Re: [freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated

2009-11-15 Thread Ichi
On Sunday, November 15, 2009, 2:17:12 AM, Luke771 wrote: Matthew Toseland wrote: On Monday 09 November 2009 19:41:27 Ichi wrote: First, I appreciate that Matthew had to ban Toni. Open discussion of Freenet documents is just plain stupid, for obvious reasons. Second, I'm sure that

Re: [freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated

2009-11-14 Thread Luke771
Matthew Toseland wrote: On Monday 09 November 2009 19:41:27 Ichi wrote: First, I appreciate that Matthew had to ban Toni. Open discussion of Freenet documents is just plain stupid, for obvious reasons. Second, I'm sure that Freenet and this list are already illegal in many countries. If

Re: [freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated

2009-11-12 Thread Jonas Islander
Ichi wrote: First, I appreciate that Matthew had to ban Toni. Open discussion of Freenet documents is just plain stupid, for obvious reasons. Second, I'm sure that Freenet and this list are already illegal in many countries. If Freenet ever becomes popular, it will undoubtedly become

Re: [freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated

2009-11-12 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Thursday 12 November 2009 14:04:08 Jonas Islander wrote: Ichi wrote: First, I appreciate that Matthew had to ban Toni. Open discussion of Freenet documents is just plain stupid, for obvious reasons. Second, I'm sure that Freenet and this list are already illegal in many countries.

Re: [freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated

2009-11-12 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tuesday 10 November 2009 06:42:02 mih...@riseup.net wrote: I'd also ask why it is physically based in the UK Freenet is not based in the UK. I am based in the UK. which is undoubtedly the western country most repressive of internet use. Definitely not true. A number of european

Re: [freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated

2009-11-09 Thread bimbek
Oh, with all the respect Matthew Toseland, you did not need to ban the poor guy. I hope that one day you will not ban all of us just because some US court would say that using freenet is illegal... ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org

Re: [freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated

2009-11-09 Thread VolodyA! V Anarhist
bimbek пишет: Oh, with all the respect Matthew Toseland, you did not need to ban the poor guy. I hope that one day you will not ban all of us just because some US court would say that using freenet is illegal... Actually somebody will (whether or not it will be Matthew Toseland or not i

Re: [freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated

2009-11-09 Thread urza9814
...why would this mailing list have to shut down if Freenet was deemed illegal? Just because you can't run the software doesn't mean you can't talk about it. We (supposedly) have freedom of speech here in the US - I mean, murder is illegal, but you can still _talk_ about murder. Hell you can even

Re: [freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated

2009-11-09 Thread Dsoslglece
VolodyA! V Anarhist a écrit : bimbek пишет: Oh, with all the respect Matthew Toseland, you did not need to ban the poor guy. I hope that one day you will not ban all of us just because some US court would say that using freenet is illegal... Actually somebody will (whether or not

Re: [freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated

2009-11-09 Thread VolodyA! V Anarhist
urza9...@gmail.com пишет: ...why would this mailing list have to shut down if Freenet was deemed illegal? Just because you can't run the software doesn't mean you can't talk about it. We (supposedly) have freedom of speech here in the US - I mean, murder is illegal, but you can still _talk_

Re: [freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated

2009-11-09 Thread Artefact2
We'll talk in Freetalk/FMS then :) On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:27 PM, VolodyA! V Anarhist volo...@whengendarmesleeps.org wrote: urza9...@gmail.com пишет: ...why would this mailing list have to shut down if Freenet was deemed illegal? Just because you can't run the software doesn't mean you

Re: [freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated

2009-11-09 Thread urza9814
Meh, it's no different from what television and movie producers do on a daily basis... On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:27 PM, VolodyA! V Anarhist volo...@whengendarmesleeps.org wrote: urza9...@gmail.com пишет: ...why would this mailing list have to shut down if Freenet was deemed illegal? Just

Re: [freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated

2009-11-09 Thread Ichi
First, I appreciate that Matthew had to ban Toni. Open discussion of Freenet documents is just plain stupid, for obvious reasons. Second, I'm sure that Freenet and this list are already illegal in many countries. If Freenet ever becomes popular, it will undoubtedly become illegal everywhere,

Re: [freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated

2009-11-09 Thread mihail
I'd also ask why it is physically based in the UK which is undoubtedly the western country most repressive of internet use. Only yesterday the 'interception modernatization programme' which would attempt to record all emails was dropped for 'tecnhical' reasons:

[freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated

2009-11-07 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Sunday 18 October 2009 11:24:08 Toni Bergman wrote: ... I present you with my graph. I'm downloading music from freenet. Thanks for your detailed bug report. However, based on your graph, which contains clear evidence of copyright infringement (there *is* legal music on Freenet, but the

Re: [freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated

2009-11-07 Thread urza9814
Wow, that's a bit...extreme. I mean there's a _huge_ difference between refusing to give someone support, which may or may not be legal, and completely banning them. I mean just because _you_ can't help him doesn't mean nobody else on this list can. Way to alienate a rather significant percentage

Re: [freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated

2009-11-07 Thread Mike Cook
Welcome to the USA. You need to be very careful these days in regard to any discussion of file sharing. There are many legal pitfalls and many with deep pockets just looking for an opportunity to sue. Like it or not email lists are not a place to discuss illegal activities whether you agree

Re: [freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated

2009-11-07 Thread urza9814
Hah, I don't really need a welcome, I've been here my whole life :) And he wasn't using the email list to discuss illegal activities, he was using the email list to get support for Freenet - exactly what it is here for. On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Mike Cook mikec...@pipeline.com wrote:

Re: [freenet-support] Piracy will not be tolerated

2009-11-07 Thread Mike Cook
Sorry, I was just trying to point out that some consider any mention of sharing copyrighted material, however fleeting, as proof positive that the whole purpose of the development of a technology is to steal their intellectual property . Personally I think the whole notion of copyright has