Re: Login screen on firmware upgradation

2011-03-19 Thread arne anka
well, there's probably a lot of people finding _your_ message both  
unneccessary and offensive!


- you hijackd a thread completely unrelated to vent your individual  
frustration insdtead of respecting the request of the op
- you tried to force your personal opinion about the state of om on  
everybody, completely ignoring that the people still active an the list  
very likely think otherwise
- you claim to be the one who after a long time of joint self-deception  
finally speaks the truth -- which is both materially and factually  
nonsense. the discussion about om being a failure or not is recurrent and  
monitoring silently the list for month now after a rather lively interest  
before, i think i safely can say, that those people still active  
completely disagree with you (certainly the op, which you regarded with  
such contempt, does)


if whath you posted is your honest opnion, you are free to move on and  
leave.


if you think you have new points to make about om's state and future, you  
are free to open your own thread -- but, please, check the archives before  
...




Sorry if I offended you, Dr Schaller.
However, I respectfully suggest that you look up the word rant in a  
dictionary

before using it. I found your message offensive.

Nick




From: Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@computer.org
To: Support for Openmoko Device Owners support@lists.openmoko.org
Sent: Sat, March 19, 2011 9:17:11 AM
Subject: Re: Login screen on firmware upgradation

Hi Nick,
it must be said that your rant does not help at all to answer
the original support question.


Hi Rijul,
please check that your downloaded image is not corrupted.


You can download and compare it with our copy which we
have used successfully an uncounted number of times:


http://download.goldelico.com/gta02/Moko11/


You must also flash the image on the flat memory card
(e.g. /dev/sdb) and not into a partition (and not /dev/sdb1 or  
/dev/sdb2).



To boot from NOR flash, press the AUX button and
then power on. The boot menu should appear within
a second. Choose boot from SD (ext).


Hope this helps,
Nikolaus




Am 19.03.2011 um 07:53 schrieb halbtaxabo...@yahoo.com:

You know, folks, I think it's time to admit that the Openmoko project  
was a

failure, and move on.


It was a great idea and a lot of us supported it with our money as  
well as our

time, but the device as eventually sold was poorly designed and badly
implemented. Even the people who bought it after several rounds of  
hardware
bug-fixes got a clunky device with pathetic battery-life. Since the  
hardware is
crap, it's not surprising that software developers didn't exactly  
flock to it.

Trying to make it usable is flogging a dead horse.

The nearest thing we will get to an open cellphone will probably be  
something
made by Samsung, Motorola, or one of the other big consumer-device  
companies,

running Android.

I don't want to offend people, but I think it's time somebody came out  
and said
this. If you want to put your time and effort into Free Software, then  
pick a
platform that has a future. Your time and effort are valuable even if  
you don't

get paid for them; don't waste them.

Nick






From: Rijul Jain cyberl...@gmail.com
To: support@lists.openmoko.org
Sent: Sat, March 19, 2011 5:43:27 AM
Subject: Login screen on firmware upgradation

Hey,

i recently got a neo free runner and wanted to upgrade the firmware  
to openmoko
11 so i downloaded the image , wrote it on my uSD card and tried to  
boot it from
the phone . It boots up file but after 2 mins , a Green Coloured  
Angstrom screen

came and it is stuck at om-gta02 login :_

its been stuck there for hours and i dont know what to do

Anyhelp would be appreciated . Thanks

--
Rijul Jain


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Re: Display not working

2010-08-06 Thread arne anka
so far your descriptions are not really helpful.

you see the openmoko logo but then nothing happens?
then there's neither a problem with the display nor the backlight, but  
with your X.

please describe _exactly_ what happens from powering on the freerunner  
until the moment the problem occurs and describe in detail the problem!

 Yes. In a backlight, I am able to see Openmoko symbol but display is not  
 working..

 Thanks.

 -Original Message-
 From: support-boun...@lists.openmoko.org  
 [mailto:support-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] On Behalf Of Timo Juhani  
 Lindfors
 Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 1:25 PM
 To: Support for Openmoko Device Owners
 Subject: Re: Display not working

 Harshil Anil Kumar Shah harshil_s...@infosys.com writes:
 My Openmoko neo freerunner display is not working.

 Not even in NOR u-boot? Is it just the backlight? (Can you see screen
 contents if you use a flashlight and watch carefully?)

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Re: Display not working

2010-08-06 Thread arne anka
 Now even I am not able to ssh on FR via my laptop. So I can not run any  
 of the command on FR.

remove the battery, wait a few minutes, put it back in and restart.
what happens?

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Re: Display not working

2010-08-06 Thread arne anka
 http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

isn't there an equivalent for smart answers?
most of the 12 mails were caused by people just throwing in their 2c w/o  
requesting further information.

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Re: Neo Freerunner Display Broken

2010-04-12 Thread arne anka
 from your description, it could be the connector or cable connecting  
display and board.
you could try to open the fr and check, if the connector still sits firmly.

btw: i guess it's better to write to commun...@om, no idea how many people  
still read supp...@om.

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Re: Making debian the default boot

2010-02-04 Thread arne anka
 Thanks for your thoughts. The problem with using Qi is that it can only
 go into NAND which still means you have to push the Aux button when you
 boot (and a 2nd time if there are file check errors).

huh? where did you get that from?

qi tries to boot all sd partitions and falls back to nand if no sd  
partition has a kernel.
pleased read
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi

qi _is_ the solution for your scenario.

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Re: Problem on starting zhone on debian distribution.

2009-12-21 Thread arne anka
 after few tries zhone eventually starts working.

known issue.
maybe related to dbus timeouts, very likely related to fso needing some  
time to settle after start.
neil jerram posted recently a few patches to remedy that at least in zhone  
(running through a loop until successful), somewhat working.
see
 http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-December/058431.html

in the same thread a few mails up i posted a link to debs for dbus with an  
increased timeout.

 My sim is not pin protected.

the same scenario neil successfuly deployed his patches against.
download all three at the above url, apply and be happy.

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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-24 Thread arne anka
 i still have 1 qustion how can i write files to FR throw the ssh
 what are the commands?
 tnx again for your time


please, always quote only the really necessary parts!

as for writing files: depends on your definition of writing.
once you are via ssh on the fr, you can use vim, nano, emacs, whatever  
just like in another terminal.

if you mean transfering files to the fr, your friend is
scp
which is to be used _parallel_ to ssh, ie instead of ssh us sue scp just  
like cp:
scp foo.bar r...@192.168.0.202:/tmp/
will copy the file  foo.bar to the freerunner into the /tmp directory.

i guess, most graphical file mangers will support the fish protocol, which  
enables you to treat the fr just like another storage device.
in the manager's (konqueror, dolphin) addressbar  type

fish://r...@192.168.0.202/tmp/

and you should see the contents of that folder.

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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-23 Thread arne anka
ifdown usb0
ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.202 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
route add -host 192.168.0.202 dev usb0

for ubuntu, prefix every line with sudo.

the wiki page lists _all_ of the above!

 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking

please a) read the wiki and b) post useful and complete error messages.
you never answered, what device was using 192.168.0.202 already nor gave  
really useful information so far!

for windows as ssh client you are probably best off with putty.

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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-23 Thread arne anka
 eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:14:2a:a9:4d:fb
   inet addr:192.168.0.200  Bcast:192.168.0.255

here's something wrong already.
a) eth0 should not have address 192.168.0.200 (for the purpose of easy  
access to the fr, that is) and
b) specifically not, when everything is disconnected


 usb0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr d2:d8:e1:48:cd:a2
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:39 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
   RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:5321 (5.1 KB)

 usb0:avahi Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr d2:d8:e1:48:cd:a2
   inet addr:169.254.9.209  Bcast:169.254.255.255   
 Mask:255.255.0.0
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1

eth0 retains the ip and usb0 does not get any.
in theory you need the two first commands i posted now (ifdown usb0 and  
ifconfig), in praxi it wouldn't help much since it most likely clashes  
with your existing network configuration.


 here im trying to add a new route : sudo route add-host 192.168.0.202 dev
 usb0

hardly probable to work -- usb0 has no ip. you did not do ipdown/ifconfig.

there are some serious issues with your network configuration (from the  
point of fr networking at least), which need to be solved first.
theoretically, you could circumvent them by using another mask and  
iptables and stuff.

what's for the moment is mots important, is to figure out why eth0 uses  
192.168.0.200 and why it does retain the ip even when disconnected (by  
which i mean cable being unplugged).
most lilkly avahi is guilty ...

please, check the necessary tools for the configured network properties  
(there should be some tools with graphic user interface available, if  
everything fails, post the content of /etc/network/interfaces) and figure  
out, what ip range your router uses.
furthermore, check if the software on your fr contains an text editor.


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Re: connection between Freerunner and openSUSE 11.2

2009-11-21 Thread arne anka
tbh, i never really was happy mit nm or any intelligent automatism  
trying to manage the connection to the fr.
nm usually is overcharged with the concept of _multiple_ network  
interfaces being up and connected at the sam time and produces spretty  
much a mess.

your best bet is to handle it by yourself, using /etc/network/interfaces  
(be aware, taht suse since its earliest times refuse to use sensible and  
widely used mechanisms, but forces you to use that horrible yast!)

my /etc/network/interfaces looks like below

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

allow-hotplug usb0
iface usb0 inet static
 address 192.168.0.200
 netmask 255.255.255.0
 network 192.168.0.0
 post-up iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s  
192.168.0.0/24
 post-up echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
 post-up iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT

## The primary network interface
## network-manager stupidly seems to use the last defined connection
allow-hotplug eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp

relevant is the usb0 stanza (i modified the udev rule to retain the device  
usb0, per default it should be ethX, probably eth1 on your box).

in theory, nm should ignore any device explicitely configured in the file  
above, but in praxi it usually fails, check
/etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf
for the entry

[ifupdown]
managed=false

to (hopefully) force nm to ignore those devices in /etc/network/interfaces.

this works on a debian/unstable.
if suse does not allow this kind of configuration (yast creates its own  
little world), try yast and configure there manually the necessary  
information.

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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-20 Thread arne anka
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:23:01 +0100, Iurii y...@reverseenterprises.com  
wrote:




 Davide wrote:

 On Friday 20 November 2009 10:34:25 Iurii wrote:

 Then:
 ssh 192.168.0.200
 ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.200 port 22: Connection refused

 You're trying to ssh your own machine.
 Default FR IP is 192.168.0.202



  opss you are right silly i am:)

 ssh r...@192.168.0.202
 ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.202 port 22: No route to host

 what does this mean ?

you still miss the route

route add -host 192.168.0.202 dev usb0

as per
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking

check the wiki page and adjust your setup accordingly.

 when i've tried to ping 192.168.0.202
 PING 192.168.0.202 (192.168.0.202) 56(84) bytes of data
 From 169.254.3.145 icpm_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable
 From 169.254.3.145 icpm_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable
 From 169.254.3.145 icpm_seq=4 Destination Host Unreachable
 etc



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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-20 Thread arne anka
well, let's start with the output of

netstat -rn

and then, check, if ssh is running at all on the freerunner -- i can't  
imagine the fr to be without a terminal emulator, even out of the box.
last, but not least, check your firewall etc.

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Re: need sugestions

2009-11-20 Thread arne anka
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt
 Iface
 192.168.0.202   0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 0  0
 usb0
 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0
 usb0


where does that come from?
_202_ has to be the freerunner -- ie no interface on your host and now  
other device in your network is allowed to have that ip.

if you already assigned some other device that ip, you will not be able to  
reach the fr.

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Re: problem with wakeup from sleep by the incoming call

2009-10-28 Thread arne anka
if your debian really is up to date, your frameworkd.conf isn't.
your description matches an issue i had with gsmwhatevermuxer instead of  
fso-abyss. it might as well be related to using the deprecated ousaged  
instead of the newer fso-usaged (both still the default afaik if not set  
otherwise in frameworkd.conf).

here's a frameworkd.conf known to work:

 http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/smartphones-userland/2009-October/002027.html

for the newer fso-usaged (needs libgee2, in repo after october 22nd) you  
need to change the fsousage.controller line accordingly:

 http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-fso-maint/2009-October/002128.html

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Re: MP3 'capable' [was: Meida player.]

2009-09-11 Thread arne anka
 an answer, so don't rely on anything you see here.

 From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP3#Licensing_and_patent_issues

well, wikipedia is neither a trustworthy source, particularly with such an  
issue.
the source refered to ([42]) does not cite any kind of reliable  
information, it only presumes: seems to be tolerated by the patent  
holders.
not being sued until now is now guarantee whatsoever it won't happen at  
all -- there have been several patent infringment law suits years and  
years after the alleged infringment started and the patent holder got  
whiff of it.


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Re: SHR headphones not detecting

2009-08-28 Thread arne anka
there are two possible explanations:
- you have to push in the headphone plug harder to actually connect --  
hearing only in one earphone usually is a sign for that
- you needt to plug in _after_ establishing the call. not sure, how a) shr  
handles that and b) if fso did fix it -- but with debian i frequently  
experienced that the state file was switched only after establishing a  
communication, ie when calling or accepting with the headphones already  
plugged in, the state would nevertheless siwtch to handset, i had to  
unplug and replug the headphones to make the state switch correctly.

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Re: Problems flashing Neo Freerunner

2009-08-12 Thread arne anka
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:09:25 +0200, Tim Sterk t...@tim-sterk.nl wrote:

 I've tried the image which is on the website:
 http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/calypso_moko_FW/moko11/flash-moko11_uSD-image.tar.gz

 I've put it on my MicroSD card using the following instructions found  
 on
 the openmoko site:
 sudo dd if=flash-moko11-2.image of=/dev/mmcblk0

 - did you try to download that archive again and compare the images?
 - after doing dd you should be able to simply mount the sd card, is that
 possible and can you browse the directories?
 - what kind of bootloader are you using (qi, u-boot, if uboot from nand  
 or
 nor?) and which version?
 - how exactly did you boot (which button pressed how and how long)?
 - can you boot from another sd card?

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 I've downloaded the image multiple times, every time results in the same
 error.

it wpould probably have been much easier, if you just had _compared_ the  
images, as i wrote above.

 I'm not able to mount the sd card, because mount asks me the filesystem
 type, which I don't know.

iirc the image consists of two partitions. so, check with fdisk and try  
again.


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Re: sd card?

2009-08-12 Thread arne anka
 r...@om-gta02 ~ $ fdisk /dev/mmcblk0

 Unable to open /dev/mmcblk0


 The same just hit me when I installed SHR-U on my sd card (8gb  
 kingston). It
 worked for a little while, and then I started getting I/O errors.

 Any hints on how to fix the partition table on the card, and what to do  
 to
 not let it happen again? Does it only happen when you boot from the card?

there's the well known clock boot param and the qi wiki page lists in its  
append-file example a slow sd card parameter.

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Re: Problems flashing Neo Freerunner

2009-08-11 Thread arne anka
 Thanks for your help,

any chance, you'd tell us, _what_ you do exactly?
 from your description it is rather hard to infer your steps.

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Re: Problems flashing Neo Freerunner

2009-08-11 Thread arne anka
 I've tried on different computersystems (all ubuntu 9.04).
 Tried using different MicroSD card.
 Tried different flash images and different distributions.

and i guess, you tried to tell us something?
what in exactly didn't you understand?

if you really want help, make it possible to help you by giving detailed  
information instead of general statements like those cited above.

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Re: Problems flashing Neo Freerunner

2009-08-11 Thread arne anka
 No flaming needed, this is the SUPPORT list.  You know, newbies welcome?

which means: newbie == unable to read?
if you call requesting _usefull_ information instead of it does not work  
flaming, so be it.

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Re: Problems flashing Neo Freerunner

2009-08-11 Thread arne anka
 I've tried the image which is on the website:
 http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/calypso_moko_FW/moko11/flash-moko11_uSD-image.tar.gz

 I've put it on my MicroSD card using the following instructions found on
 the openmoko site:
 sudo dd if=flash-moko11-2.image of=/dev/mmcblk0

- did you try to download that archive again and compare the images?
- after doing dd you should be able to simply mount the sd card, is that  
possible and can you browse the directories?
- what kind of bootloader are you using (qi, u-boot, if uboot from nand or  
nor?) and which version?
- how exactly did you boot (which button pressed how and how long)?
- can you boot from another sd card?

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Re: sd card?

2009-07-23 Thread arne anka
 I think it's the original bootloader.

my shot in the dark would be, you've been bitten by the old sd-clock bug  
(or whatever the official name is -- has been too long since).
afaik it has been fixed long ago, but who knows what may have triggered it  
again? wouldn't hurt, at least, to check.
search the archives (and the wiki i guess) for sd clock.
iirc doing

echo 1000  /sys/module/glamo_mci/parameters/sd_max_clk

should fix that -- if you can mount sd afterwards, that's it. there's a  
param to the same effect for u-boot.

if it is really the bootloader, the fr came with, upgrading would be a  
good idea anyway.

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Re: sd card?

2009-07-22 Thread arne anka
 I can't access my SD card.

kernel, distribution, bootloader, bootloader version?

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Re: Manually change settings.

2009-07-09 Thread arne anka
2009? isn't it fso based?
auto suspend should be triggered by a rule in
/etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml
i guess.
you would then need to disable that rule and either try

mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.oeventsd /org/freesmartphone/Events  
org.freesmartphone.Events.ReloadRules

or restart fso.
there's a method to remove a rule, but it requires the rule's name -- and  
there's apparently no method to list all rules and in rules.yaml there's  
no names.

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Re: Manually change settings.

2009-07-09 Thread arne anka
 Sorry, I should have mentioned that I have 2008.8.  But plan to
 install SHR soon.  I am having trouble connecting via ssh in Ubuntu
 9.04.  Not sure what the problems is.  Things worked flawlessly in
 Ubuntu 8.04.

you don't need ssh to install 2009. just get the image and flash.
i don't think, it is a good idea to invest much time and effort into 2008.

 I assume that editing rules.yaml is the same in 2008.8 as you descibed
 for 2009?

nope. 2008 has nothing to do with fso.
don't know, how 2008 does auto suspend, but maybe
 http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1928
helps?

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Re: Freerunner won't boot: dies in uboot

2009-06-30 Thread arne anka
 Okay, I don't have the wall charger

 What may work is this:

 - press and hold AUX

 - insert USB power (from a PC)

 - when the menu comes up, select Power off

 This should leave the PMU in charging mode.


hey! that's quite interesting. could someone put that into the wiki,  
probably on some kind of first aid page?

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Re: Freerunner won't boot: dies in uboot

2009-06-30 Thread arne anka
 off. I'm waiting on a new wall charger; if that doesn't work, I'll
 just get another battery.


simply usb is still sufficient, only it takes longer.
plug in, let it alone for the night and boot up next day.

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Re: Freerunner won't boot: dies in uboot

2009-06-29 Thread arne anka
i say, the battery is flat -- your symptoms perfectly match.
plug in the wallcharger, let it sit for a while (1h at least) and try  
again.

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Re: Problems to configure openmoko bridge with ubuntu

2009-06-19 Thread arne anka
 have you got wicd installed? it's a replacement for the endlessly
 sucky network-manager (or something like that). it's a drop-in, no
 need to change any config, but it makes things so much easier, and
 it's in the ubuntu repos. i'd recommend that, and then come back if
 things aren't fixed. even if it doesn't sort your problem, i'd suggest
 using it


my experience is: wicd sucks royally!
and recommending to change a most likely unrelated piece of software is  
probably not going to help much.

for the op:
what exactly did you do?

is the name server set correctly (check /etc/resolv.conf on the fr)?
does pinging an ip (not a name) work?

try
ping 193.99.144.80
that's the ip of heise.de, a german news portal.
if it works, name resolution is broken, copy yout host's /etc/resolv.conf  
to the fr.

for normal forwarding i got in my host's /etc/network/interfaces

auto usb0
iface usb0 inet static
 address 192.168.0.200
 netmask 255.255.255.0
 network 192.168.0.0
 post-up iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s  
192.168.0.0/24
 post-up echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
 post-up iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT

check the logs, if error messages are displayed or simply try

iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24
echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT

and see if messages are printed.

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Re: No space left on device

2009-06-09 Thread arne anka
 - to bood from the SD in QT, but it is failing also (trying to mount
 /var/something ) and stops

you could mount the sd card in your pc and modify the fstab of qt, to  
mount only from sd.
besides that, i would have expected it to mount /var ... to tmpfs, not  
nand (or any physical storage at all).

for a minimal system, using the sd card image created to flash the  
firmware could help -- i think, it starts sshd, too.
if you didn't flash the newer calypso firmware, it could be done now, and  
if you flashed already, it doesn't harm.
if you don't like it, you could remove the startup script from (probably)  
/et/init.d/ and boot from the sd card then.

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Re: [om2009-r4] Warren's Settings Worked for Me (was Re: Om2009 testing release 4)

2009-06-08 Thread arne anka
 I've still seen varying opinions on these mailing lists ranging from  
 'only
 5% of people need the buzz fix' to 'everyone with an A5 or A6 needs the  
 buzz
 fix'.

they're not really varying -- it's like learning to swim: if you are  
absolutely sure, you'll never get into deep water, there's no need to  
spend time learning how to swim.
but if you're unsure, you better do it.

it's the same with the buzz fix: if you don't experience it and if you are  
absolutely sure, the location and conditions your fr works under will  
never change, no need to fix.
technically, though, the buzz is there and you might experience it when  
you expect it the least.
so, if you got the opportunity to get the fix applied, use it -- better  
safe than sorry.


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Re: om2009 GPS

2009-05-30 Thread arne anka
 it seems that this path doesn't exist

 check that gps chip is online (echo 1 
 /sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron)

 the file neo1973-pm-gps.0 does not exist and cannot be created.

find /sys -name \*gps\*

 When I start tango gps it says gps not found.

 I wonder if this is because I installed gpsd.

fso-gpsd.
fso-gpsd exposes an gpsd compatible interface to legacy applications and  
handles both communication with fso and request of the gps resource.

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Re: Best graphics performance?

2009-05-28 Thread arne anka
 freerunner, they're not optimized at all. Period.

that's certainly true -- but if you write your app for a commonly used  
desktop pc it is rather a matter of effort/result relationship how much  
energy one spends on optimization.
the estimated improvements are probably not worth mentioning, so one  
rather goes for other tasks.

that's why i proposed to give away a freerunner, so the developer might  
actually see optimization make a difference, boosting his spirits ... ;-)

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Re: Best graphics performance?

2009-05-28 Thread arne anka
 Sure. I would only like to use it to track commitment. Because I don't
 want to buy the phone all by my self.


i don't know how cofundos works (needs some kind of registration probably,  
which i am averse to), so no way i would register commitment there.
but when the share falls below 100€ i am all yours.

maybe one of the buzz fixers, who got freerunners over are interested in  
selling an fr (kind of a two-birds-one-stone situation)?



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Re: Best graphics performance?

2009-05-27 Thread arne anka
 Hehe, do you want to imply that the FR will gain more horsepower over

not necessarily, it's an equation with two terms.
since the fr is not likely to change in that respect, navit in turn may --  
and to be honest, i certainly hope it will, so far it is unusable as  
navigation app on the fr and its only advance over tangogps is the use of  
a comparatively small binary map instead of a huge bunch of tiles.

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Re: Best graphics performance?

2009-05-27 Thread arne anka
 Don't ask me what to do, I'm not a computer scientist. But I'm sure it
 would be possible.


well, maybe we all should chip in and give the navit author a freerunner,  
to spur his motivation :-)


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Re: OpenMoko beginner

2009-05-18 Thread arne anka
 First of all, I didn't succeed to make Wifi to work.

wouldn't that mean, it _is_ invulnerable? *scnr*

ok, first of all, please prefix the subjects of your mails _always_ with  
the distribution concerned ([debian], [2008.x], [2009.x], ...).
secondly:
- what distribution are you using?
- what kernel?
- did you check the archives? there are several threads regarding wifi  
being broken, often with a distribution/kernel combination emerging, that  
seems to work
- you can access taht ap via other linux devices?


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Re: [debian] python broken; no input

2009-04-17 Thread arne anka
a lot of searching later ...

 a) python is mostly broken -- as far as i can see, every python apps
 missed modules and is unable to import them.
 seems i can work around that by setting
 PYTHONPATH=/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/:/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/gtk-2.0
 but i am not sure if i catch all cases with that -- and with the crucial
 role python plays on the fr, it is really a showstopper.

seems like debian bug #516463, at least it helped:

$ file /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/python-support.pth
/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/python-support.pth: broken symbolic link  
to `../../pymodules/python2.5/.path'

fixing that broken link seems to do the trick.

 b) still the frameworkd needs several seconds if not minutes to respond  
 to what request ever, which makes zhone time out several times

not sure, if related, but zhone was able again to connect, authenticate  
and do all things funny.

 c) i can't click buttons anymore. although the cursor moves with my  
 stylus and jumps to where i tap -- buttons, checkboxes ... do not  
 receive clicks
 and thus nothing is usable

related to evdev, it seems.
reenabling libgtkstylus and fixing an fdi file for the touchpad according  
to

 http://gentoo.mindzoo.de/index.cgi/wiki/X

made everything work again.

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[debian] python broken; no input

2009-04-15 Thread arne anka
hi,
yesterday i rebooted the fr again after several weeks and it immediately  
turned out to be the wrong thing.

system is an up-to-date debain/unstable, most notably
- python2.5 2.5.4-1
- fso-frameworkd 0.8.4.9-20090130-3

Package: xserver-xorg
Version: 1:7.4+1
--
Package: xserver-xorg-core
Version: 2:1.6.0-1
--
Package: xserver-xorg-input-evdev
Version: 1:2.2.1-1
--
Package: xserver-xorg-input-kbd
Version: 1:1.3.2-3
--
Package: xserver-xorg-input-mouse
Version: 1:1.4.0-2
--
Package: xserver-xorg-input-tslib
Version: 0.0.5-8
--
Package: xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
Version: 1:0.4.0-4


a) python is mostly broken -- as far as i can see, every python apps  
missed modules and is unable to import them.
seems i can work around that by setting  
PYTHONPATH=/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/:/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/gtk-2.0
but i am not sure if i catch all cases with that -- and with the crucial  
role python plays on the fr, it is really a showstopper.

i hope, with all these snake charmers out there someone will come up with  
a viable solution or some hints, how to solve that.

b) still the frameworkd needs several seconds if not minutes to respond to  
what request ever, which makes zhone time out several times

c) i can't click buttons anymore. although the cursor moves with my stylus  
and jumps to where i tap -- buttons, checkboxes ... do not receive clicks  
and thus nothing is usable

atm the fr is unusable and since it is my sole phone, it is a bit urgent  
;-) -- so, any help is highly appreciated!

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Re: Entering the PIN for a SIM card

2009-04-08 Thread arne anka
 Yes, and nothing happened.
 Then I tried to double-tap on the assembled digits, and that
 worked...

good lord, what usabilty genius created that?
to begin with, everybody aroudnyou can read your pin and then, you stay  
there and tap the screen in the faint hope it might work somehow?

and, just out of curiosity, what do you do when you need to correct a  
typo? the screenshot shows not delete or backspace or so.

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Re: Entering the PIN for a SIM card

2009-04-08 Thread arne anka
ah, i think i understand -- it's textfield for the pin and the standard  
(predictive) keyboard.

well, i don't thinkl that's a good team. passowrd and pin shoudl then have  
their own keyboards.

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Re: Bluetooth busted (Was: [HW] Ear phones with microphone, for hands-free calling?)

2009-03-31 Thread arne anka
 of the pool.  I put my phone (plus stand alone charger, gps antenna, 4G  
 card w/ reader  spare battery) up on Ebay shortly after my group  
 mailing a couple months ago.

so, what are you doing here anyway?

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Re: [HW] Ear phones with microphone, for hands-free calling?

2009-03-28 Thread arne anka
 external in-ear head set that also features a microphone be a good
 thing to have for this device.

afaik the package included a wired headset too.

 I mean, there is already a 2.5mm socket
 for an ear phone, but I know neither of such a head set (although there
 should be some in the market),

resellers of the fr do imo offer the matching headset.
for other see either the archives or the wiki. there have been lengthy  
discussions about working headsets and pinouts months ago and i think,  
someone has compiled that information into a wiki article.

 nor do I know whether the FR can
 distinguish whether it has only an ear phone or an ear phone with a
 microphone plugged in (and then use that for recording voice).

should depend on the pin.

 microphone, right? We have a hands-free-while-driving law in Germany,
 too...


sure, but i am not sure, if handsfree equals headset. at least headphones  
are forbidden (even for bicycles, but nobody cares).

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Re: [HW] Ear phones with microphone, for hands-free calling?

2009-03-28 Thread arne anka
 afaik the package included a wired headset too.

 mine didn't, and afaik, the offered headset does not include a
 microphone.

the included has, see below.

 resellers of the fr do imo offer the matching headset.

 ... w/o a microphone.

_with_ microphone, that's why it is called head_set_ not just headphone.
at least pulster offers it separately
 http://www.pulster.de/index.htm?openmoko.htm

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Re: [gentoo] zhone

2009-03-25 Thread arne anka
- configure zhone to write to a log file (see the first lines of  
/usr/bin/zhone or the archives)
- look at X.org.log
- look at ~/.xsession-errors

do you experience similar issues with other apps too?

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[debian] locale.gen fails

2009-03-22 Thread arne anka
just noticed that somehow my locales are gone.
when trying to recreate them, locale.gen ends up with
Generating locales (this might take a while)...
   en_DK.UTF-8...cannot map archive header: Invalid argument
  done
   en_US.UTF-8...cannot map archive header: Invalid argument
  done
Generation complete.

and no locales are available.
locale -a
as root

C
POSIX

as normal user

locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_COLLATE to default locale: No such file or directory
C
POSIX

any hints? i so far found only reports of this porblem but no answer at  
all.

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Re: FreeRunner crashes after 10 minutes using GPS

2009-03-12 Thread arne anka
Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio jldoming...@prodevelop.es wrote:

please! do _NOT_ crosspost!
keep your postings to _ONE_ list only!

and those who answer: please, have a look at the reply-addresses and  
remove unnecessary addresses.

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Re: SD Card read/write errors and NSOD

2009-03-09 Thread arne anka
any chance you keep that on the support list only?

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Re: Palm/PDA Content on FreeRunner

2009-03-04 Thread arne anka
ACCESS has published an emulator, running palmos apps.
one of the bigger companies licensed it and distribute it with their  
smartphones/tablets -- i am not sure, but it might be nokia and maemo.

anyway, i asked w long time ago if access is going to make that thing  
avalibale to other linux based smartphones too, but only got the ususal  
bla about watching the development.

ps:
yepp, nokia -- see
 http://www.intomobile.com/2007/11/13/access-releasing-palm-os-garnet-emulator-for-nokias-internet-tablets.html

but i never heard anything about how it went.

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Re: [debian/fso]: time stuck at suspend after resume

2009-03-03 Thread arne anka
  Does hwclock also show the correct date?

 hwclock otoh shows the correct
 time.


 Which kernel version are you
 running?

2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26

 At least the andy-tracking branch suffers from this bug:

i don't think it is the same bug.
i repeat again:

- hwclock always shows correct time
- date seems to stop counting when suspending and to start again on  
resume, thus, if suspended 2 hours, date is 2 hours behind hwclock

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[debian/fso]: time stuck at suspend after resume

2009-03-02 Thread arne anka
when i resume the fr, the time zhone shows (and the date command) is the  
one when the fr suspended (ie, suspending the fr at 16:43 and resuming at  
20:14, zhone and date bot show 16:43) -- hwclock otoh shows the correct  
time.

i experienced it sometimes before, but the last two days it happens on  
every suspend/resume cycle.
is it a known issue, easily fixed by a configuration correction or is it a  
bug to be reported -- in this case, to whom?

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Re: Help! GSM not working after updating to Moko10

2009-02-27 Thread arne anka
 Something along these lines should work:

 - boot into NOR
 - connect to the u-boot console on ttyACM*
 - dynpart
 - dynenv set u-boot_env
 - saveenv
 - try to boot from NAND. If this doesn't work, boot again from NOR
   and DFU a new u-boot, then boot from NAND again
 - DFU kernel and rootfs

 You can also do the devirgination procedure with the debug board,
 but the NOR approach is less painful.


somebody please put that into the wiki, next to the devirginator stuff?

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Re: [debian/fso] 2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26 weird jiffs2 messages in dmesg

2009-02-21 Thread arne anka
 It seems that it takes a long long while to mount the jffs2 partition
 you have.  The first thing CPU 0 stall is just a comment that you seem
 to be stuck for two minutes, then the second thing is a diagnostic
 talking about what you are stuck on.  It seems you are stuck on mounting
 the jffs2 partition.

 Lastly the jffs2 warning about summaries... IIRC this is to do with how
 the jffs2 filesystem image was composed when it was built there was
 something about slow mount and broken summaries when the jffs2 image was
 created with wrong block size as I recall.

ok ...
so, what to do about it?

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Re: [debian/fso] 2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26 weird jiffs2 messages in dmesg

2009-02-21 Thread arne anka
 Dunno what you can do about it, but the guy who owns the process for
 generating the jffs2 image for Debian may get a hint from this to change
 how he generates it.  jffs2 mount should be a few seconds not 120.

oh, that's no flashed image or so.
it is the jiffs the fr came with. months ago i deleted everything and  
copied my files over (the most crucial parts of debian: /sbin/ /lib/ ...)  
 from teh sd install.
with 2.6.24 i have never seen those errors. wouldn't that rather be some  
kernel (2.6.28) related problem?

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Re: [debian/fso] 2.6.28-20090105.git69b2aa26 weird jiffs2 messages in dmesg

2009-02-21 Thread arne anka
 Maybe, but the actual error here is to do with the format of the jffs2
 partition.  It can be broken in kernel but I think we would have heard
 about it before, 2.6.28 is old now in kernel terms.

well, so the best i can do is backup my data and recreate/reformat the  
jiffs2 fs in flash -- with which parameters exactly?

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Re: Problem in Compiling Kernel Module for Openmoko

2009-02-20 Thread arne anka
   CHK include/linux/version.h
 /bin/sh: -c: line 0: syntax error near unexpected token `('
 /bin/sh: -c: line 0: `echo 2.6.29-GTA02_(no-mokodev 

at a first glance. i'd say, the ( in the echo has to be escaped:

`echo 2.6.29-GTA02_\(no-mokodev 

but i don't know how the line continues ...

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[debian] openmoko-panle-plugin does not store settings correctly

2009-02-15 Thread arne anka
since opp 0.9-1 of debian does not work correctly with the current  
available framework i downloaded panel-plugin-20090212_src.tar.bz2 and  
built my own deb.

opp works again well so far, but i notice that at least the settings for  
vibration at activation are ignored.
i just unchecked every box related to notifications and vibrations, but  
the ~/.panel-pluginrc nevertheless shows True at all entries (although  
having the timestamp Feb 15 21:55, ie something changed).

btw: wouldn't the .panel-pluginrc be better placed in ~/.config? instead  
of ~/?

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Re: [OM2008.12] How to fix Echo problem?

2009-02-10 Thread arne anka
 I'm using the FSO distro.
 Unfortunately the file unsolicited.py (which the link suggests to be
 edited) does not exist on my OM.
 In the tree
 /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/unsolicited.py
 I get as far as /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages but then the framework
 folder does not exist.

at my debian/fso it is at
/usr/share/python-support/fso-frameworkd/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/unsolicited.py

 And using: find / -name *modem*
 Gives me this:
 /opt/Qtopia/lib/libqtopiaphonemodem.so.4.3.2
 /opt/Qtopia/lib/libqtopiaphonemodem.so.4
 /opt/Qtopia/lib/libqtopiaphonemodem.so.4.3

that does not look like fso.

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Re: [QT] Alsa states..

2009-02-06 Thread arne anka
the state files should be identical for all distributions -- fetch either  
an opkg or a deb and extract them.

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Re: [FSO] Wifi in M5 no longer functioning

2009-02-05 Thread arne anka
 eth0:avah Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:12:CF:8F:33:91
   inet addr:169.254.6.255  Bcast:169.254.255.255

 It seems to look like it's connected

nope. it's not.
the ip address shown is a generic one, assigned by avahi in absence of a  
real one.

i don't know, what you did to obtain an association with tha ap and an ip  
subsequnetly, but iwlist scan is not giong to o that.


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Re: [FSO] Wifi in M5 no longer functioning

2009-02-05 Thread arne anka
 What about eth0?
 inet6 addr: fe80::212:cfff:fe8f:3391/64

same thing basically, though probably not assigned by avahi but something  
random (do you use ipv6 at home? does the fr kernel support ipv6 at all?)


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Re: [debian] navit

2009-02-02 Thread arne anka
 I couldn't find any either so I built my own with

 http://iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/navit.txt

well, at least the conversion to debian structure is an unnecessary step  
-- the navit page links to two repos holding navit (for x86, though) with  
diff/dsc/orig.tar.gz.
you need to modify the configure call in debian/rules to disable all taht  
unneeded stuff (wince, floating points), but after that it's pretty  
straight forward.

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Re: Took my FR apart and there is a bit left over after putting it back together ...

2009-01-25 Thread arne anka
you're a better man, than i am, gunga din!

i'd say it fits he aux button contact.

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Re: [debian/fso] pyphonelog crashes on start, org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied

2009-01-19 Thread arne anka
i inserted

allow send_requested_reply=true send_type=method_call/

into /etc/dbus-1/system.conf as proposed in the zhone/gsm/dbus thread and  
now it works again. any hints what exactly is happening?
this dbus rights management is far to complex for me ...

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Re: [debian/fso] pyphonelog crashes on start, org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied

2009-01-19 Thread arne anka
 I suggest you (and everyone not using root)
 * copy (not move)
   /etc/dbus-1/system.d/frameworkd.conf
   to
   /etc/dbus-1/system.d/my-frameworkd.conf
 * remove every line that talks about allow own...
 * change user=root to your user in every case.

forgot to mention, i did that already but independently and before seeing  
this problem.

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Re: Experiences with GTA02 and OM2008.12 (was part of the Brick thread)

2009-01-18 Thread arne anka
wolfgang,
could you put that in the wiki, together with the statements regarding the  
buzz fix, for further reference? (Allegations, Accusations and Rumors or  
so)
it would help a lot to stop needless complaints jamming the lists ...


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Re: OpenMoko + Exchange

2009-01-15 Thread arne anka
two things:
- what about those maemo guys? don't they create something like that  
already? besides the gui the relevant parts should be in some kind of  
library which should ne portable, shouldn't it?
- re evolution: the same thing applies. shouldn't be the relevant parts in  
a library and thus only a new gui be necessary?

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Re: battery on Qtopia 4.4.2

2009-01-15 Thread arne anka
 About QT Extended.  Anyone experiencing the Echo Bug?

 Is there a resolution to it without turning down the volume?

well, it's not a battery related question anymore ...
anyway. there have been postings over time  and one just recently, taht  
several people incorporated the nedded at commands in the code and  
re-built the library, incl a link where to download.
searching for
qtopia|qtextended+echo
in the mails of the last three or four weeks should turn up the most  
recent posting.

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Re: battery on Qtopia 4.4.2

2009-01-14 Thread arne anka
with debian/fso when using suspend i get usually 48 to 72 hours standby  
time (but i very seldom make or receive calls).
anyway, even qtopia should have suspend, or am i wrong here?

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Re: [Om2008.12] No sound on phonecalls

2009-01-11 Thread arne anka
 Any progress/information on this? It's still an issue here...

did you check the state file currently used when this occurs?
i would imagine that simply the state change mechanism failed -- but also  
it could be that sound itself broke down ...

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Re: X-font

2009-01-11 Thread arne anka
 Does someone know of any large X-font, large enough to be readable on
 the neo 300 dpi screen?

???
nowadays fonts are ususally scalable.

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[FSO]: zhone patch for reading vcf instead of sim. was: Re: Once a whiner

2009-01-10 Thread arne anka
here it is.
the code looks for addressbook.vcf in the user's $HOME and reads it in.  
multiple numbers per contact are supported.

in /usr/bin/zhone search for
class pyphone_contacts(edje_group):
and find some lines below

def prepare( self ):

and modify like below (be aware of unintentional linebreaks!)

def prepare( self ):
 if not self.ready and not self.busy:
 file = open(os.environ.get('HOME')+/addressbook.vcf, r)
 entries = []
 entry_nr = 1
 name = None
 number = None
 for line in file:
 #if line.startswith(END:VCARD):
 if line.startswith(TEL;):
 number = unicode(line.partition(:)[2].strip())
 if name and number:
 entry = entry_nr, name, number
 entries.append(entry)
 entry_nr = entry_nr + 1
 if line.startswith(END:VCARD):
 name = None
 number = None
 if line.startswith(N:):
 name = unicode(line.partition(:)[2].replace(';','  
').strip(), utf8, utf8)
 #if line.startswith(TEL;):
 #number = unicode(line.partition(:)[2].strip())
 file.close()
 self.cbPhonebookReply(entries)

 
 if dbus_object.gsm_device_obj:
 logger.info( retrieving phonebook... )
 dbus_object.gsm_sim_iface.RetrievePhonebook(
 contacts,
 reply_handler=self.cbPhonebookReply,
 error_handler=self.cbPhonebookError
 )
 self.busy = True
 else:
 # Fake phonebook...
 self.cbPhonebookReply( [
 (1, u'Kirk', '+023224433'),
 (2, u'Spock', '+034433463'),
 (3, u'McCoy', '+013244344'),
 (4, u'Scott', '+013244344'),
 (5, u'Uhura', '+013244344'),
 (6, u'Sulu', '+013244344'),
 (7, u'Chekov', '+456663443'),
 ] )
 

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Re: [all distros] auto-login to hot spots that use web-based login

2009-01-10 Thread arne anka
 can anyone explain if there is a way to connect to a wifi point that
 uses a web-based username and password, without using my browser?

wget?

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Re: Dictonary Software

2009-01-09 Thread arne anka
look for ding.
it's the same database as
http://dict.tu-chemnitz.de/
and works either as cli program or with a simple x interface, i wouldn't  
be surprised if it is in ångström already.
if not, it is available in debian.

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Re: Once a whiner

2009-01-09 Thread arne anka
 The only thing that prevents me of using FSO is the import of phone  
 numbers. I
 couldn't found a hint on how to import a vcf file.

so far there's no pim implemented -- zhone only reads from sim.
but it is really simple to patch zhone accordingly.
search the archives, i think i posted a patch a while ago and certainly  
someone else did in september or so.

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Re: [2008.12] ssh instability

2009-01-08 Thread arne anka
i too have stability issues with the ssh connection.
i had them with dropbear (2007.2 and debian) really bad, and still have  
them with standard sshd on the fr, though far less frequent.
mostly i experience it when doing apt-operations which take a bit longer,  
so i somehow suspect a timeout issue.

 when i was using it last night, nothing would resurrect the connection
 until i re-booted the laptop, then it worked fine again. for a short
 time

 i'm wondering if the problem is not with the phone, but networking on my  
 laptop

i've seem the total disappearance of usb0 only once -- and then the usbnet  
module was gone.
unplugging/replugging the fr caused reload of the module and everything  
was fine again.

maybe you should try to manually load
usbnet
cdc_ether
?

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Re: GTA01 bricked - WANTED Debug Board in Germany

2009-01-08 Thread arne anka
 Here is the story. (Not to repeat!)

well, to rub salt in it ...
are you sure, mtd0 was the right device file to write to?
the kernel-ipk has a postinst script, that before flashing the new kernel  
checks for the right device -- the same way allows for seeing what the  
other devices are for (i do not have it avaliable atm, but once you got  
your neo up and running again, you should look for it.)

next thing is, that it might be helping if you could narrow down your  
position somehow, i assume it is somewhere in the black forrest area,  
right?
maybe there are owners of a debug board near you who hesitate to do the  
postal thing, but would happily help, if you're in the neighbourhood.

 So i just tried it:
 nandwrite /dev/mtd0 gta01bv4-u-boot.bin
 Input file is not page aligned
 Data was only partially written due to error
 : Success
 Success? Error?

good lord! with a message like that i would never have shutdown the thing!

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Re: GTA02 is now an expensive brick

2009-01-08 Thread arne anka
 not in there by default. As it's fundamental to a working phone it should
 be. And from the threads I;ve found it doesn't actually help everyone.

because the echo has many sources, the hw is only one -- the other is your  
location. even with my old phone i had echos sometimes which had to be  
attributed to the spot i were in.

for the rest of your posting: could you please stop right now?
the constant whining is jamming my inbox and nothing of what you (or  
others) were grumbling about is exactly new. in fact, the sdame stuff  
keeps to come up again and again and again.
we all know what shortcomings the fr has, what could have been done better  
in the past and what should be done in the future -- there is absolutely  
NO NEED to repüeat that over and over again, just because there a few days  
nobody said that!

i am sick and tired of people thinking thy have to take their personal  
disappointments to market every day, if you need to get rid of your  
disappointments join a fitness club, go in the woods and yell at squirrels  
or chop wood, but stop that constant annoying whining on this list  
(especially since it is a _support_ list, and that does not mean mental  
support).

i bought the fr in june and i knew, it would be not totally ready for  
daily use, and yes, i was disappointed, that it did not even meet my low  
expectations -- but likewise i realized that it does not help anybody if i  
vented those feelings on the list.

if you are not able to use the fr as intended, please sell it on ebay. but  
stop to fill up my (and others) inboxes with pointless and sickening  
complaints -- we heard them already and know every single one by heart and  
we are sure it will not help solve anything if you go on and on and on.

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Re: no sound during a call

2009-01-05 Thread arne anka
 anything but person who calls me hear everything. What is strange: after
 dialing a number I can hear dialing tone - but when the call is answered  
 the sound disappears.

the moment the call is answered the alsa state file changes, so you most  
likely corrupted the gsmhandset.state file somehow.

 I use Om2008.12. The problem appeared when I played with
 alsamixer (yesterday). So at first I tried change alsamixer configuration
 files (.state) files, next I re-flashed FR by Om2008.12, next I tried SHR
 and back to Om2008.12. Nothing was successful. Has somebody idea where is
 the problem?

why these steps did not solve the issue i don't know -- but maybe it is a  
bug in 2008.12 generally and you triggered it somehow?


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Re: pointless ranting was: Re: Sad Story

2008-12-15 Thread arne anka
 if you refuse to check archives and to read mails and instead insist on
 perpetuating your misstatement, nobody can help you!

 Then this link be updated. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA03


i give up.
you are deliberatly confusing things just to prove your point, imo.

eot for me.

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Re: Sad Story

2008-12-15 Thread arne anka
 Karthik:

 I think I probably speak for a reasonable portion of the community when
 I say this:

 Go buy an iphone. Put your FreeRunner on ebay. You'll like the iphone -

+1

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Re: Sad Story

2008-12-14 Thread arne anka
  1. Recamping issue - http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1024.
 
 does the relased firmware not apply?
 openmoko10 (or whatever that firmware was called) hasn't fixed the issue  
 for me.

seems, i confused the issues the fw should fix, not #1024 but #666.

 And no, a software workaround which still drains the battery in less  
 than a day IMO is not enough.

can't confirm that. the battery lasts as long as before -- about 48h,  
maybe more (i never let it run down more than about 35% which is reached  
after almost two days).

  3. A stable, FSO-based distribution
 ...
 there was just recently a mail from om lining out the development in  
 this
 respect.
 I must have missed it. To find it, what should I be googling for ?


well, mails wolfgang spraul of the last week, i think. should be in the  
thread about the disbanded optimization team.

 On a related note, the latest FSO in debian (apt-get update; apt-get  
 upgrade
 about an hour ago) never asks me for a PIN. Who should I report this to,
 which logs should I attach?

seems to be an issue for the smartphone lists, rather.

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Re: ssh dying constantly

2008-12-14 Thread arne anka
 Try netstat -tp (on the host computer) to find the right PID to kill.

i have several ssh connections to the fr open -- just because they so  
prone to freeze.
netstat does not give more information than ps. it's near to impossible to  
determine which of the two, three, ... ssh connections to the fr just  
froze.



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Re: Sad Story

2008-12-13 Thread arne anka
 1. Recamping issue - http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1024.
 I know it's hard and I presume people from TI aren't being helpful since
 solving this issue isn't going to be very profitable for them. Still,  
 please,
 someone solve this!

does the relased firmware not apply?

 3. A stable, FSO-based distribution (which can be built using the
 aforementioned stable buildsystem). Someone (from Openmoko) should come  
 up
 with a stable FSO snapshot and additional apps which would allow a user  
 to
 call people, manage contacts (at least on the SIM) and  
 send/receive/delete
 SMS. This distribution could then be used as a base for further  
 development.


there was just recently a mail from om lining out the development in this  
respect.

 P.S. I'm surprised Nokia hasn't released any competition to Openmoko.  
 Yet.

they most likely won't -- nokia is afraid of free and open.

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Re: Sad Story

2008-12-12 Thread arne anka
 A quick thought...if Openmoko feels the hardware of GTA02 is inadequate  
 to
 even bother making it a stable phone, should there not be some sort of


what is so hard in actually reading answers instead of repeating the same  
wrong statement over an dover?
it has been stated several times already that the gta03 you constantly  
keep refering to, does _NOT_ mean the actual gta03 _HARDWARE_?
please, do us all a favour and  check the answers in this thread and the  
mail of john's before beating that death horse again ...

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Re: Still can't register GSM

2008-12-12 Thread arne anka
 I don't think a user can flash GSM firmware, only OM, due to NDA on the
 Calypso.

yes, you can.
om perepared an image you put on sd and boot from, then the firmware will  
be upgraded.
search the archives and the wiki for links and howto.

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Re: Still can't register GSM

2008-12-12 Thread arne anka
 did you check if all contacts of the sim are connected? (yes, it used to
 work before, i know)

 I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. Connected to what?

to the contacts of the fr sim slot.
if i remember right, the fr's contacts are just some kind of springs which  
might very well loose suspension somehow.
additionally the sim itself is some kind of plastic which might deform.
while each might be completely inside the tolerance, together it might  
lead to some pads of the sim not being connected with the according pin.
putting some paper betwen the slider and the sim or pressing the sim down  
with a finger might help.

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Re: Using AGPS - the GPS device suddenly seems to have got nuked!

2008-12-10 Thread arne anka
what distribution?
please prefix the subject accordingly!

 2008.12.10 08:11:10 ogpsdDEBUGDiscarded data not UBX

indicates that it uses fso -- and your bug is
http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/265

for me, it helped to purge every fso-package (save modified configs like  
frameworkd.conf) and re-install.
i didn't see any differences in the config files afterwards but i rather  
think, the issue may be caused by some stale pyc-files ...

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Re: cu: Permission denied

2008-12-09 Thread arne anka
 cu: creat (/var/lock/TMP000e75): Permission denied

have a look at /var/lock/ -- anything unusual?


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Re: jffs2 crc errors

2008-12-05 Thread arne anka
 What is this still a 2.6.24 based kernel?

debian-gta02 2.6.24-20081103.git7172ec57

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Re: jffs2 crc errors

2008-12-05 Thread arne anka
 This is interrupted erase or flash action caused by the reset I think...
 normally JFFS2 seems to either recover them itself or there is minimal
 corruption of filesystem.

 The freeze can be to do with garbage collection for jffs2 but could be
 unrelated altogether.

anything i can do about it?

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Re: jffs2 crc errors

2008-12-05 Thread arne anka
   tar cf - --one-file-system / | cat /dev/null

did at least not fail :-)

tar -cPf /dev/null --one-file-system /

took slightly longer (giving the impression that actually something  
happened ;-)
didn't see the message again so far ...

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Re: what software can be used to send AGPS data to /dev/ttySAC1?

2008-12-02 Thread arne anka
 I would like to get GPS fix faster with debian on freerunner. From
 files fetched by mokomakefile I found two things that mention agps:

i may be wrong -- but isn't agps done in frameworkd already? at least i  
got the impression by browsing the logs due to the recent gps issue ...

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Re: Turning FR on after suspention

2008-11-25 Thread arne anka
please prefix any posting with the appropriate distribution (ie 2007.2,  
2008.9, FDOM, Debian, FSo)!

 To turn on FR after it gets suspended I just need to press the Power
 button on the right side of the phone.
 Am I right?

depends on the distribution used.

 Cause sometimes it just stays suspended (screen doesn't turn on). Then I
 usually hold the Power button for some time and FR shuts down. Then I
 can turn it on.

touch the screen.
with fso ms4 i experience that, after hitting pwr, the screen lights up  
very shortly but gets blank again -- probably the idle dim kicks in,  
tapping the screen turns the light back on.
with 2007.2 (the distribution the fr comes with) this is a bug, which will  
not be fixed, since 2007.2 is dead -- upgrade to another distribution.

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Re: [2008.9] Turning FR on after suspention

2008-11-25 Thread arne anka
 I'm using om2008.9.
 But I've left the bootloader as it was from the very begining.
 Don't think it can affect anything though.


oh, it pretty well can. in fact, it's one of the most important things  
with suspend/resume.
there was a lot of changes to u-boot, not at least in respect to issues  
with s/r -- you should definitely update.

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Re: [2008.9] Turning FR on after suspention

2008-11-25 Thread arne anka
 Maybe it will fix all my GPS and WiFi troubles. =)

warning: it will not help with trouble with your  
boss/wife/husband/girlfriend/boyfriend!

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debian? fast discharging due to wallcharger?

2008-11-18 Thread arne anka
i noticed the issue occasionally, but never that extreme:
sunday night (at about midnight) the battery was at about 53%, thus i  
plugged in the wallcharger.
at about 8:30 the led was blue and the battery at about 83%, re-plugged  
the charger. when i left home it was at 99%, discharging. i disconnected  
and  supended and did not touch it until 24h later -- and the battery was  
flat!

so. my impression is: charging with the wallcharger may charge faster, but  
discharges very fast, too!

does someone else experience this?

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Re: Cannot power on my neo freerunner anymore

2008-11-14 Thread arne anka
 It wasn't the first time I had this issue, so I just took out the battery
 and put it back in it's place.

leave the phone w/o battery for a while. i think, i recall something about  
taking time to fully empty (and thus reset) internal parts.

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