Re: OpenMoko beginner
Ovidiu Gavril wrote:
Hi,
I have to make my project diploma on an OpenMoko phone. This is a
part of a bigger project regarding OpenMoko security, and my task is to
try to make some attacks on the phone and to test its vulnerabilities.
First of all, I didn't succeed to make Wifi to work. I've followed
the instructions from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wifi. My
wpa_supplicant.conf file looks like this:
ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
ctrl_interface_group=0
eapol_version=1
ap_scan=1
fast_reauth=1
# Open:
network={
ssid=Ovidiu
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
psk=my_password
priority=95
}
This is what I get with iwlist eth0 scan:
Cell 02 - Address: 00:14:D1:11:9A:D2
ESSID:Ovidiu
Mode:Master
Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
Quality=35/94 Signal level=-60 dBm Noise level=-95
dBm
Encryption key:on
Extra:bcn_int=100
Extra:wpa_ie=dd160050f2010150f2020150f2020150f202
But, when I make ifdown eth0 ifup eth0, it says:
Sending discover...
Sending discover...
Sending discover...
No lease, failing
I'm a beginner in this filed and any help is very welcomed (regarding
Wifi or other advices about how to start my work).
Thank you in advance.
Best regards,
Ovidiu
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Alternatively to configuring the wpa_supplicant file manually, u may install
the WPA GUI mofi (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Mofi). It generates a
wpa-supplicant file under your home directory (.mofi_wpa_supplicant.conf).
It works at least under OM2008.9.
Cheers,
MicVM
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Re: OpenMoko beginner
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/5/18 Tilman Baumann til...@baumann.name: But do whatever you want to do. I don't have to take you seriously. if you want to discourage people from taking part in the community, your approach is *exactly* the way to go. or, maybe it's more useful to foster people joining in; i thought that was what open-source was all about? http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2009/01/building-community-around-your-foss.html Sorry, I'm sometimes a pessimistic sarcastic asshole. And I like that role. I have seen so much hot air in the beginning of the OM project. Do you remember all the dicks who thought they could do all sorts of crazy stuff completely disregarding the actual state of the project. This has hurt the project a lot too in my view. We have some fundamental issues at the moment. And security is probably not one of them. Our enthusiastic newcomer 'I have to ... for a university project' is always welcome. I just hate security people and I hate it when people try to contribute to a project just because it is popular and cool. Maybe he has fun and all. Then by all means, have it. But to me it sounded more like involuntary work. I think he should rather ask his mentors to give him a useful job. (Hey Ovidiu don't listen to me, do what you want! Really, this the only right thing you can do. Doing what _you_ think is right for you. Then some dick like me will not stop you) If he would have said he likes to _implement_ a security structure like integrating SMACK or something like at and of course move the userland away from root. I would have thrown myself in the sand before him and hailed him as my new hero. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support -- MFG Tilman Baumann ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
OpenMoko beginner
Hi,
I have to make my project diploma on an OpenMoko phone. This is a part of
a bigger project regarding OpenMoko security, and my task is to try to make
some attacks on the phone and to test its vulnerabilities.
First of all, I didn't succeed to make Wifi to work. I've followed the
instructions from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wifi. My wpa_supplicant.conf
file looks like this:
ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
ctrl_interface_group=0
eapol_version=1
ap_scan=1
fast_reauth=1
# Open:
network={
ssid=Ovidiu
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
psk=my_password
priority=95
}
This is what I get with iwlist eth0 scan:
Cell 02 - Address: 00:14:D1:11:9A:D2
ESSID:Ovidiu
Mode:Master
Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
Quality=35/94 Signal level=-60 dBm Noise level=-95 dBm
Encryption key:on
Extra:bcn_int=100
Extra:wpa_ie=dd160050f2010150f2020150f2020150f202
But, when I make ifdown eth0 ifup eth0, it says:
Sending discover...
Sending discover...
Sending discover...
No lease, failing
I'm a beginner in this filed and any help is very welcomed (regarding Wifi
or other advices about how to start my work).
Thank you in advance.
Best regards,
Ovidiu
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Re: OpenMoko beginner
First of all, I didn't succeed to make Wifi to work. wouldn't that mean, it _is_ invulnerable? *scnr* ok, first of all, please prefix the subjects of your mails _always_ with the distribution concerned ([debian], [2008.x], [2009.x], ...). secondly: - what distribution are you using? - what kernel? - did you check the archives? there are several threads regarding wifi being broken, often with a distribution/kernel combination emerging, that seems to work - you can access taht ap via other linux devices? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: OpenMoko beginner
I hope you plan to fix security issues.
There is nothing more useless than security people investing energy in
finding problems in opensource an then expecting other people to fix these
bugs. Just because they are security bugs.
They are bugs, and the only reasonable thing to do with bugs is to fix
them if you see them.
And just in my humble opinion, openmoko has bigger issues than security.
I mean, we run everything as root just because nobody has time to fix it.
That probably tells you everything you need.
I would not mind if someone fixes openmoko from a security perspective.
But there are certainly other issues that need attention too.
But do whatever you want to do. I don't have to take you seriously.
Ovidiu Gavril wrote:
Hi,
I have to make my project diploma on an OpenMoko phone. This is a
part of a bigger project regarding OpenMoko security, and my task is to
try to make some attacks on the phone and to test its vulnerabilities.
First of all, I didn't succeed to make Wifi to work. I've followed
the instructions from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wifi. My
wpa_supplicant.conf file looks like this:
ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
ctrl_interface_group=0
eapol_version=1
ap_scan=1
fast_reauth=1
# Open:
network={
ssid=Ovidiu
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
psk=my_password
priority=95
}
This is what I get with iwlist eth0 scan:
Cell 02 - Address: 00:14:D1:11:9A:D2
ESSID:Ovidiu
Mode:Master
Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6)
Quality=35/94 Signal level=-60 dBm Noise level=-95
dBm
Encryption key:on
Extra:bcn_int=100
Extra:wpa_ie=dd160050f2010150f2020150f2020150f202
But, when I make ifdown eth0 ifup eth0, it says:
Sending discover...
Sending discover...
Sending discover...
No lease, failing
I'm a beginner in this filed and any help is very welcomed (regarding
Wifi or other advices about how to start my work).
Thank you in advance.
Best regards,
Ovidiu
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Re: OpenMoko beginner
2009/5/18 Tilman Baumann til...@baumann.name: But do whatever you want to do. I don't have to take you seriously. hey, easy man. you're right, people can do what they want - no need to talk down to anyone if you want to discourage people from taking part in the community, your approach is *exactly* the way to go. or, maybe it's more useful to foster people joining in; i thought that was what open-source was all about? ___ support mailing list support@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/support
Re: OpenMoko beginner
I have this in /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf:
ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant
ap_scan=1
network={
ssid=Penguin in Bondage
psk=2b86c9451800da3b6c003fc4aa23f89ec8ad0ca822334088093443384944572a
proto=WPA RSN
key_mgmt=WPA-PSK
auth_alg=OPEN
pairwise=CCMP TKIP
group=CCMP TKIP
priority=60
}
Use wpa_passphrase to generate the PSK, don't put cleartext passwords
into that file.
And in /etc/network/interfaces, make it look like this:
iface eth0 inet dhcp
wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
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