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2009-07-09 Thread Andreas Jonasson
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Re: Manually change settings.

2009-07-09 Thread arne anka
> Sorry, I should have mentioned that I have 2008.8.  But plan to
> install SHR soon.  I am having trouble connecting via ssh in Ubuntu
> 9.04.  Not sure what the problems is.  Things worked flawlessly in
> Ubuntu 8.04.

you don't need ssh to install 2009. just get the image and flash.
i don't think, it is a good idea to invest much time and effort into 2008.

> I assume that editing rules.yaml is the same in 2008.8 as you descibed
> for 2009?

nope. 2008 has nothing to do with fso.
don't know, how 2008 does auto suspend, but maybe
> http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1928
helps?

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Re: Manually change settings.

2009-07-09 Thread Bill Purcell
Sorry, I should have mentioned that I have 2008.8.  But plan to
install SHR soon.  I am having trouble connecting via ssh in Ubuntu
9.04.  Not sure what the problems is.  Things worked flawlessly in
Ubuntu 8.04.  

I assume that editing rules.yaml is the same in 2008.8 as you descibed
for 2009?  

On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 07:42:57PM +0200, arne anka wrote:
> 2009? isn't it fso based?
> auto suspend should be triggered by a rule in
> /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml
> i guess.
> you would then need to disable that rule and either try
> 
> mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.oeventsd /org/freesmartphone/Events  
> org.freesmartphone.Events.ReloadRules
> 
> or restart fso.
> there's a method to remove a rule, but it requires the rule's name -- and  
> there's apparently no method to list all rules and in rules.yaml there's  
> no names.
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Re: Setting app nor opkg update seem to be working

2009-07-09 Thread Paul
Bill,

If this is totally new to you first update the GSM firmware
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GSM/Flashing#uSD-card_Image_.28GTA02_only.29

Then Update Qi
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi#Installation

then you just need to flash a rootfs and a kernel image from
http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/

The links you've provided below should show you how to flash the
rootfs/kernel.


On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Bill Purcell  wrote:

> I think I will try out SHR.  It looks like
>
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR
>
> will help me with SHR specific stuff but I first need to learn how to
> flash, which
>
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner
>
> should be a good guide for that.
>
> Should I flash everything ... bootloader, kernel, and shr image or can
> I just flash the shr image over the top? (I probably sound ignorant and
> that's because I am ... I am less than 24 hrs into openmoko land.)
>
> Any advice?  I will start a new thread if I start having troubles with
> the flash and google doesn't answer my questions.  Is this the right
> list for this type of discussion?
>
> On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 10:54:55AM -0400, Paul wrote:
> > I recommend using SHR's unstable image ...
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Re: Manually change settings.

2009-07-09 Thread arne anka
2009? isn't it fso based?
auto suspend should be triggered by a rule in
/etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml
i guess.
you would then need to disable that rule and either try

mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.oeventsd /org/freesmartphone/Events  
org.freesmartphone.Events.ReloadRules

or restart fso.
there's a method to remove a rule, but it requires the rule's name -- and  
there's apparently no method to list all rules and in rules.yaml there's  
no names.

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Manually change settings.

2009-07-09 Thread Bill Purcell
My Settings app will not open.  Is there a way to manually change
settings through a ssh session or something.  Specifically, I need to
turn off the auto suspend feature to maintain a ssh session. 

Bill

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Re: Setting app nor opkg update seem to be working

2009-07-09 Thread Bill Purcell
I think I will try out SHR.  It looks like 

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR

will help me with SHR specific stuff but I first need to learn how to
flash, which

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner

should be a good guide for that.

Should I flash everything ... bootloader, kernel, and shr image or can
I just flash the shr image over the top? (I probably sound ignorant and
that's because I am ... I am less than 24 hrs into openmoko land.)

Any advice?  I will start a new thread if I start having troubles with
the flash and google doesn't answer my questions.  Is this the right
list for this type of discussion? 

On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 10:54:55AM -0400, Paul wrote:
> I recommend using SHR's unstable image ... 

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Re: Setting app nor opkg update seem to be working

2009-07-09 Thread Petr Vanek
>There a lot of nice features that I hope will be introduced to SHR,
>e.g. contact names in text messages, etc.  However, I am very happy
>that SHR is stable and usable.

this is very true

Petr





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Re: Setting app nor opkg update seem to be working

2009-07-09 Thread Paul
There a lot of nice features that I hope will be introduced to SHR, e.g.
contact names in text messages, etc.  However, I am very happy that SHR is
stable and usable.

Does anyone know what it'll take to be able to send receive attachments?

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Petr Vanek  wrote:

> >I recommend using SHR's unstable image, the July 3rd image, as an
> >everyday phone.  They just came out with a new build today which I
> >have not yet tested.  om2009, though pretty reliable, is lacking in
> >terms of other software you can install to make a nice smart phone.
>
> there is one feature om2009 has that nobody else implemented yet - SMS
> delivery report :(
>
> i use SHR anyways, quietly hoping that perhaps one day the code gets
> copied from paroli and used in shr (not really as paroli is in
> python...) and SMS delivery notify will start working in SHR too :)
>
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Re: Setting app nor opkg update seem to be working

2009-07-09 Thread Petr Vanek
>I recommend using SHR's unstable image, the July 3rd image, as an
>everyday phone.  They just came out with a new build today which I
>have not yet tested.  om2009, though pretty reliable, is lacking in
>terms of other software you can install to make a nice smart phone.

there is one feature om2009 has that nobody else implemented yet - SMS
delivery report :(

i use SHR anyways, quietly hoping that perhaps one day the code gets
copied from paroli and used in shr (not really as paroli is in
python...) and SMS delivery notify will start working in SHR too :)

Petr


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Re: Setting app nor opkg update seem to be working

2009-07-09 Thread Paul
I recommend using SHR's unstable image, the July 3rd image, as an everyday
phone.  They just came out with a new build today which I have not yet
tested.  om2009, though pretty reliable, is lacking in terms of other
software you can install to make a nice smart phone.

On my phone I have GPS working (Initial TangoGPS may take 15 mins to locate
position), GPRS is reliable (not quite stable).  I can send and receive text
messages and phone calls reliably.

It is the most stable distro and usable distro out there that I've tested.
Only tweak that I had to do is to low Control.4's value to below 100 in
/usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state to avoid echos on the other
end for calls.

http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/


On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Bill Purcell  wrote:

> Yeah, I have 2008.8.
>
> I was using the openDNS nameservers last night and thought I pinged
> google just fine.  It was late and can't remember now.  I am trying to
> connect to the FR on my work computer now and it's not going so well.
> I can't open the settings app like I mentioned in my initial post, so
> I have to keep tapping the screen every few seconds, which I am not
> good about doing, so the phone keeps suspending.  This wouldn't be
> that big of a deal except if it goes into suspend mode a few times, it
> will eventually never wake up and I have to take the battery out to
> shut it off and then I can get back to work.
>
> If I upgraded to 2009 would all my problems go away?
>
> Is anyone using this as an everyday phone?  I see a lot of jargon
> about how the openmoko is not ready for everyday use, but I think I'm
> going to give it a whirl (once I can get things functioning).
>
> On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 07:25:29AM -0400, Paul wrote:
> > It sounds like a network issue.  I would try pinging google.com.  If
> this
> > failes then ensure the nameserver is correct
> >
> > *echo nameserver* xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > /etc/resolv.conf
> > xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the IP address of your router.
> >
> > Peace
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 4:22 AM, Patryk Benderz  >wrote:
> >
> > > > i would assume it's 2008.8, from the opkg error messages.
> > > my fault, i didn't read error messages carefully :)
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Re: Setting app nor opkg update seem to be working

2009-07-09 Thread Patryk Benderz
> If I upgraded to 2009 would all my problems go away?
Not all but most of them. And some additional will appear ;)
If you are going to install OM2009t5, keep in mind that most likely you
will have to modify/replace *state files to be able to use FR as a
phone. Look at today('s?) posts on community mailing list for additional
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Re: Setting app nor opkg update seem to be working

2009-07-09 Thread Bill Purcell
Yeah, I have 2008.8.

I was using the openDNS nameservers last night and thought I pinged
google just fine.  It was late and can't remember now.  I am trying to
connect to the FR on my work computer now and it's not going so well.
I can't open the settings app like I mentioned in my initial post, so
I have to keep tapping the screen every few seconds, which I am not
good about doing, so the phone keeps suspending.  This wouldn't be
that big of a deal except if it goes into suspend mode a few times, it
will eventually never wake up and I have to take the battery out to
shut it off and then I can get back to work.

If I upgraded to 2009 would all my problems go away?

Is anyone using this as an everyday phone?  I see a lot of jargon
about how the openmoko is not ready for everyday use, but I think I'm
going to give it a whirl (once I can get things functioning).

On Thu, Jul 09, 2009 at 07:25:29AM -0400, Paul wrote:
> It sounds like a network issue.  I would try pinging google.com.  If this
> failes then ensure the nameserver is correct
> 
> *echo nameserver* xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > /etc/resolv.conf
> xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the IP address of your router.
> 
> Peace
> 
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 4:22 AM, Patryk Benderz wrote:
> 
> > > i would assume it's 2008.8, from the opkg error messages.
> > my fault, i didn't read error messages carefully :)


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Re: Setting app nor opkg update seem to be working

2009-07-09 Thread Paul
It sounds like a network issue.  I would try pinging google.com.  If this
failes then ensure the nameserver is correct

*echo nameserver* xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > /etc/resolv.conf
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the IP address of your router.

Peace

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 4:22 AM, Patryk Benderz wrote:

> > i would assume it's 2008.8, from the opkg error messages.
> my fault, i didn't read error messages carefully :)
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Re: Setting app nor opkg update seem to be working

2009-07-09 Thread Patryk Benderz
> i would assume it's 2008.8, from the opkg error messages.
my fault, i didn't read error messages carefully :)

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Re: Setting app nor opkg update seem to be working

2009-07-09 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/7/9 Patryk Benderz :
> And what distribution have you installed? Is it stock OM2007 that came
> with FreeRunner? I feel confused...

i would assume it's 2008.8, from the opkg error messages.

bill, i'd advise you to check out a more modern distribution - 2008
was only intended as a stopgap and isn't that great: 2009 and shr are
both pretty advanced, but there are several others to choose from:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions

has a list

it also looks like you've got an issue with routing on your host
machine, which may be why you're getting those 0 errors?

have you configured your machine as explained on this page:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking

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Re: Setting app nor opkg update seem to be working

2009-07-09 Thread Patryk Benderz
And what distribution have you installed? Is it stock OM2007 that came
with FreeRunner? I feel confused...

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