[freenet-support] Using Freenet for Small Sister

[Matthew Toseland]

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http://wiki.freenetproject.org/FreenetFCPSpec2Point0

On Sunday 06 July 2008 13:54, Brenno J.S.A.A.F. de Winter, wgasa wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> My name is Brenno de Winter and I started the Small Sister Project
> (http://www.smallsister.org/) a couple of months ago. We're focussing on
> data retention right now, but will build a more comprehensive privacy
> solution for people (open source obviously). I'm currently looking at
> Freenet as the ideal means to store messages (since after some time
> files automatically fall off the network and that is exactly what I need).
> 
> There are two questions that I'm struggeling with and the answers aren't
> to obvious to me:
> 1. Can I search the net for messages (for instance smallsis.PGPKEYID.*)
> so that the correct client can retrieve the messages of the network for
> them selves if they are new. Is this possible at all (through an index
> or a certain way of storing it?);
> 2. Is there a way of having software throwing things on the net (so is
> there an API)? The answer is obviously yes since Thaw does so as well,
> but I want to prevent myself from making the same mistakes again. I had
> a hard time finding documentation on it (sorry if I missed it)?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> --
> Brenno J.S.A.A.F. de Winter, WGASA
> Amsterdamseweg 71
> 6712 GH EDE
> The Netherlands
> 
> Phone: +31 653 53 6508 (Cell)
> 
> International numbers:
> USA: +1 619 758 3882
> United Kingdom: +44 20 3239 4421
> Australia: +61 28003501
> 
> Skype/Gizmoproject/AIM: brennodewinter
> E-mail/MSN: brenno at dewinter.com
> Jabber: brenno at jabber.org
> Twitter: brenno
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Re: [freenet-support] Using Freenet for Small Sister

[Matthew Toseland]

http://wiki.freenetproject.org/
http://wiki.freenetproject.org/FreenetFCPSpec2Point0

On Sunday 06 July 2008 13:54, Brenno J.S.A.A.F. de Winter, wgasa wrote:
 Hello,
 
 My name is Brenno de Winter and I started the Small Sister Project
 (http://www.smallsister.org/) a couple of months ago. We're focussing on
 data retention right now, but will build a more comprehensive privacy
 solution for people (open source obviously). I'm currently looking at
 Freenet as the ideal means to store messages (since after some time
 files automatically fall off the network and that is exactly what I need).
 
 There are two questions that I'm struggeling with and the answers aren't
 to obvious to me:
 1. Can I search the net for messages (for instance smallsis.PGPKEYID.*)
 so that the correct client can retrieve the messages of the network for
 them selves if they are new. Is this possible at all (through an index
 or a certain way of storing it?);
 2. Is there a way of having software throwing things on the net (so is
 there an API)? The answer is obviously yes since Thaw does so as well,
 but I want to prevent myself from making the same mistakes again. I had
 a hard time finding documentation on it (sorry if I missed it)?
 
 Cheers,
 
 --
 Brenno J.S.A.A.F. de Winter, WGASA
 Amsterdamseweg 71
 6712 GH EDE
 The Netherlands
 
 Phone: +31 653 53 6508 (Cell)
 
 International numbers:
 USA: +1 619 758 3882
 United Kingdom: +44 20 3239 4421
 Australia: +61 28003501
 
 Skype/Gizmoproject/AIM: brennodewinter
 E-mail/MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Twitter: brenno
 GnuPG/PGP-fingerprint: B0B4 C491 0B43 2F7E 2F58 0CE0 F2E8 EF45 D14A 033D
 
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[freenet-support] Using Freenet for Small Sister

[Volodya]

> 1. Can I search the net for messages (for instance smallsis.PGPKEYID.*) 
> so that the correct client can retrieve the messages of the network for 
> them selves if they are new. Is this possible at all (through an index 
> or a certain way of storing it?);

All the data is being passed in the encrypted format, so it is impossible to 
search for something without knowing the key already. Most applications create 
a 
higher level approach of announcing the key once it has been inserted, and thus 
having the ability to search. For example look at the way Thaw does it, a 
person 
creates a Thaw index, and announces the key of that index, after that the 
inserts are being added to that index, and thus other people (after updating 
the 
published index) can search it for whatever they wish. Frost has a file queues 
which act as one global list of files that have been inserted, and thus 
allowing 
the search.

In short, yes, it is possible to search for something if the person who has 
inserted that file wants it to be searchable, but that is not integrated into 
Freenet, but rather is done by the applications using Freenet.

> 2. Is there a way of having software throwing things on the net (so is 
> there an API)? The answer is obviously yes since Thaw does so as well, 
> but I want to prevent myself from making the same mistakes again. I had 
> a hard time finding documentation on it (sorry if I missed it)?

You may want to check out the following freesites for documentation:
http://localhost:/freenet:USK at 
D~O-C~so9RSMoJ~FWp9BHmE21npXmg0LzVTh-4xWoXU,bpMTwpHvzDmWzIOHSBkQZrdePdW2QhouvcWnh7KqFA8,AQACAAE/FIP/12/
http://localhost:/freenet:USK at 
ugb~uuscsidMI-Ze8laZe~o3BUIb3S50i25RIwDH99M,9T20t3xoG-dQfMO94LGOl9AxRTkaz~TykFY-voqaTQI,AQACAAE/FAFS/12/

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Re: [freenet-support] Using Freenet for Small Sister

[Volodya]

 1. Can I search the net for messages (for instance smallsis.PGPKEYID.*) 
 so that the correct client can retrieve the messages of the network for 
 them selves if they are new. Is this possible at all (through an index 
 or a certain way of storing it?);

All the data is being passed in the encrypted format, so it is impossible to 
search for something without knowing the key already. Most applications create 
a 
higher level approach of announcing the key once it has been inserted, and thus 
having the ability to search. For example look at the way Thaw does it, a 
person 
creates a Thaw index, and announces the key of that index, after that the 
inserts are being added to that index, and thus other people (after updating 
the 
published index) can search it for whatever they wish. Frost has a file queues 
which act as one global list of files that have been inserted, and thus 
allowing 
the search.

In short, yes, it is possible to search for something if the person who has 
inserted that file wants it to be searchable, but that is not integrated into 
Freenet, but rather is done by the applications using Freenet.

 2. Is there a way of having software throwing things on the net (so is 
 there an API)? The answer is obviously yes since Thaw does so as well, 
 but I want to prevent myself from making the same mistakes again. I had 
 a hard time finding documentation on it (sorry if I missed it)?

You may want to check out the following freesites for documentation:
http://localhost:/freenet:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED],bpMTwpHvzDmWzIOHSBkQZrdePdW2QhouvcWnh7KqFA8,AQACAAE/FIP/12/
http://localhost:/freenet:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED],9T20t3xoG-dQfMO94LGOl9AxRTkaz~TykFY-voqaTQI,AQACAAE/FAFS/12/

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[freenet-support] Using Freenet for Small Sister

[Brenno J.S.A.A.F. de Winter, wgasa]

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Hello,

My name is Brenno de Winter and I started the Small Sister Project 
(http://www.smallsister.org/) a couple of months ago. We're focussing on 
data retention right now, but will build a more comprehensive privacy 
solution for people (open source obviously). I'm currently looking at 
Freenet as the ideal means to store messages (since after some time 
files automatically fall off the network and that is exactly what I need).

There are two questions that I'm struggeling with and the answers aren't 
to obvious to me:
1. Can I search the net for messages (for instance smallsis.PGPKEYID.*) 
so that the correct client can retrieve the messages of the network for 
them selves if they are new. Is this possible at all (through an index 
or a certain way of storing it?);
2. Is there a way of having software throwing things on the net (so is 
there an API)? The answer is obviously yes since Thaw does so as well, 
but I want to prevent myself from making the same mistakes again. I had 
a hard time finding documentation on it (sorry if I missed it)?

Cheers,

- --
Brenno J.S.A.A.F. de Winter, WGASA
Amsterdamseweg 71
6712 GH EDE
The Netherlands

Phone: +31 653 53 6508 (Cell)

International numbers:
USA: +1 619 758 3882
United Kingdom: +44 20 3239 4421
Australia: +61 28003501

Skype/Gizmoproject/AIM: brennodewinter
E-mail/MSN: brenno at dewinter.com
Jabber: brenno at jabber.org
Twitter: brenno
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[freenet-support] Using Freenet for Small Sister

[Brenno J.S.A.A.F. de Winter, wgasa]

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Hello,

My name is Brenno de Winter and I started the Small Sister Project 
(http://www.smallsister.org/) a couple of months ago. We're focussing on 
data retention right now, but will build a more comprehensive privacy 
solution for people (open source obviously). I'm currently looking at 
Freenet as the ideal means to store messages (since after some time 
files automatically fall off the network and that is exactly what I need).

There are two questions that I'm struggeling with and the answers aren't 
to obvious to me:
1. Can I search the net for messages (for instance smallsis.PGPKEYID.*) 
so that the correct client can retrieve the messages of the network for 
them selves if they are new. Is this possible at all (through an index 
or a certain way of storing it?);
2. Is there a way of having software throwing things on the net (so is 
there an API)? The answer is obviously yes since Thaw does so as well, 
but I want to prevent myself from making the same mistakes again. I had 
a hard time finding documentation on it (sorry if I missed it)?

Cheers,

- --
Brenno J.S.A.A.F. de Winter, WGASA
Amsterdamseweg 71
6712 GH EDE
The Netherlands

Phone: +31 653 53 6508 (Cell)

International numbers:
USA: +1 619 758 3882
United Kingdom: +44 20 3239 4421
Australia: +61 28003501

Skype/Gizmoproject/AIM: brennodewinter
E-mail/MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Twitter: brenno
GnuPG/PGP-fingerprint: B0B4 C491 0B43 2F7E 2F58 0CE0 F2E8 EF45 D14A 033D
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[freenet-support] using freenet with an italian provider (fastweb)

[Matthew Toseland]

No. Not with freenet 0.5. Maybe with freenet 0.7, but doubtful. If you
want to try with 0.7, join #freenet on irc.freenode.net and we'll help
you to try.

On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 06:43:04PM +0100, MultiTaskinG wrote:
> Hi !
> 
> I have a question for you.
> I have an adsl 6mbps with FASTWEB provider (italy).
> Fastweb doesn't offer an unique ip to all users so my public ip shared 
> with 10-100-or thousand of other people.
> So any fastweb users doesn't have a public ip. (and we cannot ask for a 
> port :-(   )
> 
> Can I use freenet in order to realize a permanent node ?
> (I am behind 2 NAT)
> 81.208.x.x is the public fastweb ip
> 31.243.x.x. is the WAN ip that fastweb assign to my router
> 10.0.0.x is the ip of my computer.
> 
> other freenet nodes can reach me ?
> thank you
> 
> 
> MultiTaskinG
> 
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[freenet-support] using freenet with an italian provider (fastweb)

[MultiTaskinG]

Hi !

I have a question for you.
I have an adsl 6mbps with FASTWEB provider (italy).
Fastweb doesn't offer an unique ip to all users so my public ip shared 
with 10-100-or thousand of other people.
So any fastweb users doesn't have a public ip. (and we cannot ask for a 
port :-(   )

Can I use freenet in order to realize a permanent node ?
(I am behind 2 NAT)
81.208.x.x is the public fastweb ip
31.243.x.x. is the WAN ip that fastweb assign to my router
10.0.0.x is the ip of my computer.

other freenet nodes can reach me ?
thank you


MultiTaskinG

[freenet-support] using freenet with an italian provider (fastweb)

[MultiTaskinG]

Hi !

I have a question for you.
I have an adsl 6mbps with FASTWEB provider (italy).
Fastweb doesn't offer an unique ip to all users so my public ip shared 
with 10-100-or thousand of other people.
So any fastweb users doesn't have a public ip. (and we cannot ask for a 
port :-(   )


Can I use freenet in order to realize a permanent node ?
(I am behind 2 NAT)
81.208.x.x is the public fastweb ip
31.243.x.x. is the WAN ip that fastweb assign to my router
10.0.0.x is the ip of my computer.

other freenet nodes can reach me ?
thank you


MultiTaskinG


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Re: [freenet-support] using freenet with an italian provider (fastweb)

[Matthew Toseland]

No. Not with freenet 0.5. Maybe with freenet 0.7, but doubtful. If you
want to try with 0.7, join #freenet on irc.freenode.net and we'll help
you to try.

On Wed, Feb 01, 2006 at 06:43:04PM +0100, MultiTaskinG wrote:
 Hi !
 
 I have a question for you.
 I have an adsl 6mbps with FASTWEB provider (italy).
 Fastweb doesn't offer an unique ip to all users so my public ip shared 
 with 10-100-or thousand of other people.
 So any fastweb users doesn't have a public ip. (and we cannot ask for a 
 port :-(   )
 
 Can I use freenet in order to realize a permanent node ?
 (I am behind 2 NAT)
 81.208.x.x is the public fastweb ip
 31.243.x.x. is the WAN ip that fastweb assign to my router
 10.0.0.x is the ip of my computer.
 
 other freenet nodes can reach me ?
 thank you
 
 
 MultiTaskinG
 
 
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Re: [freenet-support] using freenet

[Greg Wooledge]

JJ WANG ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 now i have downloaded and installed the software, state of confusion kicks
 in. as a novice to the world of information technology, i can't seem to
 figure out how to use it, even after considerable amount of time was spent
 browsing through the faq. please advice.  i applaud you for what you are
 doing to keep the net free and anonymous. of which the importance is more so
 than ever.

Open up two web browser windows.  In the first, go to the URL

  http://localhost:8081/

(make sure you don't go through a proxy to do this; if you use a proxy,
add localhost to your list of no proxy sites).

In the second window, go to

  http://www.freegle.com/

Finally, remain patient.  Freenet is *slow*, especially for new nodes
who haven't retrieved keys and learned about other nodes yet.

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[freenet-support] using freenet

[michael d. hardy]

when will i know that i have downloaded freenet? i'm using win95 thanx.


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