[freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

2008-09-30 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Wednesday 24 September 2008 16:56, gofer wrote:
>  On 2008-09-23 13:54, Matthew Toseland wrote:
>  > > 
>  > > Also, when Firefox (ver 3.02) comes up, there is no menu item 'Tools', 
so I 
>  > can't disable the cache or history. Can I change this somewhere?
>  > 
>  > They should already be disabled.
>  > > 
>  
>  Thanks for the reply, Matthew.
>  
>  Yes, the cache was, in fact, disabled? ...but history is not. All my recent 
Freenet browsing is there, along with 'recently closed tabs'. I occasionally 
select 'Show All History' from the 'History' menu, then select all and 
delete. But I would rather that history was disabled entirely. How do I do 
that?

This has recently been fixed. New copies of the installer will turn off 
history.
>  
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Re: [freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

2008-09-30 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Wednesday 24 September 2008 16:56, gofer wrote:
  On 2008-09-23 13:54, Matthew Toseland wrote:

Also, when Firefox (ver 3.02) comes up, there is no menu item 'Tools', 
so I 
   can't disable the cache or history. Can I change this somewhere?
   
   They should already be disabled.

  
  Thanks for the reply, Matthew.
  
  Yes, the cache was, in fact, disabled  ...but history is not. All my recent 
Freenet browsing is there, along with 'recently closed tabs'. I occasionally 
select 'Show All History' from the 'History' menu, then select all and 
delete. But I would rather that history was disabled entirely. How do I do 
that?

This has recently been fixed. New copies of the installer will turn off 
history.
  
  gofer


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[freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

2008-09-26 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Wednesday 24 September 2008 16:56, gofer wrote:
>  On 2008-09-23 13:54, Matthew Toseland wrote:
>  > > 
>  > > Also, when Firefox (ver 3.02) comes up, there is no menu item 'Tools', 
so I 
>  > can't disable the cache or history. Can I change this somewhere?
>  > 
>  > They should already be disabled.
>  > > 
>  
>  Thanks for the reply, Matthew.
>  
>  Yes, the cache was, in fact, disabled? ...but history is not. All my recent 
Freenet browsing is there, along with 'recently closed tabs'. I occasionally 
select 'Show All History' from the 'History' menu, then select all and 
delete. But I would rather that history was disabled entirely. How do I do 
that?

Filed bug for history not disabled:
https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=2644
>  
>  gofer
>  
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Re: [freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

2008-09-26 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Wednesday 24 September 2008 16:56, gofer wrote:
  On 2008-09-23 13:54, Matthew Toseland wrote:

Also, when Firefox (ver 3.02) comes up, there is no menu item 'Tools', 
so I 
   can't disable the cache or history. Can I change this somewhere?
   
   They should already be disabled.

  
  Thanks for the reply, Matthew.
  
  Yes, the cache was, in fact, disabled  ...but history is not. All my recent 
Freenet browsing is there, along with 'recently closed tabs'. I occasionally 
select 'Show All History' from the 'History' menu, then select all and 
delete. But I would rather that history was disabled entirely. How do I do 
that?

Filed bug for history not disabled:
https://bugs.freenetproject.org/view.php?id=2644
  
  gofer
  
   


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[freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

2008-09-24 Thread Edward Langenback
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gofer wrote:
> On 2008-09-23 13:54, Matthew Toseland wrote:
>> >
>> > Also, when Firefox (ver 3.02) comes up, there is no menu item
> 'Tools', so I
>> can't disable the cache or history. Can I change this somewhere?
>>
>> They should already be disabled.
>> >
> 
> Thanks for the reply, Matthew.
> 
> Yes, the cache was, in fact, disabled  ...but history is not. All my
> recent Freenet browsing is there, along with 'recently closed tabs'. I
> occasionally select 'Show All History' from the 'History' menu, then
> select all and delete. But I would rather that history was disabled
> entirely. How do I do that?
> 
> gofer
> 
> 

I appreciate the idea that a secure profile is provided for freenet
browsing but I don't get why various menu options have been disabled.

Thus my question remains:

Why have they been disabled and how can I turn the FULL toolbar back on?

Even if I don't plan to mess with any settings, I at least would like to
be able to see them without having to decipher about:config and prefs.js


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[freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

2008-09-24 Thread Luke771
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:56:23 +0100
Matthew Toseland  wrote:

> There is no difference. But the stats on the homepage are *low level* 
> inserts, 
> being passed through your node. On the downloads/uploads page, we are talking 
> about high level inserts originated by you.

OK, disregard my previous message, I finally realized the sense of Toad's 
answer. I had added that  'insert' vs. 'upload' distintion that I had made up.

The UL/DL page is only abouot insert (or uploads) originated by you, while the 
stats page is about inserts (or uploads) that your node uploads, no matter who 
originate them, but calling the former 'inserts' and the latter 'uploads' is 
bogus. (it is right now, but it could be an idea)

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[freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

2008-09-24 Thread Luke771
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:56:23 +0100
Matthew Toseland  wrote:

>> . I 'think' I have understood 
>> some concepts but don't take my word for revealed truth. At least not until 
>> someone more competent confirms what I say (or calls it BS).
> 
> And most of it is. :)
> 
> There is no difference. But the stats on the homepage are *low level* 
> inserts, 
> being passed through your node. On the downloads/uploads page, we are talking 
> about high level inserts originated by you.

Well that's pretty much what I said, so why BS?

Look, you say two opposite things in that last sentence:
1 - there is no difference, and
2 - insert originate by you, upload go through your PC (some of them may be 
originate by you?)
I was saying #2 without #1.



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Re: [freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

2008-09-24 Thread gofer




On 2008-09-23 13:54, Matthew Toseland wrote:
  
  Also, when Firefox (ver 3.02) comes up, there is no menu item
'Tools', so I 
 can't disable the cache or history. Can I change this somewhere?
 
 They should already be disabled.
  

Thanks for the reply, Matthew.

Yes, the cache was, in fact, disabled ...but history is not. All my
recent Freenet browsing is there, along with 'recently closed tabs'. I
occasionally select 'Show All History' from the 'History' menu, then
select all and delete. But I would rather that history was disabled
entirely. How do I do that?

gofer



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Re: [freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

2008-09-24 Thread Edward Langenback
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gofer wrote:
 On 2008-09-23 13:54, Matthew Toseland wrote:
 
  Also, when Firefox (ver 3.02) comes up, there is no menu item
 'Tools', so I
 can't disable the cache or history. Can I change this somewhere?

 They should already be disabled.
 
 
 Thanks for the reply, Matthew.
 
 Yes, the cache was, in fact, disabled  ...but history is not. All my
 recent Freenet browsing is there, along with 'recently closed tabs'. I
 occasionally select 'Show All History' from the 'History' menu, then
 select all and delete. But I would rather that history was disabled
 entirely. How do I do that?
 
 gofer
 
 

I appreciate the idea that a secure profile is provided for freenet
browsing but I don't get why various menu options have been disabled.

Thus my question remains:

Why have they been disabled and how can I turn the FULL toolbar back on?

Even if I don't plan to mess with any settings, I at least would like to
be able to see them without having to decipher about:config and prefs.js


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[freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

2008-09-23 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tuesday 23 September 2008 05:29, Luke771 wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:56:13 -0700
> gofer  wrote:
> 
> > My terminology was wrong: I should have said 'inserts', not 'uploads'. 
> 
> for the most part we use the two terms interchangeably
> 
> >Under 'Current Activity' I see 'Inserts', 'Requests', and 'Transferring 
Requests'.
> 
> Ah, that's what you meant?
> I thought you were talking about the upload/download (formerly 'queue') page
> If you were talking about the Current Activity page, you can disregard my 
answer to the other thread you initiated.
> 
> >I know that other nodes send requests, and that chunks of files are then 
sent to those nodes, but I thought I had to initiate an 'Insert'.
> 
> Yes you have to initiate an insert. That's when you choose a file from your 
box and upload it to the freenet distributed storage. That's an insert, which 
we often refer to as an upload.
> 
> > So, is an 'insert' and an 'upload' the same thing?
> 
> Even tho we often refer to insertions as 'uploads' that's not really the 
same thing. Techincally, an upload is something from your datastore 
(therefore already inserted into freenet) that's being transferred from your 
node to another. That's an upload. Content already on freenet.
> 
> An insert on the other hand, is a file that you have on your box and you 
wish to make available on freenet, so you 'insert' it. This is often referred 
to as 'uploading' to freenet, it may sound kind of of confusing but most of 
the times when we say 'uploading' but mean 'inserting', the real meaning is 
self-evident from the contest (if not, just ask)
> 
> > 
> > Also, would any files being inserted come from the cache? Or are any other 
folders on my computer 'shared'?
> 
> Uploaded can come to cache. A file that's traveling to node A to node D 
through nodes B and C, is copied into the cache of all the boxes along the 
way (B and C). But an upload can also come from your store, when the files 
(or encrypted chunks) that are being trasnmitted are found in your store 
rather than using your node as a transit point along a route.
>  
> 
> NOTE: Everything in this post may be bullshit. I can't code and I don't 
really understand Freenet, I can only use it. I 'think' I have understood 
some concepts but don't take my word for revealed truth. At least not until 
someone more competent confirms what I say (or calls it BS).

And most of it is. :)

There is no difference. But the stats on the homepage are *low level* inserts, 
being passed through your node. On the downloads/uploads page, we are talking 
about high level inserts originated by you.
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[freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

2008-09-23 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sunday 21 September 2008 03:16, Art Charbonneau wrote:
> On my freenet homepage I noticed in the stats that 5 uploads were active 
even though I had not initiated any uploads. Is this normal, or is something 
amiss?
>  
>  Also, when Firefox (ver 3.02) comes up, there is no menu item 'Tools', so I 
can't disable the cache or history. Can I change this somewhere?

They should already be disabled.
>  
>  Running version 0.7, latest build, and Vista.
>  
>  Thanks
>  Gofer
>  
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[freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

2008-09-23 Thread Luke771
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:56:13 -0700
gofer  wrote:

> My terminology was wrong: I should have said 'inserts', not 'uploads'. 

for the most part we use the two terms interchangeably

>Under 'Current Activity' I see 'Inserts', 'Requests', and 'Transferring 
>Requests'.

Ah, that's what you meant?
I thought you were talking about the upload/download (formerly 'queue') page
If you were talking about the Current Activity page, you can disregard my 
answer to the other thread you initiated.

>I know that other nodes send requests, and that chunks of files are then sent 
>to those nodes, but I thought I had to initiate an 'Insert'.

Yes you have to initiate an insert. That's when you choose a file from your box 
and upload it to the freenet distributed storage. That's an insert, which we 
often refer to as an upload.

> So, is an 'insert' and an 'upload' the same thing?

Even tho we often refer to insertions as 'uploads' that's not really the same 
thing. Techincally, an upload is something from your datastore (therefore 
already inserted into freenet) that's being transferred from your node to 
another. That's an upload. Content already on freenet.

An insert on the other hand, is a file that you have on your box and you wish 
to make available on freenet, so you 'insert' it. This is often referred to as 
'uploading' to freenet, it may sound kind of of confusing but most of the times 
when we say 'uploading' but mean 'inserting', the real meaning is self-evident 
from the contest (if not, just ask)

> 
> Also, would any files being inserted come from the cache? Or are any other 
> folders on my computer 'shared'?

Uploaded can come to cache. A file that's traveling to node A to node D through 
nodes B and C, is copied into the cache of all the boxes along the way (B and 
C). But an upload can also come from your store, when the files (or encrypted 
chunks) that are being trasnmitted are found in your store rather than using 
your node as a transit point along a route.


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[freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

2008-09-23 Thread Luke771
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:05:35 -0400
urza9814 at gmail.com wrote:

>On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Art Charbonneau wrote:
>>  On my freenet homepage I noticed in the stats that 5 uploads were active
>> even though I had not initiated any uploads. Is this normal, or is something
>> amiss?


> Yes, that is normal. People are downloading files from you. That's how
> Freenet works.


No it's not. I've been using freenet for years and I never heard about other 
people'd download showing up as uploads in your freenet page (why should they? 
They're not downloading from you as they would on say eMule)

If those uploades are queued, somebody or something added them to the queue. 
What probably happened is that the uploads were initiated in Thaw or Frost.



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[freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

2008-09-23 Thread Luke771
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 19:16:19 -0700
Art Charbonneau  wrote:

> On my freenet homepage I noticed in the stats that 5 uploads were active even 
> though I had not initiated any uploads. Is this normal, or is something amiss?

You sure you didnt start the uploads from another app, like Thaw?

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Re: [freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

2008-09-23 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sunday 21 September 2008 03:16, Art Charbonneau wrote:
 On my freenet homepage I noticed in the stats that 5 uploads were active 
even though I had not initiated any uploads. Is this normal, or is something 
amiss?
  
  Also, when Firefox (ver 3.02) comes up, there is no menu item 'Tools', so I 
can't disable the cache or history. Can I change this somewhere?

They should already be disabled.
  
  Running version 0.7, latest build, and Vista.
  
  Thanks
  Gofer
  



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Re: [freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

2008-09-23 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tuesday 23 September 2008 05:29, Luke771 wrote:
 On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:56:13 -0700
 gofer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  My terminology was wrong: I should have said 'inserts', not 'uploads'. 
 
 for the most part we use the two terms interchangeably
 
 Under 'Current Activity' I see 'Inserts', 'Requests', and 'Transferring 
Requests'.
 
 Ah, that's what you meant?
 I thought you were talking about the upload/download (formerly 'queue') page
 If you were talking about the Current Activity page, you can disregard my 
answer to the other thread you initiated.
 
 I know that other nodes send requests, and that chunks of files are then 
sent to those nodes, but I thought I had to initiate an 'Insert'.
 
 Yes you have to initiate an insert. That's when you choose a file from your 
box and upload it to the freenet distributed storage. That's an insert, which 
we often refer to as an upload.
 
  So, is an 'insert' and an 'upload' the same thing?
 
 Even tho we often refer to insertions as 'uploads' that's not really the 
same thing. Techincally, an upload is something from your datastore 
(therefore already inserted into freenet) that's being transferred from your 
node to another. That's an upload. Content already on freenet.
 
 An insert on the other hand, is a file that you have on your box and you 
wish to make available on freenet, so you 'insert' it. This is often referred 
to as 'uploading' to freenet, it may sound kind of of confusing but most of 
the times when we say 'uploading' but mean 'inserting', the real meaning is 
self-evident from the contest (if not, just ask)
 
  
  Also, would any files being inserted come from the cache? Or are any other 
folders on my computer 'shared'?
 
 Uploaded can come to cache. A file that's traveling to node A to node D 
through nodes B and C, is copied into the cache of all the boxes along the 
way (B and C). But an upload can also come from your store, when the files 
(or encrypted chunks) that are being trasnmitted are found in your store 
rather than using your node as a transit point along a route.
  
 
 NOTE: Everything in this post may be bullshit. I can't code and I don't 
really understand Freenet, I can only use it. I 'think' I have understood 
some concepts but don't take my word for revealed truth. At least not until 
someone more competent confirms what I say (or calls it BS).

And most of it is. :)

There is no difference. But the stats on the homepage are *low level* inserts, 
being passed through your node. On the downloads/uploads page, we are talking 
about high level inserts originated by you.


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Re: [freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

2008-09-23 Thread Luke771
On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:56:23 +0100
Matthew Toseland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 There is no difference. But the stats on the homepage are *low level* 
 inserts, 
 being passed through your node. On the downloads/uploads page, we are talking 
 about high level inserts originated by you.

OK, disregard my previous message, I finally realized the sense of Toad's 
answer. I had added that  'insert' vs. 'upload' distintion that I had made up.

The UL/DL page is only abouot insert (or uploads) originated by you, while the 
stats page is about inserts (or uploads) that your node uploads, no matter who 
originate them, but calling the former 'inserts' and the latter 'uploads' is 
bogus. (it is right now, but it could be an idea)

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[freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

2008-09-22 Thread Edward Langenback
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> Yes, that is normal. People are downloading files from you. That's how
> Freenet works.
> 
> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Art Charbonneau  > wrote:
> 

snip

> Also, when Firefox (ver 3.02) comes up, there is no menu item
> 'Tools', so I can't disable the cache or history. Can I change this
> somewhere?

I've also noticed a lack of, among other things, the tools menu on the
0.7 firefox profile.  Why has that been disabled and how can I turn the
FULL toolbar back on?


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[freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

2008-09-22 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
Yes, that is normal. People are downloading files from you. That's how
Freenet works.

On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Art Charbonneau wrote:

>  On my freenet homepage I noticed in the stats that 5 uploads were active
> even though I had not initiated any uploads. Is this normal, or is something
> amiss?
>
> Also, when Firefox (ver 3.02) comes up, there is no menu item 'Tools', so I
> can't disable the cache or history. Can I change this somewhere?
>
> Running version 0.7, latest build, and Vista.
>
> Thanks
> Gofer
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Re: [freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

2008-09-22 Thread gofer




Thanks, urza9814. My terminology was wrong:
I should have said 'inserts', not 'uploads'. Under 'Current Activity' I
see 'Inserts', 'Requests', and 'Transferring Requests'. I know that
other nodes send requests, and that chunks of files are then sent to
those nodes, but I thought I had to initiate an 'Insert'. So, is an
'insert' and an 'upload' the same thing?

Also, would any files being inserted come from the cache? Or are any
other folders on my computer 'shared'?

Again, thanks for the fast response.

Gofer

On 2008-09-22 21:05, urza9814 wrote:
 Yes, that is normal. People are downloading files from you. That's
how
 Freenet works.
 
 On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Art Charbonneau wrote:
 
  On my freenet homepage I noticed in the stats that 5 uploads
were active
  even though I had not initiated any uploads. Is this normal,
or is something
  amiss?
 
  Also, when Firefox (ver 3.02) comes up, there is no menu item
'Tools', so I
  can't disable the cache or history. Can I change this
somewhere?
 
  Running version 0.7, latest build, and Vista.
 
  Thanks
  Gofer
 
 
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Re: [freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

2008-09-22 Thread Edward Langenback
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Re: [freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

2008-09-22 Thread Luke771
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 17:05:35 -0400
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On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Art Charbonneau [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
  On my freenet homepage I noticed in the stats that 5 uploads were active
 even though I had not initiated any uploads. Is this normal, or is something
 amiss?


 Yes, that is normal. People are downloading files from you. That's how
 Freenet works.


No it's not. I've been using freenet for years and I never heard about other 
people'd download showing up as uploads in your freenet page (why should they? 
They're not downloading from you as they would on say eMule)

If those uploades are queued, somebody or something added them to the queue. 
What probably happened is that the uploads were initiated in Thaw or Frost.



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Re: [freenet-support] Unauthorized upload?

2008-09-22 Thread Luke771
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:56:13 -0700
gofer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My terminology was wrong: I should have said 'inserts', not 'uploads'. 

for the most part we use the two terms interchangeably

Under 'Current Activity' I see 'Inserts', 'Requests', and 'Transferring 
Requests'.

Ah, that's what you meant?
I thought you were talking about the upload/download (formerly 'queue') page
If you were talking about the Current Activity page, you can disregard my 
answer to the other thread you initiated.

I know that other nodes send requests, and that chunks of files are then sent 
to those nodes, but I thought I had to initiate an 'Insert'.

Yes you have to initiate an insert. That's when you choose a file from your box 
and upload it to the freenet distributed storage. That's an insert, which we 
often refer to as an upload.

 So, is an 'insert' and an 'upload' the same thing?

Even tho we often refer to insertions as 'uploads' that's not really the same 
thing. Techincally, an upload is something from your datastore (therefore 
already inserted into freenet) that's being transferred from your node to 
another. That's an upload. Content already on freenet.

An insert on the other hand, is a file that you have on your box and you wish 
to make available on freenet, so you 'insert' it. This is often referred to as 
'uploading' to freenet, it may sound kind of of confusing but most of the times 
when we say 'uploading' but mean 'inserting', the real meaning is self-evident 
from the contest (if not, just ask)

 
 Also, would any files being inserted come from the cache? Or are any other 
 folders on my computer 'shared'?

Uploaded can come to cache. A file that's traveling to node A to node D through 
nodes B and C, is copied into the cache of all the boxes along the way (B and 
C). But an upload can also come from your store, when the files (or encrypted 
chunks) that are being trasnmitted are found in your store rather than using 
your node as a transit point along a route.
 

NOTE: Everything in this post may be bullshit. I can't code and I don't really 
understand Freenet, I can only use it. I 'think' I have understood some 
concepts but don't take my word for revealed truth. At least not until someone 
more competent confirms what I say (or calls it BS).


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