Re: [FSO] FSO unfunded?
So, quick thing, is the only thing that OM does when it comes to the FR community: -Pay Deiter (Mr. GSM) -Sell Freerunners On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl wrote: Craig Woodward wrote: What does this mean? That FIC/OM don't have anyone working on it anymore? Is there a new flavor of the year (to be released just after FR3 maybe)? Does FIC/OM have anyone working on software for the FR any more? And when/where was this announced? some relevant threads: - Sean's speech at ESC about making a 3G device http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-April/044880.html - The future of the Neo Freerunner http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-April/044997.html - Slashdotted http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-April/045048.html - FSO status? http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-April/045279.html Regards, Fernando ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Stylus
To find something as close as possible to the original OM stylus: http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/tools/b23c/ On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Rene Horn the.rh...@gmail.com wrote: I just get the flexible DS stylus from a local store. They're actually really nice, and since it's bendable, I just loop it through the hole in the FR when I'm done using it. Rene On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:55 AM, freerun...@newkirk.us wrote: --- Original message --- Subject: Stylus From: Marc Rios marcrio...@gmail.com To: Support for Openmoko Device Owners support@lists.openmoko.org Date: 22/01/2009 8:58 PM Hi, Anybody knows where can I buy another stylus?? Thanks If you're looking for the same laser/light/pen/stylus that shipped with the FreeRunner for a time, I believe this is it: http://www.cross-mark.com/multifunction-stylus-laser-blue-ball-p-806.html I've ordered from them before and they've been reliable, but allow 10-14 days for ordinary shipping to US. j ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- Sigs are boring, except this one... ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Boot hangs at splash when USB cable plugged in (GTA02v5)
What's on the other end of the USB cable? On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Nathan Kinkade n...@nkinka.de wrote: My Freerunner hangs on the splash screen forever when I boot (or reboot) while the USB cable is plugged in. I can boot fine from the Boot option of both the NOR and NAND boot menu, so I don't suspect a faulty u-boot environment. I found the following ticket, but it seems to indicate that it was an issue for only the GTA01: https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/874 When it hangs, I can login with a serial console and simply issue a boot command to continue. To recover from the hang I either have to remove the battery or login and power it off (neo1973 power-off). Could this be related to the above (now closed) ticket, or is this maybe expected bahavior and I just never knew it? I'm using a u-boot dated 2008-12-20 (gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin). Saludos, Nathan ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: gsm firmware flashing not working
Join the IRC if you can. Make sure nothing is accessing your modem. You can do that by checking fuser -v /dev/ttySAC0. Also, try debian. On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 5:57 PM, genesis dkir...@mchsi.com wrote: I just bought my Neo Freerunner and have a ATT 3g sim card 71234G which is not working came with qtopia on it but flashed it with OM 2008.9 tried following the GSM/Flash guide and putting the FSO console image on though that likes to kernel panic tried various options with fluid using no flow control,-oo and trying different baud rate. appreciate some help -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/gsm-firmware-flashing-not-working-tp1666031p1666031.html Sent from the Openmoko Support mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Sad Story
Battery decay is not linear. On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca writes: - unreliable suspend (supposedly fixed in upcoming kernels) Yes, I have used stable-tracking 80f4b57fef now for 15 days and resume works as long as I have use sleep 4; apm -s; sleep 4 to suspend (there is some race somewhere but this avoids it). - constant re-registration (here as well, there's a software workaround, which apparently causes a minor reduction in autonomy, tho it's not clear yet how minor: it depends on how well suspend works for you). Here I lose about 3.6 percentage units per hour. If the units are linear that means 100/3.6 = 28 hours of suspend time. This is enough for me since I can charge the phone over night. I also bought external USB battery for $14 from http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3060 which I use when I am away from home for more than one day. ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: Sad Story
Ah! legal recourse is certainly not the right path! I have long stayed out of this discussion as it's mostly been trolling about OpenMoko, but to be honest making a phone is hard... I've personally worked on projects involving building consumer electronics devices. We had far less success compared to the OM project, and there were signifcantly more people on the team. In my opinion what Openmoko needs to do is release a solid hardware platform, until this happens software development will be delayed. If that means concentrating on the v03, then do it. From what I see the v03 looks like the v02, with a different SoC and minus the smedia (glamo) controller. What I was hoping from the v03 was a new SoC, modem, and sound card. More time is being spent on miniaturization. This is not the community that cares about how the phone looks. Additionally, don't wait another 8 months before selling v03s, we want it soon, or fix the v02. Regarding what OM has done right: They released an awesome development platform for the gsm networks. What I want from FR now: I want someone from FR (steve mosher? sean moss?) to post updates and a timeline. I want them to say when things will be fixed, what exact developments are going on at OM, etc... This has to be on a regular basis. They -need- a blog or a similar method to publish this. At least it would give us some small bit of confidence that our devices are being worked on. Right now the only development I see is: -mickey on FSO, he publishes a lot data, wwe can get ahold of him -some minor work on the kernel. Get steve mosher (pr) somewhere available. we want transparency.. On 12/12/08, Karthik Kumar karthikku...@gmail.com wrote: I clearly don't blame the developers here myself. I blame Openmoko's selfish management (probably it's board of directors or C*Os) for this. I am sure that a developer who talks back against this will just get fired/have to face bad consequences. What would be the best way to 'convince' or 'force' the management to change their decisions? Does anyone know a lawyer? -Karthik On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:23 PM, Paul pault...@gmail.com wrote: My experience, as I'm sure with many other people, with my freerunner has been frustrating most of the time. To say, its all on the user is wrong. Granted the community could be better, however, its hard to contribute when everything is so fragmented. For instance, about the echo problem, one of the developers for OpenMoko stated Since there are different hw versions out there (a5, a6, a7), it's impossible to provide one alsa state file that suits all models. Wait a sec. If the developers know the issues, What's preventing the if statement that would prevent hundreds of hours of tweaking, testing, and frustration for the community? Let's be honest here FIC is making a pretty penny off of OpenMoko, using very old hardware selling at a premium price (2.5g not even EDGE). Yet we are OK with that. What the community DOES expect is basic support, for starters a phone that makes calls without echoing, doesn't drop connection and sends and receives text messages reliably as the Number 1 priority. If I'm not mistaken, the majority of the working code in OpenMoko is from Trolltech. In addition FSO has a very nice distro and the Freerunner isn't even its main device. Yet more than 1 year AFTER the release of the 1974, we still have MAJOR issues from a basic install of Om. Then we read stuff like this. OM is moving more focus to gta03 now, so my current resource for qtopia is fairly limited. It becomes evident that FIC and Openmoko cares less about creating reliably working software then it does about moving products. (not blaming the developers here, they get pressure) Follow the next link and I think I've made my case. http://www.cafepress.com/openmoko_inc Now with that said, I will be posting online my howtos including scripts to make a kinda stable variant of FDOM soon. Been too busy reflashing my phone. On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 1:28 AM, Karthik Kumar karthikku...@gmail.com wrote: You should have fixed the GTA02 months back, when you released it. Instead, you people are working on GTA03/Neo Whatever. It proves that you don't care about the community, You just care about the bunch of people who might want to buy your upcoming phones, who sponsor your own selfish causes and suffer while you are working on GTA04. -- Paul Email - pault...@gmail.com There were moments when he looked on evil simply as a mode through which he could realize his conception of the beautiful. Oscar Wilde - The Picture of Dorian Gray ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support
Re: Still can't register GSM
Stupid question, Have you flashed moko10 gsm firmware? On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Daniel Dadap dan...@digsoc.com wrote: I wrote earlier about being unable to register GSM. It happened out of the blue and I still can't register. Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 16:33:49 + From: Andy Green a...@openmoko.com Subject: Re: GSM no longer registers on GTA02 - how to troubleshoot? Your U-Boot environment can have some issue, that's why the problem behaviour is so sticky. You are into trying to get a USB serial connection on ttyACM0 on your host and meddling from there. About your main problem not much idea except confirm the SIM still works on another phone I guess. - -Andy Yeah, I'm going to try messing around over the USB console, but I'm trying to get GSM to work first. The SIM works fine on my dumbphone which I have been using for the past few days. I've tried two different SIMs, from two different carriers, both of which used to work on my FR, and both of which still work on other phones. I know that the FR can see the SIM because I can read contacts off of it and stored SMS messages. I have reflashed the phone with several images which were all known working. I'm stumped, and I'm worried that it might not be a software problem. (I think FR only has 30 or 60 day warranty and mine is already older.) How much would an out of warranty repair cost, if I have a hardware problem? How can I tell what the FR is trying to do when it tries to register (and fails)? I like to know if it seems to be the antenna, or the Calypso, or something else. Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 12:09:47 -0500 From: Paul pault...@gmail.com Subject: Re: GSM no longer registers on GTA02 - how to troubleshoot? To: Support for Openmoko Device Owners support@lists.openmoko.org Message-ID: c31a36600812090909hc71e2cevfdc0feb007c40...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I received the same behavior when I updated to the latest testing images. I revered to the old 2008.9 images and things are working again. -- Paul I tried many different images, all of which used to work fine. None of them can register. Also, does anybody know how I can reply to a message and keep it in the right thread if I don't receive individual messages? (I am subscribed in digest mode.) Is there a web interface where I can reply to a specific message? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
