}

stop() {
ebegin Stopping Freenet
start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --pidfile /var/freenet/freenet.pid
eend $?
}

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Re: [freenet-support] PROBLEM: clean install with XP :-(

2004-05-12 Thread evolution
Quoting iznogoud [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 i just install freenet (5078  freenet-java-webinstall.exe) ( on XP, firewall
 activated (i configured the port) .. And I'm a dyndns user so i fixed it in
 .ini

 I'M UNABLE TO DISPLAY ANY PAGE  :- (

How many times have you tried?  How long did you give it?  What is the message
you get?  There are two basic types of message: Data Not Found and Route Not
Found.  Route Not Found is bad if true, but sometimes they're not really true.
 Data Not Found is no problem.  If you're getting Data Not Found just keep
trying.

Open the gateway page, the main page, and then open all the links and let it sit
and try to load.  Your new Freenet node will take a while to integrate into the
rest of the network.  It sucks, but you just have to give it time.  If you left
it running continuously, I would give it a couple days to integrate fairly
well.  If you don't run it continuously, run it as much as possible.  Either
way, keep requesting pages.  The HTML given to you when you get a Data Not
Found message has a meta-refresh tag, so if you leave it sit there it'll
reload itself.  Let it do this.

The more stuff you request and re-request, the more integrated your node will
become.  The more integrated your node becomes, the quicker and more reliable
surfing Freenet will be.

-todd

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Re: [freenet-support] Blackdown

2004-01-11 Thread evolution
I run Gentoo/Blackdown, and I have no problems.

Sorry you didn't get a reply sooner.

-todd


Quoting John Huttley [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I am about to switch to gentoo/Blackdown 1.4.1
 
 Do we have any issues?
 
 Regards
 
 John

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