[freenet-support] slowdom in freeville

2004-03-10 Thread miguel
duh, guys, I'm a newbie +- so I can only make observations so here:
(note: order does not indicate weight nor priority)
1. Get a female to work on this thing.
2. At least run permanent node.
3. DSL ain't no faster when it hits the freenet bogs.
4. The last 3 or 4+ builds have gotten slower and dumber.
5. The updates and re-seeds seem to be distancing us from the majority
of the  data-holding nodes out there that are not updating often enough
(or not updating at all)
6. As per performance: Your OS shouldn't matter(though the L is king
(-;), your cpu and ram will virtually max-out to whatever you've got
available, and then some, and pulling your pants down off firewall just
means people will get offended at such a sight but it won't help your
node. And store size? Don't make no difference either.
7.The java threads are inconstant. I now have to restart several 
times a day and after killing all threads the restart can spawn 
anywhere from 1 to 20+ threads depending on the random seed of the
moment.
8.I'd say if all data were stored and retained by freenet from one
build to the next the performance would be outstanding(compared to 
now)and, programmer dudes, put a tighter leash on that Java bulldog.
 
Because of recent performance declines I have been severely tempted 
to drop freenet but I refuse because it'll be one of the last freedoms 
that the fascists kill and I want to be there to watch it die.
I offer my machine to run whatever service I can to make this thing 
work better for all of us.  Any takers?

signed: Whatever(aka Whoever)

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Re: [freenet-support] slowdom in freeville

2004-03-10 Thread Toad
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 04:02:35AM -0800, miguel wrote:
 duh, guys, I'm a newbie +- so I can only make observations so here:
 (note: order does not indicate weight nor priority)
 1. Get a female to work on this thing.
 2. At least run permanent node.
 3. DSL ain't no faster when it hits the freenet bogs.

DSL has a chance of running a permanent node. Dialup doesn't, unless
it's unmetered dialup, and even then it's not going to get many requests
once the connected nodes realize it's dialup.

 4. The last 3 or 4+ builds have gotten slower and dumber.

Why thank you for that informative, empirically backed and helpful bug
report.

 5. The updates and re-seeds seem to be distancing us from the majority
 of the  data-holding nodes out there that are not updating often enough
 (or not updating at all)

Updates and reseeds?

 6. As per performance: Your OS shouldn't matter(though the L is king
 (-;), your cpu and ram will virtually max-out to whatever you've got
 available, and then some, 

The major memory leaks were fixed. If it is still leaking in the current
stable build, that is a bug, please report it.

 and pulling your pants down off firewall just
 means people will get offended at such a sight but it won't help your
 node. And store size? Don't make no difference either.

That's not what I've heard from others.

 7.The java threads are inconstant. I now have to restart several 
 times a day and after killing all threads the restart can spawn 
 anywhere from 1 to 20+ threads depending on the random seed of the
 moment.

20+?! 20 is NOTHING! The default thread limit is 120.

 8.I'd say if all data were stored and retained by freenet from one
 build to the next the performance would be outstanding(compared to 
 now)and, programmer dudes, put a tighter leash on that Java bulldog.

Uhm. Firstly, it's not possible for freenet to retain all data. The only
way to do it would be to refuse any new data inserts. Secondly, just
because it's there somewhere doesn't mean we can find it - that is the
hard part.
  
 Because of recent performance declines I have been severely tempted 
 to drop freenet but I refuse because it'll be one of the last freedoms 
 that the fascists kill and I want to be there to watch it die.
 I offer my machine to run whatever service I can to make this thing 
 work better for all of us.  Any takers?
 
 signed: Whatever(aka Whoever)
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Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/
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Re: [freenet-support] slowdom in freeville

2004-03-10 Thread Troed Sngberg
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 12:37:34 +, Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

4. The last 3 or 4+ builds have gotten slower and dumber.
Why thank you for that informative, empirically backed and helpful bug
report.
My experience is the opposite of his, but I guess you know that the last  
stable builds have been really good already ..

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Re: [freenet-support] slowdom in freeville

2004-03-10 Thread Toad
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 02:21:19PM +0100, Troed S?ngberg wrote:
 On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 12:37:34 +, Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 4. The last 3 or 4+ builds have gotten slower and dumber.
 
 Why thank you for that informative, empirically backed and helpful bug
 report.
 
 My experience is the opposite of his, but I guess you know that the last  
 stable builds have been really good already ..

They have? In what sense? All I hear are complaints... and I usually run
unstable, because it's what gets hacked on mostly...
 
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Re: [freenet-support] slowdom in freeville

2004-03-10 Thread Troed Sngberg
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:44:08 +, Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

They have? In what sense? All I hear are complaints... and I usually run
unstable, because it's what gets hacked on mostly...
The huge memory leak is fixed, and transfer speeds has gone up :)  
Regarding RNFs .. well, maybe - I haven't done extensive browsing since  
the last version. I'll do that this evening and report the results, but I  
have had no problems at all inserting 30-40Mb with ok speeds recently  
with FUQID, as an example.

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Re: [freenet-support] slowdom in freeville

2004-03-10 Thread Christopher Brian Jack


On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Toad wrote:

[ranty stuff edited out]
  My experience is the opposite of his, but I guess you know that the last
  stable builds have been really good already ..

 They have? In what sense? All I hear are complaints... and I usually run
 unstable, because it's what gets hacked on mostly...

One thing I am liking about Freenet being implemented in Java is that I
can just plot in the .JAR file and get on with my life on an imporved
FreeNet without spending an hour building stuff.  And hooboy did it spend
a long time building to make the system able to run freenet.  Download
this here, that there (actually it was all from sun's site - I want to
shoot their lawyers in a place that would relieve them of their manhood)
put it all in /usr/ports/distfile and start a biuild that would be full of
fireworks and surprises took about 2+ hours on my poor celery 450 FreeBSD
box.  It isn't loading the system too badly (I hope)...
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