Re: [om2009-r4] Warren's Settings Worked for Me (was Re: Om2009 testing release 4)

2009-06-09 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 8. Juni 2009 schrieb Warren Baird: complained that I sounded a bit muffled, so I reset it to the 101 (same as gsmhandset-a7.state), and since then it seems pretty good - my wife has please notice: http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2121#comment:3 gsmhandset-a7.state is deprecated!

Re: [om2009-r4] Warren's Settings Worked for Me (was Re: Om2009 testing release 4)

2009-06-09 Thread Warren Baird
Thanks, Joerg - I hadn't noticed that comment. Hmm - would it be possible to add a note at the top of the file itself indicating this? I found a post by you in the community list indicating that this was the 'real' state file to use, and so have been using it. I didn't think to check the

initramfs (was: Re: Om2009 testing release 4)

2009-06-08 Thread openmoko
Hi Kevin, Kevin Day wrote (ao): The initramfs must be pregenerated. The command to create the initramfs is: find . | cpio --quiet -H newc -o | gzip -9 -n /usr/src/boot-initrd.cpio.gz Place the initramfs into the kernel source tree, and then something like this config option should be

Re: [om2009-r4] Warren's Settings Worked for Me (was Re: Om2009 testing release 4)

2009-06-08 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 4. Juni 2009 schrieb William Ray Yeager: A critical friend of mine who has mocked my purchase of an unfinished phone just told me that our connection was as good as a landline! I followed Warren's advice below and lowered control.5 to 80 (I'm naturally conservative) which has (so far)

Re: [om2009-r4] Warren's Settings Worked for Me (was Re: Om2009 testing release 4)

2009-06-08 Thread openmoko
Joerg Reisenweber wrote (ao): Am Do 4. Juni 2009 schrieb William Ray Yeager: A critical friend of mine who has mocked my purchase of an unfinished phone just told me that our connection was as good as a landline! I followed Warren's advice below and lowered control.5 to 80 (I'm

Re: [om2009-r4] Warren's Settings Worked for Me (was Re: Om2009 testing release 4)

2009-06-08 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Joerg, I also tested this by lowering Mono to 72 with alsa-mixer on my A6 OM2009 Test4 after reading Warrens mail, and I now no longer sound like sitting on a motor lawnmower during a call. Maybe this is something different than the Buzz Issue, but it improves sounds for the other party a

Re: [om2009-r4] Warren's Settings Worked for Me (was Re: Om2009 testing release 4)

2009-06-08 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 8. Juni 2009 schrieb openm...@humilis.net: Joerg Reisenweber wrote (ao): Am Do 4. Juni 2009 schrieb William Ray Yeager: A critical friend of mine who has mocked my purchase of an unfinished phone just told me that our connection was as good as a landline! I followed Warren's

Re: [om2009-r4] Warren's Settings Worked for Me (was Re: Om2009 testing release 4)

2009-06-08 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 8. Juni 2009 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa: Joerg, I also tested this by lowering Mono to 72 with alsa-mixer on my A6 OM2009 Test4 after reading Warrens mail, and I now no longer sound like sitting on a motor lawnmower during a call. Maybe this is something different than the Buzz

Re: [om2009-r4] Warren's Settings Worked for Me (was Re: Om2009 testing release 4)

2009-06-08 Thread Paul
Please note the hardware revisions A5 and A6 have a hardware defect that is being recalled. To determine your hardware revision http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Hardware#Distinguishing_hardware_revisions I was notified by the vendor I purchased my freerunner from. Figured I would

Re: [om2009-r4] Warren's Settings Worked for Me (was Re: Om2009 testing release 4)

2009-06-08 Thread Warren Baird
Hi Joerg, I certainly don't mean to downplay the research you did - I was just trying to explain the experiences I've had. When I set control.5 to about 85 I no longer heard a buzz when I called myself on a phone - A few people complained that I sounded a bit muffled, so I reset it to the 101

Re: [om2009-r4] Warren's Settings Worked for Me (was Re: Om2009 testing release 4)

2009-06-08 Thread arne anka
I've still seen varying opinions on these mailing lists ranging from 'only 5% of people need the buzz fix' to 'everyone with an A5 or A6 needs the buzz fix'. they're not really varying -- it's like learning to swim: if you are absolutely sure, you'll never get into deep water, there's

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-06 Thread Angus Ainslie
On June 5, 2009 02:31:16 am Patryk Benderz wrote: Looks like these: http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/testing/NeoFreerunner/ are the same images i downloaded last time, May 21st. Am i looking for them at right place? The testing images haven't changed but the unstable ones have had

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-03 Thread Kevin Day
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2009, Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/6/2 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk: On Tuesday 26 May 2009, Robin Paulson wrote: there's no incentive i can see to stay with uboot You probably

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-03 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 03 June 2009, Kevin Day wrote: On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: On Tuesday 02 June 2009, Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/6/2 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk: On Tuesday 26 May 2009, Robin Paulson wrote: there's no

[om2009-r4] Warren's Settings Worked for Me (was Re: Om2009 testing release 4)

2009-06-03 Thread William Ray Yeager
A critical friend of mine who has mocked my purchase of an unfinished phone just told me that our connection was as good as a landline! I followed Warren's advice below and lowered control.5 to 80 (I'm naturally conservative) which has (so far) completely removed the previously unbearable buzz my

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-02 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 26 May 2009, Robin Paulson wrote: there's no incentive i can see to stay with uboot You probably don't have 4 different distros on you SD then ;-) ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-02 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Tuesday 02 June 2009 13:04:13 Al Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 26 May 2009, Robin Paulson wrote: there's no incentive i can see to stay with uboot You probably don't have 4 different distros on you SD then ;-) +1 ;) ___ support mailing list

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-02 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/6/2 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk: On Tuesday 26 May 2009, Robin Paulson wrote: there's no incentive i can see to stay with uboot You probably don't have 4 different distros on your SD then ;-) no, i don't. but it doesn't look like it will be long before qi can do multi-boot

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-02 Thread Joachim Ott
2009/6/2 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com: 2009/6/2 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk: On Tuesday 26 May 2009, Robin Paulson wrote: there's no incentive i can see to stay with uboot You probably don't have 4 different distros on your SD then ;-) no, i don't. but it doesn't

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-02 Thread Micael Henriksson
The major reason for Qi's existence is maintainability. U-Boot has a problem with all drivers for different HW being copied from the kernel tree. When the kernel is updated/patched, the fixes don't automagically appear in U-Boot. Qi instead try to do as little as possible to be HW independant.

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-02 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 02 June 2009, Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/6/2 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk: On Tuesday 26 May 2009, Robin Paulson wrote: there's no incentive i can see to stay with uboot You probably don't have 4 different distros on your SD then ;-) no, i don't. but it doesn't

Re: Finding a recent U-Boot (Was: Om2009 testing release 4)

2009-06-01 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 04:50:12PM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote: this is more about predicting where qi will go in future, than where it is now. and various people from om have talked about qi being the way forward. i imagine there will be no more significant changes to uboot from here onwards,

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-06-01 Thread Warren Baird
I'm starting to think that this must be the case. I've always had people complain that they got a lot of static when they called me - I thought I had the buzz problem in fact. I just spent the time to figure out how to use alsamixer to tweak things, and if I set control.5 (Mono Playback

Finding a recent U-Boot (Was: Om2009 testing release 4)

2009-05-31 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 07:55:31PM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote: i think the critical thing is that you are using a *recent* version of whichever bootloader, be it uboot or qi http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009#Installing Unfortunately, the U-Boot download link points to an ancient (8

Re: Finding a recent U-Boot (Was: Om2009 testing release 4)

2009-05-31 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 18:18, Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk wrote:   Other than being able to flash a new boot loader. :-) With Qi you're still able to flash a new bootloader (unless you have gta01 without debug board :P) ___ support

Re: Finding a recent U-Boot (Was: Om2009 testing release 4)

2009-05-31 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/6/1 Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk:   Unfortunately, the U-Boot download link points to an ancient (8 months old) version of U-Boot. The latest U-Boot is here: http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/experimental/NeoFreerunner/ ah, good you found it. i didn't realise that link was

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-29 Thread Paul
r, The link to the statefile produces a lot of static and echo. I've tweaked mine to a usable level. It is attached to this email. This file still needs work. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:58 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: I myself am using

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-29 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Paul pault...@gmail.com wrote: r, The link to the statefile produces a lot of static and echo.  I've tweaked mine to a usable level.  It is attached to this email. This file still needs work. Hmm.. interesting, I have no problems with it.. I wonder if the

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-29 Thread Petr Vanek
The link to the statefile produces a lot of static and echo.  I've tweaked mine to a usable level.  It is attached to this email. This file still needs work. Hmm.. interesting, I have no problems with it.. I wonder if the FR's are unique in this sense..? i can only speak for myself - we have

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-28 Thread Paul
Can someone please post a usable state file, the edits on the link http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/changeset/4968 were already in the state file. Please help, My friends will not talk to me! On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:12 PM,

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-28 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
I myself am using http://www.kurppa.fi/freerunner/config_files/gsmhandset.state - but I guess the one installed by default should work too (not sure if it's the same nowadays..). When on call, AUX changes the speaker volume (20-40-60-80-100%). Using level over 80 might cause some echo. r --

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-27 Thread Alexander Shulgin
On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Chris Jenks ch...@jenks.us wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2009, Alexander Shulgin wrote: Finally it works for me after qi reflash. :) -- Alex   I thought it was working too until I got a couple calls. The callers hung up after not being able to hear me at all.

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-27 Thread Paul
Thanks Warren. Before I go home and try this out, does anyone know if the echo patch is applied to 2009? Thanks. On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Warren Baird wjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.cawrote: I found the message I followed - the suggestion was to basically undo

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-27 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Paul pault...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Warren. Before I go home and try this out, does anyone know if the echo patch is applied to 2009? Yes it is, it's been in since OM2008.12 or so.. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-26 Thread Alexander Shulgin
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Alexander Shulgin alex.shul...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, silly me.  I just realized I didn't reflash the boot loader.  Will try a bit later. Finally it works for me after qi reflash. :) -- Alex ___ support mailing list

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-26 Thread Max
В Втр, 26/05/2009 в 10:11 +0300, Alexander Shulgin пишет: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Alexander Shulgin alex.shul...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, silly me. I just realized I didn't reflash the boot loader. Will try a bit later. Finally it works for me after qi reflash. :) That's kind of

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-26 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/5/26 Max m...@darim.com: В Втр, 26/05/2009 в 10:11 +0300, Alexander Shulgin пишет: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Alexander Shulgin alex.shul...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, silly me.  I just realized I didn't reflash the boot loader.  Will try a bit later. Finally it works for me after

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-26 Thread Chris Jenks
On Tue, 26 May 2009, Alexander Shulgin wrote: Finally it works for me after qi reflash. :) -- Alex I thought it was working too until I got a couple calls. The callers hung up after not being able to hear me at all. Isn't anyone else having this problem? I'm using the latest u-boot,

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-26 Thread Warren Baird
I'm using TR4 - I had to tweak the gsmhandset.state file (as mentioned by someone else in a thread - I can't recall where right now - sorry). Without the tweak I was able to receive calls, but the audio quality was horrible - really bad background buzz. I am using u-boot - I upgraded it probably

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-26 Thread Paul
Can your provide the state file or a link to it? Thanks. On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Warren Baird wjba...@alumni.uwaterloo.cawrote: I'm using TR4 - I had to tweak the gsmhandset.state file (as mentioned by someone else in a thread - I can't recall where right now - sorry). Without the

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-23 Thread David Fokkema
On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 19:07 +0300, Alexander Shulgin wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Chris Jenks ch...@jenks.us wrote: On Fri, 22 May 2009, Alexander Shulgin wrote: Hi, Just flashed the latest images and now I get this on boot: In: /var/cache: No space left on device (+

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-23 Thread Chris Jenks
On Sat, 23 May 2009, David Fokkema wrote: On Fri, 2009-05-22 at 19:07 +0300, Alexander Shulgin wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Chris Jenks ch...@jenks.us wrote: On Fri, 22 May 2009, Alexander Shulgin wrote: Hi, Just flashed the latest images and now I get this on boot: In:

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-22 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Alexander Shulgin alex.shul...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote: Hi, Just flashed the latest images and now I get this on boot: In: /var/cache: No space left on device (+ a few more, /var/lock among

Re: Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-22 Thread Warren Baird
I didn't see the /var/cache issue, but I just installed on the sd card, rather than flashing. I can say that TR4 is definitely improved over TR3 - very impressive for such a short cycle. There's still a long way to go on the usability side. For example I still haven't figured out exactly where

Om2009 testing release 4

2009-05-21 Thread Angus Ainslie
Hi All, As I think we've fixed more things than we broke it's time for another testing release. As usual there are additional instructions here. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2009 There is also a new page for community involvement. Many of these wishlist items need someone to implement