Re: Not supporitng GTA01? [Was: [openmoko-announce] Om 2008.12 Beyond]

2008-12-23 Thread Gothnet
Craig Woodward wrote: I disagree for one simple reason: There has yet to be a stable kernel and interface for any GTA* phone from which to build. There are releases that are labeled stable, but most of them crash after a short time, or have major bugs that prevent the hardware from

Re: Not supporitng GTA01? [Was: [openmoko-announce] Om 2008.12 Beyond]

2008-12-23 Thread Markus Fischer
...at least the NEO 1973 will for sure be a collectors item! OpenMoko was and still is for developpers purpose. Let's see what round 03 will bring ;-) Cheers Am Dienstag 23 Dezember 2008 15:57:29 schrieb Gothnet: Craig Woodward wrote: I disagree for one simple reason: There has yet to be a

Re: Not supporitng GTA01? [Was: [openmoko-announce] Om 2008.12 Beyond]

2008-12-23 Thread Paul
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Markus Fischer i...@flyingfischer.ch wrote: ...at least the NEO 1973 will for sure be a collectors item! Why? I got a drawer full of non functional hardware. How much do you think I could get for that? OpenMoko was and still is for developpers purpose. The

Re: Not supporitng GTA01? [Was: [openmoko-announce] Om 2008.12 Beyond]

2008-12-23 Thread Peter Rasmussen
Funny comment, as are too many of those from the OpenMoko camp :-( My Neo1973 was from one of the first, if not the first batch sent out to regular people and nobody was more excited about OpenMoko than I. Sean probably doesn't remember it, but if he has saved his mails, he'll have the mail

Re: Not supporitng GTA01? [Was: [openmoko-announce] Om 2008.12 Beyond]

2008-12-23 Thread Marc Bantle
Peter Rasmussen schrieb: My Neo1973 was from one of the first, if not the first batch sent out to regular people and nobody was more excited about OpenMoko than I. Sean probably doesn't remember it, but if he has saved his mails, he'll have the mail trail. 1.The Neo1973, the GTA01, was

Re: Not supporitng GTA01? [Was: [openmoko-announce] Om 2008.12 Beyond]

2008-12-23 Thread Craig Woodward
Paul pault...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:30 AM, Markus Fischer i...@flyingfischer.ch wrote: OpenMoko was and still is for developpers purpose. The Freerunner was marketed as the Consumer Ready Version with the software to complete the readiness soon to follow. Bingo.

Re: Not supporitng GTA01? [Was: [openmoko-announce] Om 2008.12 Beyond]

2008-12-21 Thread Craig Woodward
I disagree for one simple reason: There has yet to be a stable kernel and interface for any GTA* phone from which to build. There are releases that are labeled stable, but most of them crash after a short time, or have major bugs that prevent the hardware from working like a normal phone for

Not supporitng GTA01? [Was: [openmoko-announce] Om 2008.12 Beyond]

2008-12-20 Thread Craig Woodward
Really? That's frightening to me. Six months after GTA02 is released, they totally stop support on GTA01? And now we're being told GTA03 is in the works? Did I spend a good chunk of change on an open-source phone that's barely functional and not going to be supported in nine months to a

Re: Not supporitng GTA01? [Was: [openmoko-announce] Om 2008.12 Beyond]

2008-12-20 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
I don't want to comment on whether Openmoko should do more work on GTA01 or rather concentrate on 02 and 03, but I do want to state that you can't compare the usual end-of-support product to an Openmoko end-of-support product. Openmoko not releasing anymore images for 01 is _orders of