Re: Device somehow powered down - would not power up again

2009-05-20 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Sun, 29.03.2009 at 15:20:11 +0100, Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote: FR is not expected to work without battery. That's technically impossible basically. GSM will take 2A in spikes, and usb can deliver max 500mA, from I seem to have expressed myself in a misleading way. I

Re: Device somehow powered down - would not power up again

2009-03-30 Thread Stefan Monnier
FR is not expected to work without battery. That's technically impossible basically. GSM will take 2A in spikes, and usb can deliver max 500mA, from What about running the FR without using GSM? Works fine for me. I'd think so, but what is the max power consumption in that case?

Re: Device somehow powered down - would not power up again

2009-03-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
FR is not expected to work without battery. That's technically impossible basically. GSM will take 2A in spikes, and usb can deliver max 500mA, from wallcharger FR may accept up to 1A. As soon as system power consumption gets higher than what USB can deliver, FR is powering down of course. The

Re: Device somehow powered down - would not power up again

2009-03-29 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 11:23:17PM +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Correct. This will be fixed with the new combined battery object that aggregates the information from various power sources. If noone beats me to it, I'll try to get it done after OpenExpo. Btw, (how) will FSO

Re: Device somehow powered down - would not power up again

2009-03-29 Thread Stefan Monnier
FR is not expected to work without battery. That's technically impossible basically. GSM will take 2A in spikes, and usb can deliver max 500mA, from What about running the FR without using GSM? Stefan ___ support mailing list

Re: Device somehow powered down - would not power up again

2009-03-29 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 02:37:37PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: FR is not expected to work without battery. That's technically impossible basically. GSM will take 2A in spikes, and usb can deliver max 500mA, from What about running the FR without using GSM? Works fine for me. --

Re: Device somehow powered down - would not power up again

2009-03-28 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
Toni Mueller wrote: thank you for pointing this out. I'll try to check that next time. It means that I can't boot and work on the FR w/o battery, though, because I need the device to be connected to a computer in order to do maintenance. Maybe this will be reworked sometime, because it's

Re: Device somehow powered down - would not power up again

2009-03-28 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 01:31:56PM +0100, Sebastian Spaeth wrote: USB only delivers 100mA until a higher rate is negotiated. But for this to happen you need to have the kernel and the usb drivers loaded already, so it is kind of difficult. And the FR uses more than 100mA when booting. USB

Re: Device somehow powered down - would not power up again

2009-03-28 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Sat, 28.03.2009 at 13:31:56 +0100, Sebastian Spaeth sebast...@sspaeth.de wrote: I am not a hardware guy! but... I'm not a hardware guy, too. I have opinions about how things *should* work, however (eg. work as advertised). USB only delivers 100mA until a higher rate is negotiated.

Re: Device somehow powered down - would not power up again

2009-03-28 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Saturday 28 March 2009 16:14:52 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen wrote: On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 01:31:56PM +0100, Sebastian Spaeth wrote: USB only delivers 100mA until a higher rate is negotiated. But for this to happen you need to have the kernel and the usb drivers loaded already, so it is

Device somehow powered down - would not power up again

2009-03-27 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, today, my FR suddenly powered down, due to unknown reason (I didn't see a shutdown message). The battery should have had 2/3rds of its capacity left over at that time. I was unable to awaken the device, not even with USB power. Then, I pulled it apart to remove the battery and the SIM card

Re: Device somehow powered down - would not power up again

2009-03-27 Thread Laura Vance
From: Toni Mueller supp...@oeko.net To: support@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 9:19:15 AM Subject: Device somehow powered down - would not power up again Hi, today, my FR suddenly powered down, due to unknown reason (I didn't see a shutdown message