Migration path, please! (Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7

2006-08-25 Thread fwolf...@aol.com
Juiceman wrote: >With 10 connections, the data that could intercepted by one attacker >is roughly 10%. The problem is the attacker doesn't know how many >connections you have, so you could just be passing on data from any >number of connections you have. It's currently trivialy easy to find out

Re: Migration path, please! (Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7

2006-08-25 Thread fwolff33
Juiceman wrote: With 10 connections, the data that could intercepted by one attacker is roughly 10%. The problem is the attacker doesn't know how many connections you have, so you could just be passing on data from any number of connections you have. It's currently trivialy easy to

Migration path, please! (Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7

2006-08-24 Thread Juiceman
On 8/24/06, urza9814 at gmail.com wrote: > opennets are only bad in certain circumstances. The USA is not yet one > of them. With a darknet, it may be harder to get into the network, but > once your in it's a LOT easier to identify who is sharing and > inserting what files. So it could be argued

Migration path, please! (Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7

2006-08-24 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
opennets are only bad in certain circumstances. The USA is not yet one of them. With a darknet, it may be harder to get into the network, but once your in it's a LOT easier to identify who is sharing and inserting what files. So it could be argued that a darknet is much riskier than an opennet. In

Migration path, please! (Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7

2006-08-24 Thread diddle...@hotmail.com
So by running 0.7 in default mode I'm running in darknet? Or is there another piece of the freenet puzzle I need to discover? >From: "Evan Daniel" >Reply-To: evand at pobox.com, support at freenetproject.org >To: "diddler4u at hotmail.com" >CC: support at freenetproject.org >Subject: Re:

Migration path, please! (Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7

2006-08-24 Thread diddle...@hotmail.com
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Migration path, please! (Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7

2006-08-24 Thread urza9...@gmail.com
0.7 is currently darknet only. 0.5 is opennet only. On 8/24/06, diddler4u at hotmail.com wrote: > So by running 0.7 in default mode I'm running in darknet? Or is there > another piece of the freenet puzzle I need to discover? > > > >From: "Evan Daniel" > >Reply-To: evand at pobox.com, support

Migration path, please! (Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7

2006-08-24 Thread Evan Daniel
On 8/24/06, diddler4u at hotmail.com wrote: > Evan, > > Would you define this statement? "they're (developers) working against a > very real > clock." Happily. At some point, running Freenet will (likely) become illegal, assuming current trends continue. This includes in the West. It may

Migration path, please! (Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7

2006-08-24 Thread Evan Daniel
On 24 Aug 2006 10:46:58 -0400, Rowland wrote: > A me-too and a summary of the discussion thus far as I see it: > > 1. Breaking backward compatibility is a bad thing. > 2. Saying you won't ever do it again is small comfort. > 3. Providing a migration path would help a lot. > 4. I don't care about

Re: Migration path, please! (Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7

2006-08-24 Thread Evan Daniel
On 24 Aug 2006 10:46:58 -0400, Rowland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A me-too and a summary of the discussion thus far as I see it: 1. Breaking backward compatibility is a bad thing. 2. Saying you won't ever do it again is small comfort. 3. Providing a migration path would help a lot. 4. I don't

Re: Migration path, please! (Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7

2006-08-24 Thread diddler4u
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Re: Migration path, please! (Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7

2006-08-24 Thread Evan Daniel
On 8/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Evan, Would you define this statement? they're (developers) working against a very real clock. Happily. At some point, running Freenet will (likely) become illegal, assuming current trends continue. This includes in the West. It may

Re: Migration path, please! (Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7

2006-08-24 Thread diddler4u
So by running 0.7 in default mode I'm running in darknet? Or is there another piece of the freenet puzzle I need to discover? From: Evan Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], support@freenetproject.org To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: support@freenetproject.org

Re: Migration path, please! (Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7

2006-08-24 Thread Juiceman
On 8/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So by running 0.7 in default mode I'm running in darknet? Or is there another piece of the freenet puzzle I need to discover? It is a darknet because unless you give out your ref to someone (like currently on IRC but that will change

Re: Migration path, please! (Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7

2006-08-24 Thread urza9814
opennets are only bad in certain circumstances. The USA is not yet one of them. With a darknet, it may be harder to get into the network, but once your in it's a LOT easier to identify who is sharing and inserting what files. So it could be argued that a darknet is much riskier than an opennet.

Re: Migration path, please! (Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0, 5 and 0, 7

2006-08-24 Thread Juiceman
On 8/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: opennets are only bad in certain circumstances. The USA is not yet one of them. With a darknet, it may be harder to get into the network, but once your in it's a LOT easier to identify who is sharing and inserting what files. So it could be